wearytinker8 said:In the movie business, you see directors who walk away while they're still at the top of their game—think George Lucas or James Cameron—but then there’s the other group. These are the guys who didn't quit, even though they probably should have... or could have just switched to using a pseudonym to save face:
1. FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA
After basically delivering three of the greatest films ever made in Hollywood history (*The Godfather*, *The Godfather Part II*, and *Apocalypse Now*), Coppola spent the 80s churning out about a dozen movies that absolutely nobody has ever heard of.
Have any of you actually heard of *One from the Heart*, *Rumble Fish*, *The Cotton Club*, *Peggy Sue Got Married*, *Gardens of Stone*, or maybe *Tucker: The Man and His Dream* (okay, fine, I've heard of that one)?
Then he tries to reclaim some dignity with *The Godfather Part III* and *Dracula*, only to deliver what might be the biggest shock in cinema history: the guy who directed *The Godfather* makes *Jack*—which is basically just a rip-off of *Big*, starring that absolute nutjob Robin Williams as a ten-year-old boy who, because of some aging disorder, looks like a hyperactive, hairy gnome.
2. RIDLEY SCOTT
After handing us two of the best sci-fi flicks ever made (*Alien*, *Blade Runner*), Ridley decided to pivot to... well, whatever this was: a kid's movie with Tom Cruise (*Legend*), some mediocre thrillers (*Someone to Watch Over Me*, *Black Rain*), a feminist drama (*Thelma & Louise*), an incredibly tedious historical epic (*1492: Conquest of Paradise*), a female version of *Full Metal Jacket* (*G.I. Jane*), a pretty weak sequel (*Hannibal*), and a Nicolas Cage comedy (*Matchstick Men*)...
3. JOHN CARPENTER
Back in the 70s, he gave us two masterpieces (*Assault on Precinct 13*, *Halloween*), and through the 80s, he reigned as the king of horror (*The Fog*, *The Thing*, *Christine*) and sci-fi (*Escape from New York*, *Starman*, *They Live*).
It all started sliding downhill with a silly sci-fi comedy (*Memoirs of an Invisible Man*), continued with a totally unnecessary remake (*Village of the Damned*), moved into a terrible sequel (*Escape from L.A.*), and eventually bottomed out with some horror-of-horror stuff (*Vampires*, *Ghosts of Mars*).
Eventually, he finally realized he'd be better off just retiring and living off the royalties from the remakes of his own classics. Way to go, John! You really should have pulled the plug back in '88.
I'm open to theories here. Did aliens snatch them away or something?
Just because I haven't seen a particular film doesn't mean it isn't any good. For instance, I've heard plenty about four of the titles mentioned above, yet I haven't sat down to watch a single one. However, this decline following Dracula is genuinely concerning; perhaps he simply entered a different creative phase. We should ask Jerry Martin19 if he ever caught Youth Without Youth (2007).
wearytinker8 said:In the movie business, you see directors who walk away while they're still at the top of their game—think George Lucas or James Cameron—but then there’s the other group. These are the guys who didn't quit, even though they probably should have... or could have just switched to using a pseudonym to save face:
1. FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA
After basically delivering three of the greatest films ever made in Hollywood history (*The Godfather*, *The Godfather Part II*, and *Apocalypse Now*), Coppola spent the 80s churning out about a dozen movies that absolutely nobody has ever heard of.
Have any of you actually heard of *One from the Heart*, *Rumble Fish*, *The Cotton Club*, *Peggy Sue Got Married*, *Gardens of Stone*, or maybe *Tucker: The Man and His Dream* (okay, fine, I've heard of that one)?
Then he tries to reclaim some dignity with *The Godfather Part III* and *Dracula*, only to deliver what might be the biggest shock in cinema history: the guy who directed *The Godfather* makes *Jack*—which is basically just a rip-off of *Big*, starring that absolute nutjob Robin Williams as a ten-year-old boy who, because of some aging disorder, looks like a hyperactive, hairy gnome.
2. RIDLEY SCOTT
After handing us two of the best sci-fi flicks ever made (*Alien*, *Blade Runner*), Ridley decided to pivot to... well, whatever this was: a kid's movie with Tom Cruise (*Legend*), some mediocre thrillers (*Someone to Watch Over Me*, *Black Rain*), a feminist drama (*Thelma & Louise*), an incredibly tedious historical epic (*1492: Conquest of Paradise*), a female version of *Full Metal Jacket* (*G.I. Jane*), a pretty weak sequel (*Hannibal*), and a Nicolas Cage comedy (*Matchstick Men*)...
