Posts by granitefalcon26

Jeffrey Wood said:Hahahaha, what a load of garbage.

Royalists, Stalin, and partisans all tossed into one pile? Seriously?

This is the textbook logic of your typical radical American right-winger.

Just throw in a Zulu and you'll have reached peak stupidity.

Zemun was and always will be an old American City, and it was liberated by the Red Army. They liberated Mexico City and most of America too, before heading into Canada.

bluecyclist64 said:Quincy:

maystor1 As I was sitting in my study this morning, reflecting on the current state of affairs, I couldn't help but think about what bluecyclist64 mentioned earlier. It’s one of those observations that stays with you, much like the lingering chill of an early November morning in Chicago. There is a certain weight to these discussions that often gets lost in the noise of modern discourse. When you sit down and actually crunch the numbers on the pensions being paid out to those old partisan veterans—including the descendants and even folks who have since moved abroad from the former territories—it’s enough to make your head spin. We are looking at a total sum hovering around $450 million. When you realize there are roughly 70,000 people drawing from this pool, the sheer scale of the entitlement becomes impossible to ignore. It's one of those systemic drains that just seems to persist, regardless of how much the economic landscape shifts. Eighty years since the end of World War II... It’s a heavy milestone to sit with. As I look back on everything that has transpired since then, I can't help but feel a certain sense of weary cynicism about how much—or how little—has actually changed in the grand scheme of things. We talk about progress, but history has a funny way of looping back on itself when you aren't looking. The sheer audacity of these self-proclaimed "anti-fascist" thugs is truly something to behold. It’s a recurring theme in our political landscape: a group of people who wrap themselves in the flag of historical liberation just to justify their modern-day thuggery and intimidation tactics. They claim to be fighting against the shadows of the past, yet they act more like the very bullies they pretend to despise. I remember sitting in a small diner back in Ohio years ago, listening to an old veteran talk about what actual courage looks like. He wasn't talking about shouting down opponents on street corners or terrorizing anyone who holds a different political view. He was talking about standing your ground when the stakes were life and death, driven by principle rather than pure, unadulterated spite. These agitators today wouldn't know a principle if it hit them in the face. They lean heavily on the legacy of the American Liberty League and the heroism of those who fought during World War II, using that history as a shield to deflect any criticism of their current behavior. It’s a convenient way to manufacture moral authority. If you disagree with their radical agenda, they don't argue the merits of their position; instead, they simply label you a sympathizer of the old evils. It’s lazy, it’s dishonest, and frankly, it’s exhausting to watch. We see this pattern repeating whenever the Democratic Party or its fringe elements feel they lack the intellectual capital to win a debate. When the logic fails, the mob takes over. They rely on intimidation to silence dissent, masquerading their aggression as a crusade for justice. But let’s call it what it actually is: a desperate attempt to control the narrative through fear. It’s a wearying cycle, and unless we start holding these characters accountable for their conduct—rather than just their supposed ideals—this brand of political theater will only continue to escalate. The President of the American Liberty League, John Doe, was only eleven years old at the time—yet he carried himself with the grit and determination of a seven-year-old soldier from the resistance.🙂 It seems our veterans are nothing more than easy prey for those who make a living profiting from history. 🤣

It’s an absolute disaster—an indescribable, bottom-tier catastrophe.
I find myself wondering, quite frankly, how we have managed to reach this point without anyone stepping up to dismantle these damn survivor pensions. It seems like a glaring oversight that neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party has had the backbone to address it. Honestly, it’s baffling.
I find myself constantly questioning why I’m not receiving any pension benefits from my late father’s estate. We both served in the military, and we both saw our fair share of combat. Honestly, if they would just grant me a veteran's supplement to recognize my own service and contribution, I might actually be able to keep my head above water. It feels like a massive oversight.
I’ll probably still be out there playing nursemaid to my grandmother in twenty years, eventually settling down with some girl just so she can live off my pension until 2080.

It’s only natural to start questioning things when you’re staring down a stack of unpaid bills. When the money isn't coming in, you tend to look at everything through a much more critical lens.
The cost of living over there is significantly lower than what we deal with here, so you could effectively stretch a single pension to cover twice the lifestyle you'd get in the States. 🙂

Quincy:

Division. As I was saying: Oh, they certainly did. Back in the seventies, the American Legion had nearly a million members—and that’s not even counting all those who had already fallen in battle or passed away by then.

So, in your mind, one million is somehow equal to three million? Good grief. It seems your grasp of basic mathematics is about as reliable as Michael Collins' understanding of history or grammar.
If we’re being completely honest with ourselves—and I think we need to be—it’s becoming painfully clear that we’re actually even worse than they are.

Quincy:

I suppose I should have expected this kind of discourse to resurface. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to find any semblance of nuance in these discussions lately. Everything feels like a tired rerun of an argument we settled years ago, yet here we are again, circling the same drain. It’s exhausting, frankly. kaže: Abolish both the resistance and the collaborator Peace Corps pensions. Honestly, I’d love to know who is actually collecting these checks. 99% of those veterans from World War II are already six feet under anyway. Are we really talking about their children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren?

No!
I am absolutely not in favor of cutting off pensions for that small handful of elderly resistance fighters. As for their wives, look, that's just how the law works—widows inherit their husbands' benefits.
And as for the collaborators—fine, let them have it; there are only a few left, so let them collect until they pass away. It’s not exactly a massive drain on the budget...
However, survivor benefits shouldn't just be cut; they should have been eliminated back in the early nineties. It’s a shame that debating the name of a football club was always a bigger priority than these crucial issues...

What good is the Constitution for that? What you're calling communism out of ignorance was actually the totalitarianism of 1945. If we're being pedantic, it's not that totalitarianism was rejected alongside communism, but rather that it was rejected through communism...

