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Multi-quote rule in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Help topic 😉
The master thread covering everything you need to know about how this forum works

Honestly, I don't see what the issue could be once you actually read through this thread.🤷
And figuring out how to edit a post isn't exactly rocket science. If you can figure out where to click to write a message or how to handle Quoting someone, you should be able to figure out how to edit.
It’s not some complex science, and the edit button isn't exactly hidden in a secret location where you can't find it.🤷
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Why is everyone just sitting there staying silent instead of actually saying anything?

Because people couldn't care less about anything until some massive "situation" hits them. Then, suddenly, everyone remembers they wish the rules had been changed before the season even started.😍

And this season, we’re clearly being extra lazy since we can't even get the registrations in on time.😢
What's the deal with ACTA? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Henry Hernandez7 said:I didn't even make the poll, I just started the thread. Some other guy on the Forum added the poll question, then a moderator merged the two threads. Can you even set it to be a public poll if you're not the one who made it?

Well, he clearly forgot to check the box to make it public.🤷

It’s not a moderator issue—honestly, does he even have the permissions to edit polls in the first place?🤷

From what I can tell, there's no way to flip a switch and turn a private poll into a public one after the fact.
At least I don't see that option on my sub-forum, even though I can edit polls myself.
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
I don't get what you meant about fixing the list.🤷

If you're asking why the finalists are listed after third place, it's simple.
Since I can't cram everyone into the top 8, two of them had to go.
I didn't have a genius way to decide who goes ahead of whom, so I just cut both.😳

Messing with big versus small groups feels silly to me because people will just exploit it—like someone dropping out of two races right before the end could screw over the smaller group.
My other idea was to pull the trophy winner, but that’s just dumb. I'm not stripping a winner just to make room for finalists on a list.🤷

Besides, being in the top three for the full season (with all those players) feels harder than just taking second in a tournament where there are only two rounds and fewer people involved.🤷

darkmarlin16 said:Honestly, I’d tweak the rankings a bit 🙂

8. finalist from the 1st F1 tournament
9. finalist from the 2nd F1 tournament
10. third place finisher in the F1 championship

A banned competitor still keeps their right to play, basically by submitting an offer or response via a post from the account that got banned, which the moderator will then pass along to the super league thread.

I don't really get this part 😕

And while we're talking about the schedule, I'd make a minor adjustment there too 😳
Once we finish round 14, I'd split the league into two separate groups 🙂 (the championship league and the relegation league). That way, everyone gets to play two more matches within their specific group. The person at the bottom would be kicked out of the league unless they happened to win one of the championships—if they did, then the drop-out spot goes to the next worst-placed person who hasn't won anything.

To be blunt, this current format with the crappy triple round-robin system just doesn't sit right with me, and I definitely don't think it's the fairest way to do things 🙂

Look, even if you're banned, you can still report a post. Just put the matchups, the offer, or the answer in the report, and I'll move it to the thread myself.
And those reports go to all the mods on this sub, so if I'm not around, someone else will grab it.

We used this exact setup last year for the tournament and the league. If I remember right, we even did some predictions using this system.

darkmarlin16 said:Honestly, I’d tweak the rankings a bit 🙂

8. finalist from the 1st F1 tournament
9. finalist from the 2nd F1 tournament
10. third place finisher in the F1 championship

A banned competitor still keeps their right to play, basically by submitting an offer or response via a post from the account that got banned, which the moderator will then pass along to the super league thread.

I don't really get this part 😕

And while we're talking about the schedule, I'd make a minor adjustment there too 😳
Once we finish round 14, I'd split the league into two separate groups 🙂 (the championship league and the relegation league). That way, everyone gets to play two more matches within their specific group. The person at the bottom would be kicked out of the league unless they happened to win one of the championships—if they did, then the drop-out spot goes to the next worst-placed person who hasn't won anything.

To be blunt, this current format with the crappy triple round-robin system just doesn't sit right with me, and I definitely don't think it's the fairest way to do things 🙂

I'm not really down for radical system changes right before the start.
Honestly, I don't have anything against the idea, but I'm not jumping on board either.🤷
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
Just so we're clear, the first offer needs to be submitted by midnight on March 13, 2012 at the latest.

