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Question about atheists in Spirituality ·
Matthew Mitchell29 said:Think of it this way—you have religions that believe in a transcendent God who exists apart from creation yet actively works within it. Then you have faiths that preach the absolute oneness of the Creator and the creation itself, like those rooted in pantheism or monism. On the other end of the spectrum, there are traditions that completely reject the concept of a Creator altogether, such as Buddhism.

Those are profoundly different perspectives. And they can't all be true at once because their core claims contradict one another.

That analogy doesn't quite hold up for the reasons I mentioned earlier, which is that we are dealing with claims that are fundamentally opposed to one another.
To put it in perspective, two farmers might differ on which type of fertilizer they prefer, but if one insists on watering his potatoes with water, another with milk, and a third with hydrochloric acid, all three certainly cannot be right. We have to determine which one actually has the correct method—the one using water—but we can't claim that everyone holds a little piece of the truth. The Truth (represented by agriculture in this analogy) clearly excludes the idea of using milk or acid.

As far as I know, Buddha didn't speak of any god, nor do Buddhists hold a concept of God as a creator.
At the end of the day, God either exists or He doesn't. He is either personal or impersonal. He is either immanent or transcendent.
The Truth is singular, and universalism doesn't really help us arrive at it in this instance.

So, from what I've gathered over the years—and I could be totally wrong here, I guess—Buddha didn't really go on about any kind of God, you know? Like, Buddhists don't really carry around this heavy concept of God acting as the creator of everything. So, if you think about it, maybe Buddhism isn't actually rejecting the Creator at all, which is kind of a wild thought, right?

I mean, if you’re looking at those kinds of distinctions, then yeah, sure, I totally get where you're coming from. But honestly? Those aren't even the real, core differences that actually matter for someone's spiritual growth. It’s kind of funny when you think about it—one founder says something one way, then later people totally misinterpret them, or maybe they didn't even say it that way to begin with, and then the followers just end up filling in all those little gaps themselves, I guess. When I talk about what's truly essential, I’m talking about things like believing in one God, emphasizing love, and seeing how all souls are interconnected, plus having a solid code of conduct for your everyday life—that's the stuff that actually pushes a person forward. It isn't really vital for someone to obsess over exactly what God looks like or how He functions. And honestly, the most important thing is this: these are questions you just can't reach through your own logic or by hitting the books, because they're basically beyond human reach, sitting right there behind a barrier we can't cross on our own. A person can only really hope to receive reliable insights through some kind of revelation from a higher intelligence—you know, like through an avatar or some other great spiritual figure humanity has been blessed with—or maybe, if they work hard enough, they might just elevate their own spirit high enough to catch a glimpse of the truth themselves.

Matthew Mitchell29 said:Think of it this way—you have religions that believe in a transcendent God who exists apart from creation yet actively works within it. Then you have faiths that preach the absolute oneness of the Creator and the creation itself, like those rooted in pantheism or monism. On the other end of the spectrum, there are traditions that completely reject the concept of a Creator altogether, such as Buddhism.

Those are profoundly different perspectives. And they can't all be true at once because their core claims contradict one another.

That analogy doesn't quite hold up for the reasons I mentioned earlier, which is that we are dealing with claims that are fundamentally opposed to one another.
To put it in perspective, two farmers might differ on which type of fertilizer they prefer, but if one insists on watering his potatoes with water, another with milk, and a third with hydrochloric acid, all three certainly cannot be right. We have to determine which one actually has the correct method—the one using water—but we can't claim that everyone holds a little piece of the truth. The Truth (represented by agriculture in this analogy) clearly excludes the idea of using milk or acid.

As far as I know, Buddha didn't speak of any god, nor do Buddhists hold a concept of God as a creator.
At the end of the day, God either exists or He doesn't. He is either personal or impersonal. He is either immanent or transcendent.
The Truth is singular, and universalism doesn't really help us arrive at it in this instance.

I was just sitting here thinking about how we only ever get these tiny, little scraps of information when it comes to the Truth, you know? It’s like we're looking through a pinhole at something that actually spans these massive, infinite territories, and I guess what I mean is that the sheer scale of it all is just way bigger than anything we could ever fully grasp. 🙂 I mean, honestly, I don't think there's any single religion out there that can just wrap everything up into one perfect little package, you know? It’s kind of impossible, I guess. That's why I feel like we really ought to be focusing on the stuff that actually matters—the core essentials that help a person truly grow and evolve on their own terms. Like, if a certain faith doesn't touch on specific aspects of life, or if it seems to clash with what another tradition teaches, that doesn't suddenly make it useless or mean you should just toss all its wisdom into the trash. Not at all, really. Every bit of it has value, maybe more than we realize at first glance.

I guess you could say that every single religion serves its own little purpose when it comes to someone's individual spiritual journey, right? It’s kind of like how Meher Baba used to say—that God doesn't actually belong to any one specific religion, but rather all religions belong to God. He really seemed to understand why things are set up the way they are with all the different faiths we see today, and honestly, I truly believe it’s supposed to be this way.

Matthew Mitchell29 said:Think of it this way—you have religions that believe in a transcendent God who exists apart from creation yet actively works within it. Then you have faiths that preach the absolute oneness of the Creator and the creation itself, like those rooted in pantheism or monism. On the other end of the spectrum, there are traditions that completely reject the concept of a Creator altogether, such as Buddhism.

Those are profoundly different perspectives. And they can't all be true at once because their core claims contradict one another.

