Justin Harris12 said:I’ve started this thread because I need to vent about the Religion subforum.
There are several fundamental issues with the Religion section right now.
First off, the subforum itself doesn't actually function as a space for religious discussion at all. Second, there is a specific group of users who constantly poison and troll every single thread that gets opened, regardless of whether they actually know anything about the subject matter; they just fabricate nonsense, and when serious users try to refute their lies with actual evidence, they simply ignore them by doubling down on more falsehoods and repetitive mantras until the more thoughtful contributors are completely exhausted. Lately, the Religion subforum has spiraled out of control, turning into nothing more than a breeding ground for insults and endless bickering.
The third issue involves the moderator, Meadow, who openly sides with the exact group I just described while simultaneously demonstrating an undeniable intolerance toward Muslims within the subforum.
In this thread, I intend to present evidence regarding the poor moderation of the Religion subforum and how certain users, alongside Meadow, are effectively destroying it.
I’d like to remind everyone of the appeal I filed regarding the Aisha thread and how poorly it was handled; what could have been a productive discussion was completely ruined. There wasn't even a real debate in that thread from the moment it opened—just a few posts before everything was moved from another thread's off-topic section. You all took the moderator's side in that instance, and now the thread is gone; if nothing is done, this will happen to every other decent topic on the site.
Expect the same group of trolls to show up here to try and obstruct this complaint as well.
I attempted to speak with Meadow directly to explain my frustrations with her moderation style in the appropriate feedback thread, but she shut me down curtly, telling me to take my complaints exclusively to the administrator via PM and warning me not to reply to her posts again.
posts 2356, 2357, 2358, 2359
A recent example is a post by an anonymous user on a serious topic titled "The Supernatural Works of Muhammad," where they posted a caricature of Muhammad to mock him, followed immediately by a post from another user saying, "Wow, you're so wicked," accompanied by a laughing emoji.
posts 64 and 65
posts 142, 143, 163
And finally, look at the moderator's post at 147.
posts 2967, 2971, 2972, 2974, 2975, 2977
posts 369, 371, 373, 375, 380
These are just the most recent threads and posts; I have clicked the report button countless times to no avail. How long is this mockery of believers going to be permitted in the Religion subforum?
Where does the freedom of atheists end and the protection of a believer's dignity begin? Is it really acceptable to ridicule someone just because they believe in aliens, God, or anything else that hasn't been scientifically proven yet?
Do those who don't believe in God or religion have the right to spread blatant lies under the guise of free speech whenever they feel like it?
I sincerely hope this is reviewed seriously, even though I am just one ordinary user.
Look, the Religion subforum wasn't designed to be a safe space where you can't criticize religions or faith. If people want deep, faith-based discussions, we have the Theology and Religious Practice subforum for that.
Justin Harris12 said:I’ve started this thread because I need to vent about the Religion subforum.
There are several fundamental issues with the Religion section right now.
First off, the subforum itself doesn't actually function as a space for religious discussion at all. Second, there is a specific group of users who constantly poison and troll every single thread that gets opened, regardless of whether they actually know anything about the subject matter; they just fabricate nonsense, and when serious users try to refute their lies with actual evidence, they simply ignore them by doubling down on more falsehoods and repetitive mantras until the more thoughtful contributors are completely exhausted. Lately, the Religion subforum has spiraled out of control, turning into nothing more than a breeding ground for insults and endless bickering.
The third issue involves the moderator, Meadow, who openly sides with the exact group I just described while simultaneously demonstrating an undeniable intolerance toward Muslims within the subforum.
In this thread, I intend to present evidence regarding the poor moderation of the Religion subforum and how certain users, alongside Meadow, are effectively destroying it.
I’d like to remind everyone of the appeal I filed regarding the Aisha thread and how poorly it was handled; what could have been a productive discussion was completely ruined. There wasn't even a real debate in that thread from the moment it opened—just a few posts before everything was moved from another thread's off-topic section. You all took the moderator's side in that instance, and now the thread is gone; if nothing is done, this will happen to every other decent topic on the site.
Expect the same group of trolls to show up here to try and obstruct this complaint as well.
I attempted to speak with Meadow directly to explain my frustrations with her moderation style in the appropriate feedback thread, but she shut me down curtly, telling me to take my complaints exclusively to the administrator via PM and warning me not to reply to her posts again.
posts 2356, 2357, 2358, 2359
A recent example is a post by an anonymous user on a serious topic titled "The Supernatural Works of Muhammad," where they posted a caricature of Muhammad to mock him, followed immediately by a post from another user saying, "Wow, you're so wicked," accompanied by a laughing emoji.
posts 64 and 65
posts 142, 143, 163
And finally, look at the moderator's post at 147.
posts 2967, 2971, 2972, 2974, 2975, 2977
posts 369, 371, 373, 375, 380
These are just the most recent threads and posts; I have clicked the report button countless times to no avail. How long is this mockery of believers going to be permitted in the Religion subforum?
Where does the freedom of atheists end and the protection of a believer's dignity begin? Is it really acceptable to ridicule someone just because they believe in aliens, God, or anything else that hasn't been scientifically proven yet?
Do those who don't believe in God or religion have the right to spread blatant lies under the guise of free speech whenever they feel like it?
I sincerely hope this is reviewed seriously, even though I am just one ordinary user.
Now, you should definitely report Trolling, but expressing an opinion that clashes with religious teachings, questions them, or even denies them? That isn't Trolling.
Justin Harris12 said:I’ve started this thread because I need to vent about the Religion subforum.
There are several fundamental issues with the Religion section right now.