That means we need everyone signed up at least about 7 days ahead of time so we can actually set the schedule and figure out who's making the offers.

Because of that, I'm moving the registration deadline up to March 5, 2012.
I've already sent a PM to everyone eligible who hasn't signed up yet.

I don't want any whining later about someone jumping onto the list as a reserve ahead of you when you actually had the right to join based on last year's results.

Also, we should probably settle on the filling order for 2013 now, since we really need to get this done before the season kicks off.


So, here’s my proposed list:
15. Order of filling the F1 super league next year:
1. F1 super league champion
2. F1 championship winner
3. Winner of F1 tournament 1
4. Winner of F1 tournament 2
5. Winner of the precision trophy - overall
6. F1 championship runner-up
7. F1 super league runner-up
8. Third place in the F1 championship
9. Finalist of F1 tournament 1
10. Finalist of F1 tournament 2
11. Winner of the precision trophy - championship
12. Third place in the F1 super league
13. Third place in F1 tournament 1
14. Third place in F1 tournament 2
15. Winner of the precision trophy - tournament
16. Fourth place in the F1 championship
17. Fourth place in F1 tournament 1
18. Fourth place in F1 tournament 2
19. Runner-up of the precision trophy - overall
20. Fifth place in the F1 championship
21. F1 championship team champion (better)
22. Fifth place in F1 tournament 1
23. Fifth place in F1 tournament 2
24. F1 championship team runner-up (better)
25. Third place in the precision trophy - overall
26. Sixth place in the F1 championship

We also need to fix point 12.
Like this:

A. Banned users have no right to compete
B. A competitor can only post their predictions using the specific username they used to register, unless an admin changes it. A banned competitor still has the right to play; they just have to send their offer/response via a post from the account that was banned, and then the moderator will relay it to the super league thread.

The way we're doing things now is definitely not working. Honestly, I have no clue who even has access to that email anymore.🤷
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
Either you're signing up or you're not. ☕

Ultimatums don't work on me, and I have zero intention of changing the rules just because someone wants to throw an ultimatum my way. 🤣

If you've got a smarter list to propose, lay it out. If the majority actually agrees with it, there's a good chance we'll change things.

It's not like team results should even matter here, but let's start by having a better list on the table before we move forward.
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
Am I fast enough?😁

Anyway, where are all the girls?
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
ruggedfox28 said:I feel like the biggest drama right now is all this noise about how we fill the spots in the super league.. we really ought to shake things up for this season.. maybe go with a betting house style or have the team champion take on the weaker side...

First off, are you actually signing up or what?
I don't really feel like digging through the rulebook, but I'm pretty sure registration order matters too. 😬

As for the lineup selection process, that's almost certainly going to have to change.
If you've got an idea, lay it on me.🤷
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
First reports are already rolling in😍

It’s about time a title defender like you stepped up to clean things up this year too🙂
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
It’s officially time to sign up for the super league 2012 if you actually want to play this season.
Here is the list of players cleared to compete in the 2012 season: 🙂

Once we wrap up sign-ups, here is what's next on the agenda:
- Picking the 2012 Super League Manager
- Tweaking the rules if necessary

Since I ran the show last year, I don't mind stepping up again this time around.
That said, if you have someone else in mind or want to throw your own hat in the ring for manager, please speak up.
Once the candidates are sorted, I’ll drop a poll right here in this thread so everyone can vote.

Regarding the rules—if you have beef with the current ones or a bright idea to make them better, feel free to share it with the rest of the community.😁

That's all for now. Let's get this new season moving. 👋

Dammit, but I am official.😬
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
Paskaneman - Pangloss 4-8
Narain Karthikeyan
- Pedro de la Rosa 1-1
Heikki Kovalainen - Vitaly Petrov 1-1
Kamui Kobayashi - Sergio Perez 0-3
Daniel Ricciardo - Jean-Éric Vergne 0-3
Paul di Resta - Nico Hulkenberg 2-0
Paskaneman - Pangloss 0-3