That analogy doesn't quite hold up for the reasons I mentioned earlier, which is that we are dealing with claims that are fundamentally opposed to one another.
To put it in perspective, two farmers might differ on which type of fertilizer they prefer, but if one insists on watering his potatoes with water, another with milk, and a third with hydrochloric acid, all three certainly cannot be right. We have to determine which one actually has the correct method—the one using water—but we can't claim that everyone holds a little piece of the truth. The Truth (represented by agriculture in this analogy) clearly excludes the idea of using milk or acid.

As far as I know, Buddha didn't speak of any god, nor do Buddhists hold a concept of God as a creator.
At the end of the day, God either exists or He doesn't. He is either personal or impersonal. He is either immanent or transcendent.
The Truth is singular, and universalism doesn't really help us arrive at it in this instance.

Like I was mentioning before, I personally feel like we can't even reach that Truth on our own. We can't do it by ourselves. I guess you need some help from above, which is something you probably have to earn.

It feels like today is just such an awkward time for religion and spirituality, in every sense of the word. There are so many opportunities to grow, sure, but there are also so many traps everywhere. Like, if Jesus showed up tomorrow and claimed to be the Son of God, people would probably just laugh in his face. They wouldn't crucify him, I guess, but he'd basically deal with the same kind of mockery he faced back then. So, even a Messiah would have a really tough time navigating the world these days.
Question about atheists in Spirituality ·
wiredfalcon2 said:If it’s always the same soul, why does it show up and tell people not to worship any other gods—implying all the other prophets were fakes—instead of just saying, "Hey, I'm the same guy behind all 7,000 known religions"?

Well, see, the idea is that it's the same soul—I guess Meher Baba is the one who really lays that out, mostly because there are finally people alive today who can actually wrap their heads around it. It wasn't like He showed up and shouted, "Don't follow anyone else but me" (which feels like a totally different vibe), but more like a simple way of saying there's only one God, rather than those hundreds of different deities people used to worship back in the day.

Neither Jesus nor Buddha nor Muhammad ever said, "I am God, so worship me instead of anyone else." The whole message has always been that there is just one God.

It’s also kind of like how they taught that nothing exists outside of God—like, the entire creation, the whole cosmos, even all of us, are basically tucked inside the "body" of God. So, really, there's just the void and God. That specific part or aspect of God where everything was created... well, that's what we call the Creator.
Question about atheists in Spirituality ·
Matthew Mitchell29 said:That said, most religions preach fundamentally different things, yet there can only be one Truth. This means only one of these religions can truly be right—unless they are all wrong.

Any form of universalism—the idea that "all religions hold a fragment of the truth, but none possess the whole"—is itself just another claim or belief. It doesn't carry any more factual weight or logical standing than any specific religion does.

So, the assertion that God "incarnates every 700-1,400 years" is simply another claim that can be debated or believed, but it isn't an absolute certainty. That statement could be true or false, just like the claims made by specific faiths such as Islam or Christianity. In the actual process of searching for the Truth, there really isn't any reason to treat universalism differently than we would any individual religion.

So, what exactly counts as being fundamentally different? I mean, from where I'm sitting, most people are just preaching about things that aren't even essential, you know? Like, they get all hung up on customs, or specific rituals, or little cultural quirks that don't really change the core of anything. To me, Truth is just such a massive, sprawling concept—it’s got so many layers and facets to it, and honestly, it’s almost impossible for any single religion to wrap its arms around the whole thing. You have to remember that these traditions were shaped by people who were, well, pretty average in terms of their level of development. Like, if you look back at the era of Jesus, or even earlier when other major faiths were starting up, the average person couldn't even read, right? It's kind of hard to grasp how one group could capture everything when the tools they had were so limited. I guess it's like trying to expect one single person to be an expert in every single branch of agriculture—it's just too much, because farming itself is made up of so many different specialized fields. It's the same way with spirituality; it's just too big for one bucket. But, I suppose if you take a little bit from here and a little bit from there, and you use a bit of discernment to see how it all fits together, you can probably piece the puzzle together in a pretty reliable way. Maybe.

Matthew Mitchell29 said:That said, most religions preach fundamentally different things, yet there can only be one Truth. This means only one of these religions can truly be right—unless they are all wrong.

Any form of universalism—the idea that "all religions hold a fragment of the truth, but none possess the whole"—is itself just another claim or belief. It doesn't carry any more factual weight or logical standing than any specific religion does.

So, the assertion that God "incarnates every 700-1,400 years" is simply another claim that can be debated or believed, but it isn't an absolute certainty. That statement could be true or false, just like the claims made by specific faiths such as Islam or Christianity. In the actual process of searching for the Truth, there really isn't any reason to treat universalism differently than we would any individual religion.

I mean, I guess there isn't really such a thing as the complete Truth, and honestly, it’s probably for a bunch of different reasons, you know? Like, one big reason might be that the founders of religions—people like Buddha or Jesus—they probably couldn't even if they wanted to tell the whole story, mostly because there just wasn't anyone around who could actually wrap their head around it all. Plus, you have to think about the specific era they were living in, right? For instance, maybe Buddha intentionally avoided talking about a personal God because people back then were just way too obsessed with idols and all those different personal "gods" floating around. It was just too much for them. So, I suppose that's why an Avatar might lean toward this more impersonal "story of Divinity," or maybe they just leave things undefined entirely, because trying to explain it any other way would have just totally confused everyone at the time. Tao Quote. 🙂

Matthew Mitchell29 I guess what they’re saying is...
So, I guess you could say that this whole idea about God "incarnating itself every 700 to 1400 years" is really just another one of those claims out there—you know, something you can try to prove, or maybe just choose to believe, or even totally ignore if it doesn't sit right with you. It’s all kind of up in the air, honestly. That claim could be true, or it could be completely false, in the exact same way that specific religions like Islam or Christianity might be true or not. I mean, when you're actually out there in the thick of it, trying to wrap your head around the Truth, there isn't really any logical reason to treat universalism like it's some special category compared to any other individual religion, I guess. It's all pretty much on the same playing field, really.