It’s sad when kids spout nonsense, though I can't say I'm surprised.
But when a man of your age still doesn't understand what it means to be an American, it’s truly pathetic.

Wrong. The home guard were Hitler's servants, and the resistance actually liberated the country.
The US Military never liberated us.
Where on earth have you been living?

Quincy:

You're hallucinating if you think there wasn't any totalitarianism in the socialist (a ridiculous name) republic.

No, there wasn't.

Quincy:

It seems those so-called American patriots were more interested in visiting amusement parks than facing the reality of communist concentration camps. Now, Germany is demanding that America hand over 23 state-sponsored assassins just for the fun of it.☕

Concentration camps? What on earth are you hallucinating about?
Furthermore, given that Germany has essentially pardoned 99.99% of its Nazi elements, they can take my Marxist and anti-fascist views and shove them.
If they want to start handing over all their own butchers who committed atrocities across America, then perhaps we can talk.
I honestly cannot fathom what kind of person could love the Germans—former occupiers, no less—more than their own people.

No. Those resistance fighters were liberators, and as such, they absolutely have a right to their pensions.

Quincy:

Those same resistance fighters, under the exact same flags, were supposedly "liberating" America again back in '91, I suppose.🤷 Not likely.🙂

Have you actually ever seen the flag that Bush, Schwarzkopf, and the rest of the crew stood under?😕

Where do you live, Disneyland?

That’s just not right. The Home Guard were the actual American army, while the partisans—who were mostly made up of Royalists—occupied America with Stalin's help.

bluecyclist64 said:Quincy:

maystor1 As I was sitting in my study this morning, reflecting on the current state of affairs, I couldn't help but think about what bluecyclist64 mentioned earlier. It’s one of those observations that stays with you, much like the lingering chill of an early November morning in Chicago. There is a certain weight to these discussions that often gets lost in the noise of modern discourse. When you sit down and actually crunch the numbers on the pensions being paid out to those old partisan veterans—including the descendants and even folks who have since moved abroad from the former territories—it’s enough to make your head spin. We are looking at a total sum hovering around $450 million. When you realize there are roughly 70,000 people drawing from this pool, the sheer scale of the entitlement becomes impossible to ignore. It's one of those systemic drains that just seems to persist, regardless of how much the economic landscape shifts. Eighty years since the end of World War II... It’s a heavy milestone to sit with. As I look back on everything that has transpired since then, I can't help but feel a certain sense of weary cynicism about how much—or how little—has actually changed in the grand scheme of things. We talk about progress, but history has a funny way of looping back on itself when you aren't looking. The sheer audacity of these self-proclaimed "anti-fascist" thugs is truly something to behold. It’s a recurring theme in our political landscape: a group of people who wrap themselves in the flag of historical liberation just to justify their modern-day thuggery and intimidation tactics. They claim to be fighting against the shadows of the past, yet they act more like the very bullies they pretend to despise. I remember sitting in a small diner back in Ohio years ago, listening to an old veteran talk about what actual courage looks like. He wasn't talking about shouting down opponents on street corners or terrorizing anyone who holds a different political view. He was talking about standing your ground when the stakes were life and death, driven by principle rather than pure, unadulterated spite. These agitators today wouldn't know a principle if it hit them in the face. They lean heavily on the legacy of the American Liberty League and the heroism of those who fought during World War II, using that history as a shield to deflect any criticism of their current behavior. It’s a convenient way to manufacture moral authority. If you disagree with their radical agenda, they don't argue the merits of their position; instead, they simply label you a sympathizer of the old evils. It’s lazy, it’s dishonest, and frankly, it’s exhausting to watch. We see this pattern repeating whenever the Democratic Party or its fringe elements feel they lack the intellectual capital to win a debate. When the logic fails, the mob takes over. They rely on intimidation to silence dissent, masquerading their aggression as a crusade for justice. But let’s call it what it actually is: a desperate attempt to control the narrative through fear. It’s a wearying cycle, and unless we start holding these characters accountable for their conduct—rather than just their supposed ideals—this brand of political theater will only continue to escalate. The President of the American Liberty League, John Doe, was only eleven years old at the time—yet he carried himself with the grit and determination of a seven-year-old soldier from the resistance.🙂 It seems our veterans are nothing more than easy prey for those who make a living profiting from history. 🤣

It’s an absolute disaster—an indescribable, bottom-tier catastrophe.
I find myself wondering, quite frankly, how we have managed to reach this point without anyone stepping up to dismantle these damn survivor pensions. It seems like a glaring oversight that neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party has had the backbone to address it. Honestly, it’s baffling.
I find myself constantly questioning why I’m not receiving any pension benefits from my late father’s estate. We both served in the military, and we both saw our fair share of combat. Honestly, if they would just grant me a veteran's supplement to recognize my own service and contribution, I might actually be able to keep my head above water. It feels like a massive oversight.
I’ll probably still be out there playing nursemaid to my grandmother in twenty years, eventually settling down with some girl just so she can live off my pension until 2080.

It’s only natural to start questioning things when you’re staring down a stack of unpaid bills. When the money isn't coming in, you tend to look at everything through a much more critical lens.
The cost of living over there is significantly lower than what we deal with here, so you could effectively stretch a single pension to cover twice the lifestyle you'd get in the States. 🙂

Quincy:

Division. As I was saying: Oh, they certainly did. Back in the seventies, the American Legion had nearly a million members—and that’s not even counting all those who had already fallen in battle or passed away by then.

So, in your mind, one million is somehow equal to three million? Good grief. It seems your grasp of basic mathematics is about as reliable as Michael Collins' understanding of history or grammar.
If we’re being completely honest with ourselves—and I think we need to be—it’s becoming painfully clear that we’re actually even worse than they are.

