Posts by slywolf45

brighttiger41 said:Look, honey, it’s not about lasting trauma; it’s just pure irritation. A mosquito doesn't leave you with deep psychological scars, does it? It just annoys the hell out of you—especially when it's buzzing right by your ear right before you drift off to sleep, don't you agree? 😁

We're just dissecting why things turned out this way, and besides, you said it yourself... it was just boring. 🙂

Fine, but I'm certainly not going to start a whole thread about mosquitoes.
It's pretty obvious you care significantly more about Grandma than some bug.
So, let's hear a story better than anything on Oprah:😍

(if there truly are no consequences, then this entire discussion is futile)

Lisa Lopez6 said:Come on, just admit it—you're totally leaning into one specific thing, aren't you? 😁 I mean, what else are women gonna talk about if it isn't food? 🙄

I hear you. I really do.
Well... there you have it.😁

Brenda Sanders46 said:Oh, come on, you're really digging your heels in now, aren't you?😁 It’s honestly so grating when you realize that every single time you swing by your grandma's, or your aunt's, or your husband's parents', or just visiting family in general—the second you step through that front door, the whole conversation turns into a broken record. It's just one endless loop of "no, thank you."
I read somewhere once about how when you tell someone NO, they just keep pushing and pushing, like they don't respect your boundaries at all.

Good grief... calling it Hitlerism? That’s a bit much—gave me the chills just reading it. 😬

Lisa Lopez6 said:Ugh, tell me about it. I’ve been feeling the exact same way for ages... honestly, the way she constantly tries to push her little opinions on everyone just gets under my skin. It’s so grating! 🤦
She’s basically a carbon copy of her aunt, who—let’s be real—is a billion times more exhausting than she is.

Oh, come on, let's be honest here... pretty much everything in this world gets on your nerves.😁

Kevin Flores2 said:Since my mom, dad, uncle, aunt, cousins, and basically everyone else in the family all agree with me about Grandma’s food torture, I wouldn't exactly say it's an issue of growing up, but hey, whatever works for you. 🤷

Fair enough, she was being a bit tedious about it.
Do you think all that actually left any lasting psychological scars?
I mean, we are in the psychology sub, after all, aren't we?🤷

brighttiger41 said:If you can pull it off, then it’s a win.😉

Sarcasm is practically our best friend at this point. 🙂

Kevin Flores2 said:I actually did, yeah. She basically raised me, so I don't think I ever had those kinds of issues with the rest of my family.

Well, look at that—I had the same thing.
During those years when it probably mattered most.

As a kid, I viewed it as nothing short of pure torture.
And then... then I grew up. Imagine that.☕

brighttiger41 said:Thank God my grandmother doesn't do that to me. I’ve lost count of how many times—fourteen times now!—I’ve had to sit her down and explain that I will ask when I want something, and that I really don't need her constantly offering me things. Honestly, why is it so hard to understand? ☕

It’s happened more than once. Honestly, it happens all the time. One time, I say no. Another time? I say no again. But then comes that third time—that moment when they start venting, acting like they're carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders, and suddenly... what am I supposed to do? How can I just stay silent? I end up pivoting. I shift the conversation entirely, just to get away from that heavy energy. It's the only way. 🤣

That sounds brutal.😢

I have to hand it to you, though.☕

Kevin Flores2 said:But honestly, that kind of situation can feel like absolute terror. I know from experience. 🙂 😬 Things actually started to look up a bit after I finally managed to just vent everything out during lunch one day. 🥳

Okay, I haven't quite reached that level of desperation yet (good grief, am I being serious right now? 😕), but usually, things settle down after I've made it very clear that my limit has been reached.
Anyone else here dealing with elderly relatives, or is it just me? 🤷

brighttiger41 said:Look, there is a massive difference between wanting to do something kind for someone and just being needlessly pedantic. So, what is it? Do you genuinely fail to grasp the point of this discussion, or are you just pretending you don't? 🤷

So, how exactly did you survive that absolute nightmare?
Give us the details.

Zachary Mendoza2 said:Their parents lived through the Great Depression, and those lean years stayed with them forever. 😳
We need to make sure our kids eat their fill while food is actually available, because who knows what tomorrow looks like.

Haha, what a fascinating topic...🤣

I think the bolded part hits pretty close to home.
I remember sitting across from my grandma, and she’d watch me like a hawk, gauging exactly how much food I was putting on my plate. Then came the inevitable commentary: "Is that all you're having for protein?"😢 , "Not enough mashed potatoes?"😢, or my personal favorite, "Want me to pack you a Tupperware for later?" (as if I don't have a full kitchen waiting for me at home...)

But that was just my grandma...😍

hollowtrucker77 said:Look, maybe I’m misreading the situation here, but my understanding was that they were just suspended, not actually fired or permanently replaced by new hires.
And honestly, there is a massive, night and day difference between those two things.
I actually found myself on the receiving end of a suspension once, and looking back, all I could really do was thank the decent folks at the company who basically handed me a little extra paid vacation out of it.
At the end of the day, being suspended doesn't mean you've been proven guilty of anything.