Rosa - maminho 1-12

Perez - Kobayashi 0-3
Petrov - Kovalainen 1-1
Maldonado - Senna 0-3
Hamilton - Button 0-3
Rosberg - Massa 0-2
Rosa - maminho 0-3

Rosa1-1 TBF1D - Patagonija 7-5

Nico Rosberg - Michael Schumacher 2-0
Heikki Kovalainen - Vitaly Petrov 1-1
Jean-Éric Vergne - Daniel Ricciardo 0-3
Jenson Button - Lewis Hamilton 3-0
Narain Karthikeyan - Pedro de la Rosa 1-1
Rosa1-1 TBF1D - Patagonija 2-0

Ferstar - MAXYM 15-0

No response to the offer
Ferstar - MAXYM 2-0

OVERALL STANDINGS:
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MATCHUPS:
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Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
1. stormybadger8
2. Ferstar
3. MAXYM
4. maminho
5. Patagonija
6. Paskaneman
7. Pangloss

8. Sheldon


1. reserve - Gilberth
2. reserve - rosi
3. reserve - WayOut

4. reserve - appalachia
5. reserve - Bjesomar_
6. reserve - Kimi#1



Obviously, as per usual, anyone actually wanting to play in the F1 Super League 2012 needs to sign up.

Reserves won't be considered either if people drop out or if we don't have enough candidates.

Deadline to sign up is March 5, 2012.


As sign-ups roll in, I'll highlight the players in blue right here in this post.
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
1. Reddit F1 Super League is an exclusive competition featuring the top eight performers from last season's various forum contests. If someone decides to sit this one out and doesn't sign up here, the next reserve based on last year's standings steps in. You can find the lineup for next year's eligible participants in rulebook section 15. The tournament director posts official race results and standings in this thread, and the moderator will pin them to the first page. This thread is where you submit your picks and responses to play the Super League.
A valid entry counts as sending your initial offer. Once your opponent's deadline passes, you have the right to respond to their pick immediately. However, as a one-time exception, when a competitor submits their very first offer of the season, they are allowed one single edit to that specific opening pick, provided it’s done before the deadline.


2. The competition works by having contestants face off in head-to-head duels three times per season, following a pre-set schedule drawn at random. During the first and second rounds of the Super League, everyone plays everyone else. In the third round, however, the matchups are seeded based on merit—meaning the standings at the end of round two determine the pairings, giving higher-ranked players an easier path through the finals.

3. Here is how the system breaks down:
The person setting the offer must do so by Tuesday at midnight during the week of the race. They pick five pairs without any restrictions; instead of picking drivers themselves, their opponent does the heavy lifting by bolding five favorites they believe will finish ahead of the other driver (or marking 1 or 2 next to them). This must be completed no later than 10 minutes before Saturday's qualifying starts. Any drivers not specifically marked automatically become the "favorites" for the person who set the offer.

4. Once the race is over, secondary points are handed out like this:
Winning a duel where no drivers DNF – 3 points
Winning a duel where the loser DNFs – 2 points
Winning a duel where the loser fails to even start – 1 point
A tie where both drivers DNF or don't start – 1 point each

5. After adding up those secondary points for each pair, we hand out the main points:
Winning against an opponent's pick - 3 points
Winning against your own pick - 2 points
A draw – 1 point each

6. To figure out the final League standings, we use these tiebreakers:
a) The person with more main points takes it.
b) If tied, the person with the better secondary point differential wins.
c) Still tied? Look at who had more main points in their head-to-head matches.
d) If still stuck, check the secondary point differential from those head-to-head matches.
e) If that doesn't work, the person with more total wins moves up.
f) If that fails, the person with more individual pair wins wins.
g) Finally, if all else fails, whoever has more secondary points takes the spot.

