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Changing my username and not hiding it in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 27, 2013

Brian Edwards78 said:Let's play out a scenario where the admins decide a ban was totally unjustified and wipe it clean, but then they look at a second account that got hit with a permanent ban because someone was posting while the first account was already sidelined. If the whole thing started with an unfair ban on the primary account, wouldn't it be logical to scrap the secondary ban too, since it's essentially just a domino effect from that first mistake?

Well, honestly, probably not. The reality is that the user was still actively posting while the account was suspended. They could have just sat tight and waited until they proved the initial ban was a mistake. Plus, you have to remember that sometimes there are amnesties issued that aren't necessarily admissions of error, but more like acts of grace—there are a lot of gray areas in these situations that the staff takes into account.

Brian Edwards78 said:I wasn't quite following the logic behind that underlined sentence because it felt like it could go a few different ways. But hey, glad we've cleared that up now.

Sorry about the clunky wording there! I'm really glad we're finally on the same page.

Changing my username and not hiding it in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 27, 2013

Brian Edwards78 said:So, just to be crystal clear here—it’s against the rules to break them using your original account too, right? Just making sure I've got that straight. 😁

Of course, but we also have specific rules for when you're mentioning multiple nicknames in a single post.

Brian Edwards78 said:Even if the original ban was totally unjustified, does it really matter?

Look, if the admin team takes a second look and decides that the ban was actually a mistake, they’ll clear it right up and get you back in. But otherwise, they're going to treat it as a justified call.

Brian Edwards78 said:Wait, hang on a second—you just told me a moment ago that one person would get a permanent ban while the other would just face an extended suspension, but now you're claiming there aren't any posting restrictions at all while an account is currently under a ban. To me, those two things seem to be clashing pretty hard; don't you think? 😕

I honestly don't get what part of this isn't clicking for you. Look, if you have one account sitting under a ban and you try to hop on with a different nickname, you’re playing a dangerous game—one account is going to catch a temporary suspension for maybe a week or ten days, while the other could end up getting a Permaban. Once that short suspension period is actually over, you can go back to posting normally with that secondary account (or any of your other unbanned ones), provided you actually follow the community guidelines. But—and this is the big "but"—if any of your accounts gets hit with a Permaban because they broke the rules so badly they were kicked out for good, then you aren't allowed to post from *any* account at all. In that specific sentence you highlighted, I was using posting while under a ban as a prime example of what counts as breaking the rules.

Changing my username and not hiding it in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 27, 2013

Brian Edwards78 said:
Let's say I decide to open an account under sl4fko or something similar, without even giving a single moderator a heads-up. Even so, plenty of people (including the mods, honestly) would clearly realize it's just my other account. In that case, would that second account be officially considered a clone?

Look, that account *is* a clone, whether the mods catch on or not. But having clones isn't actually against the rules—it's what you *do* with them that gets you in trouble. If you aren't banned from the forum, you aren't obligated to tell anyone that you've retired your old handle in favor of a new one. You really only need to reach out if you plan on being active in the exact same threads or sub-forums as before, because the mods need to give you the green light for that; since posting from multiple profiles simultaneously is forbidden (across the whole site in certain threads, though some specific sub-forums allow one nick for everything), they have to clear it first.

Brian Edwards78 said:What would happen in a scenario where that second account racks up three warnings for trolling (which, by the way, isn't even a huge deal since most of the mods don't even know what actual trolling looks like), and then the user logs in using their original account?

If you were to use your original handle while the other one was sitting under a suspension, you’d end up with one account getting a Permaban and the other getting an extension on its ban for another seven or ten days.

Brian Edwards78 said:To wrap up this round of questions, are there any rules against running two accounts in parallel? For instance, using one account for CNN and the other for MK. Or maybe Brian Edwards78 posts on even days, and sl4fko posts on odd days.

There isn't a rule against that as long as you aren't breaking other regulations, like trying to post while you're under a ban or if one of the handles is currently restricted. For example, if Brian Edwards78 has a restriction on MK, that means you can't go in there using any other nickname either.

