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Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
lonegardener said:That might actually be a pretty bad idea. In today's climate, you'd probably end up "transitioning"—well, take your pick on the terminology—with gender-affirming therapies before you know it. 🤣

So, you start the testosterone tests... and you might even end up getting some surgical implants to mimic certain anatomy..

LOL. Not quite, though.
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
lonegardener said:Yeah, that’s basically just people talking out of their asses to feel important. 🤣

But look, there are definitely people who mean it. Take Blair White's boyfriend, for example. lol.

By the way, here is what Blair White had to say about Matt Walsh's documentary 'What is a woman?'.

🤣
And I can certainly see why they identify as straight... I guess everyone wishes they could just be normal.
Kenneth Cruz67 said:Oh, I honestly wish I could just find myself a man in a woman's body! I suppose I would marry him in a heartbeat, since it feels like it might just be the most perfect, ideal way to get the best of both worlds, 🤣

bogami, this really gives one plenty of things to ponder. 😁
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
I suppose anyone here who claims to speak on behalf of men is just trolling until they actually marry a trans woman; only then might I consider their convictions to be anything more than a joke.
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
steelridge58 said:I don't think they need pity at all, because honestly, expressing pity can actually end up stripping a person of their dignity, which makes it far from being "human enough"—in fact, it's pretty damaging.

Would you actually want someone to look down on you with pity? As the saying goes, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Compassion or empathy is a completely different animal; those things require an actual connection, some kind of interaction or dialogue, or at least some level of engagement with the other person.

Just imagine you're spending days listening to a puppy whimpering in a nearby thicket, and his cries are just so heartbreakingly sad that you find yourself totally won over by them. You assume he’s lonely and desperately needs a home and some food, so you head out into the woods, only to find this massive 260-pound guy crawling around on all fours, wiggling and grooving his way toward you. Would you really take that "cute puppy" home and throw him a bone?

Please don't trivialize the topic with these kinds of awkward comparisons unless you want me to yell—Deussex, watch out!!

What they really need is to be recognized as actual women, but I suppose that's impossible because it simply isn't that straightforward.
Being a woman involves the whole integration of psyche and body, and it means exactly what it meant before people started engaging in this kind of mental masturbation.
Pity seems like the most natural reaction, perhaps even a way to rise above xenophobia, which is also a natural response in these circumstances. Maybe from pity, some kind of decent treatment could actually emerge...
So, you're calling that trivialization? 🤣
It feels to me like you've essentially said the exact same thing, just using more words.
And the fact that you find the comparison "misplaced" probably just suggests that we might be closer to understanding this issue than you'd care to admit.
Anyway, go ahead. Give it your best shot. 🤣
Go on then, though it won't change the reality that a trans woman isn't even a trans woman; she isn't a woman at all, but rather a man somewhat better disguised as one due to some neurological glitch that convinces him he's a woman, despite all the masculine traits he possesses.
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
steelridge58 said:Look, let’s be clear here—we aren't talking about some kind of performance or an act; this is about fundamental gender identity and the actual person you've met and experienced firsthand. I just saw the video. To me, being a woman is fundamentally about one's biological identity.

I really tried to lay it out for you with an example—you know, just to show how someone can exist and interact with the world without their physical appearance defining them, where they just act naturally and communicate authentically instead of putting on some kind of act, but I guess you aren't actually interested in really grasping the point I'm making.

Quincy:
Deus ex machina Asks:
I mean, honestly, what would I even have to become just to reach that level of understanding? 🙂)
Look, I know you probably couldn't care less about this, but I really want to see if you’re even capable of wrapping your head around the whole situation from a different angle, just to test the limits of how much you can actually grasp on a topic like this.

Sometimes I think that if we could just find a way to truly step into the shoes of The Second, or even try to see things through the eyes of a parent raising a transgender child—or even just imagine ourselves navigating those same struggles as parents ourselves—it might actually help us understand the situation a little better.