3. JOHN CARPENTER
Back in the 70s, he gave us two masterpieces (*Assault on Precinct 13*, *Halloween*), and through the 80s, he reigned as the king of horror (*The Fog*, *The Thing*, *Christine*) and sci-fi (*Escape from New York*, *Starman*, *They Live*).
It all started sliding downhill with a silly sci-fi comedy (*Memoirs of an Invisible Man*), continued with a totally unnecessary remake (*Village of the Damned*), moved into a terrible sequel (*Escape from L.A.*), and eventually bottomed out with some horror-of-horror stuff (*Vampires*, *Ghosts of Mars*).
Eventually, he finally realized he'd be better off just retiring and living off the royalties from the remakes of his own classics. Way to go, John! You really should have pulled the plug back in '88.
I'm open to theories here. Did aliens snatch them away or something?
Is this supposed to be bad? They certainly aren't as brilliant as the first two mentioned. Regardless. 🙏Take a look at his recent watchlist: Gladiator (2000), Black Hawk Down (2001), and Kingdom of Heaven (2005). I haven't caught that last one yet, so I'll have to add it to my list.🙂 In my opinion, he proved himself to be one of the finest directors working today. I remember seeing his early work in a small theater in Chicago, and even then, his vision was unmistakable.
wearytinker8 said:In the movie business, you see directors who walk away while they're still at the top of their game—think George Lucas or James Cameron—but then there’s the other group. These are the guys who didn't quit, even though they probably should have... or could have just switched to using a pseudonym to save face:
1. FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA
After basically delivering three of the greatest films ever made in Hollywood history (*The Godfather*, *The Godfather Part II*, and *Apocalypse Now*), Coppola spent the 80s churning out about a dozen movies that absolutely nobody has ever heard of.
Have any of you actually heard of *One from the Heart*, *Rumble Fish*, *The Cotton Club*, *Peggy Sue Got Married*, *Gardens of Stone*, or maybe *Tucker: The Man and His Dream* (okay, fine, I've heard of that one)?
Then he tries to reclaim some dignity with *The Godfather Part III* and *Dracula*, only to deliver what might be the biggest shock in cinema history: the guy who directed *The Godfather* makes *Jack*—which is basically just a rip-off of *Big*, starring that absolute nutjob Robin Williams as a ten-year-old boy who, because of some aging disorder, looks like a hyperactive, hairy gnome.
2. RIDLEY SCOTT
After handing us two of the best sci-fi flicks ever made (*Alien*, *Blade Runner*), Ridley decided to pivot to... well, whatever this was: a kid's movie with Tom Cruise (*Legend*), some mediocre thrillers (*Someone to Watch Over Me*, *Black Rain*), a feminist drama (*Thelma & Louise*), an incredibly tedious historical epic (*1492: Conquest of Paradise*), a female version of *Full Metal Jacket* (*G.I. Jane*), a pretty weak sequel (*Hannibal*), and a Nicolas Cage comedy (*Matchstick Men*)...
3. JOHN CARPENTER
Back in the 70s, he gave us two masterpieces (*Assault on Precinct 13*, *Halloween*), and through the 80s, he reigned as the king of horror (*The Fog*, *The Thing*, *Christine*) and sci-fi (*Escape from New York*, *Starman*, *They Live*).
It all started sliding downhill with a silly sci-fi comedy (*Memoirs of an Invisible Man*), continued with a totally unnecessary remake (*Village of the Damned*), moved into a terrible sequel (*Escape from L.A.*), and eventually bottomed out with some horror-of-horror stuff (*Vampires*, *Ghosts of Mars*).
Eventually, he finally realized he'd be better off just retiring and living off the royalties from the remakes of his own classics. Way to go, John! You really should have pulled the plug back in '88.
I'm open to theories here. Did aliens snatch them away or something?
Now, this part might be a bit sensitive. Personally, I've never been a huge fan of this director. There are some of his "cult" hits I skipped entirely or just found overrated. You actually missed Big Trouble in Little China (1986) on that list above. It's a fantastic movie. Moving on to his 90s work: I watched Body Bags (1993), In the Mouth of Madness (1995), Village of the Damned (1995), and Vampires (1998). Body Bags and Mouth of Madness were great, Village was just okay, and Vampires was weak. It seems clear his pace has slowed down significantly.