So, like, when you really dig into it, we’re talking about Meher Baba, who basically serves as this massive spiritual anchor going back anywhere from 700 to 1400 years, I guess. If you actually take the time to sit down and truly study his life and everything he stood for, it becomes pretty obvious that he was this incredibly profound spiritual authority, you know? But honestly, at the end of the day, it all kind of boils down to what a person chooses to believe, since everyone just gravitates toward whatever feels closest to their own heart or whatever resonates with them most. It's funny because you can't exactly prove whether religious claims are true through some scientific experiment or anything like that; it's more about having that deep, internal experience, which I suppose is always going to be subjective anyway. But for those people who already believe, or maybe they've even had those personal inner experiences themselves, they don't really spend time overthinking or questioning it—they just dive right in and live out their faith.

I mean, you really can't go wrong if you bring up the Sika religion, right? It’s got this super straightforward vibe that teaches followers a pretty simple way to live: just keep your thoughts good, your words kind, and your actions helpful. Honestly, it’s such a practical little guide for daily life, especially when you aren't busy obsessing over heavy stuff like what happens to your soul after you pass away or wondering what brand of sandals Jesus might have been rocking 🙂
Question about atheists in Spirituality ·
wiredfalcon2 said:People say the universe is about 13 billion years old, but even if we stretch the math—and let’s be real, we love rounding numbers up just to feel better—and even if I shave that down to a mere billion years, it’s still wild. It’s absolutely insane that God decided to show up on Earth just once in a physical form, and specifically through His son who only lived for maybe 30 years or so. And right when Christians actually needed Him, too. Talk about slim odds, right? Yet here we are. It happened to us, on this planet, just as humans finally figured out how to write, invented paper, and mastered the art of archiving books. Honestly, feels like divine providence. If this had gone down 30,000 years ago, nobody would have known Jesus was even here; the only record of His existence would’ve been some random scratch on a mud-caked cave wall somewhere.

But, I don't think He only showed up once; I mean, it seems like He shows up every 700 to 1,400 years or so, whenever "darkness takes over" and humanity desperately needs a spiritual nudge. So, from Zarathustra, Rame, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, all the way to Meher Baba, He comes. Even before Zarathustra, when there aren't any records, I bet He was coming back then, too.

Then there's this whole other thing where one religion thinks they're the only ones who got the Messiah, God, or an Avatar, and that the "Truth" is strictly reserved for their followers while everyone else goes to hell—it doesn't matter if they lived a million years ago or today. Like, for instance, Buddhists are waiting for a "future Buddha," a Maitreya Being, but I'd argue He already arrived in the physical form of Jesus. It's really just the same Over-soul coming in all these different forms with specific goals for a particular era, and often a specific region, but always with the goal of lifting up humanity spiritually.

Actually, Meher Baba predicted the future birth of "God in human form" as a scientist in Japan in about 700 years. And it's pretty interesting, I guess, that He always seems to arrive in physical form on the Asian continent.
Is God the subconscious? in Spirituality ·
Scott Miller4 said:Sort of.
Out of what you listed, only "I love you" and "thank you" are tools. You don't actually need x infinity; there are other ways to apply these without that specific setup.
Maybe it's a Brown process or something else entirely.

I guess that's right. That theta state—right before you drift off to sleep or just as you're waking up—seems to be that window where we're actually open to inspiration.

Anyway, I guess I just try to be careful about calling myself "authentic." It's for a pretty simple reason—you know, that whole idea of "declaring something achieved before it actually is" and then getting nothing out of the actual work.😉
Is God the subconscious? in Spirituality ·
Scott Miller4 said:I mostly find my peace through a sense of inner stillness, regardless of whatever chaos decides to land in my lap. Or maybe it’s through creating things. I draw and write, and usually, one or the other needs a specific trigger to get going—but lately, that urge for a spark just isn't there. It's different now. I’ll just wake up with a topic already living in my head, ready to be written down. I guess I remember feeling some version of this back when I was a kid. 🤣

I tend to question things. To me, constant questioning is just common sense, regardless of whatever trendy techniques or zen-like authenticity people try to sell you. I don't see any reason to give that up.

When it comes to fear, I think we’re basically hardwired to dread loud noises or that sudden feeling of the ground slipping out from under us. Everything else? That’s just stuff we pick up along the way. But you make a good point—learned fears are actually pretty useful, even if they do trigger panic attacks every now and then. In a real life-or-death situation, that sharp pain is probably what keeps you from doing something reckless. Like, that stinging sensation might be just enough to stop you from throwing your whole arm into something dangerous. It’s a survival mechanism, I guess.

I don't want to get too deep into the weeds here, so I'll keep it brief. Getting rid of bad habits isn't going to make you forget how to tie your shoelaces, obviously. But it might just stop those negative thought loops in their tracks, or at least help you quit doing things that are clearly working against you.