Whether you actually agree with transgender identities or not really doesn't matter; seeking out genuine understanding and making the effort to educate yourself—to truly learn the nuances of someone else's reality—is something that enriches your soul rather than diminishes it. I honestly believe that staying informed helps us grow as people, regardless of our personal stances on the matter. But if you consciously choose to lean into transphobia or nurture xenophobic narratives in the way you speak to others, then you aren't just being closed-minded, you're actively choosing to stay small.
For philosophy.

Of course. That’s exactly why they identify as transgender, and they’re fully aware of that reality.

Quincy:
Justin Richardson7 Asks:
At that specific crossroads where you’re just staring into this empty possibility—this purely abstract assumption that I might actually find myself drawn to her because of the way her mind works—it just doesn't hold water. Because honestly, if someone possesses a way of thinking that breeds that kind of fundamental confusion, it isn't just some isolated quirk or a random fragment of their personality that you can overlook; it’s something that will inevitably bleed through into everything they do. That realization completely kills any chance of me being attracted to her intellectual side. To put it bluntly, her logic would eventually manifest itself in every little thing she says or does, leaving us as total strangers on almost every single issue, let alone finding some kind of spark or "vibe" that connects us.
Look, this thought experiment—since it’s essentially just a mental exercise or a hypothetical scenario—is defined by its own specific set of rules, and I think we really need to stick to the parameters we've actually established rather than drifting into those extra points you're bringing up, because if we start factoring in things that weren't part of the initial setup, we aren't even talking about the same experiment anymore.

Wait, we've understood each other so well, connected mentally to such a degree... yet if she hadn't "told" me she "identifies" as a woman while actually being a man in a male body, whatever... wouldn't that be a form of withholding truth and pretending? 🤣
Do you honestly believe a person isn't defined by their body?
It isn't that I lack interest in understanding; it's just that I don't see what there is to understand.
Just because something is distressing to them... what am I supposed to do? Am I expected to pretend to believe in something when I have absolutely no basis for believing it? I can feel sympathy, and I think that should be enough to remain decent (though how much does decency even matter when we are discussing philosophy and social constructs?) from my perspective.
Instead, imagine you spend days listening to a puppy whimpering in a nearby thicket. Its cries are so heartbreakingly sad that they win you over. You assume it's lonely and needs a home and food. You head out into the woods, only to find a 260lb man crawling on all fours, wiggling around and rubbing against you. Would you still adopt that "sweet little puppy" and toss him a bone?
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:Well, I might have to respectfully disagree with you there, if you don't mind me saying.

I truly believe that men are just fundamentally visual creatures, at least in my estimation. It seems like they don't really buy into anything until they can see it with their own eyes. Even if someone were to lie about their gender, or maybe their weight, or something else entirely—it doesn't really matter—because, in the end, you’re just going to perceive them as being dishonest.

Personally speaking, I think I would much rather be in a situation where I was surrounded by ten men in a woman's body than deal with just one woman in a man's body.

I mean, I guess we all pretty much know what the ultimate goal of this whole scenario is intended to be, right? 😬

True enough.

Justin Richardson7 said:It really is just a thought experiment—playing around with hollow possibilities.
In practical terms, such a scenario is impossible because this premise

1) assumes you met a woman online whom you found deeply attractive, specifically for her way of thinking

contradicts the very foundation of point

2) and she asks what would happen if she were a woman in a man's body.

This implies that one can be attracted to a woman—without having seen her, essentially detached from physical appearance (which presents its own set of complications)—based solely on her intellectual framework...

... while simultaneously assuming that her way of thinking is such that she can perceive herself as a woman inhabiting a male body.

That is where the logic collapses; the abstract assumption that her way of thinking alone could be the catalyst for attraction is flawed. If her mindset is truly structured in a way that allows for such identity confusion, that perspective won't be a mere isolated fragment; it will permeate everything about her. Consequently, the idea that I could be attracted to her through her intellect becomes moot. In reality, her worldview would manifest in every interaction, ensuring we remain fundamental strangers on almost every level, far from any kind of mutual spark.