7. You can actually get your offer in as soon as the previous race ends. The official deadline is Tuesday at midnight before the upcoming race week. Honestly, there aren't any real penalties for being late; if you send your pick at 12:01 AM on Wednesday, we'll still take it. However, if you miss the window entirely, your most recent valid offer from the League stands, and your opponent can choose to respond to that.
If a responder misses an old offer and a new one lands in the meantime, they have to answer the new one.
If the responder replies to the old offer before a new one arrives, the person making the offer loses a joker.
If a competitor fails to send a response, their opponent gets the maximum possible points—that’s 2 main points and 15 secondary ones—and the responder loses a joker.
In the event of a dispute where responses to both the old and new offers are sent at basically the same time (within a +/- 5-minute window), the bidder still loses a joker. The response to the old offer counts as valid, and the new offer is treated as a fresh start for the next round; you can't go back and change it.

8. Each competitor gets 3 "jokers" per season. If there's no new offer, the old one stands by default, costing the player one joker. You also lose a joker for every missed response.
Once a competitor burns through all their jokers, they’re automatically disqualified from the super league for both the current and following seasons upon the next missed response. Their spot goes to the first reserve on the list starting the very next race.
Once a competitor burns through all their jokers, they’re out of the super league for this season and the next after the next missed response. Their spot is taken by the top reserve on the list immediately during that same race. In this case, the responder is required to answer the first offer sent by that reserve, which was provided during the initial registration, within that same round.
When a reserve competitor steps in, they take over the remaining match schedule of the disqualified player, but they don't get any of those points already earned.


9. If a competitor fails to send a response in the third round, or sends an invalid one, and there's reasonable suspicion they did it just to help someone else climb the standings, penalties will be handed out. Both the offender and the person who benefited will be punished. The penalty is decided by the manager and the Reddit F1 moderators via a majority vote.

10. Once offers and responses are sent, they're final. No deleting, no editing, no sending new ones. Breaking this rule means handing the opponent max points and losing a joker. If a competitor submits an incomplete offer with fewer than five pairs, they can supplement it until the opponent responds. If they don't, the opponent gets the maximum secondary points for the missing pairs. If they submit more than five pairs, only the first five count, and no corrections are allowed.

11. If everyone agrees, competitors can swap home/away status for any reason during the first round. If they do this, the status will automatically swap again in the second round so that each competitor hosts once. In rounds two and three, swapping home/away status is off the table. Also, you absolutely cannot change the match pairings drawn before the competition starts.
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
1. The Reddit F1 Super League is an invite-only competition featuring the top eight performers from last season's various forum racing series. If someone can't make the cut, the next person in line based on last year's standings steps in as a reserve. Next year's qualifying spots are detailed in rulebook section 15. Official results and rankings are posted by the league director in this thread, and the moderator will pin them to the first page for easy access while everyone else posts their picks and plays the Super League here.

2. We run this thing by having competitors face off head-to-head in triple round-robin duels, following a predetermined schedule drawn at random. During the first and second rounds of the Super League, everyone sets their own offers. In the third round, things get more organized—offers are set based on merit according to the standings at the end of round two, meaning the leaders get an easier path through the final stretch.

3. Here’s how the system works:
The person setting the offer has until midnight on Tuesday of the race week to submit five pairs of matchups. There are no restrictions on which pairs you pick, but you don't actually pick the drivers. Instead, your opponent does that by bolding their five favorites—basically marking them with a 1 or a 2 to indicate who they think will finish higher in the pair. This has to be done no later than 10 minutes before Saturday's qualifying starts. Any drivers they don't mark automatically become the favorites for the person receiving the offer.

4. Once the race is over, players earn these bonus points:
Winning a duel where no drivers DNF – 3 points
Winning a duel where the loser DNFs – 2 points
Winning a duel where the loser fails to start – 1 point
A draw where both drivers DNF or fail to start – 1 point each

5. After totaling those bonus points for each pairing, we hand out the main points:
Winning against an opponent's offer - 3 points
Winning your own offer - 2 points
A draw – 1 point each

6. To figure out the final League standings, we use these tiebreakers:
a) Whoever has more main points wins.
b) If tied there, the person with the better bonus point differential wins.
c) Still tied? The person with more main points from their head-to-head matchups wins.
d) If it's still a wash, look at the bonus point differential from those head-to-head matches.
e) If we're still stuck, the person with the most total wins takes it.
f) Tied again? More individual pair wins breaks the tie.
g) Last resort: whoever has more total bonus points wins.