You're oversimplifying things. I mean, sure, there's a slim chance it might actually cross his mind, but I can't exactly sit here and claim that the possibility doesn't exist at all. Can you?
It’s kind of wild when you think about it—some of the most beautiful poetry ever written actually grew out of pure mathematics, like sestinas or sonnets. Then you have someone like Newton, who basically stumbled onto the concept of gravity while just daydreaming out in his garden. I guess it’s pretty hard to draw a clear line between the two. 😉

Is it kind of like:

I love you.
I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
Thank you.

x infinity

Scott Miller4 said:I mostly find my peace through a sense of inner stillness, regardless of whatever chaos decides to land in my lap. Or maybe it’s through creating things. I draw and write, and usually, one or the other needs a specific trigger to get going—but lately, that urge for a spark just isn't there. It's different now. I’ll just wake up with a topic already living in my head, ready to be written down. I guess I remember feeling some version of this back when I was a kid. 🤣

I tend to question things. To me, constant questioning is just common sense, regardless of whatever trendy techniques or zen-like authenticity people try to sell you. I don't see any reason to give that up.

When it comes to fear, I think we’re basically hardwired to dread loud noises or that sudden feeling of the ground slipping out from under us. Everything else? That’s just stuff we pick up along the way. But you make a good point—learned fears are actually pretty useful, even if they do trigger panic attacks every now and then. In a real life-or-death situation, that sharp pain is probably what keeps you from doing something reckless. Like, that stinging sensation might be just enough to stop you from throwing your whole arm into something dangerous. It’s a survival mechanism, I guess.

I don't want to get too deep into the weeds here, so I'll keep it brief. Getting rid of bad habits isn't going to make you forget how to tie your shoelaces, obviously. But it might just stop those negative thought loops in their tracks, or at least help you quit doing things that are clearly working against you.

You're oversimplifying things. I mean, sure, there's a slim chance it might actually cross his mind, but I can't exactly sit here and claim that the possibility doesn't exist at all. Can you?
It’s kind of wild when you think about it—some of the most beautiful poetry ever written actually grew out of pure mathematics, like sestinas or sonnets. Then you have someone like Newton, who basically stumbled onto the concept of gravity while just daydreaming out in his garden. I guess it’s pretty hard to draw a clear line between the two. 😉

So, like, that daydreaming state—it’s almost like an alpha state where everything is chill and you aren't getting bumped around by the outside world so much, which I think helps our higher intelligence send signals through the subconscious, and then you somehow "read" them, maybe as a fuzzy intuition or just a super clear idea. In that headspace, the ego kind of takes a backseat, which I guess allows the real information to actually reach your conscious mind. That's how a lot of inventions happen, you know? Just like a sudden flash during a relaxed moment, kind of like how Tesla supposedly had that whole breakthrough about the induction motor while he was just taking a stroll through a park without even trying to think about it.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
Paul Jones7 said:Look, from where I'm sitting, there seem to be two ways this could play out—in theory, at least

1. It actually tunes the brain to be a better receiver for spiritual experiences
2. Or, it just tricks the brain into feeling a fake sensation

If we happen to hit on number one—whether that’s by accident or on purpose—then everything else really just comes down to how we choose to label it. It's basically a matter of definition, I guess... what we decide counts as a "spiritual experience" in the first place

But honestly, it feels to me like that 'god helmet' thing was leaning much more toward number two than number one

Though, I guess there might be a third option too:

3. maybe it's an influence that triggers dormant areas of the brain (if you want to be vague about it, like the "right hemisphere") which might eventually happen through evolution, though who knows when that would actually kick in...

If that were the case, then a ton of untapped potential could suddenly flip on and become available to everyone, instead of just being limited to those rare few people we see who seem to have these crazy, unexplainable gifts for stuff like memory, math, or intuition and all that sort of thing
Akasha in Spirituality ·
Morgan Brown5 said:An enlightened teacher from Mexico, while in a state of deep meditation, received this message regarding the Akash, which he uses for gaining insight and providing energetic healing:

On the Akash — the cosmic hub of the Encyclopedia Britannica, April 2012.

Thanks Morgan Brown5, this is seriously awesome. I guess I was a little bit confused at first about what Akasha actually is, because, you know, when Daskalos would contact Akasha, he could learn so much stuff from the past and act as a sort of "witness," almost like watching a movie playing out within a window of time. But maybe that means the answer coming from Akasha doesn't have to be just some written "message," but could also show up as an actual "image." Daskalos wrote a whole book about the life of Jesus by pulling information from Akasha, though there are some differences compared to what Stojanovic received, so I suppose the truthfulness of the answers might depend on a person's spiritual level or how focused, relaxed, and willing they are at the exact moment they ask and receive the answer.

For instance, Daskalos doesn't really mention Jesus's life outside of Palestine, which is kind of interesting since he just skips over those early years, so you could probably conclude he was following the Bible and checking facts against its claims rather than looking outside those specific frameworks. So, he might not have been able to get info beyond that. Meanwhile, he was getting really detailed answers—like, "astral witnessing"—for situations mentioned in the Bible.
Even though it’s totally off-topic, do you happen to know if the dates for Jesus's birth and death (September 3rd and August 8th) are based on the old or the new calendar?
Karma vs. Free Will in Spirituality ·
brightnomad5 said:Karma and free will aren't opposing forces; they work side-by-side. Regardless of whatever karmic consequences are handed down to us at any given moment, we still retain our free will. No karmic consequence can ever nullify that freedom.