Yeah, I suppose so.
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
steelridge58 said:So, I stumbled upon this woman online—just one of those random, unexpected encounters where you aren't looking for anything at all—and she completely floored me with her perspective on life, her sheer sensibility, and this incredible, subtle sensuality that just radiates through a screen. Honestly, I couldn't help myself; I had to reach out privately because the connection was just too intense to ignore. We started messaging and talking about absolutely everything, building this deep friendship that naturally carried this heavy, electric erotic undertone between us. We grew so close, so quickly, and even though we could have easily let this stay tucked away in our digital bubbles, I found myself craving her presence in the real world, so I finally took the leap and asked her to meet me in person.

She was really second-guessing herself about the whole thing, but I kept trying to cheer her on and give her that extra push she needed, even when she started throwing these wild hypothetical questions my way—like, she actually asked me how on earth I’d react if she were suddenly a woman trapped in a man's body, and what my immediate response would be if I saw her like that. I saw you....or what?
Haha, you were practically howling while typing that out, weren't you? Honestly, that has to be the most elaborate attempt at dodging a meetup I’ve ever heard, and believe me, I’ve been rejected more times than I care to admit. So, since we're actually doing this, how about we just meet up this Friday around five o'clock over at Starbucks in downtown Chicago?

Consider this a little thought experiment.

She didn't show up, and honestly, I can't help but wonder if her headspace is just completely different from how you first met her, like she's forgotten the very essence of who she was when you two actually connected.

It popped up: can you? I just really need to see her.Can you actually recognize that specific person you once knew, even when they're standing right in front of you in a man's body?

I honestly feel like she’d be really understanding toward you if you just sat her down and talked it out.

🙂)

Would I see them as I wish to see them, or as they truly are? If it's the former, I suppose I might find some way to cling to the illusion. But if it's the latter, then I am merely a victim of his own fervor and pretension.
No, because it wouldn't be her anymore; it would just be him pretending to be her. No matter how feminine or delicate a man might act, he is still a man. Add to that the fact that he believes himself to be a woman, and well... that doesn't suddenly make him one. It just makes him such an anomaly that I wouldn't even want to know him, let alone pursue any kind of relationship.
Let's stop pretending that having certain preferences isn't perfectly normal. 😉
Well, I guess I don't really care much for being "understanding" in that regard. 🙂)
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
Harold Doyle3 said:The man thinks anatomy is just a suggestion.

I wonder what on earth that poor guy could have possibly done to deserve this?
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
Jose Edwards16 said:So, we're looking at this through the lens of some kind of trans-logic—which, let’s be honest, is usually just a fancy way of being illogical. I guess it works if you're into that sort of thing, but it mostly just feels like circular reasoning dressed up in a suit.

Quincy:
I guess it really depends on who you ask, doesn't it? It’s one of those questions where the answer shifts depending on whether you’re looking at a corporate HR manual in Manhattan or just grabbing a beer in some small town in the Midwest. In a vacuum—like, if we're talking about big tech companies or major corporations based in places like San Francisco or Seattle—the official policy is obviously going to be full acceptance. They have all these DEI frameworks in place, so on paper, it’s a non-issue. But actual practice? That’s where things get messy and complicated. People have their own biases, regardless of what the handbook says. Then you have the more traditional parts of the country, where social circles might be a bit more... let's say, conservative. In those areas, the social friction might be higher, and the "acceptance" might feel a lot more forced or superficial. It’s a weird spectrum, I suppose. There isn't really one single way America handles this; it's more like a patchwork of different social realities depending on exactly where you're standing.
So, apparently, the trans activists are out there claiming that if we don't all just collectively decide that trans women are women, then we're automatically labeled as transphobic. It’s one of those things where you're basically handed a script—either follow the lines or get branded with the label. I guess that's just how the whole dynamic works now, though it feels a bit like being backed into a corner, maybe.