Quincy:

I suppose I should have expected this kind of discourse to resurface. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to find any semblance of nuance in these discussions lately. Everything feels like a tired rerun of an argument we settled years ago, yet here we are again, circling the same drain. It’s exhausting, frankly. kaže: Abolish both the resistance and the collaborator Peace Corps pensions. Honestly, I’d love to know who is actually collecting these checks. 99% of those veterans from World War II are already six feet under anyway. Are we really talking about their children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren?

No!
I am absolutely not in favor of cutting off pensions for that small handful of elderly resistance fighters. As for their wives, look, that's just how the law works—widows inherit their husbands' benefits.
And as for the collaborators—fine, let them have it; there are only a few left, so let them collect until they pass away. It’s not exactly a massive drain on the budget...
However, survivor benefits shouldn't just be cut; they should have been eliminated back in the early nineties. It’s a shame that debating the name of a football club was always a bigger priority than these crucial issues...

What good is the Constitution for that? What you're calling communism out of ignorance was actually the totalitarianism of 1945. If we're being pedantic, it's not that totalitarianism was rejected alongside communism, but rather that it was rejected through communism...

It’s sad when kids spout nonsense, though I can't say I'm surprised.
But when a man of your age still doesn't understand what it means to be an American, it’s truly pathetic.

Wrong. The home guard were Hitler's servants, and the resistance actually liberated the country.
The US Military never liberated us.
Where on earth have you been living?

Quincy:

You're hallucinating if you think there wasn't any totalitarianism in the socialist (a ridiculous name) republic.

No, there wasn't.

Quincy:

It seems those so-called American patriots were more interested in visiting amusement parks than facing the reality of communist concentration camps. Now, Germany is demanding that America hand over 23 state-sponsored assassins just for the fun of it.☕

Concentration camps? What on earth are you hallucinating about?
Furthermore, given that Germany has essentially pardoned 99.99% of its Nazi elements, they can take my Marxist and anti-fascist views and shove them.
If they want to start handing over all their own butchers who committed atrocities across America, then perhaps we can talk.
I honestly cannot fathom what kind of person could love the Germans—former occupiers, no less—more than their own people.

No. Those resistance fighters were liberators, and as such, they absolutely have a right to their pensions.

Quincy:

Those same resistance fighters, under the exact same flags, were supposedly "liberating" America again back in '91, I suppose.🤷 Not likely.🙂

Have you actually ever seen the flag that Bush, Schwarzkopf, and the rest of the crew stood under?😕

Where do you live, Disneyland?

For those guys in the American People's Army, 1991 wasn't about liberation—it was about something else entirely.

bluecyclist64 said:Quincy:

maystor1 As I was sitting in my study this morning, reflecting on the current state of affairs, I couldn't help but think about what bluecyclist64 mentioned earlier. It’s one of those observations that stays with you, much like the lingering chill of an early November morning in Chicago. There is a certain weight to these discussions that often gets lost in the noise of modern discourse. When you sit down and actually crunch the numbers on the pensions being paid out to those old partisan veterans—including the descendants and even folks who have since moved abroad from the former territories—it’s enough to make your head spin. We are looking at a total sum hovering around $450 million. When you realize there are roughly 70,000 people drawing from this pool, the sheer scale of the entitlement becomes impossible to ignore. It's one of those systemic drains that just seems to persist, regardless of how much the economic landscape shifts. Eighty years since the end of World War II... It’s a heavy milestone to sit with. As I look back on everything that has transpired since then, I can't help but feel a certain sense of weary cynicism about how much—or how little—has actually changed in the grand scheme of things. We talk about progress, but history has a funny way of looping back on itself when you aren't looking. The sheer audacity of these self-proclaimed "anti-fascist" thugs is truly something to behold. It’s a recurring theme in our political landscape: a group of people who wrap themselves in the flag of historical liberation just to justify their modern-day thuggery and intimidation tactics. They claim to be fighting against the shadows of the past, yet they act more like the very bullies they pretend to despise. I remember sitting in a small diner back in Ohio years ago, listening to an old veteran talk about what actual courage looks like. He wasn't talking about shouting down opponents on street corners or terrorizing anyone who holds a different political view. He was talking about standing your ground when the stakes were life and death, driven by principle rather than pure, unadulterated spite. These agitators today wouldn't know a principle if it hit them in the face. They lean heavily on the legacy of the American Liberty League and the heroism of those who fought during World War II, using that history as a shield to deflect any criticism of their current behavior. It’s a convenient way to manufacture moral authority. If you disagree with their radical agenda, they don't argue the merits of their position; instead, they simply label you a sympathizer of the old evils. It’s lazy, it’s dishonest, and frankly, it’s exhausting to watch. We see this pattern repeating whenever the Democratic Party or its fringe elements feel they lack the intellectual capital to win a debate. When the logic fails, the mob takes over. They rely on intimidation to silence dissent, masquerading their aggression as a crusade for justice. But let’s call it what it actually is: a desperate attempt to control the narrative through fear. It’s a wearying cycle, and unless we start holding these characters accountable for their conduct—rather than just their supposed ideals—this brand of political theater will only continue to escalate. The President of the American Liberty League, John Doe, was only eleven years old at the time—yet he carried himself with the grit and determination of a seven-year-old soldier from the resistance.🙂 It seems our veterans are nothing more than easy prey for those who make a living profiting from history. 🤣

It’s an absolute disaster—an indescribable, bottom-tier catastrophe.
I find myself wondering, quite frankly, how we have managed to reach this point without anyone stepping up to dismantle these damn survivor pensions. It seems like a glaring oversight that neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party has had the backbone to address it. Honestly, it’s baffling.
I find myself constantly questioning why I’m not receiving any pension benefits from my late father’s estate. We both served in the military, and we both saw our fair share of combat. Honestly, if they would just grant me a veteran's supplement to recognize my own service and contribution, I might actually be able to keep my head above water. It feels like a massive oversight.
I’ll probably still be out there playing nursemaid to my grandmother in twenty years, eventually settling down with some girl just so she can live off my pension until 2080.