Changing my username and not hiding it in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 27, 2013

Jeffrey Bennett77 said:Look, my handle Dodo89 is currently stuck under a permanent ban, even though I specifically told everyone I wouldn't use it anymore and that I was just going to start fresh with a brand-new account! 😁 Look, I have to say, I’m going to have to give a direct response to what rustydrifter10 was getting at there, because we really need to get into the weeds on this one if we want any clarity. 🙂

To be clear, Dodo89 isn't banned—just answering your specific point there! 😁

Changing my username and not hiding it in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 27, 2013

Brian Edwards78 said:Honestly, I couldn't care less about who this mentioned Civilization person is, or whether they’re using an old or a new handle. What I actually want to know is: a) what happens to the old account once the new one is activated, b) just how much "fame" or recognition does a new nickname need to have before someone decides to flag them as a clone and hit them with a Permaban, and c) how much weight does this whole "not hiding" aspect carry when deciding if a new nickname should be banned?

I honestly don't get why anyone would even think about banning a user just because they stopped posting under one name and started using a new one. It's like if you decided you were done being Brian Edwards78, opened up an account as Mark, and just kept on writing without breaking a single rule—especially since you aren't trying to hide from the mods that you used to be Brian Edwards78 in the first place.

To answer a), Brian Edwards78 would still exist, he'd just be sitting there inactive because that was your choice.
As for b), since Brian Edwards78 is just a standard forum user, there's really no reason to ban Mark; having multiple accounts isn't against the rules here.
Regarding c), the part about being upfront with the moderators matters most if you plan on jumping back into the same discussion threads you used with your first account, simply because of the rules against using multiple handles within a single thread.

Hopefully, that clears things up!

The Case of E. in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 26, 2013

Look, we aren't going to pick up where you left off in that locked thread. We don't need a dedicated discussion about you, even if you were the one who started it in the first place. The admins have already hashed out the details regarding your ban and made their final call, so that whole chapter is officially closed. If anyone actually has questions they want to ask, they can just try reaching out via private message.

Why did they target my religion for no reason at all??? in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 26, 2013

Honestly, you’re acting just like a clone of that user who got banned—you really should have been given permanent status by now. To be fair, the mods were incredibly lenient with you when they decided to stick to just partial restrictions instead of going full hammer.

Why is the "Question" section being closed? in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 26, 2013

fadedsailor932 said:Just wondering if future posts on this thread about how (un)qualified the admin team is will get deleted? If they are, should we just start a new topic for that stuff, or can someone with the right permissions just change the title?

The question at the heart of this discussion has already been answered. Look, if you have a specific grievance against a member of the administration, go ahead and start a new thread where you can lay out concrete evidence and specific claims—and honestly, advice and suggestions are always welcome! But a broad, sweeping vent session along the lines of "everything is terrible, nothing works, everyone needs to step down..." just isn't appropriate for Amtrak. That kind of approach doesn't actually solve anything, so if you have those kinds of complaints, please just reach out to Anderson directly.

Why is the "Question" section being closed? in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 25, 2013

Can we please stop implying that anyone who posts something critical about the administration is going to get slapped with a ban? Honestly, this entire thread and the attached PDF are absolutely packed with critical posts that—believe it or not—haven't resulted in anyone getting kicked off the site.

Why is the "Question" section being closed? in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 25, 2013

It looks like the main topic here is the question of why the questions for administration have been locked down. If you check the most recent post, the reasoning is laid out right there. That said, if anyone is still feeling a bit confused by the explanation, feel free to ask about it here. Just please, let's try to keep the off-topic chatter to a minimum.

Why is the "Question" section being closed? in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 25, 2013

fadedsailor932 said:I've always been loud and clear about my views, both here and in the mod chat. And when Sasha was let go, I resigned properly—not because of who I know, but because of how they handled it. It's the same reason I stood up for a fellow mod a few months ago over stuff that had nothing to do with his actual job. Plus, unlike most people around here, I'll say it straight: Nica is a bad admin.

No, it isn't pathetic when someone starts talking about a disastrous former administration even if they joined after that crew left or just a month after signing up. I'm pretty sure no admin ever bans someone just for having a low post count.

Sure, maybe not the previous ones. But that's not really what we're talking about here.

hollowmason64 said:Why don't you tell us how the former management would have handled things? Given how long you've been around here, I'm sure you know better than anyone. 🤣

I've never seen the community treated with such blatant disrespect. It feels like everyone's complaints and concerns are just being brushed aside—it's like everything we write here just gets dismissed without a second thought.

