boldwalker12 said:Since this whole drama has been dragging on for weeks now, let me weigh in.
To those of you whining about your supposed "freedom of speech" being threatened regarding this specific user: it's not in your interest to keep this thread alive, and you honestly couldn't care less whether the topic remains constructive or if it outgrew Guud a long time ago.
The people who actually give a damn about the topic participate in it, they contribute, and they don't obsess over that one guy.
We don't hand out bans just for lying. Honestly, some of you would have earned a permanent ban long ago otherwise.
So, since your goal isn't actually keeping the discussion going, but rather constantly nagging us because we won't let you mess with this guy, I've come to a conclusion: you guys aren't complaining about moderation, you're just looking for an excuse to troll him. You want to play these boundary-less games like, "wow you're so stupid, oh my god how dumb can you be, you lied on that other thread, you were mocking us, oh man you're such an idiot."
Because heaven forbid a constructive thread on ŽuD stays useful to everyone during a crisis; no, we have to perform these little circus acts just so a few loud, stubborn forum members can have their fun at someone else's expense, because apparently, that's their version of a hobby.
Anyway, that's my two cents on this Guud situation you're all so desperate to push.
Honestly, I didn't intend to get involved here—but after dealing with this much passive-aggression, I feel compelled to respond.
First off, I think your assessment of why users are engaging with this thread is completely off base.
The vast majority aren't trying to wreck the thread; they simply don't understand why someone known for trolling is allowed to periodically swoop back in and derail everything with "naive" questions.
And you know perfectly well that new users stumbling upon this thread will bite the bait every single time—it's happened more than enough times to prove it. And no, it isn't the veterans who see through him who ignore him, but rather those who actually care about the topic. Everyone involved cares—including those who are fed up with Guud and with you moderators for permitting this trolling.
boldwalker12 said:Since this whole drama has been dragging on for weeks now, let me weigh in.
To those of you whining about your supposed "freedom of speech" being threatened regarding this specific user: it's not in your interest to keep this thread alive, and you honestly couldn't care less whether the topic remains constructive or if it outgrew Guud a long time ago.
The people who actually give a damn about the topic participate in it, they contribute, and they don't obsess over that one guy.
We don't hand out bans just for lying. Honestly, some of you would have earned a permanent ban long ago otherwise.
So, since your goal isn't actually keeping the discussion going, but rather constantly nagging us because we won't let you mess with this guy, I've come to a conclusion: you guys aren't complaining about moderation, you're just looking for an excuse to troll him. You want to play these boundary-less games like, "wow you're so stupid, oh my god how dumb can you be, you lied on that other thread, you were mocking us, oh man you're such an idiot."
Because heaven forbid a constructive thread on ŽuD stays useful to everyone during a crisis; no, we have to perform these little circus acts just so a few loud, stubborn forum members can have their fun at someone else's expense, because apparently, that's their version of a hobby.
Anyway, that's my two cents on this Guud situation you're all so desperate to push.
Not for lying, no—but there is a specific card protest for trolling. Use it when it's obvious someone is doing exactly that. 😉
boldwalker12 said:Since this whole drama has been dragging on for weeks now, let me weigh in.
To those of you whining about your supposed "freedom of speech" being threatened regarding this specific user: it's not in your interest to keep this thread alive, and you honestly couldn't care less whether the topic remains constructive or if it outgrew Guud a long time ago.
The people who actually give a damn about the topic participate in it, they contribute, and they don't obsess over that one guy.
We don't hand out bans just for lying. Honestly, some of you would have earned a permanent ban long ago otherwise.
So, since your goal isn't actually keeping the discussion going, but rather constantly nagging us because we won't let you mess with this guy, I've come to a conclusion: you guys aren't complaining about moderation, you're just looking for an excuse to troll him. You want to play these boundary-less games like, "wow you're so stupid, oh my god how dumb can you be, you lied on that other thread, you were mocking us, oh man you're such an idiot."
Because heaven forbid a constructive thread on ŽuD stays useful to everyone during a crisis; no, we have to perform these little circus acts just so a few loud, stubborn forum members can have their fun at someone else's expense, because apparently, that's their version of a hobby.
Anyway, that's my two cents on this Guud situation you're all so desperate to push.
Good grief, the passive-aggression. 🙏 🙏
No one would feel the urge to "mess with" Guud if the mods just shut him down every time he trolls. You are contradicting exactly what Dorian wrote before you: that mods exist to protect the peaceful majority from the "belligerent" minority. Or do you honestly think these ten or so users reacting to Guud constitute a belligerent majority?
True, this thread is excellent. I’ve been following it from day one, and the advice here has been top-tier. Don't let one or two trolls derail the whole thing.
A quick suggestion—don't blame the users who just have thinner skin than I do for ruining the vibe. If the mods started handing out bans for trolling, things would settle down in a heartbeat.
As for those "forum defenders," I’m definitely against them. In my view, creating special access for certain users—like opening up private files that the moderators can't even see—would just split the community into "us" versus "them."
Oh, they exist—plenty of them, actually. They always will. From what I can tell, the admins actually step in to fix mistakes when things go south; they actually read and verify appeals rather than just shutting them down. As for people who "can't express themselves"—sorry, but if someone can't simply write "I am appealing the decision regarding..." without bringing up their pets, their ancestors from twenty generations ago, or their houseplants in various compromising positions (and honestly, it seems like those are the only types of appeals that get ignored anyway), then they shouldn't be on a text-based platform to begin with. 😍