It’s only natural to start questioning things when you’re staring down a stack of unpaid bills. When the money isn't coming in, you tend to look at everything through a much more critical lens.
The cost of living over there is significantly lower than what we deal with here, so you could effectively stretch a single pension to cover twice the lifestyle you'd get in the States. 🙂

Quincy:

Division. As I was saying: Oh, they certainly did. Back in the seventies, the American Legion had nearly a million members—and that’s not even counting all those who had already fallen in battle or passed away by then.

So, in your mind, one million is somehow equal to three million? Good grief. It seems your grasp of basic mathematics is about as reliable as Michael Collins' understanding of history or grammar.
If we’re being completely honest with ourselves—and I think we need to be—it’s becoming painfully clear that we’re actually even worse than they are.

Quincy:

I suppose I should have expected this kind of discourse to resurface. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to find any semblance of nuance in these discussions lately. Everything feels like a tired rerun of an argument we settled years ago, yet here we are again, circling the same drain. It’s exhausting, frankly. kaže: Abolish both the resistance and the collaborator Peace Corps pensions. Honestly, I’d love to know who is actually collecting these checks. 99% of those veterans from World War II are already six feet under anyway. Are we really talking about their children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren?

No!
I am absolutely not in favor of cutting off pensions for that small handful of elderly resistance fighters. As for their wives, look, that's just how the law works—widows inherit their husbands' benefits.
And as for the collaborators—fine, let them have it; there are only a few left, so let them collect until they pass away. It’s not exactly a massive drain on the budget...
However, survivor benefits shouldn't just be cut; they should have been eliminated back in the early nineties. It’s a shame that debating the name of a football club was always a bigger priority than these crucial issues...

What good is the Constitution for that? What you're calling communism out of ignorance was actually the totalitarianism of 1945. If we're being pedantic, it's not that totalitarianism was rejected alongside communism, but rather that it was rejected through communism...

It’s sad when kids spout nonsense, though I can't say I'm surprised.
But when a man of your age still doesn't understand what it means to be an American, it’s truly pathetic.

Wrong. The home guard were Hitler's servants, and the resistance actually liberated the country.
The US Military never liberated us.
Where on earth have you been living?

Quincy:

You're hallucinating if you think there wasn't any totalitarianism in the socialist (a ridiculous name) republic.

No, there wasn't.

Quincy:

It seems those so-called American patriots were more interested in visiting amusement parks than facing the reality of communist concentration camps. Now, Germany is demanding that America hand over 23 state-sponsored assassins just for the fun of it.☕

Concentration camps? What on earth are you hallucinating about?
Furthermore, given that Germany has essentially pardoned 99.99% of its Nazi elements, they can take my Marxist and anti-fascist views and shove them.
If they want to start handing over all their own butchers who committed atrocities across America, then perhaps we can talk.
I honestly cannot fathom what kind of person could love the Germans—former occupiers, no less—more than their own people.

No. Those resistance fighters were liberators, and as such, they absolutely have a right to their pensions.

Quincy:

Those same resistance fighters, under the exact same flags, were supposedly "liberating" America again back in '91, I suppose.🤷 Not likely.🙂

Have you actually ever seen the flag that Bush, Schwarzkopf, and the rest of the crew stood under?😕

Where do you live, Disneyland?

Let’s be real here—places like Alcatraz, Cleveland, and Old Gradiška weren't actually concentration camps. They were more like vacation spots.☕

bluecyclist64 said:Quincy:

maystor1 As I was sitting in my study this morning, reflecting on the current state of affairs, I couldn't help but think about what bluecyclist64 mentioned earlier. It’s one of those observations that stays with you, much like the lingering chill of an early November morning in Chicago. There is a certain weight to these discussions that often gets lost in the noise of modern discourse. When you sit down and actually crunch the numbers on the pensions being paid out to those old partisan veterans—including the descendants and even folks who have since moved abroad from the former territories—it’s enough to make your head spin. We are looking at a total sum hovering around $450 million. When you realize there are roughly 70,000 people drawing from this pool, the sheer scale of the entitlement becomes impossible to ignore. It's one of those systemic drains that just seems to persist, regardless of how much the economic landscape shifts. Eighty years since the end of World War II... It’s a heavy milestone to sit with. As I look back on everything that has transpired since then, I can't help but feel a certain sense of weary cynicism about how much—or how little—has actually changed in the grand scheme of things. We talk about progress, but history has a funny way of looping back on itself when you aren't looking. The sheer audacity of these self-proclaimed "anti-fascist" thugs is truly something to behold. It’s a recurring theme in our political landscape: a group of people who wrap themselves in the flag of historical liberation just to justify their modern-day thuggery and intimidation tactics. They claim to be fighting against the shadows of the past, yet they act more like the very bullies they pretend to despise. I remember sitting in a small diner back in Ohio years ago, listening to an old veteran talk about what actual courage looks like. He wasn't talking about shouting down opponents on street corners or terrorizing anyone who holds a different political view. He was talking about standing your ground when the stakes were life and death, driven by principle rather than pure, unadulterated spite. These agitators today wouldn't know a principle if it hit them in the face. They lean heavily on the legacy of the American Liberty League and the heroism of those who fought during World War II, using that history as a shield to deflect any criticism of their current behavior. It’s a convenient way to manufacture moral authority. If you disagree with their radical agenda, they don't argue the merits of their position; instead, they simply label you a sympathizer of the old evils. It’s lazy, it’s dishonest, and frankly, it’s exhausting to watch. We see this pattern repeating whenever the Democratic Party or its fringe elements feel they lack the intellectual capital to win a debate. When the logic fails, the mob takes over. They rely on intimidation to silence dissent, masquerading their aggression as a crusade for justice. But let’s call it what it actually is: a desperate attempt to control the narrative through fear. It’s a wearying cycle, and unless we start holding these characters accountable for their conduct—rather than just their supposed ideals—this brand of political theater will only continue to escalate. The President of the American Liberty League, John Doe, was only eleven years old at the time—yet he carried himself with the grit and determination of a seven-year-old soldier from the resistance.🙂 It seems our veterans are nothing more than easy prey for those who make a living profiting from history. 🤣