Furthermore, our free will isn't infinite; it exists within a specific framework. This isn't necessarily tied to karma (though karma can temporarily narrow that scope), but rather to our own infinitesimal nature. Because we are so insignificantly small, our free will is also limited—it is constrained by our very smallness. God's free will is infinite because He is infinite, whereas ours is limited because we are finite. This is an inherent quality stemming from our fundamental nature, not some unnatural or imposed restriction.

I mean, I guess there's a connection there, yeah. But to me, when a karmic consequence actually hits, it feels more like a temporary pause on our freedom—kind of like when you're finally paying the bill for a choice you made earlier using your own free will. So, anyway, I totally get that they exist in this super delicate balance.

We probably need to take a second to figure out what free will even means, right? It isn't just about doing whatever we want or wandering wherever we feel like. We humans tend to act like we're the only things floating around in the cosmos, so I guess we don't even realize what it would be like *not* to have free will. There are actually beings that lack free will entirely, which the Creator brings into existence through various spiritual energies to handle specific jobs—mostly stuff involving how the universe runs, celestial bodies, or certain eco-systems. For instance, I could mention the types of beings that a famous spiritual teacher and Christian mystic from Cyprus met back in the seventies, or even how someone might experience communicating with them during meditation in the late nineties. Unlike some teachers who were a bit wary of them, others found they could communicate quite naturally. These are basically energy-based beings without physical bodies, living up in Earth's atmosphere, and they rarely ever descend below 124 miles because their forms are just too sensitive to technical radiation and stuff like that. They exist in a fixed number—about 600,000 of them—and their whole purpose is to fix specific imbalances in the atmosphere, if you catch my drift.

Since they don't have free will, they basically come into existence with a pre-set mission, which is a massive difference compared to beings with free will. And here is the big thing: they physically cannot have negative or harmful thoughts. Because of that, they can't take any actions that would hurt anyone. They can only think positively and stay perfectly in sync with the Creator's will. That’s where that "lack of freedom" comes in, and it's such a huge distinction. Humans, on the other hand, have this double-edged sword where we can choose anything, and honestly, civilizations often push that extreme so far that it makes us question our own survival and the planet's future. If you look at history, negative thoughts and actions driven by free will seem to be the rule rather than the exception for us.
Benjamin Taylor6 said:I HAD NO IDEA THAT A BIOENERGY ASSOCIATION WAS CONSIDERED A CULT😍

So, if I lay my hands on a sick person and say, "leave this body," suddenly I'm part of some cult.
If I say, "leave this sickness in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit," then everything is perfectly fine and definitely not a cult.
But if I just tell the illness to go to hell—or use a much more colorful version of that phrase—then apparently I've descended into pure SATANISM.😂

You're pretty much hitting the nail on the head there. Like, it really all just depends on how you word things, I suppose. If you go with option A, you're a cult, but if you pick option B, you're not—even though you're basically doing the exact same thing.

Honestly, I've always thought religion is basically just a cult that grew up and got huge. It's kind of funny when you think about it... a bunch of cultists equals a religion, but just a few of them? Then it's just a cult.
Why did Jesus die? in Religion ·
Harold Reyes3 said:
Not Paul, but Jesus:

And when he went indoors, his disciples asked him about this teaching. He said to them, "Don't you see that nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them? For it doesn't enter the heart but goes into the stomach, and then out of the body?" In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.

Mark 7:17-19

There's a massive question here: did Jesus actually say this if we look at it logically?

If eating pork can give you all sorts of parasites, how exactly did Jesus "cleanse" all foods? If a meal can actually kill you because it's contaminated—like getting worms from undercooked pork—how does that work?

Also, why didn't Jesus eat it if what he was saying was true? It feels hypocritical—saying one thing but doing another. And we know Jesus wasn't a hypocrite, not even close.

I guess what Jesus was getting at was spiritual purity (you know, like "what goes into the heart"), rather than talking about literal intestinal cleanliness.
Why did Jesus die? in Religion ·
Peter Martin said:Well... this is what happens to the children of famous fathers. When the dominant personality in the house is none other than God Himself, He simply sets the bar way too high for a young Jesus. The kid couldn't possibly live up to those massive expectations of being the heir and successor to a father like that. Unable to handle the crushing pressure, he started making all sorts of reckless mistakes... drifting off with the hippies, wandering around unemployed while stealing days from his father, and developing this intense masochism paired with a paranoid rationalization about the value of the lowly and despised—all just trying to compensate for a deep-seated inferiority complex. Ultimately, it cost him his life because he finally surrendered to that masochism during a completely ill-advised confrontation with the police and the authorities. Any mentally sound, mature hippie knows exactly when to back off when playing games with the cops.

So he died for two bucks?
Karma vs. Free Will in Spirituality ·
Chris Peterson53 said:You're wrong.
There is a whole string of events in a person's life that simply cannot be altered—regardless of how much free will, effort, or sheer grit you throw at them, even when those events are known in advance.
I can't speak to the Indian mindset since I'm not familiar with it, but I know plenty of stories—including my own—where predetermined events were impossible to change. Even when people were warned ahead of time, they fought tooth and nail for long periods to try and prevent, divert, or alter
what was coming.

I guess there are just some events that are completely out of our hands—things where the probability is basically 100% no matter what we do—which is what most people call fate. It’s probably like karma, you know, something that just has to play out. Everyone deals with a different amount of these moments, but it feels to me like people also try to label a lot of things as "destiny" even when they aren't necessarily preordained.
Why did Jesus die? in Religion ·
velvetmaker39 said:Should we really believe everything someone writes down?

