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stormybadger8 said:A driver and his engineer decide when to head out for qualifying...
That was Vettel and Kimi's call (or their engineers, whatever), not some big team directive...
Being first gives you the advantage, sure, but it’s also a drawback because your tires lose heat.
It all comes down to how you weigh the risks... some people nail it, others blow it.
But hey, it's easy to be a genius after the race is over.😉

Regardless, Kimi screwed up on his own by trying to muscle his way past Hamilton or Ericsson.
Once you find yourself in that spot, you damn well better make room so you can nail a proper lap.
He wasn't the only guy stuck in traffic, for crying out loud.😉

There wasn't a single moment today where I doubted they should have just waited behind the lights for the Second Quarter to start.
With the rain practically hovering over the track, tire temperature wasn't even the main issue here.

The second I saw Kimi stuck behind that Sauber, I knew things were going to get messy.
Seriously, how much of a tactically inept mess does a strategist have to be to not send Kimi out five minutes before Q2 starts just to grab a better spot on the grid? 🙏 🙏 🙏

And you know perfectly well he’s only got one shot at it. 🙏 🙏
But no—you somehow manage to slot him right behind the Sauber. 🙏 🙏
Is Lewis Hamilton leaving Ford? in Formula 1 ·
So, there you have it.
It seems our guy had his privileges for picking engineers and crew stripped away—right before his own teammate—and now he’s immediately jumping ship. I guess he just wasn't ready for an equal footing within the team—you know, where he's a partner rather than a subordinate.
How lovely. And incredibly brave, too.
Wait, what on earth is going on here—am I actually supposed to be writing in Turkish now? 😁
Let's take things one step at a time:

stormybadger8 said:nimblesurfer17—doesn't that statement "Kimi Räikkönen left enough space" strike you as a little bit contradictory?
I think it’s actually the other way around—it's probably that driver out front who decides whether to leave a gap or squeeze you out to prevent the pass in the first place! :D

Hey, did you actually get a chance to read both of my posts regarding Kimi Räikkönen's overtakes? 😁
Just to be clear—when I say "Kimi Räikkönen left enough room," I’m talking specifically about that split second when they were both entering the corner side-by-side, not the actual overtake itself. At that exact moment of entry, we didn't see any of that aggressive maneuvering where the driver on the outside—which was Kimi Räikkönen's position—basically muscle the inside driver out by forcing them wide. You know how it goes—sometimes a driver gets slapped with a penalty for that, and other times they just get away with it. But in this specific instance? Kimi Räikkönen definitely left plenty of space.

Look, I know what people will say—that Sergio Perez's situation in Monaco isn't exactly the same thing as Kimi Räikkönen's run in Singapore—and honestly, they aren't wrong. It’s definitely not apples to apples... mainly because the way these drivers actually behave behind the wheel is worlds apart.
Good grief—that’s exactly why the final result turned out so completely different!😁
It’s funny how much things change depending on where you are—in Monaco, you’ve got two stubborn mules fighting for every inch of asphalt, whereas in Singapore, the drivers are actually pretty chill and willing to play nice ;)

Of course it isn't—not even close...

It’s pretty obvious that Sergio Perez went absolutely ballistic entering Monaco—just diving into a gap that barely existed! He really pushed it there, especially since Kimi Räikkönen wasn't about to give him an inch of breathing room. In the end, Kimi basically boxed him in until the finish line—and honestly, before anyone starts pointing fingers at Sergio Perez for not leaving any space... if we're even going to draw those kinds of parallels! ;)

I mean, seriously—what on earth was he thinking, trying to squeeze into a gap that clearly wasn't there? It just seemed like such a reckless move to attempt a pass in a space that tight. 🙂 It wasn't just a close call—he was driving like a headless chicken out there. There’s a massive difference between being aggressive and being reckless. In this case, Sergio Perez didn't stand a ghost of a chance to avoid the collision once Kimi Räikkönen slammed the door shut—and honestly, Kimi had every right to defend his line. Compare that to what happened during those two overtakes in Singapore; Kimi could have easily backed off to avoid any damage to either driver, or even both of them. He just chose not to.
Kimi was just holding his line—staying perfectly on his defensive path—when that guy came flying right into him...