Come on, stop exaggerating; appeals actually get answered and things do get reviewed. If they were truly brushing everyone off, there wouldn't be any responses at all, and that's definitely not happening.

fadedsailor932 said:So, that’s how it works at the Admin of Nice. If I remember right, you basically rode to your admin spot on a wave of "user-friendly" promises (or maybe you were just selling that dream to Anderson?). Users first, right? Not the grumpy mods or admins. Just pure respect and decency for the regular folks. But after a few months of being this "wonderful, perfect, and fair" Admin of Nice, the backlash started hitting. Then came the losing of tempers, the deletions, the warnings... and finally, the grand finale: locking down the very thread that was supposed to be the heart of our democracy, run by the Admin of Nice and that other person. Yeah, the motive is obvious—it's easier to dilute criticism by splitting it into a dozen tiny threads rather than letting people vent in one place. Hmm... why didn't you just do that when the thread was still on your side and everyone was praising your "genius" moderation? It’s easy to take the compliments, but you’ve got to learn how to handle the heat. You guys are doing exactly what every forum that claims to "care about its users" does—shutting down any thread that dares to criticize. Maybe you should listen to Slavko and move the complaints out of the main section; clearly, they aren't welcome here anymore..

And hey... don't sweat our warnings or bans... it's pointless—because honestly, even you don't know why you're handing them out.

Look, I never said that the mods, SMs, or admins are "bad" people. There are all kinds of personalities in the admin team, just like there are all kinds of personalities among the users. At the end of the day, users *are* the priority, but remember that the admin staff are users too. When an appeal comes in, I look into it and make a call. Sometimes it goes in favor of the user, sometimes it doesn't. As for insults and provocations? I have absolutely no intention of wasting my time or energy on that, nor am I obligated to do so.

Why is the "Question" section being closed? in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 25, 2013

hollowmason64 said:This is nothing but a pile of lies!
The whole "bickering and handing out warnings" thing only ever happens exclusively when people start criticizing how the administration handles things—and lately, that's almost always been directed at you.
If you look at my profile, you can see the full history of your warnings issued there... and in every single one of those posts, there was criticism regarding your work.
The reason for the warnings is trolling, of course 🤣

There were times you’d delete stuff whenever you didn't like what people were saying to you, so the users revolted, and then you started handing out warnings to shut them down.
Then it turned out that even warnings wouldn't silence people from telling you what they thought about you and your job—so you started both issuing warnings and deleting posts.
When you realized that neither worked to stop the "backlash," you decided to just lock the thread.
You didn't lock the thread because you care about our warnings or bans; you did it because that way, all the dissatisfaction with you and your management gets concentrated in one spot—which just makes these "outbursts" happen more frequently.
So you decided to "thin them out" this way.

You weren't the one who opened the "question" threads; Anderson did, and that specific thread was meant to show a "new direction"... sure, time shows that direction has gone completely off the rails, especially with you running the show, but if he's the one who opened it, you can't just shut it down.
Basic professional etiquette tells you not to go "over the head" of your superior.

And that thread isn't a mess because of "malicious users"; it's a mess because of poor administration and the fact that you've completely lost your way (if you want my honest opinion).
I figured out your intention to lock the thread almost two weeks ago—as soon as you let a topic turn into a troll fest (and sometimes you even help it along), you're just clearing the field so you can write a post claiming everything has become unmanageable—that's your modus operandi.
I actually wrote that to you in the thread, and you quickly deleted it.
Just like how you gave me a warning last week and then deleted your own post, or the five attempts I made on the KSB to grab a screenshot of that post.
What are you so afraid of?