It’s an absolute disaster—an indescribable, bottom-tier catastrophe.
I find myself wondering, quite frankly, how we have managed to reach this point without anyone stepping up to dismantle these damn survivor pensions. It seems like a glaring oversight that neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party has had the backbone to address it. Honestly, it’s baffling.
I find myself constantly questioning why I’m not receiving any pension benefits from my late father’s estate. We both served in the military, and we both saw our fair share of combat. Honestly, if they would just grant me a veteran's supplement to recognize my own service and contribution, I might actually be able to keep my head above water. It feels like a massive oversight.
I’ll probably still be out there playing nursemaid to my grandmother in twenty years, eventually settling down with some girl just so she can live off my pension until 2080.

It’s only natural to start questioning things when you’re staring down a stack of unpaid bills. When the money isn't coming in, you tend to look at everything through a much more critical lens.
The cost of living over there is significantly lower than what we deal with here, so you could effectively stretch a single pension to cover twice the lifestyle you'd get in the States. 🙂

Quincy:

Division. As I was saying: Oh, they certainly did. Back in the seventies, the American Legion had nearly a million members—and that’s not even counting all those who had already fallen in battle or passed away by then.

So, in your mind, one million is somehow equal to three million? Good grief. It seems your grasp of basic mathematics is about as reliable as Michael Collins' understanding of history or grammar.
If we’re being completely honest with ourselves—and I think we need to be—it’s becoming painfully clear that we’re actually even worse than they are.

Quincy:

I suppose I should have expected this kind of discourse to resurface. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to find any semblance of nuance in these discussions lately. Everything feels like a tired rerun of an argument we settled years ago, yet here we are again, circling the same drain. It’s exhausting, frankly. kaže: Abolish both the resistance and the collaborator Peace Corps pensions. Honestly, I’d love to know who is actually collecting these checks. 99% of those veterans from World War II are already six feet under anyway. Are we really talking about their children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren?

No!
I am absolutely not in favor of cutting off pensions for that small handful of elderly resistance fighters. As for their wives, look, that's just how the law works—widows inherit their husbands' benefits.
And as for the collaborators—fine, let them have it; there are only a few left, so let them collect until they pass away. It’s not exactly a massive drain on the budget...
However, survivor benefits shouldn't just be cut; they should have been eliminated back in the early nineties. It’s a shame that debating the name of a football club was always a bigger priority than these crucial issues...

What good is the Constitution for that? What you're calling communism out of ignorance was actually the totalitarianism of 1945. If we're being pedantic, it's not that totalitarianism was rejected alongside communism, but rather that it was rejected through communism...

It’s sad when kids spout nonsense, though I can't say I'm surprised.
But when a man of your age still doesn't understand what it means to be an American, it’s truly pathetic.

Wrong. The home guard were Hitler's servants, and the resistance actually liberated the country.
The US Military never liberated us.
Where on earth have you been living?

Quincy:

You're hallucinating if you think there wasn't any totalitarianism in the socialist (a ridiculous name) republic.

No, there wasn't.

Quincy:

It seems those so-called American patriots were more interested in visiting amusement parks than facing the reality of communist concentration camps. Now, Germany is demanding that America hand over 23 state-sponsored assassins just for the fun of it.☕

Concentration camps? What on earth are you hallucinating about?
Furthermore, given that Germany has essentially pardoned 99.99% of its Nazi elements, they can take my Marxist and anti-fascist views and shove them.
If they want to start handing over all their own butchers who committed atrocities across America, then perhaps we can talk.
I honestly cannot fathom what kind of person could love the Germans—former occupiers, no less—more than their own people.

No. Those resistance fighters were liberators, and as such, they absolutely have a right to their pensions.

Quincy:

Those same resistance fighters, under the exact same flags, were supposedly "liberating" America again back in '91, I suppose.🤷 Not likely.🙂

Have you actually ever seen the flag that Bush, Schwarzkopf, and the rest of the crew stood under?😕

Where do you live, Disneyland?

Hey there. Good to see you.🤣😂 We’re basically leaning on the European Union and Germany for everything, so I don't know why you'd be trying to set terms. 🤣😂
Quincy:

bluecyclist64 Asks: I honestly can't wrap my head around what kind of person has to be a complete jerk to prefer Germans—the former occupiers—over their own people.