While we were out here at the Singapore Grand Prix, Kimi Räikkönen spotted a gap left open by the cars ahead—just a tiny bit of breathing room, really—and he seized it instantly. It was one of those moments where you realize the drivers in front weren't exactly defending their line or closing the door during the overtake... just leaving the door wide open for him to slide right through!

Did I ever actually say that the drivers weren't leaving any room for Kimi Räikkönen? 🤷
I'm not entirely sure—honestly, why they left him out there like that is anyone's guess—but I'd imagine they thought their internal racing line would be enough to keep them safe. They probably didn't think Kimi Räikkönen was going to absolutely wreck things by braking that late!

The truth is—they really could have ended up sidelining Kimi Räikkönen, and things could have gone south pretty quickly...
At the end of the day, making a move on someone requires both drivers to be on the same page—it’s all about that unspoken cooperation—and honestly, knowing exactly who you're dealing with makes all the difference ;)

Look, I’ll say it again—Kimi could have pulled out of that overtake attempt at any given second. If they had started closing the door on him, they would have been perfectly within their rights to do so, provided he hadn't already committed half the car past them. I’ve already shared my own take on why they didn't go for it—I'm just sticking to my guns there!

Sergio Perez just didn't have the chance there—he went into that move like a bull in a china shop. Honestly, he came in with so much momentum that I doubt he could have even made it through a standard corner on a local go-kart track without flying off into the grass!

Think about it this way—you’ve got someone like Sergio Perez driving through Monaco, where he’s basically playing it wild and reckless, almost as if whether he picks up points or not doesn't even cross his mind. It’s a completely different headspace compared to the championship contenders out there, who are locked in that intense, high-stakes battle for the title.
They really have to play it safe here—there’s just no point in diving headfirst into high-risk situations when you don't have to. Especially at tracks like Monaco or the Singapore Grand Prix, where any attempt at an overtake feels like a massive gamble—I mean, good grief, there isn't even half a mile of paved run-off area to catch you if things go sideways!
When you finally sit down and crunch all the numbers, the reality is pretty clear—Kimi really showed his teeth out there, pinning Sergio Perez down in Monaco. It wasn't even a contest; Fernando Alonso and Jenson Button didn't stand a chance—they basically just cleared the way.
So, the points have finally settled in—Jenson Button takes the win with 8 points, followed by Fernando Alonso with 6, and Kimi Räikkönen picking up a single point... while poor Sergio Perez ends up with nothing at all.

Look, I’ll be honest—I’m not really one to get too caught up in all those technical driving calculations... it just isn't my style.
I’ve always had a soft spot for raw, head-to-head racing—you know, those moments where drivers actually go for it instead of playing the numbers game. There's just something about that pure aggression that makes the sport what it is! Of course, I'm well aware that playing it safe can sometimes pay off brilliantly in the end—but then again, we only have to look at Fernando Alonso to see how much can be lost when you start calculating too much. Those missed championship titles still sting a bit, even now.

On the other hand, I’m pretty certain Kimi Räikkönen didn't see that collision coming at all—it just wasn't on his radar. He was holding his line perfectly, driving that defensive path exactly how he had for dozens of laps prior, clearly under the impression that the guy behind him actually knew better than to try and squeeze into a gap that simply wasn't there.
Yeah, I have to admit—Kimi really dropped the ball on that one.

And honestly—if you want my two cents—the most fascinating thing to watch is the sheer evolution of Mark Webber: from how he used to race back in the day versus how he operates now. It’s quite the transformation! ☕️
Whenever he realized there was absolutely zero chance of grabbing a title or even a podium finish, he’d just go completely rogue—it was wild! You’d see all that aggressive maneuvering and those desperate, tight closing moves, much like what you'd see from Sergio Perez or Pastor Maldonado.
Honestly, looking at the grid today—especially when there’s actually something at stake like a title or a win—you see Mark Webber out there basically running a driving school. He’s practically teaching everyone the fundamentals, like how to actually leave enough room for someone attempting an overtake, or even better, how to actually execute an overtake when there's space available! It's almost funny—I was just thinking about this over my morning coffee. ☕

Or maybe—and I mean this as a genuine thought—he just finally figured out how to handle things in a much more professional way? 🤷
Who knows? Maybe Sergio Perez will eventually figure it out—he’s still young, after all, and there's plenty of time left on the clock.

stormybadger8 said:With whom?
Sergio Perez at Monaco—now that’s a sight to see. 🤣
Honestly, if we were talking about someone like Pastor Maldonado or Romain Grosjean, they probably would have been slapped with a full race ban for that kind of stuff—haha!