Look, I am not responsible for what other people decide to type out. I don't control anyone else's keyboard, and I certainly can't be held accountable just because certain individuals refuse to engage in even the most basic, civilized conversation.

hollowmason64 said:This is nothing but a pile of lies!
The whole "bickering and handing out warnings" thing only ever happens exclusively when people start criticizing how the administration handles things—and lately, that's almost always been directed at you.
If you look at my profile, you can see the full history of your warnings issued there... and in every single one of those posts, there was criticism regarding your work.
The reason for the warnings is trolling, of course 🤣

There were times you’d delete stuff whenever you didn't like what people were saying to you, so the users revolted, and then you started handing out warnings to shut them down.
Then it turned out that even warnings wouldn't silence people from telling you what they thought about you and your job—so you started both issuing warnings and deleting posts.
When you realized that neither worked to stop the "backlash," you decided to just lock the thread.
You didn't lock the thread because you care about our warnings or bans; you did it because that way, all the dissatisfaction with you and your management gets concentrated in one spot—which just makes these "outbursts" happen more frequently.
So you decided to "thin them out" this way.

You weren't the one who opened the "question" threads; Anderson did, and that specific thread was meant to show a "new direction"... sure, time shows that direction has gone completely off the rails, especially with you running the show, but if he's the one who opened it, you can't just shut it down.
Basic professional etiquette tells you not to go "over the head" of your superior.

And that thread isn't a mess because of "malicious users"; it's a mess because of poor administration and the fact that you've completely lost your way (if you want my honest opinion).
I figured out your intention to lock the thread almost two weeks ago—as soon as you let a topic turn into a troll fest (and sometimes you even help it along), you're just clearing the field so you can write a post claiming everything has become unmanageable—that's your modus operandi.
I actually wrote that to you in the thread, and you quickly deleted it.
Just like how you gave me a warning last week and then deleted your own post, or the five attempts I made on the KSB to grab a screenshot of that post.
What are you so afraid of?

I absolutely can, and I certainly am. Look, he originally opened up this platform specifically so he could address questions from our community after everything that went down here. Once he handed the reins over to Strilet and me, we were finally free to run things exactly how we thought was best—and honestly, I think what we’ve accomplished is exactly what needed to happen.

Key, rubber band... in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 25, 2013

ambermason16 said:the PDF was supposed to be service-related...

And honestly, since it doesn't fit the scope of this massive thread, I had to lock it down. I really don't see any point in dragging this out further; there’s no sense in leaving a space open where everyone just starts sniping at one another. If we let that happen, you'll all end up with strikes, eventually getting banned, and then once again, people will blame the "evil admins" instead of admitting that they simply couldn't control the urge to provoke each other.

Another Trojan detected on the forum in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 25, 2013

northerncyclist2 said:Would it really be that much trouble to arrange for someone from the tech support team to show up here every now and then just to chat directly with the community?

Look, I honestly don't know how difficult that would be to pull off, but it’s definitely not my call to make. I totally agree with you, though—having that kind of direct line would make this place so much better and more engaging. All I can do is suggest it (which I am doing!), but ultimately, that decision lies with someone else on the management side.

PDF Photos (or "why is this forum so trash?") in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 25, 2013

Kate Wilson said:The thread title was just a clumsy, unfortunate choice of words, but there wasn't any actual malice or bad intent behind it like people are trying to claim.

Thanks, Kate Wilson.

Look, you can totally voice your criticisms calmly without resorting to insults or being provocative. If anyone wants to debate this new topic and its title, please do so over here.

Appreciate you all listening.

Admin, I need some help here please in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 24, 2013

Alright, looks like we’ve got this all sorted out now, so I’m going to go ahead and close this thread.

Key, rubber band... in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 24, 2013

ambermason16 said:p.s. Seriously though, where exactly are we supposed to go when we want to file a complaint against the admin team? It feels like every single thread where someone calls you guys out directly gets locked and wiped instantly, yet the ones where people are just venting about the mods stay wide open whenever you feel like it. Or are you all just somehow untouchable when it comes to feedback or complaints?

Look, if you've got a bone to pick, just start a new thread and back it up with actual examples and links. And while you're at it, give it a clear title so everyone knows exactly who and what you're complaining about—because right now, it’s pretty hard to tell from this mess.

Another Trojan detected on the forum in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 24, 2013

That’s just what I was told, so I can't really give you a more specific answer than that. From what I can gather, though, it doesn't seem like the issue is actually with the forum itself.

Another Trojan detected on the forum in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 24, 2013

The tech support guys are saying that what was reported is just a standard Google ad, and they don't see anything problematic about it at all.

Admin, I need some help here please in Feedback & Suggestions · Jul 24, 2013

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