I mean, you really shouldn't just swallow everything anyone puts on paper, you know? I guess we all have this brain to actually think things through—it's a gift from God, after all. Plus, you have this whole opportunity to grow spiritually enough to just go out and do your own research. Like, you're literally writing books! 🙂 Then again, I suppose you always have the option to just be a sheep and gulp down every single contradiction you stumble upon just because it’s in some "holy scripture." Seriously though, life is just overflowing with possibilities, and I'm honestly so thankful to the Creator for that.
Why did Jesus die? in Religion ·
Alex Ramos91 said:@benizg
Picture this scenario:
George, a decent family man, heads home after an exhausting day at work. He’s just looking forward to some peace and quiet with his family to recharge from all the stress. He’s already thinking about grabbing a burger with his son on the way in.
But when he walks through the door, he finds the front door wide open and a window smashed. He rushes inside, and what he sees is absolutely gut-wrenching.
His son is lying in a pool of blood, and a robber is struggling with his wife.
Driven by pure adrenaline, George jumps the attacker and takes him down. The police show up and haul the guy off to jail.
After some time passes, the robber goes to trial. He confesses to everything, and the judge hands down the verdict:
"The facts are clear: you committed murder and robbery out of pure greed. According to the law, you deserve the harshest sentence possible—the death penalty.
However, since you seem genuinely remorseful, and because I am a merciful judge full of love, I’m dropping all charges. You're free to go."

Was that a fair trial? What would George think about that?
George tells the reporters, "This is a total joke! We’re filing an appeal with the Supreme Court immediately. There’s a judge sitting on that bench who is more crooked than the criminal who murdered my son!" 😠

So, where does justice stand? 😕

It’s obvious to anyone watching this fake scenario that the verdict is a sham. That judge isn't being just, and he isn't being merciful or loving (even if he claims he is).

But here’s the kicker: many people believe that God is exactly like that kind of judge!
At least when it comes to judging them personally, or perhaps someone they loved dearly who passed away recently.

Someone might argue, "But doesn't the Bible say that God is love?"
Sure, He is. But God is also holy and just, and His love can't be unjust, unlike that ridiculous judge in our story. The Bible also explicitly states that God detests those who justify the wicked and those who condemn the righteous.
Because God cannot be unjust—meaning He is always perfectly consistent with His own character—He must judge anyone who violates His law, whether it’s a "minor" slip-up (like something you or I might do) or a massive atrocity (like a neighbor's crime or even Hitler).

Back in Eden, Adam and Eve only needed one sin (and it didn't even seem that huge at the time) to be kicked out of Paradise and cut off from God's presence.
The Bible says the wages of sin is death, which is a spiritual law consistent with God's righteous nature. And I'm not talking about physical death—Adam and Eve didn't drop dead that very day—I'm talking about spiritual death: eternal separation from God and His love and grace.

Throughout our lives, we all rack up a mountain of small and large sins. If we compare ourselves to our neighbors, we might feel like we're doing okay. But a righteous God can't just overlook our failures or sweep them under the rug. As Abraham once asked God: "Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?" (Genesis 18:25)
Isaiah, who was arguably one of the most upright and holy men of his era, stood before God's throne in a vision and cried out in desperation: "Woe is me! I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, Yahweh of Armies!" (Isaiah 6:5)
Even a man who lived a life of peak morality and spent his mission calling out injustice, when faced with God's holiness, realized the first thing: that he himself was a sinner before God and subject to His righteous judgment.

If that's the case for someone like Isaiah, do you or I stand any chance before a God like that?
Does God's holiness and righteousness leave any room for His love? 😕

In this seemingly impossible situation, God, in His love, provided a solution. And it's a solution that will magnify both of those traits to an unimaginable scale.

Jesus, the Son of God, came from the pure and holy heavens down to this filthy, fallen planet—right into the middle of people who aren't even looking for Him, people who are actively rebelling against Him and trying to wash their consciences clean with "good deeds."
He was the pure and holy King, yet He was born into the absolute depths of poverty in a cave surrounded by livestock, part of a struggling provincial family with the social stigma of nobody knowing who His father was.
For thirty years, He was obedient to His imperfect earthly parents because He wanted to do His Father’s will.
Then He stepped into public life, doing good and teaching people how to live right.
He hung out with the very people society looked down on: tax collectors, prostitutes, lepers.
He never chased fame or cared about what people thought of Him. When they tried to crown Him, He just walked away.
Whenever He healed someone or pulled off a miracle, He made sure nobody found out, because He didn't want to be known just for those things.
In the end, His close friend betrays Him, everyone else abandons Him, and they all pretend they never even knew Him.
He gets hit with false accusations, an unfair trial, mockery, beatings... and He dies the most brutal and shameful death possible for that era—hanging on a Roman cross.

What does any of that have to do with God's righteousness or His love?
Think about it: Jesus, the only man to ever walk this earth without sin, dies the most agonizing death imaginable. Was that just some freak accident that messed up God's plan?

Just a day or two before He is killed, Jesus knows exactly what's coming, and He says this: "My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow, what can I say? Father, will You take this hour from me? No, because that is why I came! Father, glorify Your name!" (John 12:27)
Jesus came to this world specifically for that death on the cross.
The night before He is arrested, He was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane at the foot of the Mount of Olives. He was shaking like a leaf, pleading desperately with the Father, until the sweat on His forehead turned to blood. He prayed: "Father! If it is Your will, take this cup from me. But not my will, but Yours be done!" (Luke 22:42)
But the Father's will was for Him to take that path, and He accepted it without complaining or wanting revenge on the people who were going to crucify Him.