Kimi was actually being perfectly reasonable when he held his ground against Sergio Perez in Monaco—honestly, he was just driving a very disciplined defensive line. It felt like Sergio Perez basically forced his way into a gap that wasn't even there!
Honestly, what kind of divine justice is that race ban? It’s enough to make me want to facepalm right here—though I'll spare you all the visual.😁
If anyone—and I’m not saying anyone specifically *deserved* it, mind you—was looking to pick up a penalty today, it would definitely be Sergio Perez.
I’ve always felt that Kimi Räikkönen is one of the most straightforward, fair drivers out there—honestly, everyone knows that—and you can see his true character from the moment he steps off the plane... though I have to say, everything about this Singapore Grand Prix has been absolutely top-tier.🙂
That day in Monaco, Sergio Perez was just driving like a complete maniac—just throwing the car around left and right without any restraint. I could almost picture Kimi Räikkönen just muttering to himself under his breath, "Alright kid, enough of that... now you're about to see what a real master looks like."

I honestly think that one really sent his blood pressure through the roof—but after everything that went down at Monaco, everyone on the grid knows exactly where things stand.
Don't go messing around with Kimi Räikkönen. 🧐 Fair and clean driving—that’s really all anyone should want, right? No drama, just pure racing. Well, just take the plunge—things have a way of working themselves out eventually! :D

That’s really the heart of the matter—if he can go wheel-to-wheel with Lewis Hamilton, inches apart, without anyone trying to bully the other off the track or slamming into a wall, then I don't see why everyone else can't do the same. It just goes to show that high-stakes racing doesn't always have to be about chaos; sometimes, it's just about pure, respectful skill.
Roger Wright94 said:I think you might have missed my point entirely.
It wasn't that Kimi left them enough room—it was that they actually gave him the space.
And honestly, I really respect that move on their part. If they had just stayed a bit more open instead of bunching up so tightly toward the right, we could have seen a collision that would have ended badly for everyone.
When you pull off a move like Kimi did, you’re essentially putting your fate in the hands of the driver you're overtaking.
It was bold, sure—but it was also incredibly tight and lucky.

Fair enough, I see what you're getting at now...
which is why I tried to highlight the difference between Perez's attempt at an overtake—if you can even call it that—and those moves Kimi made at the Singapore Grand Prix.
I suspect both Pastor and Jenson just assumed Kimi wouldn't have the guts to dive down the outside, thinking that holding the inside line would be plenty to keep him at bay.

But the part you just quoted refers to those moments when Kimi was already running parallel and they were hitting the corners together; in those spots, some drivers go full-throttle aggressive and shove anyone they're passing right off the track. Kimi, however, made sure there was enough room so nobody ended up in the gravel. He was aggressive enough to get the job done, yet respectful enough to keep things clean... a truly classy way to overtake.
stormybadger8 said:It’s hard to imagine they could have 🙂
Just like how Kimi shut down Sergio Perez, this team could have easily shut Kimi out right now—and if they had, I suspect those lovely stewards would have handed Kimi a penalty instead...
Unless, of course, the driver doing the blocking isn't someone like Perez, Maldonado, or Grosjean 😬

These aren't even comparable overtakes..☕ I mean, comparing that Sergio Perez "attempt" to overtake with what Kimi was doing..

Sergio went in there like a bull, just charging at Kimi—going all in and banking on the hope that Kimi would just back off and let him through. But the thing is, Sergio wasn't even halfway alongside Kimi's car.. he didn't stand a chance once Kimi decided to defend his line the way he did..

Back in Singapore, Kimi did everything strictly by the book.. if they had tried to squeeze him before they actually got alongside half the car, he might have avoided those potential collisions.. I suppose they just didn't expect Kimi to claim that space so quickly. Once he established himself where he was, he actually left them plenty of room to navigate the corners..

Everything was done perfectly..🙏 ☕

And honestly, handing out a penalty for "taxiing" is just total nonsense..☕
I think it might be time for me to step away from this subforum for a while..