7. You can actually send your offer as soon as the previous race wraps up. The official deadline is Tuesday at midnight before the race week, but honestly, we aren't strict about it—if you post at 12:01 AM on Wednesday, it still counts. However, if you miss the deadline entirely, your last submitted offer from the League stays active, and your opponent gets to respond to that. If they don't respond to the old one and a new one pops up in the meantime, they have to answer the new one. If someone misses the window in the first two rounds when there isn't an old offer yet, or if they're so late their opponent can't respond, the opponent gets the max payout: 3 main points and 15 bonus points. Also, if the responder is logged in or posting on Reddit between the late offer and qualifying but ignores it, the offer-setter gets the max points—provided the offer was posted at least an hour before the response deadline.

8. If a competitor fails to submit a new entry or response for three consecutive races, they’ll be automatically disqualified from the rest of the competition, provided there's a reserve competitor available to step into the super league. If a reserve steps in, they take over the remaining schedule left by the disqualified person, but they don't get to inherit any of those points.

9. If someone misses the deadline for a response or just doesn't reply to an offer, their opponent gets the maximum haul: 2 main points and 15 secondary points.
If a participant sends a fake response during the third round—or any other way that looks like they're clearly trying to rig things for someone else—both they and the beneficiary will face penalties. These will be decided by the tournament directors and the Reddit F1 moderators through a majority vote.

10. Once an entry or response is sent, it’s final. No deleting, no editing, no "oops, let me fix that." Breaking this rule means handing your opponent the maximum points. If you submit an incomplete entry with fewer than five pairs, you can add to it until your opponent responds; if you don't, your opponent gets the max secondary points for the missing slots. If you send more than five pairs, we only care about the first five—no corrections allowed after that.

11. Competitors can agree to swap home status for any reason during the first round. If they do, the order swaps automatically in the second round so everyone gets a turn hosting. After the second round, the home/away setup is locked in. Also, you can't mess with the pairing schedule once the tournament starts.

12. You have to post your predictions using the exact username you registered with. The only exception is if an admin changes it. If you're a banned user, you can still play by submitting your entry via your banned account; a moderator will then manually move it to the thread. If you don't follow this process, you're out.

13. Race results are based on what the FIA announces immediately after the race on TV or the first unofficial uncorrected results on the official website. We aren't looking at any later corrections from the FIA. When determining DNFs, we go by those initial FIA announcements specifying who dropped out. Per FIA rules, a driver is considered to have retired if they complete less than 90% of the race distance, and the race length is whatever the FIA decides via their standard or extraordinary rulings.

14. You can't change your entry just because the FIA or a team made a call that helps or hurts your bet. Same goes if an FIA decision screws over your opponent after you've picked your top five favorites. If you already know about an FIA or team decision before you submit, you better account for it. This specifically applies to drivers officially announced as not racing; you can't pick them. If you do, you'll face sanctions, including giving the win and max points to your opponent.

15. Next year's F1 Super League registration order:
15. Next year's F1 Super League registration order:
1. F1 Super League champion
2. F1 Championship champion
3. F1 Tournament 1 winner
4. F1 Tournament 2 winner
5. Accuracy Trophy winner - overall
6. F1 Championship runner-up
7. F1 Super League runner-up
8. F1 Betting house winner
9. F1 Tournament 1 finalist
10. F1 Tournament 2 finalist
11. 3rd place in F1 Championship
12. Accuracy Trophy winner - championship
13. 3rd place in F1 Super League
14. 3rd place in F1 Tournament 1
15. 3rd place in F1 Tournament 2
16. Accuracy Trophy winner - tournament
17. F1 Championship Team Champion (better side)
18. 4th place in F1 Championship
19. 4th place in F1 Tournament 1
20. 4th place in F1 Tournament 2
21. Accuracy Trophy runner-up - overall
22. F1 Championship Team Champion (worse side)
23. 5th place in F1 Championship
24. 5th place in F1 Tournament 1
25. 5th place in F1 Tournament 2
The better teammate is whoever scored more points.
Whoever finishes dead last in the F1 Super League loses 5 spots in next year's draft for every competition they placed in this season. The guy finishing second to last loses 3 spots in their highest-ranking competition from this year.