That’s certainly a possibility.
However, I could have sworn I read somewhere that the director had been ousted.
Good grief, it feels like we’re all just flying blind here without any real information...🙄😁

ogromnisticka

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Zachary Mendoza2 said:It is possible, but that would imply several other things. The professionals tasked with her "treatment" would have had to determine she wasn't using drugs as claimed, nor showing any signs of addiction. They would have had to intentionally hospitalize her knowing homosexuality was the sole issue, and they would have had to orchestrate a cover-up by signing a false diagnosis.
I am not saying it is impossible, but these details accumulate into a highly improbable scenario. If we view her story through the lens of attitudes toward HOMOSEXUALITY, sudden gaps appear and the narrative becomes quite unbelievable.

Quincy:

I know for a fact that if this happened to me, my relatives wouldn't give a damn. Seriously. Everyone looks out for themselves; nobody cares about anyone else. Gossiping is fine, but lifting a finger? That takes effort. If the emphasis here is that her parents told her relatives she was in a mental ward due to drugs, those relatives likely believed them over her. After all, they are the parents, and she is just some kid who fell in with the wrong crowd and started using. People simply don't care about others these days. Credit to the exceptions.

Fine, but what about her social circle, schoolmates, or teachers? They surely must have known she was fine—that she hadn't fallen into bad company or started using drugs. Would it really be that easy for a student to just stop showing up to school because she was institutionalized under those pretenses? And would no one ask questions or react, even by calling the police?
In reality, the only people who showed any level of humanity or social responsibility were members of lesbian advocacy groups. How convenient.👍
(Lawyers and journalists arrived later, driven by their usual motives).

Exactly.
The theory is that there was some sort of arrangement with the specialists to frame it as a drug issue. And apparently, they were all disciples of the Gruden school of thought, given he openly argues that homosexuality should be treated.
Why on earth are you acting surprised?😕

Quincy:

Alright, but what about society at large? Her classmates, her teachers? They would have had to know she was perfectly fine—that she hadn't fallen in with a bad crowd or started using substances. Would it really be that easy for a student to just vanish from school because she was institutionalized under those pretenses? Would nobody ask questions or react, even by calling the police? In reality, the only people who showed even a shred of basic human decency or social responsibility were members of lesbian advocacy groups. How convenient.👍 (The lawyers and journalists only showed up later, driven by their usual agendas).

I have to admit, parts of this story don't quite add up for me either.
But surely those hospital employees weren't fired and replaced just because of a documentary and some unproven allegations?
Or were they? I honestly don't know.🤷

Zachary Mendoza2 said:This is exactly my point. If they aren't considered mentally ill, then the entire argument about homosexuals being sent to asylums because of their orientation falls apart.
Unstable parents would have had her committed to an asylum, simply because she was left-handed or because of what Milan Vidov predicted.

Quincy:

Supposedly, they planted that on her just to flag her for something. I am unsure what can be verified as fact, but it seems certain that much of this is true if doctors are being laid off and the hospital director has been ousted. (I am referring to the one mentioned at the start of the thread, Anna.)

I am referring back to the story mentioned at the start of this thread. Unfortunately, I cannot provide more specific details regarding exactly what transpired or the reasons behind those personnel changes, as I simply lack that information. The media likely covered the situation, but I don't really follow the news much myself. 😬
I find it highly doubtful that her sexual orientation is the primary factor here. As I previously noted, we must consider the legal implications.
It also strikes me as suspicious that she spent five years institutionalized without any mention of efforts from family or friends to get her out.
Quoting:
Quincy:

My parents and sisters haven't tried to reach out, nor do I want them to. As far as I'm concerned, they no longer exist. A few months ago, my aunt dealt with some unpleasantness involving my former stepfather; he threatened her because she took my side, telling her he only has two daughters, not three. My extended family remains okay. They still support me.

Reading this article, it seems like only lesbian advocacy groups have even attempted to take action on her behalf, which makes the whole narrative feel incredibly one-sided. Naturally, the coverage is being filtered solely through the lens of her sexual orientation.
How is it possible that she didn't have anyone closer—members of LGBTQ+ advocacy groups, family, friends, or even neighbors—who would have stepped up to demand her release if she were placed in a mental health facility while perfectly sane?

But that’s not the issue here; it's because she's a lesbian.
And as a convenient cover story, they claimed she was using drugs.

Quincy:

How is it possible that this girl didn't have anyone close to her—members of LGBTQ+ advocacy groups, relatives, friends, even neighbors—who would have stepped up to fight for her release if she was actually sent to an asylum while perfectly sane?

I know for a fact that if something like this ever happened to me, my relatives wouldn't give a damn. Seriously. Everyone is out for themselves these days; it's all about self-preservation. People love to gossip, sure, but actually lifting a finger to help? That requires effort most people aren't willing to expend.