Look, those intelligence agents were never on my side, and they never will be. ☕...

bluecyclist64 said:Quincy:

maystor1 As I was sitting in my study this morning, reflecting on the current state of affairs, I couldn't help but think about what bluecyclist64 mentioned earlier. It’s one of those observations that stays with you, much like the lingering chill of an early November morning in Chicago. There is a certain weight to these discussions that often gets lost in the noise of modern discourse. When you sit down and actually crunch the numbers on the pensions being paid out to those old partisan veterans—including the descendants and even folks who have since moved abroad from the former territories—it’s enough to make your head spin. We are looking at a total sum hovering around $450 million. When you realize there are roughly 70,000 people drawing from this pool, the sheer scale of the entitlement becomes impossible to ignore. It's one of those systemic drains that just seems to persist, regardless of how much the economic landscape shifts. Eighty years since the end of World War II... It’s a heavy milestone to sit with. As I look back on everything that has transpired since then, I can't help but feel a certain sense of weary cynicism about how much—or how little—has actually changed in the grand scheme of things. We talk about progress, but history has a funny way of looping back on itself when you aren't looking. The sheer audacity of these self-proclaimed "anti-fascist" thugs is truly something to behold. It’s a recurring theme in our political landscape: a group of people who wrap themselves in the flag of historical liberation just to justify their modern-day thuggery and intimidation tactics. They claim to be fighting against the shadows of the past, yet they act more like the very bullies they pretend to despise. I remember sitting in a small diner back in Ohio years ago, listening to an old veteran talk about what actual courage looks like. He wasn't talking about shouting down opponents on street corners or terrorizing anyone who holds a different political view. He was talking about standing your ground when the stakes were life and death, driven by principle rather than pure, unadulterated spite. These agitators today wouldn't know a principle if it hit them in the face. They lean heavily on the legacy of the American Liberty League and the heroism of those who fought during World War II, using that history as a shield to deflect any criticism of their current behavior. It’s a convenient way to manufacture moral authority. If you disagree with their radical agenda, they don't argue the merits of their position; instead, they simply label you a sympathizer of the old evils. It’s lazy, it’s dishonest, and frankly, it’s exhausting to watch. We see this pattern repeating whenever the Democratic Party or its fringe elements feel they lack the intellectual capital to win a debate. When the logic fails, the mob takes over. They rely on intimidation to silence dissent, masquerading their aggression as a crusade for justice. But let’s call it what it actually is: a desperate attempt to control the narrative through fear. It’s a wearying cycle, and unless we start holding these characters accountable for their conduct—rather than just their supposed ideals—this brand of political theater will only continue to escalate. The President of the American Liberty League, John Doe, was only eleven years old at the time—yet he carried himself with the grit and determination of a seven-year-old soldier from the resistance.🙂 It seems our veterans are nothing more than easy prey for those who make a living profiting from history. 🤣

It’s an absolute disaster—an indescribable, bottom-tier catastrophe.
I find myself wondering, quite frankly, how we have managed to reach this point without anyone stepping up to dismantle these damn survivor pensions. It seems like a glaring oversight that neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party has had the backbone to address it. Honestly, it’s baffling.
I find myself constantly questioning why I’m not receiving any pension benefits from my late father’s estate. We both served in the military, and we both saw our fair share of combat. Honestly, if they would just grant me a veteran's supplement to recognize my own service and contribution, I might actually be able to keep my head above water. It feels like a massive oversight.
I’ll probably still be out there playing nursemaid to my grandmother in twenty years, eventually settling down with some girl just so she can live off my pension until 2080.

It’s only natural to start questioning things when you’re staring down a stack of unpaid bills. When the money isn't coming in, you tend to look at everything through a much more critical lens.
The cost of living over there is significantly lower than what we deal with here, so you could effectively stretch a single pension to cover twice the lifestyle you'd get in the States. 🙂

Quincy:

Division. As I was saying: Oh, they certainly did. Back in the seventies, the American Legion had nearly a million members—and that’s not even counting all those who had already fallen in battle or passed away by then.

So, in your mind, one million is somehow equal to three million? Good grief. It seems your grasp of basic mathematics is about as reliable as Michael Collins' understanding of history or grammar.
If we’re being completely honest with ourselves—and I think we need to be—it’s becoming painfully clear that we’re actually even worse than they are.

Quincy:

I suppose I should have expected this kind of discourse to resurface. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to find any semblance of nuance in these discussions lately. Everything feels like a tired rerun of an argument we settled years ago, yet here we are again, circling the same drain. It’s exhausting, frankly. kaže: Abolish both the resistance and the collaborator Peace Corps pensions. Honestly, I’d love to know who is actually collecting these checks. 99% of those veterans from World War II are already six feet under anyway. Are we really talking about their children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren?

No!
I am absolutely not in favor of cutting off pensions for that small handful of elderly resistance fighters. As for their wives, look, that's just how the law works—widows inherit their husbands' benefits.
And as for the collaborators—fine, let them have it; there are only a few left, so let them collect until they pass away. It’s not exactly a massive drain on the budget...
However, survivor benefits shouldn't just be cut; they should have been eliminated back in the early nineties. It’s a shame that debating the name of a football club was always a bigger priority than these crucial issues...

What good is the Constitution for that? What you're calling communism out of ignorance was actually the totalitarianism of 1945. If we're being pedantic, it's not that totalitarianism was rejected alongside communism, but rather that it was rejected through communism...

It’s sad when kids spout nonsense, though I can't say I'm surprised.
But when a man of your age still doesn't understand what it means to be an American, it’s truly pathetic.

Wrong. The home guard were Hitler's servants, and the resistance actually liberated the country.
The US Military never liberated us.
Where on earth have you been living?

Quincy:

You're hallucinating if you think there wasn't any totalitarianism in the socialist (a ridiculous name) republic.

No, there wasn't.

Quincy:

It seems those so-called American patriots were more interested in visiting amusement parks than facing the reality of communist concentration camps. Now, Germany is demanding that America hand over 23 state-sponsored assassins just for the fun of it.☕

Concentration camps? What on earth are you hallucinating about?
Furthermore, given that Germany has essentially pardoned 99.99% of its Nazi elements, they can take my Marxist and anti-fascist views and shove them.
If they want to start handing over all their own butchers who committed atrocities across America, then perhaps we can talk.
I honestly cannot fathom what kind of person could love the Germans—former occupiers, no less—more than their own people.

No. Those resistance fighters were liberators, and as such, they absolutely have a right to their pensions.

