Betty Fowler said:Look, let's be real here—at the end of the day, our entire existence depends on reproduction. If a society fails to create the actual conditions necessary to support bringing new life into the world, then that society is basically signing its own death warrant. It's just common sense.
Honestly, the percentage of transgender and gay people is so incredibly small that bringing up some apocalyptic scenario about "unsecured reproduction" is just complete nonsense. It’s pure nonsense! And even if—by some wild stroke of luck or fate—everyone suddenly became gay or transgender overnight, our science and technology have advanced way too far for us to worry about the survival of the species. We have the tools to ensure humanity keeps moving forward regardless. Besides, let's be real: if we all ended up disappearing tomorrow, it certainly wouldn't be the worst thing to ever happen to this world.
Brandon Lopez6 said:I was scrolling through photos of those famous ladyboys from Thailand, and honestly? A huge chunk of them look better than most girls out there (myself included) 😁.
I’ve noticed more and more Western guys joining the whole "weeboo" crowd, dreaming about that perfect, tiny Japanese girl—though people use the term for anyone obsessed with Asian women in general.
In my opinion, you can probably find that petite, delicate look in Thailand where you can't even tell if someone is 15 or 25, which is apparently a massive thrill for some guys.
Legally speaking, they don't even look like they aren't 😳.
As far as the sex goes, I think most of them (like Sam Alvarez4 mentioned) actually crave double dominance. Only a small number want to be the bottom in that scenario—even though a good portion of them have working equipment since they aren't all on hormones that make things... less functional or totally non-functional.
In today's world where everything is so accessible, I guess this is maybe the last bit of (legal) variety left.
Back in the day, people used to lose their minds over porn stars because they looked so different from regular girls. Fake boobs, that specific porn aesthetic, certain outfits—that wasn't exactly common in the mainstream. But now, when you walk around a major US city, you can always find someone who looks exactly like that... just look at reality TV starlets, or especially those girls from our neighbors to the East 😁.
On the flip side, Thailand is a long way off. It’s not like you can just hop on a plane for a weekend trip. Between the money and the time, it's a stretch.
So, it stays a nice fantasy, and it's questionable how many people would actually pull the trigger on making it happen.
(Reminds me of this story on Reddit about a guy who was really into scat. He spent years hyper-focused on it, but once he finally set everything up and it was time to go down, he realized he didn't actually want it 😁.)
I mean, why do people generally go to prostitutes?
There have been tons of threads on this, and there's still no "scientific" answer. It’s just personal stuff like "it’s easier" or "I don't have to worry about her taste for once"...
Regarding this topic, I bet everyone dreaming about it has their own specific reason that wouldn't apply to anyone else.
It was actually pretty interesting talking to this one guy who isn't gay at all, but has this desire. I realized he couldn't explain it to me in a way that would make sense, just like I couldn't explain to lesbians why I only want to hook up with men, or why people don't get the whole celibacy concept.
It's just not wired into us, so no matter how hard we try, we can't fully grasp what's going on in someone else's head.
Honestly, looking at everything that’s been said, the only thing in that list that isn't actually "natural" is celibacy. If you really think about it, both heterosexuality and homosexuality are perfectly natural parts of the human experience.
Jacob Miller4 said:Transgender people strike me as a pretty fascinating phenomenon. It isn’t just about the individuals themselves—though there has already been plenty written about gender dysphoria in Psychology here and here—it’s also about how everyone else reacts to them.
It seems that even in places where transgender visibility is relatively high, like Thailand or Brazil, they aren't entirely shielded from social stigma. They still tend to exist in a sort of half-world. Take Thailand, for example: you see them everywhere, and they aren't getting jumped in the streets or called slurs constantly, but finding a job outside of the sex industry is an uphill battle. Most end up in janitorial work. It’s a similar story in Brazil. I have better intel on that because I used to be friends with a Brazilian gay man—not trans himself, but he knew quite a few during his time in New York City. He told me the biggest hurdle is employment. They fare better on the street, where demand is high and the pay for sex work is actually better than what men earn, but if someone wants a "normal" career, the options are incredibly narrow, usually circling back to cleaning houses.
That said, while there is significant social stigma surrounding such a radical shift in gender roles (which often involves "cosmetic" changes rather than full surgical reassignment—think silicone implants, removing the Adam's apple, and standard hormone therapy), things look different when you strip away the social norms and look at it from an individual level. As I touched on earlier, transgender prostitutes in New York City (according to my friend) can out-earn men in the same business. And everyone knows they are a major pillar of the sex industry in Thailand. My takeaway is that they simply tap into a market that exists beyond the traditional male homosexual demographic. In Thailand, this is even more obvious; a huge portion of their clientele consists of middle-aged, heterosexual white Australians. These guys identify as straight and only sleep with women, except for these specific encounters.
For the skeptics, here’s an even more interesting case... That Brazilian guy I mentioned is the type of effeminate man whose sexual orientation you can spot from thirty yards away. Honestly, he doesn't even try to hide it; it shows in his clothes, his gestures, and his facial expressions. Once, a buddy of his—just a friend, not a partner—came to visit him, and they ended up getting jumped on a beach here in the States. A group of guys saw them, identified them as gay (especially since one was clearly effeminate), and decided they needed to teach them a lesson. It traumatized my friend so much that for the rest of his trip in America, he was terrified of being attacked by strangers.