But there is something deeply strange here.
Why on earth would Jesus, the Son of God, be trembling like a weakling when facing physical death on a cross?🤷
I mean, thousands upon thousands of Christians in the centuries that followed went to Roman crosses or faced lions in arenas with songs on their lips, yet here is the very source of their salvation, shaking like a total coward in front of the cross.

So, what was actually inside that cup the Father offered His Son to drink to the dregs?

Here are just two examples where God's cup is mentioned and what it contains:
"For in the hand of Yahweh is a cup overflowing with wine, spiced with aromatic herbs; He feeds from it, and all the wicked of the earth will drain it to the dregs." (Psalm 75:9)
"...they shall drink the wine of God's wrath, undiluted, poured into the cup of His fury!" (Revelation 14:10)

When Peter stood up to defend Him with a sword against the soldiers coming to arrest Him along with Judas, Jesus tells him:
"Put your sword away! Should I not drink the cup the Father has given me?" (John 18:11)

That cup of righteous, divine anger against sin and those who commit it—that was what was handed to Jesus.
He, the only one who was sinless, always pure and holy, had to take my sins and yours upon Himself. He had to face not just Pontius Pilate or the Jewish Sanhedrin, but the holy, righteous, and almighty God, who must judge sin according to justice—with death!
Jesus wasn't afraid in the Garden of Gethsemane of Judas, or the Romans, or being whipped, or the nails, or the wooden cross... He was trembling at the thought of the righteous and angry judgment of God against sin that He was about to shoulder.

And that judgment began when darkness fell over the earth at noon and Jesus cried out from the cross: "My God, my God! Why have You forsaken me?"
This is the one spot in the New Testament where Jesus addresses God as "God" instead of the usual "Father" he uses to celebrate Him. That sin he took upon himself? It shattered the perfect, eternal bond he shared with the Father. And in that moment, God was judging him for the sins of the entire world. God was judging Him for the murders, the human trafficking, the pedophilia, the drug dealing, 9/11—every single disgusting, vile thing we’ve ever done, including all those white lies and those little tax evasions... For all of it, Jesus had to settle the score. The violent lashes of righteous anger from God against those sins tore right through Him. In that moment, Jesus was truly experiencing hell—the total separation from the Father's face while facing God's wrath toward sin.

But then, just three hours later, Jesus cries out, "It is finished!" He drank the cup of God's wrath to the very last drop. Divine justice was satisfied. And finally, He turns back to the Father once more: "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit."
His dead body was laid in a tomb, and after three days, God raised Him from the dead, proving once and for all that justice was fully served on that cross!

So the question for us is this: what are we going to do about our own sins?
Are we going to try to earn our way out through good deeds or some version of religion we made up for ourselves? Are we going to just ignore them? Or are we going to imagine God as some sweet, senile old grandpa who’ll just give us a little pat on the back...
Or are we actually going to admit it: if God really is holy and righteous, then our sin is so massive that it would drive us away from His presence. We have to admit we can't redeem ourselves. We have to hand the entire weight of our sin over to Jesus so He can pay it for us.

Is it really that simple?
When the Apostles were spreading this Good News, they told people to repent—which means turning away from their sins—and to believe.
God saw it all coming, and now, no one has to stand before the righteous judgment of God.
They don't *have* to, but unfortunately, plenty of people will end up standing before God with their sins because they were too proud to submit to Him and to His solution for humanity's greatest problem.

If you truly want God (and I mean the real God, not the fake image people manufacture in their heads) and if you want to be rid of the crushing weight of sin that makes you guilty before Him, God has already provided the answer. He showed such love that He gave His beloved Son to pay for your sin, to wipe away your guilt so you can have uninterrupted fellowship with Him through Jesus. But there is only one condition: you have to repent, turn away from your sin, and believe that Jesus truly died for you and paid your debt on that shameful cross.

But, honestly, maybe it didn't even go down quite like that, even though Matthew 27:46 says so, since there are these contradictions in the Gospels. I mean, he had the high priests from the Sanhedrin up there on the cross with him—the same guys who sentenced him—along with Caiaphas, all mocking him. And back then, Jesus spoke in Aramaic:

Vmar Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani


My God, my God, why have you abandoned me within them?

I think it's super important to understand the context behind this statement, because it confuses so many people; it makes it look like God just ditched His own son on the cross, which doesn't make any sense at all.
Why did Jesus die? in Religion ·
silenthound4 said:🤦 Oh, come on, Gregory Jackson.... everyone else was just dying later on as martyrs for some political agenda... but hey, your logic is something else... 🤦

What kind of political goal are we even talking about here?? If they hadn't gone for an open confrontation, Christianity probably wouldn't have even survived, it would've been wiped out like a newborn baby. So, I suppose they had to sacrifice the leader just to save the rest of the family.
Why did Jesus die? in Religion ·
Angela Martin20 said:I feel like a complete idiot right now, but whatever
from what I gather, Jesus was accused of all sorts of things, but I'm really stuck on the part where he redeemed our sins through his death... like, why? How exactly does his passing lead to our salvation?