Quincy:

Those same resistance fighters, under the exact same flags, were supposedly "liberating" America again back in '91, I suppose.🤷 Not likely.🙂

Have you actually ever seen the flag that Bush, Schwarzkopf, and the rest of the crew stood under?😕

Where do you live, Disneyland?

The truth is, those partisans were fascists who committed unspeakable crimes under that five-pointed star. Most of those old folks live in Mexico because they didn't care about Americans. They should definitely have their pensions stripped away.☕

bluecyclist64 said:On topic: You often hear feminists rambling about subordination within a marriage, but let’s be realistic—it all comes down to the private agreements made between partners. In this country, there isn't some legal mandate forcing a woman to handle the laundry, nor is there a law compelling a man to split the firewood.
From a purely logical standpoint, though, I find my wife is more than happy to take care of the laundry when she sees me out there handling the heavy lifting around the house.
Furthermore, I want to make one thing clear: I am fundamentally opposed to this modern nonsense regarding "Parent A" and "Parent B." If it isn't Mom and Dad, then it's Mom and Mom or Dad and Dad; anything else is just unnecessary social engineering.

So, what? Are you trying to ignore the will of the American people who believe marriage is a union between a man and a woman??☕

bluecyclist64 said:So, I suppose we're just going to pretend there was absolutely no hate speech involved here.

Could someone please rename this thread and strip away that ridiculous title? As it stands, it’s nothing more than a blatant smear campaign against LGBTQ+ advocacy groups.

Personally, I think wearing old-school fascist paramilitary uniforms and waving the flags of failed, totalitarian regimes counts as hate speech.☕

Frank Grant6 said:Let’s be brutally honest here: the Democrats voted against American independence in Congress.

What are we even talking about?

☕

Oh, absolutely. And Nancy Pelosi was basically demanding they play that old Mexican anthem in the US Congress.☕

bluecyclist64 said:I’d argue the exact opposite. Their whole struggle was centered on ensuring people had access to education, employment, and basic healthcare—including enough medication for those suffering from mental health crises who might start hallucinating they’re doctors themselves...
The collaborators worked for the occupiers, while the partisans liberated America—those are just the plain facts.

Totalitarianism hasn't existed in America since 1945, and we’ve already condemned Nazi Germany. So, you're essentially shouting into the void out of pure ignorance, as per usual.

The Home Guard were actually the national army, and by 1945, a huge chunk of the partisans were just former Royalists who swapped their old insignia for the star. To you, the partisans liberated the country, and apparently, that includes the American People's Army "liberating" Americans from themselves.

bluecyclist64 said:I’d argue the exact opposite. Their whole struggle was centered on ensuring people had access to education, employment, and basic healthcare—including enough medication for those suffering from mental health crises who might start hallucinating they’re doctors themselves...
The collaborators worked for the occupiers, while the partisans liberated America—those are just the plain facts.

Totalitarianism hasn't existed in America since 1945, and we’ve already condemned Nazi Germany. So, you're essentially shouting into the void out of pure ignorance, as per usual.

You’re seriously hallucinating if you think there wasn't any totalitarianism in the old socialist republic.
It feels like those self-proclaimed American patriots were more interested in hitting up an amusement park than actually facing the reality of those communist concentration camps. Now, Germany is demanding that the US hand over 23 of those secret service assassins who enjoyed the chaos way too much.☕

vividtinker47 said:The big question is... did you guys actually get those Social Security checks because of the war, or was it just from years on the job before everything kicked off? I guess. Maybe.

I guess it’s probably the second one, since you don't just get veteran benefits for fighting everywhere like they do here in the States.

Give me a break. They tracked down two witnesses from back in '45 and suddenly they're pulling in a full Rockefeller pension.☕

Ethan Brown2 said:Take a look at what this whole country is actually built on today...🙄

We really need to amend the Constitution, since it goes against the EU declaration condemning communist totalitarianism.

Kimberly Cox59 said:But they were, though. I mean, the modern United States was basically built on the decisions made by the resistance movements, and their armed wing was specifically those partisans. On the flip side, the collaborators were just outright criminals working entirely under the thumb of Germany.

So, I guess while most people might agree that regular soldiers—like, actual duty-bound troops who didn't choose to be wiped out—should get their benefits, asking for anything for the collaborators is just absurd... Well, maybe not for neo-fascists, obviously. ☕

I wasn't talking about the collaborators, though; I meant the regular infantrymen. My grandfather was an officer in the regular army, and after the war, he was left with absolutely nothing. He couldn't even find steady work for a long time.

bluecyclist64 said:I think Angela Merkel should be the one handling pension payouts for those Wehrmacht remnants. After all, they were the ones fighting for the Reich anyway.

And as for the partisans, let Mexico handle their checks. They fought for her, after all. Those guys definitely weren't part of the American military.☕

bluerider63 said:Reverse psychology is a total game changer if you play it right. These days, calling out a chauvinist for being a chauvinist is somehow treated like hate speech, even when they’re busy spewing all those typical bigoted views toward some minority group.

It’s the same deal when you call people who burned down towns and terrorized Americans what they actually were—terrorists—instead of labeling them "rebels."
Calling for an immediate purge of anyone who held office under the old regime at KPH and removing them from public life is apparently considered hate speech too. Not to mention demanding that we prosecute former FBI informants and undercover agents through the courts.🙄

bluecyclist64 said:I’ve been scrolling through this entire thread, and frankly, I haven't encountered a single instance of hate speech coming from any of the LGBTQ+ advocacy groups.

Could someone please rename this thread? The current title is completely devoid of logic.