Quincy:
Honestly, when I sit back and just picture the whole thing—without really overthinking it or trying too hard to make sense of it all—it pretty much tells me everything I need to know. I guess it just speaks for itself.
It’s not really the same thing—and honestly, I wouldn't go so far as to pretend that it is.
Fair point, I guess.

So, here we go again—yet another YouTube video from my favorite critic of the trans movement, Matt Walsh.
YouTube

So, Walsh is out here pointing out this weird little contradiction—I guess you could call it a double standard—where the LGBTQ+ crowd insists that sexual orientation isn't some kind of choice and that people should be free to love whoever they want. But then, somehow, it’s the exact same group deciding you're being "exclusionary" if you say you're attracted to biological women—you know, women born female—and apparently, you're suddenly "transphobic" if your definition of "woman" doesn't include trans women. It's a bit of a head-scratcher, honestly.

Second point—Walsh argues that if you find someone attractive, then they're attractive based entirely on how you perceive them—not based on how they view themselves. I guess it’s just a matter of perception, really.
So, sure, trans people can see themselves as women—that’s fine—but if a straight guy doesn't actually perceive that femininity or find them attractive... well, then you aren't exactly getting anywhere with romance. It’s just how things work, I guess.
It’s really more about the freedom of choice than it is about being transphobic. Honestly—and I guess this is just my two cents—"transphobia" has basically become this convenient little label people slap on anyone who dares to question certain LGBTQ+ stances. It feels less like an actual critique and more like a way to shut down the conversation entirely.

So, my little one—she’s got this thing, I guess—she absolutely lives for rock 'n' roll. It’s her whole vibe. Electronic stuff? Doesn't move her. Blues or jazz? Not really her speed either—it just doesn't click for her, I suppose.
Am I jazz-phobic? Blues-phobic? Or just some hater of electronic music? Not really—it’s more like I just don't listen to it and stick to rock. It's a preference, I guess.☕

I didn't really become "transphobic" until after watching several "don't be transphobic" videos, once I saw what kind of situations were actually involved. There are probably perfectly fine trans people out there, but these specific representatives have done more to alienate people than to help them. Much like they've done with the gay community. For me, I just need to look at how that trans person presents, and everything becomes clear.
ruggedraven36 said:It’s actually pretty simple—you just have to look at two different levels of reality. On a biological level, they aren't the same; on a spiritual level, they are. People claiming they're identical are talking about the soul, while those saying they aren't are looking at nature. They end up fighting because half the people involved don't even realize what the other side is actually talking about.

And credit to those who think in terms of the spirit. 🤷
Harold Doyle3 said:Using Hegelian logic—where the woman is the idea.

Isn't he the one who came up with those pelvic floor exercises?
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
Sam Martinez9 said:That really depends on whether you define yourself by your mind or by your body.

I'm struggling to see the logic behind that, honestly.
And I can't quite grasp the reasoning used to split identity into such distinct categories as "mind" versus "body" in the first place.
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
I suppose I struggle to grasp the logic behind the idea that a woman inhabiting a male body could be considered identical to a woman inhabiting a female body.🤷
How far would society actually go in practice when it comes to accepting a trans woman as a woman?
To me, it all seems quite clear if I just sit back and let my mind wander for a moment without overthinking it too much.
It really isn't the same thing, and I certainly wouldn't pretend that it is.
Debates over sex and gender in Philosophy ·
lonegardener said:Here’s a little more food for thought:

This older guy, a local shop owner, hung a sign outside his door that read: "if you were born with a dick, you're not a chick." 🤣

Well, some guy in a skirt—who happens to be a local city councilman—spotted it and demanded the owner take it down. So, you have this tall, burly guy who is very obviously a man. Look, nobody is stopping him from wearing a skirt, but apparently, that isn't enough for him: he wants *society* to loudly "validate" that he is a woman. It’s a very interesting concept.