I feel like I’m spending way too much energy—and honestly, losing my patience—trying to have a rational conversation with the Ferrari and Alonso fans here. It’s starting to feel less like a debate and more like a cult, which I think someone pointed out earlier today.. I do want to give a shout-out to the exceptions, though, like Amanda Kelly—she’s one of those rare users you can actually exchange logical arguments with, even when we don't see eye to eye on everything..

It just feels like there aren't enough people left who haven't been completely blinded by their favorite drivers or teams. It seems like most discussions have shifted toward nothing but blind worship of certain icons, usually accompanied by tearing down anyone else in their path..
Jason Campbell70 said:Let me say it again for you—☕It doesn't add any weight to what you're saying. Does it? 🙂

Yes.Four or five relevant opponents? That's the question.".

forum.hr 😂

Coming from the guy who practically invented using that exact same line...

US Forum..☕
Jason Campbell70 said:Seventeen. ☕

I know it can be tough to admit certain things...☕

Just so we’re all on the same page—Alonso drove an incredible race, truly—but it wasn't exactly a massive leap over someone like, say, Verstappen, to justify this much hype and cheering..
By the end of the day, the only people left in his wake were the guys driving significantly slower cars..

Plus, he took quite a bit of a beating from Verstappen right at the start of the race, so..🤷

Either way, if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't be celebrating him quite this loudly..☕
That was a fantastic race—really enjoyed watching that one!☕

The final showdown was quite the spectacle—even for those cars without DRS! Seeing the McLarens and Lewis-Mark battling it out like that—it really keeps you on the edge of your seat.

Huge congratulations to Jason Campbell70! Well deserved.

And of course, we can't forget about Kimi and Romain...🙏

Ferrari... honestly, where do we even begin? It’s such a rollercoaster—one minute you're riding high on pure adrenaline, and the next, you're left staring at the screen wondering how things went sideways so fast. I was chatting with a buddy of mine over coffee the other day about it, and he had the same sentiment—it's that classic mix of absolute brilliance and baffling decisions. They have all the ingredients for greatness, but sometimes it feels like they just can't quite find the right rhythm to pull it all together. Still, despite the headaches, I can't help but stay optimistic. There's just something about that scarlet livery that keeps me coming back for more!🤣

Jason Campbell70 said:FL

One person is talking about DRS, someone else is just sharing facts.

The maestro. 🙏🙏🙏

shadowstag10 said:maestro 🙏 🙏

Jason Campbell70 said:Goodness, what a driver. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Jason Campbell70 said:Why "maestro"?

Now you know. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏


Edward Howard2 said:race driver: Fernando maestro Alonso

Man, this guy is unreal. He was stuck out back with a broken car, but he fought his way all the way up to eighth place just by nailing his pit strategy. He did the whole race without even using DRS, and he was still just bullying everyone else on pure pace with those aggressive overtakes on track. 🙏

Absolute masterclass from the maestro... 🙏

🤣

Hold on—how many times did he get slapped around by the actual contenders on track today? Four? Five?

The only thing worth noting was him getting past Lewis Hamilton, but let’s be honest—Lewis was struggling big time out there today...
The rest of the race was basically just watching him weave through cars that were significantly slower than the Ferrari...
Look, you guys might not want to hear it, but it's time to face reality: the Ferrari is a damn good car this year.
I'm really looking forward to seeing Kimi take the win here..☕

I caught a rumor somewhere that they might actually stick with the hard tires this time—anyone know if that's true?
Amanda Kelly said:It’s not exactly a cakewalk (if you even win), and calling this competition a joke is a stretch.
If Kimi actually pulls this off, I’ll personally bow down and offer my sincerest congratulations.

But let's be real, he won't.
Based on what I've seen lately, Alonso and Vettel are basically neck and neck, while Kimi is a notch below them. In my opinion, those three should be the ones fighting for the title.
Lewis is another step down from that group.

Besides, Kimi's being a total brat. He didn't want to drive like this back when he was at Ferrari. He just played the part of the lazy guy.