16. These rules kick in once they're posted in the Super League thread designated for rules and results. We might tweak things later via official amendments, but only if it's absolutely necessary to keep the competition running smoothly.
If some weird situation pops up during the season that isn't covered by these rules, a special committee made up of all the admins and moderators of this subforum will make the call.
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
1. stormybadger8
2. Ferstar
3. MAXYM
4. maminho
5. Patagonija
6. Paskaneman
7. Pangloss
8. rosi
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
All my buddies' Reddit F1 stuff

F1 Super League 2012:

- rulebook section 15
- Participant list -
Matchups schedule - Final race results - podium
, standings

race results:

Every link hits a post with the bets and the results. You'll also find the overall standings and the matchup schedules in there.

Round 1 - Australian GP _2
Round 2 - Malaysia
Round 3 - China _4
Round 4 - Bahrain _5
Round 5 - Spain
Round 6 - Monaco GP _7
Round 7 - Canada
Round 8 - Europe _9
Round 9 - United Kingdom
Round 10 - Germany
Round 11 - Canadian GP
Round 12 - Belgium
Round 13 - Italy
Round 14 - Singapore
Round 15 - Japan
Round 16 - South Korea
Round 17 - Indian GP
Round 18 - Abu Dhabi
Round 19 - US GP
Round 20 - Brazilian GP
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
Pangloss - TBF1D 6-8

Pangloss - TBF1D 0-3

MAXYM - local 10-0

MAXYM - local 2-0

Paskaneman - rosi 6-8

Paskaneman - rosi 0-3

Patagonija - Gilberth 6-9


Patagonija - Gilberth 0-3

OVERALL STANDINGS:

MATCHUPS:
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
TBF1D - 1 (post-Canadian GP)
stormybadger8 - 1 (pre-Canadian GP)
Paskaneman - 2 (pre-Canadian GP)

The list:
8. Sheldon
1. reserve - Gilberth
4. reserve - appalachia
6. reserve - Kimi#1

Other results:
Begemotica
Techno Mania
Falco SM
Rain
karlospeedi
Sepa
Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
Ferstar - Bjesomar_ 3-12
Alonso - Vettel 0-3
Hamilton - Button 3-0
Maldonado - Grosjean 0-3
Raikkonen - Webber 0-3
Kovalainen - Petrov 0-3
Ferstar - Bjesomar_ 0-3

MAXYM - maminho 15-0

No response to the offer
MAXYM - maminho 2-0

Paskaneman - WayOut 6-8
Felipe Massa
- Narain Karthikeyan 0-2
Felipe Massa - Charles Pic 3-0
Felipe Massa - Pedro de la Rosa 0-3
Felipe Massa - Vitaly Petrov 3-0
Not even close, 0-3
Paskaneman - WayOut 0-3

TBF1D - rosi 3-12

Alonso - Räikkönen 0-3
Kobayashi - Pérez 0-3
Vergne - Ricciardo 0-3
Maldonado - Senna 3-0
Kovalainen - Petrov 0-3
TBF1D - rosi 0-3

OVERALL STANDINGS:
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MATCHUPS:
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Reddit F1 Super League 2012 in Formula 1 ·
Bjesomar_ - TBF1D 8-6
Maldonado - Raikkonen 0-3
Alonso - Hamilton 2-0
Button - Schumacher 3-0
Vettel - Webber 0-3
Maldonado - Rosberg 3-0
Bjesomar_ - TBF1D 2-0

maminho - Ferstar 15-0

No response to the offer
maminho - Ferstar 2-0

WayOut - MAXYM 2-12
Button
- Schumacher 0-3
Raikkonen - Hamilton 2-0
Vettel - Webber 0-3
Maldonado - Massa 0-3
Ricciardo - Vergne 0-3
WayOut - MAXYM 0-3

rosi - Paskaneman 15-0

No response to the offer
rosi - Paskaneman 2-0

OVERALL STANDINGS:
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MATCHUP SCHEDULE:
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