First off, the subforum itself doesn't actually function as a space for religious discussion at all. Second, there is a specific group of users who constantly poison and troll every single thread that gets opened, regardless of whether they actually know anything about the subject matter; they just fabricate nonsense, and when serious users try to refute their lies with actual evidence, they simply ignore them by doubling down on more falsehoods and repetitive mantras until the more thoughtful contributors are completely exhausted. Lately, the Religion subforum has spiraled out of control, turning into nothing more than a breeding ground for insults and endless bickering.
The third issue involves the moderator, Meadow, who openly sides with the exact group I just described while simultaneously demonstrating an undeniable intolerance toward Muslims within the subforum.
In this thread, I intend to present evidence regarding the poor moderation of the Religion subforum and how certain users, alongside Meadow, are effectively destroying it.
I’d like to remind everyone of the appeal I filed regarding the Aisha thread and how poorly it was handled; what could have been a productive discussion was completely ruined. There wasn't even a real debate in that thread from the moment it opened—just a few posts before everything was moved from another thread's off-topic section. You all took the moderator's side in that instance, and now the thread is gone; if nothing is done, this will happen to every other decent topic on the site.
Expect the same group of trolls to show up here to try and obstruct this complaint as well.
I attempted to speak with Meadow directly to explain my frustrations with her moderation style in the appropriate feedback thread, but she shut me down curtly, telling me to take my complaints exclusively to the administrator via PM and warning me not to reply to her posts again.
posts 2356, 2357, 2358, 2359
A recent example is a post by an anonymous user on a serious topic titled "The Supernatural Works of Muhammad," where they posted a caricature of Muhammad to mock him, followed immediately by a post from another user saying, "Wow, you're so wicked," accompanied by a laughing emoji.
posts 64 and 65
posts 142, 143, 163
And finally, look at the moderator's post at 147.
posts 2967, 2971, 2972, 2974, 2975, 2977
posts 369, 371, 373, 375, 380
These are just the most recent threads and posts; I have clicked the report button countless times to no avail. How long is this mockery of believers going to be permitted in the Religion subforum?
Where does the freedom of atheists end and the protection of a believer's dignity begin? Is it really acceptable to ridicule someone just because they believe in aliens, God, or anything else that hasn't been scientifically proven yet?
Do those who don't believe in God or religion have the right to spread blatant lies under the guise of free speech whenever they feel like it?
I sincerely hope this is reviewed seriously, even though I am just one ordinary user.
Honestly, Tyler Cruz32 is incredibly dedicated to the Religion subforum, and from what I've seen, there haven't been any major inconsistencies or signs of bias. I actually want to take this moment to thank her for all the hard work she puts in to keep the Religion subforum a civilized place.
Justin Harris12 said:I’ve started this thread because I need to vent about the Religion subforum.
There are several fundamental issues with the Religion section right now.
First off, the subforum itself doesn't actually function as a space for religious discussion at all. Second, there is a specific group of users who constantly poison and troll every single thread that gets opened, regardless of whether they actually know anything about the subject matter; they just fabricate nonsense, and when serious users try to refute their lies with actual evidence, they simply ignore them by doubling down on more falsehoods and repetitive mantras until the more thoughtful contributors are completely exhausted. Lately, the Religion subforum has spiraled out of control, turning into nothing more than a breeding ground for insults and endless bickering.
The third issue involves the moderator, Meadow, who openly sides with the exact group I just described while simultaneously demonstrating an undeniable intolerance toward Muslims within the subforum.
In this thread, I intend to present evidence regarding the poor moderation of the Religion subforum and how certain users, alongside Meadow, are effectively destroying it.
I’d like to remind everyone of the appeal I filed regarding the Aisha thread and how poorly it was handled; what could have been a productive discussion was completely ruined. There wasn't even a real debate in that thread from the moment it opened—just a few posts before everything was moved from another thread's off-topic section. You all took the moderator's side in that instance, and now the thread is gone; if nothing is done, this will happen to every other decent topic on the site.
Expect the same group of trolls to show up here to try and obstruct this complaint as well.
I attempted to speak with Meadow directly to explain my frustrations with her moderation style in the appropriate feedback thread, but she shut me down curtly, telling me to take my complaints exclusively to the administrator via PM and warning me not to reply to her posts again.
posts 2356, 2357, 2358, 2359
A recent example is a post by an anonymous user on a serious topic titled "The Supernatural Works of Muhammad," where they posted a caricature of Muhammad to mock him, followed immediately by a post from another user saying, "Wow, you're so wicked," accompanied by a laughing emoji.
posts 64 and 65
posts 142, 143, 163
And finally, look at the moderator's post at 147.
posts 2967, 2971, 2972, 2974, 2975, 2977
posts 369, 371, 373, 375, 380
These are just the most recent threads and posts; I have clicked the report button countless times to no avail. How long is this mockery of believers going to be permitted in the Religion subforum?
Where does the freedom of atheists end and the protection of a believer's dignity begin? Is it really acceptable to ridicule someone just because they believe in aliens, God, or anything else that hasn't been scientifically proven yet?
Do those who don't believe in God or religion have the right to spread blatant lies under the guise of free speech whenever they feel like it?
I sincerely hope this is reviewed seriously, even though I am just one ordinary user.
I really don't see any truth to your accusation that some people are getting preferential treatment over others. Tyler Cruz32 communicated with you, sure, but at the end of the day, the decision rests with her. If she makes a final call, you can't just keep reopening the same argument in a new thread. If you're truly unhappy, you should take it up with the supermoderators or the admins.