I guess one of his main goals was basically setting up a new faith that would stay close to the truth and guide people toward more positive thoughts and actions—though how successful that actually was is probably a whole different conversation—which would eventually lift human consciousness to a higher level. At one point during his mission, Palestine was totally split between those for him and those against him. Or, like, how Jesus put it—the father against the son, the daughter against the mother—and there was this real threat of a massive civil war breaking out, which probably would have just wiped out the few active followers left and shut down the whole movement before it even got going. So, maybe it was necessary for his life on Earth to reach the end of the world, because instead of just leaving behind a living leader who could be physically taken out, he created this legend that's impossible to destroy, and honestly, its impact ends up being way more effective than any living leader could ever be. Things like the resurrection, the earthquake, and the darkening of the Sun during the crucifixion, plus the way he appeared to his disciples later on, all helped build up that mystique and confirmed everything he always claimed—that he is God's son. Once that legend took hold, it just couldn't be stopped, and with the help of the Holy Spirit, the apostles spread this new religion everywhere, which likely wouldn't have happened if they had been caught up in a violent civil war.
Karma vs. Free Will in Spirituality ·
dustyraven26 said:When an individual attempts to meet the challenges of a shifting reality using outdated methods—even those that were once highly successful—they inevitably fall out of sync with the world around them, essentially failing to respect its evolution, which carries significant consequences.
In my view, clinging to these old ways isn't a conscious choice, but rather a deeply ingrained habit, or conditioning.
I would further suggest that reality initially offers subtle warnings; if one chooses to ignore these minor signals, the repercussions eventually escalate. The sheer frequency of horrific car accidents and acts of rage-driven violence serves as a grim testament to those most severe consequences.

Regarding the most effective course of action, I don't consider it a matter of choice either. Once a person truly perceives its necessity, they will naturally begin to apply it.

Man, this stuff up there is seriously huge, and I feel like people just totally miss the point most of the time. I find myself constantly wondering why things turn out the way they do, and honestly, I try to take those little signs as warnings, though I don't always catch them when they're staring me right in the face. It kind of makes me think that our current vibes and actions are basically steering us toward the most likely version of the future—which, I mean, maybe that’s true, unless we're dealing with some kind of karmic situation? Like, if free will isn't actually fully on the table because karma has stepped in, then we might not even have the option to pick a different path. If that's the case, it feels like every single move we make is just funneling us toward one specific destiny, almost as if karma is narrowing down our choices just to force us through some kind of soul growth or learning process. It sounds pretty positive when you put it that way, I guess, but since we aren't really aware of it happening, we probably just chalk it up to being lucky or getting punished or something like that.

dustyraven26 said:When an individual attempts to meet the challenges of a shifting reality using outdated methods—even those that were once highly successful—they inevitably fall out of sync with the world around them, essentially failing to respect its evolution, which carries significant consequences.
In my view, clinging to these old ways isn't a conscious choice, but rather a deeply ingrained habit, or conditioning.
I would further suggest that reality initially offers subtle warnings; if one chooses to ignore these minor signals, the repercussions eventually escalate. The sheer frequency of horrific car accidents and acts of rage-driven violence serves as a grim testament to those most severe consequences.

Regarding the most effective course of action, I don't consider it a matter of choice either. Once a person truly perceives its necessity, they will naturally begin to apply it.

I mean, honestly, I don't think this guy is seeing things objectively at all, you know? And if we’re being real, I guess most people aren't even capable of truly analyzing an election anyway. It usually just comes down to a gut feeling or, more often than not, people just chasing whatever short-term gain or material benefit they can grab right in front of them, which, I suppose, always ends up causing some kind of deep spiritual damage in the long run.

So, I guess it feels like we don't really have much of a choice in any of this, right? Like, the situation is kind of set in stone or whatever, but hey, maybe there's still a little bit of wiggle room left because at least we can still head down to the polls and cast our votes for whoever we think actually makes sense. 🙂
Karma vs. Free Will in Spirituality ·
fadedrider17 said:Look, you aren't some mindless puppet being jerked around by strings—you’ve always had the freedom to choose. In fact, there are more options available to us than people realize, provided one knows where to look; they're clearly laid out, if you will. This goes directly to the author and his initial post.

Yeah, I suppose that could be true. It's just that maybe only one of those paths has been "seen" before, so I guess it probably felt like the most likely option to go with.
Karma vs. Free Will in Spirituality ·
Paul Jones7 said:Enlightenment essentially fulfills karma; it's more like consciousness outgrows the need for karma because you've passed all the necessary tests. You can't really dodge karma. Trying to skip it would be like asking if you could skip elementary school and jump straight into high school—or even go from third grade straight to tenth. Is it possible? Sure, if you already have the knowledge of a high school graduate. But is it realistic? Probably not. Some people breeze through years by learning faster, while others have to repeat them. That’s where the flexibility comes in.

Enlightenment isn't a skill. It’s not some secret cheat code designed to launch someone into the heavens via pure consciousness. Enlightenment should really be seen as a roadmap reflecting the righteous work done up to that point. There is no shortcut or trick to reaching it. You earn enlightenment through a complete, thorough moral education and the breadth of consciousness you demonstrate during your life. One big mistake people make is deciding to pursue spirituality by retreating into their own little bubble—just isolating themselves and studying spiritual texts. They think they're working toward enlightenment, but they're actually just showing selfishness. They forget that true spirit is found in community, in simple friendship, in basic honesty, and in love for your neighbor, for the truth, and for both yourself and others.

The ego is the part of us looking for shortcuts. The soul is what actually wants the result—and that result is getting closer to what truly *is* and expanding our awareness. Since consciousness is present in any given moment, that consciousness is effectively demonstrated in real-time. Situations tend to repeat themselves like litmus tests, revealing everything and hiding nothing. What we do, and even what we fail to do, pretty much lays everything bare about who we are.

👍 (I mean, I really hope I don't get banned for this one)