It looks like Rebecca Fox4 was having a bit of fun around 4:00 AM...😬
I have a feeling the phrase "this ridiculous competition" was actually picked up from the football subforum...😁 It feels to me like this all really started with that little bit of back-and-forth right there on the Real-Barac line—just some unnecessary tension at the start.😁

I agree—it’s definitely worth highlighting! 🤣
I honestly think there’s a massive connection here to the team dynamic and the overall vibe—you know? It feels like Lotus has this much more relaxed atmosphere, where they aren't constantly being squeezed by endless sponsor obligations and all that corporate noise. My gut feeling is that at Ferrari, he just felt incredibly frustrated—it really seemed like he was constantly battling against the organization itself.🙂

Regarding Boldt... I have to agree with you there. Having drivers like Alonso and Seb on the grid is definitely an advantage—but let’s be honest, that’s only because their budgets and development resources are leagues ahead of what Lotus is working with. It's a different ballgame when you're comparing those massive operations to a team like Lotus.

But we aren't giving up just yet...🙂
Amanda Kelly said:My tweaks:

Alonso.
Hard to find a single thing to complain about here. He hunted down that win like a bulldog on a scent—not that he doesn't always drive like that. If you give him a decent car, like the one he had in China, beating Fernando Alonso is a tall order.

Kimi.
What an unbelievable guy. That Lotus look suits him so well that I’m actually getting worried about their pace. And with Kimi playing like this? Yeah, we're in trouble.

3. Vettel
I'm mostly on the same page as stormybadger8 here. Honestly, those pit wall calls probably cost him at least one position, if not two. To add to what stormybadger8 said, there's a good chance he could've jumped Lewis Hamilton if they'd just pulled him in for that final stop a lap earlier. It was likely right there for the taking.

Daniel Ricciardo.
Total shocker. They absolutely crushed it, from qualifying all the way to the checkered flag.

Looking at how things actually played out on the track, I honestly don't think it would be wrong to put Kimi or Ricciardo at the top of that list. Heck, they might as well just split the championship title between everyone.

you really have to be..☕😁

just like all the Ferrari and Red Bull fans... and everyone else who isn't strictly rooting for Kimi..☕

scenting a title out there..☕😁

Kimi: I am back!..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kcIWxDFTHc
Jason Campbell70 said:So, here we go.
Alonso had a great start compared to Raikkonen today. As for Kimi? He absolutely botched his launch—wheels spinning right at the lights, and then he struggled again just after shifting into second.

Last season, Alonso was consistently gaining more ground on the starting grid at the expense of Mark Webber. 😁
Just how many times did he actually screw up the start? It’s getting ridiculous.
I mean, if you look at last season, he barely even showed up three times. Anti-stall. Is there anything more frustrating? At the start. 😂

Lotus really dropped the ball here.
And they actually gave Kimi a proper apology after the race because of it...😁

Samuel Ruiz4 said:Lotus and Kimi Raikkonen are looking seriously fast... that P2 in qualifying just proves they dialed in the single-lap pace, and clearly, it worked. They were already looking solid for the race anyway. Kimi basically admitted he could've gone even faster if it wasn't for that damage... he had a winning car on him. Honestly, they look best alongside Ferrari, and it’s pretty cool seeing three different winners across three races...

Man, wouldn't it be something if Kimi ends up being the champion alongside Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso...😁

Though, personally, I'm having a blast just watching him out there on track regardless.🙏
Edward Howard2 said:I thought we settled this ages ago... Kimi won in the USA because Sebastian Vettel basically handed it to him by being incompetent and just trailing behind Sutherlands... ☕

But today, everyone is suddenly talking about how Ferrari has this monster of a car...

Fernando Alonso: 3rd -> 1st
Felipe Massa: 5th -> 6th

Back when Ferrari was actually a monster, Felipe Massa was grabbing podiums left and right without breaking a sweat. Today? He dropped a spot from where he started, and it wasn't even because of a botched pit stop or a driver error... there were drivers from five different teams finishing ahead of him...
Look, Ferrari isn't junk; it’s a solid car. But was it some unstoppable beast today? Not a chance...


Oh, absolutely...
How could I have ever been so naive as to think that Alonso was solely responsible for that win?🙂

I guess I still haven't quite grasped the "logic" here:
Kimi only wins because of other people's mistakes and a superior car, whereas Alonso wins purely through sheer talent while driving a total clunker.🙏

For instance, I suppose I *could* argue that Alonso only won today because of Kimi's collision... but I won't.☕
Because, let’s be real, Alonso, Kimi, and Lewis Hamilton all drove brilliantly today, and they ended up exactly where they earned their spots.