On the flip side, there was another instance involving an art project. He had to dress as a woman for the stage (he’s done this before, and I can vouch that his camouflage was top-tier—he actually looked better as a woman than he did as an effeminate man). After the work was done, he and the crew went out to a club in the city. He stayed in his feminine disguise (so, a typical transvestite without the breast implants or the missing Adam's apple...). He told me that throughout the night in that packed club, a massive number of men were hitting on him. Like, a lot. Between being attractive (😁), speaking English and Portuguese with a Latin accent, and being all dolled up and made up... it worked. What was particularly strange was that a good portion of those men kept flirting even after he told them he was male.
What I'm getting at is that while social stigma is one thing, when you look at the psychology, you see something else entirely. The typical male disdain for homosexuality often softens the moment the person looks like a woman. You have these "hardcore" straight men who probably think they sit at a 0 or maybe a 1 on the Kinsey scale, yet they'll travel to Thailand and flirt shamelessly with a gorgeous, stunning woman with beautiful clothes, perfect makeup, fragrant hair, smooth skin, and a small penis and testicles. Some even go as far as more than just flirting. How does that work?
I honestly think that in those more superficial or even just casually sexual situations, some guys really struggle to look past the visual aspect of things. It’s like, for them, the "how it looks" part carries way more weight than what's actually going on underneath. I mean, let's be real—a lot of those men would probably hit a massive wall if they ever tried to build a genuine, deep emotional connection with a transgender person. At that level, you can't just rely on what catches your eye; you actually have to be able to listen, empathize, and truly understand who someone is.
Jacob Miller4 said:Transgender people strike me as a pretty fascinating phenomenon. It isn’t just about the individuals themselves—though there has already been plenty written about gender dysphoria in Psychology here and here—it’s also about how everyone else reacts to them.
It seems that even in places where transgender visibility is relatively high, like Thailand or Brazil, they aren't entirely shielded from social stigma. They still tend to exist in a sort of half-world. Take Thailand, for example: you see them everywhere, and they aren't getting jumped in the streets or called slurs constantly, but finding a job outside of the sex industry is an uphill battle. Most end up in janitorial work. It’s a similar story in Brazil. I have better intel on that because I used to be friends with a Brazilian gay man—not trans himself, but he knew quite a few during his time in New York City. He told me the biggest hurdle is employment. They fare better on the street, where demand is high and the pay for sex work is actually better than what men earn, but if someone wants a "normal" career, the options are incredibly narrow, usually circling back to cleaning houses.
That said, while there is significant social stigma surrounding such a radical shift in gender roles (which often involves "cosmetic" changes rather than full surgical reassignment—think silicone implants, removing the Adam's apple, and standard hormone therapy), things look different when you strip away the social norms and look at it from an individual level. As I touched on earlier, transgender prostitutes in New York City (according to my friend) can out-earn men in the same business. And everyone knows they are a major pillar of the sex industry in Thailand. My takeaway is that they simply tap into a market that exists beyond the traditional male homosexual demographic. In Thailand, this is even more obvious; a huge portion of their clientele consists of middle-aged, heterosexual white Australians. These guys identify as straight and only sleep with women, except for these specific encounters.
For the skeptics, here’s an even more interesting case... That Brazilian guy I mentioned is the type of effeminate man whose sexual orientation you can spot from thirty yards away. Honestly, he doesn't even try to hide it; it shows in his clothes, his gestures, and his facial expressions. Once, a buddy of his—just a friend, not a partner—came to visit him, and they ended up getting jumped on a beach here in the States. A group of guys saw them, identified them as gay (especially since one was clearly effeminate), and decided they needed to teach them a lesson. It traumatized my friend so much that for the rest of his trip in America, he was terrified of being attacked by strangers.
On the flip side, there was another instance involving an art project. He had to dress as a woman for the stage (he’s done this before, and I can vouch that his camouflage was top-tier—he actually looked better as a woman than he did as an effeminate man). After the work was done, he and the crew went out to a club in the city. He stayed in his feminine disguise (so, a typical transvestite without the breast implants or the missing Adam's apple...). He told me that throughout the night in that packed club, a massive number of men were hitting on him. Like, a lot. Between being attractive (😁), speaking English and Portuguese with a Latin accent, and being all dolled up and made up... it worked. What was particularly strange was that a good portion of those men kept flirting even after he told them he was male.
What I'm getting at is that while social stigma is one thing, when you look at the psychology, you see something else entirely. The typical male disdain for homosexuality often softens the moment the person looks like a woman. You have these "hardcore" straight men who probably think they sit at a 0 or maybe a 1 on the Kinsey scale, yet they'll travel to Thailand and flirt shamelessly with a gorgeous, stunning woman with beautiful clothes, perfect makeup, fragrant hair, smooth skin, and a small penis and testicles. Some even go as far as more than just flirting. How does that work?
Honestly, it feels like society finds lesbians much easier to stomach than gay men. You see it all the time—plenty of homophobic guys will happily watch lesbian adult films, yet they act totally disgusted at the mere sight of two men holding hands. I can't quite figure out if that's just deep-seated projection or if they simply don't view any sexual connection as "real" unless there's actual penetration involved.