Posts by crimsonjackal8

blueranger13 said:The last time I hit an arena for a show was seeing Nirvana / Melvins in Austin.
Just constant shuffling—two steps left, two steps back, twenty feet right, twenty feet forward... just doing that dance for three hours straight.

I get why the kids want to be in the middle of the mosh pit... but there are older guys out there who actually paid good money just to get crushed in that crowd.
What's the point?

Finally, someone who gets it...

Since this thread has finally crawled back to life, I’ve got some homework for you all. Take a look at what David Brin has to say regarding the whole Star Wars vs Star Trek debate. Then, give me your thoughts...

Brin: Star Wars vs Star Trek

I’m not exactly up to speed on the current punk, hardcore, or metal scene in Cleveland—maybe it’s because some of those musicians are old enough to be my dad—but I’ve heard nothing but great things about Pasim. I've also heard there's some solid metal floating around. And the Shells are 🙏 🙏 🙏

That said, Cleveland is definitely not a rock town. Where are the dedicated clubs, the dive bars, the fanzines, or the radio stations? Where can kids just put on shows week in and week out instead of waiting for some big annual festival? When was the last time an international band played here, outside of the open fest? And what’s the deal with the local DJs?
All these years, I’ve been wondering why things are so stagnant, and honestly, I don't have an answer—especially since I know a ton of people who absolutely shred 😕

So, what do the locals think of this little provocation???

Here’s a little more. Every man eventually hits that wall of Freudian disappointment 😁 In moments like those, how you carry yourself really matters. Since I woke up in a bit of a rock-and-roll mood this morning, here’s some low-brow poetry for the road.

...

On my way down she betrayed me
Now my vision is no longer hazy
See I’m very lucky to have my crew
They stood by me when she's through
I’ve been knocked out, beat down, black and blue
She’s not the one coming back for you
She’s not the one coming back for you

If I fall back down
You’re gonna help me back up again
If I fall back down
You’re gonna be my friend

🙏

There was this little poem once:

Girls want to be in the know
Girls want to be in the know
Why they expect so much from life
While their dreams so rarely come true
Why they’re always dreaming of the wealthy guys
Yet still believe in honest love...

That's enough to get things started. 🙄

Frank Howard79 said:So, who exactly do you think actually deserves a spot in the top 100?

Maybe Dire Straits🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Alex Martinez4 said:Nah, I think the songs have just become incredibly boring—to God, the devil, and every other imaginary entity out there. They’re good songs, sure. But they've been chewed over so many times that you eventually just lose interest. Honestly, whenever I hear Smoke on the Water on the radio or somewhere else, I immediately shut it off or change the station. I just can't do it anymore.

Yeah. For some reason, those tracks remind me of those terrible dive bars—the kind where there's a chronic shortage of women and an overabundance of cheap bourbon—where some untalented guy grabs a guitar and starts cranking out the classics: North American, Three-legged stool, Vaso ladački, Vish You Were Here, then back to North American again. 😵

Easy there, Jedi. Take a breath before you let the anger pull you toward the dark side 😈 😛 😛

np Violent Femmes - Prove my love

Crippled said:Well, that’s really a matter of taste, though I’m mostly talking about quality here.
Music basically breaks down into three categories: the serious stuff, rock (not metal or punk—just pure, old-school rock), and garbage.

Just stating facts.

And here I was thinking it was split into true black 🙂 metal and garbage 🤔

The funny thing is, in both those groups, I actually prefer the garbage way more. 🙂

like Nika Špiljak - The good son

N/A said:I'll start with just two classics: Stairway to Heaven, Hotel California

Has anything actually hit us harder than that? What’s your take?

Sure, there's also Smoke on the Water and Wish You Were Here 🙄 🙂 🙂

Metal and folk music... they actually feel pretty similar to me—it’s all about that technical, lightning-fast fingerwork on the keys or strings 😵 😛 😛 😛

Even the vocals have that same vibe...

crimsonjackal8 said:Scientists frequently forget that science can't exist without philosophy...