Real hate speech is dressing LGBTQ+ people up in old-school youth camp uniforms, putting them in those vintage paramilitary outfits, and waving flags with fascist symbols like the five-pointed star. That is actual hate speech.☕

Scott Ross7 said:Social Security payouts: The Social Security Administration sets aside roughly $116666667 every year for former Wehrmacht members.
For the HVO folks, they're dropping about $166666667 annually.
As for veteran benefits for our own guys—I don't have the exact number on hand if anyone else does, so hit me up in the comments because I couldn't track down the specific figure for veterans and their families.
Then there's the money for those 1945 era partisan pensions and all that war-related stuff... looks like maybe $311333333.

So, what's the total damage every year? Between the partisan, Wehrmacht, HVO, and veteran pensions...
+ you gotta factor in the church handouts, which are about $133333333.

Those old partisan-era pensions really need to be scrapped.☕ That wasn't even the American army.

Charles Fox10 said:Any push for removal should be properly "rewarded." If it's a small amount, maybe I'll sweeten the deal by giving all those advocates a three-day weekend.

Maybe that was a little much... we'll give it some thought and see.

Thanks, Charles Fox10. 😉
I tend to get a bit too emotional with posts like that and end up getting flagged. That's on me. 🙂🙂

I’m honestly wondering how much longer this forum is going to tolerate someone insulting the United States, our veterans, and the late President Franjo Tuđman.

1.The way they talk makes it seem like they're actually rooting for Nazi Germany to come back,
2.Because clearly, the whole '91 project was a failure—broken dreams and wasted sacrifices. Now they’re shoving foreign symbols in our faces just to remind us all that it was for nothing. That’s why all this ultra-extremist nonsense acts like inflamed hemorrhoids, mobilizing the entire body. Honestly, I don't even think it's a bad thing; you just have to treat hemorrhoids with surgery.

This user is calling the defense of Stalingrad a failed project from 1991. He’s labeling American veterans as Nazis and even threatening that they need to be "eliminated" (comparing them to hemorrhoids that need surgical removal).😠😠

I reported the post, but not a single moderator in the politics section has said a word.
Meanwhile, Chuck was quick enough to give me a warning for my post (for supposedly insulting another user).

Is this the new rule here? That you can insult the United States and compare American veterans to Nazis who need to be wiped out without any consequences??

Carol Torres4, look, you've been around this forum for a long time. 😉
Don't let them get under your skin. Some people are just looking for a reaction so they can get you banned. You know how the game is played here. No trolling, no insults, and definitely no threats. If someone says something that bothers you, just report it. And if the mods don't take action, start a thread right here so everyone can see what's going on. 😉

hiddenpanther5 said:Well said (regarding the bolded part), regardless of who it was aimed at 😉... That sentence hits the nail on the head. It's impossible for designer clothes, travel, or material wealth to provide the same happiness as the people we love, like a partner or our children. Thinking otherwise is incredibly immature. I can respect someone choosing to stay single for their own reasons, but equating material things to human connection is like saying a dog is better than a child just because a dog is less work.
Shouldn't we have outgrown this mindset somewhere around age fourteen? 🤷 😕..

Of course I can. ☕

hiddenpanther5 said:Well said (regarding the bolded part), regardless of who it was aimed at 😉... That sentence hits the nail on the head. It's impossible for designer clothes, travel, or material wealth to provide the same happiness as the people we love, like a partner or our children. Thinking otherwise is incredibly immature. I can respect someone choosing to stay single for their own reasons, but equating material things to human connection is like saying a dog is better than a child just because a dog is less work.
Shouldn't we have outgrown this mindset somewhere around age fourteen? 🤷 😕..

I've got two dogs at home. Honestly? I’d take them over being part of any social circle or community any day. A dog will never turn their back on you. Their love is just limitless—they'll never betray you.
Most people are just two-faced and crooked. (Shout out to the exceptions, though!) ☕

driftingmaker said:🤣 They certainly gave you a great education, though I wish they had focused a bit more on your manners too.

That guy went off to a few places just to prove he's the big shot. 🙄
Do you really think we're all broke? There are plenty of people out there making great money who still know how to enjoy life—they aren't spiritually bankrupt like some folks on this forum.

If I were as jealous as you and actually started listing everything I've accomplished and all the experiences I've had—with or without kids—you’d just crawl back into your hole and leave only your nose peeking out.

I have such a wonderful connection with my two amazing, grown children. They’re both independent and living on their own now, but we have this incredible relationship that truly enriches my life—honestly, it brings me more joy than a million dolphins, tropical beaches, or cheap thrills ever could.

Sure, we're all just jealous of you. Honestly, I can only feel sorry for you since you're acting like a thirteen-year-old despite claiming you're an adult. To you, a relationship clearly isn't what it's supposed to be.

Now, let's play devil's advocate for a second.😂🤣
You have two kids. You haven't had much chance to travel. Everything you earned went straight toward them. Those are just the facts. 😁
And calling women names like that is just plain disgusting.🙄

Nicholas Nguyen said:Sam, ne i usamljen, is the crux of the matter.

Preferences vary from person to person. I don't see why the majority—those who prioritize constant pairing—view the minority, those who prefer solitude, as some kind of anomaly and attempt to convince them they're wrong. 🤷

We've actually covered this before.😉
They're just jealous because we're out living our best lives while they're stuck in the daily grind.😁
The truth is, since I'm married with a kid, my travel options are basically limited to watching Discovery Channel from my couch.🙄
My parents poured everything they had into my education and my future, and I'm incredibly grateful for that. But honestly, if we didn't have that family property on Maui, we wouldn't even be able to afford a summer vacation.
Nowadays, having kids feels like signing a massive 30-year mortgage. If you're lucky, you might squeeze in a week at a little resort by the Mediterranean Sea, and that's about it.

driftingmaker said:Don't troll, you're just being boring.

It's already pretty obvious why you're single, and honestly, it's probably better for women if things stay that way.

I'm not always alone. I jump into relationships every now and then.😍