Then there’s an older example: Ben Shapiro addressed Zoe Tur as "sir" (instead of, presumably, "ma'am" 🤦)

—to which the guy put his hand on Ben Shapiro's neck and said, "you can cut it out, or you'll go home in an ambulance."

Ben Shapiro gave a pretty weak response to that. He really should have said: DUDE! That was soooo ladylike, I'm sure everyone is now convinced that you are, in fact, a woman. 🤣
Attachment styles in relationships: How do you deal with them? in Psychology & Therapy ·
I suppose I’m the type of person who tends to shy away from things.
Sometimes it weighs on me, but then, given how much cynicism I harbor regarding romantic relationships, I guess it actually works out quite well for me in the end.
Communication issues in Psychology & Therapy ·
analogmarlin4 said:Or maybe I just wasn't great at jumping into the conversation myself.

It’s probably a bit before it even reaches you.
Roommate issues in Psychology & Therapy ·
Lolita. A nymph.
Poll: What defines true courage? in Philosophy ·
A total lack of fear.
Pick your favorite! in Philosophy ·
Vitality.
It is that underlying force that sustains us, the thing that provides motivation and serves as a constant reminder of what it actually means to possess a genuine, positive will to live.
People who stare at you in Psychology ·
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Maria Price3 said:Whenever I think back to this one guy with Asperger's (which is pretty much what I called him to his face), it gives me the chills. Honestly, he just got under my skin so much that looking back, I feel like screaming, "What do you even want?!" But, well, I was being myself—polite and composed, I guess. 🕺

It’s true, though; they either completely withdraw or they lean in way too hard. I guess it happens when they start treating eye contact as some sort of mandatory social requirement without actually grasping the nuance of how it works. Though, more often than not, direct eye contact seems to be an uncomfortable distraction for them.
"Eyes are distracting, you see too much, you don't see enough. And-And it's hard to focus when you're thinking, um, 'Oh, those whites are really white', or, 'He must have hepatitis', or, 'Oh, is that a burst vein?' So, yeah, I try to avoid eyes whenever possible." — This is what Will Graham from Hannibal, a character who is supposedly on the spectrum, says. 😬 .
People who stare at you in Psychology ·
Jamie Adams6 said:What’s actually going through someone's head when they just... look down?

Well, I suppose looking away is just a classic sign of submission in our culture. But since you already know all that and never bother to lower your gaze, I guess you're just confused why everyone else does. Is it really that hard to grasp?
I find certain individuals quite baffling; I mean, don't they realize that if we make eye contact five times and then I happen to glance away—just to make it look completely accidental on my part—that I'm signaling a total lack of interest in any kind of connection? Yet, they keep staring. They think they’re exerting some sort of dominance, but in my estimation, they just come across as socially oblivious. Personally, I have no trouble maintaining intense eye contact... people actually tell me I tend to stare a bit too long during conversations... It seems like a mix of genuine interest and a touch of neurodivergence, or perhaps insecurity coupled with a lack of social cues. I guess without that certain level of detachment, it's all just a mess.
Reddit: Only for the real psychos in Off-topic ·
darksurfer4 said:Even if something is minimal, it still exists, which means by default it isn't nothing. Nothingness doesn't truly exist...

Or perhaps it lies just beyond the reach of our perception? I suppose the moment we attempt to contemplate "nothing," it immediately transforms into "something"...
Everything is essentially nothing until a mind arrives to observe it, I guess. Maybe nothingness is actually the only thing that truly exists, independent of human consciousness—liberated by our very inability to grasp it. Once something is understood or defined, it becomes limited. In that sense, nothingness, much like everything else, remains limitless. The only real distinction is that everything else is perceived, whereas nothingness is not. If we were somehow able to perceive nothingness, then nothingness would be the only thing left in existence...

- What's in the fridge?
- Nothing.

You could probably stretch any abstract concept you care to, all the way to absolute nothingness. Freedom, truth, goodness, happiness... they all eventually dissolve into nothing.