If the core of this story is that her parents told the family she was committed because of drug use and whatnot, the relatives almost certainly believed them over her. After all, they're the parents, and she's just some kid who "fell in with the wrong crowd" and started using. People simply don't care about others anymore.
Kudos to the rare exceptions, though.

Zachary Mendoza2 said:So, if they committed her for other reasons, they would be crazy. Here, however, we are trying to discuss the specific motives behind her placement. We are discussing it as if it were a rational, sane decision made by healthy people, motivated solely by the knowledge of her homosexual orientation. As if everything would be acceptable if she weren't gay, or if her parents held different views on homosexuality.

I predict this discussion will hit a landmine. Homosexuality is not an illness, and you cannot be sent to a psychiatric ward with such a diagnosis, even under a corrupt system, due to potential legal repercussions. The diagnosis would have to be something else—some medical condition that impairs a person's ability to function in society, or some state that harms the girl or those around her.
I am not fully briefed on this girl's story, but it sounds highly suspicious that she was accepted for treatment based on homosexuality. Furthermore, there are mentions of drug addiction reports.
Can we somehow confirm that everything was fine with the girl and her parents otherwise, and that she was actually sent and admitted for treatment specifically because of her homosexuality, rather than something else?

Wait, are you actually kidding me right now?
Of course I think they aren't acting normally.
I can't believe you're trying to lecture ME on this.😕

Quincy:

The diagnosis has to be something else entirely—some actual medical issue that impairs her ability to function in society, or some condition that genuinely harms her or those around her. I don't know the full details regarding this girl's situation, but the idea that she was admitted for treatment based on her homosexuality sounds incredibly suspicious to me.On top of that, there are mentions of drug addiction issues.

Supposedly, they fabricated the diagnosis just to have an excuse to lock her up.
I don't know what's fact and what's fiction here, but it seems like a significant portion of it is true, considering those doctors have been fired and the hospital director has been ousted.

(I'm referring to Anna from the start of the thread)

Zachary Mendoza2 said:That isn't the point; her orientation is merely incidental. The story highlights the inhumanity of parents toward their own child, and the cruelty of social institutions. It is entirely possible to force a healthy individual into "treatment," where they remain trapped within an institution without any way to leave or call for help. They can be subjected to torture or even murder, with the truth hidden behind closed doors. I know of cases far worse than this one, and there is much to discuss.
Given the massive elephant in the room, it feels pointless to focus on the girl being gay just to push a narrative about how homosexuals are disenfranchised or stigmatized.

No, we aren't talking about minor punishments here—things like being grounded for three days or losing computer privileges because you messed up. We are talking about the terrifying reality of parents attempting to institutionalize their children.
Because of their sexual orientation.
And that is specifically what this thread is addressing.
Sure, there are certainly enough unstable parents out there who would commit their children to institutions for various other reasons, but that isn't the focus here. Just as there are parents who resort to physical violence or sexual abuse, those are separate issues. This discussion is about this specific context.

hollowtrucker77 said:And of course, nobody ever hears about parents banning a straight kid from hanging out with certain people or groups they deem a "bad influence," right?
I don't think anyone's ever had their phone or internet access stripped away and been monitored constantly on their way to and from school just because they aren't gay.

We really need to be careful with this kind of sensationalism; leaning too hard into it is going to cause a massive backfire, and it'll end up hurting the people who are actually struggling.

You're oversimplifying the whole situation, Saš.

The crux of the matter here is that these parents are essentially looking for "treatment" specifically because of someone's sexual orientation. This isn't some teenager getting grounded for being a rebel at high school or getting caught smoking weed because they were hanging out with the wrong crowd.

redharbor9 said:Truth or not, I’ve heard a ton of stories like this firsthand—not personally, obviously, but from people close to me. And honestly? Most of them are way darker and more twisted than what you're hearing here. This kind of stuff is just everyday life in America...

Good grief, I find it hard to believe this is actually commonplace.
I can wrap my head around extreme cases popping up every now and then, but the idea that this happens with such frequency is honestly hard to swallow.

redharbor9, where on earth are you meeting people with experiences like that?🤷

rustydrifter10 said:If you don't mind being played for a fool, I honestly can't understand why the rest of us are making such a fuss. 😬

Exactly. Even Jacob Foster11 seems to be looking for a way to get taken for a ride. It feels like everyone is just waiting for their turn to get screwed over. Absolute sinners. 🙂

I’m with rustydrifter10 on this one. You could shower some people with a hundred different badges, little icons, avatars, geometric shapes, or even blast their gender in size 75 font, and it still wouldn't register. If the handle isn't something unmistakable like... I don't know, Ava Karabatić or Ante Gotovac, people just aren't going to get the hint. ☕

Betty Myers7 said:Let’s just say I get the mods—who they are, what they do, why they exist. But what exactly is the role of an Admin? (Capital A, because they occupy those high-level positions handling... whatever it is they do.) 😬

I assume you can't just apply to become an Admin.

Good grief...🤣