But man, if Alonso had driven a race like Kimi did—battling with a damaged car for 16 laps and still pulling off a result like that—I shudder to think how much this forum would be singing the Spaniard's praises.🙂
Instead, according to the critics, Kimi only pulled that off because of that Lotus-like performance from his machine.🙂
darkmarlin16 said:I mean, seriously, Fernando is basically cruising at half throttle and still pulling faster laps than everyone else 🙏 🙂

Jason Campbell70 said:Italian over the team radio.

My god, what a driver.
My god, what a team.

Maestro. 🙏

Edward Howard2 said:I'm not even pushing it, just cruising through the fastest lap 🙏

Oh man, what a Driver 🙏

Okay, I’m a bit confused here...🙂
Is Fernando an incredible Driver who can perform miracles with a beat-up old car, or is the car just absolutely phenomenal and the best one on the track right now?

I ask because—as you all so clearly taught me back when Kimi Räikkönen won in Australia—you can't have it both ways. Back then, the consensus was crystal clear: Kimi won because he had the best car, not because of his driving style... but suddenly, now, Fernando is the Great Master and all that. 🤷

Anyway, huge congrats to Fernando...🙏
Kimi 🙏 🙏
Lewis...🙏

And Jenson Button with those defensive moves...🤦
2012 Japanese GP (Suzuka) - Oct 7th in Formula 1 ·
Roger Wright94 said:Just a collection of nicknames for Kimi.
I rarely swear—and honestly, I try my best to keep it together here—but man...

I’m currently watching season 3 of Fringe—and seriously, when are they going to get to the spicy stuff? 🤷.
The whole premise is about two parallel worlds that look identical but are fundamentally different, featuring double identities. It makes me think that Max, Pila, and I were actually watching the race in one of those parallel universes. 😁
And by the way, is there anyone else here who missed it besides the guys mentioned
?

And what exactly do you three have in common?
The entire damn world! Even the folks over at RAIevac admitted Kimi wasn't at fault, yet you all keep insisting otherwise..
Down below, TBF posted proof that totally shuts down your claim that Kimi was never even halfway inside Alonso's car..
I don't quite get what you think Kimi should have done?
Should he have just moved out of the way of the infallible driver and driven onto the grass, risking a massive crash? If Alonso doesn't realize how rearview mirrors work, that's hardly Kimi's problem..
Alonso needs to chill out a bit, and honestly, so do his fans..

Roger Wright94 said:Did I say anywhere that Kimi deserved a penalty? No, it never even crossed my mind.
So, by default, it's a racing incident.
However, I still hold him responsible for the collision—meaning, I believe Kimi is the reason Alonso went off track.
Of course, there was no bad intention. But the stakes are just so high that I expect a higher level of caution and respect for others on the track.

But then the hateful claims started flying around saying Alonso was the one to blame..

Not really... it actually started with the hateful claims that Kimi was to blame and that he did it on purpose..
Go ahead, guess which hater from the forum originally pushed that narrative..☕
2012 Japanese GP (Suzuka) - Oct 7th in Formula 1 ·
Kamui..🙏 🙏 I honestly couldn't be happier for him..

That said, I’m still waiting for an apology from Fernando Alonso—he pretty much wrecked Kimi Räikkönen's race when he clipped his front wing..

Also, I have to nominate Jason Campbell70 for Troll of the Year..☕

Using a photo as "proof" that Kimi made the mistake..🙏 🙏 🙏 🤣
2012 Japanese GP (Suzuka) - Oct 7th in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Got any video or photos?

Of course you don't.

Anyway, I just finished watching the replay of the start.
At no point was Kimi Raikkonen ahead of Fernando Alonso—not even by a fraction of the car—and in all that chaos, Kimi Raikkonen caught Alonso's rear tire with his front wing.

It was pure carelessness on Kimi Raikkonen's part—just a clear case of misjudging the gap.

What a troll...🙏 🙏🤣
2012 Japanese GP (Suzuka) - Oct 7th in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Got any actual evidence to prove otherwise?

Of course you don't. 🙂

Until then👋

Claiming that Kimi Raikkonen is automatically at fault for a clean spin just because there was contact between Kim's wing and Alonso's rear left tire—and then posting an image that only proves contact happened (which nobody is even disputing!) without showing how that contact actually occurred—is nothing more than pure trolling...

But hey, seeing as you're such a huge Alonso fan, I guess this kind of behavior isn't really surprising...

Keep up the
🙂 🙂, just like your current favorite driver does...☕