And that’s a problem.
😎

I’ll grant you that at the level of the most abstract, sweeping theories, science and philosophy become one—and philosophy definitely tackles those big-picture questions that go beyond raw data, looking at the very foundations of scientific inquiry and what all these discoveries actually mean for us. But—and this is a big but—

1. In actual day-to-day practice, most scientists don't interact with philosophy at all; a brilliant researcher doesn't need to know the first thing about Carnap, Wittgenstein, Kuhn, or Popper to do their job effectively...
2. Philosophers often don't really grasp the science itself. You see them offering interpretations of research results that are completely off base—sort of like someone getting drunk and making wild claims about a single study without having any clue how the entire field actually functions.
3. There was a time when philosophy actually led the way, feeding scientists new ideas, methods, and hypotheses. Nowadays, though, it feels more like philosophy is playing catch-up, trying to make sense of the chaotic flood of scientific and technological breakthroughs we've seen over the last century. Are they even succeeding?

Basically, I don't think we're ever going to see a grand reconciliation or a unified theory of "life, the universe, and everything"...

I could probably pull a mountain of examples from the fields of psychology and cognitive science to illustrate this—if I ever find the time or the motivation. 🙄

Alexander Parker69 said:Punk has always been total garbage to me.

:2up: 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

😁 😁 🙂

np Billy Bragg & Wilco - I guess I planted

Jeffrey Brown6 said:So spirituality and philosophy are actually two totally separate things?
If that's the case, then spirituality is just for --- and philosophy is for people who can't manage to think consistently. 😁

I might have a handle on what philosophy is, but I'm still a bit fuzzy on what spirituality actually entails. 😁 😛
The way I see it, I treat this spirituality subforum primarily as a space to talk about personal experiences. For instance, you could discuss what an encounter with beauty means to you personally, or where you find aesthetic value. Given how you phrased your question in that third sentence of your first post, you're actually dealing with a purely theoretical issue that falls under aesthetics.

Jeffrey Brown6 said:Do you guys really think everything is just in the eye of the beholder?
What could possibly be ugly about a sunset—or a sunrise, if you prefer—on a golden September afternoon?
And conversely, what could there be that's beautiful about looking at a septic tank full of waste and stench?
I mean, if everything is truly relative.

This is honestly one of the most blatant symptoms of anthropocentrism I've ever run into. Hats off to you. 🙏

As for the sunset, I doubt the local nocturnal predators are particularly thrilled by the view. 😁
As for the sewage, you should probably ask the flies. 🙄

I don't know if *everything* is relative, but when it comes to "beauty," I'm fairly certain there are answers if we keep the question broad. If the question is specifically what is beautiful "for humans," then we definitely can't just shrug and say "it's all relative." No one (most likely) is going to claim that sewage is beautiful—not because it's inherently "ugly" in some cosmic sense, but because we, as humans, are wired (whether through evolution or from God, take your pick) to find the smell of waste repulsive.

Jamie Martinez18 said:The day things finally go south and everything turns to chaos, I’m heading straight to the farmers.😁

If they aren't the ones running the show, why are their bosses always just the opening act?😕 😛 😁

It's basically like anti Flag - drink drank punk

Kevin Chavez3 said:What a load of crap! You're really turning down a trade? Your stuff versus my copy of "The Dwarves Come clean"—which is honestly an absolute masterpiece.

Unfortunately, I already picked that one up 😁
Anyway, have you checked out the new Rancid yet? 😉

like Screeching Weasel - I'm gonna strangle you

🙂

np Led Zeppelin - When The Levee breaks 🙏

As far as I can tell, when you're talking about total garbage—take Led Zeppelin, Kiss, or Pink Floyd - Smells Like Teen Spirit, for example 😛

like Pink Floyd - Smells Like Teen Spirit 👋 🙂

Jeffrey Brown6 said:Is beauty an inherent quality of certain things, or is it just something we humans project onto the world?

We’re looking at the core dilemma of aesthetics here—which is why this belongs in a philosophy discussion rather than somewhere else.

What do the mods and the rest of you folks think?

(Personally, I'm a firm believer that all beauty and ugliness is just "in the eye of the beholder.")

Man, you guys are throwing eggs at such obvious targets—it’s like asking someone what kind of music they hate just so they can say Bryan Adams or Cher. 🙄

Hugh Grant 🙄

basically 🤮