Flumen-day already kicked this whole thing off by filing a formal complaint about how Bubimir handles the moderation around here. The thread was shut down before anyone could even get a decent debate going because Flumen-day—who, if you ask me, is easily one of the sharpest minds on this entire international politics board—announced he was walking away from the forum entirely and demanded we all just drop the subject.
I’m calling for a serious discussion regarding how Bubimirov handles moderation around here, because the man is playing by two different sets of rules—which, let's be honest, isn't exactly a novelty since other mods tend to pull the same stunts. It feels like Bubimirov is blatantly trampling on free speech by twisting his interpretation of the Law of the USA, and when you combine that legal gymnastics with his blatant double standards, you end up with someone like me picking up two warnings for absolutely nothing.
What’s the real story here?
Here’s my second banned post—in the first one, rowdytiger13 stepped in to play hall monitor, forbidding anyone from calling Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal or labeling any president as such.
Issuing a clear warning like that is completely nonsensical when you look at it through the lens of free speech—it’s nothing more than a blatant violation of our rights by a moderator who's clearly overstepping their bounds and abusing their position.
Every single president is a public figure, which basically means they’ve signed up to be a target for every conceivable bit of criticism imaginable, no matter how petty or personal it gets.
Actually, I see it the exact opposite way; once a president is out of office, they aren't exactly a protected public figure anymore, and they should have to deal with the same relentless scrutiny and criticism that any sitting president has to stomach under the umbrella of free speech.
Bubimir is clearly just trying to play bodyguard for Benjamin Netanyahu, but he can't quite find the right way to say that, so he settles for this half-baked phrasing instead. It makes you wonder what would happen if this same kind of "ban" were applied to every other leader on the global stage—we're talking Putin, Bashar al-Assad, even the old days with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad—it’s almost impossible to wrap your head around the level of hypocrisy we’d be dealing with.
By the way, people always forget that Benjamin Netanyahu isn't even the President; he’s just the Prime Minister.
So, Bubimir is out here pushing for more censorship, all in a desperate attempt to shield the Prime Minister whose policies are directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent civilians. You really have to step back and ask yourself what his actual endgame is here—what is he trying to hide by silencing everyone?
So, here’s why I just got slapped with my second warning under this new set of rules:
My stance isn't changing because, under the Law of the USA, libel is a legitimate criminal offense, and anyone—even a politician—has the legal standing to sue if they're being slandered. Just because someone is hiding behind a screen name doesn't give them a free pass to smear public figures. Calling someone a war criminal is an incredibly heavy accusation, and if it's baseless, it’s pure defamation. As it stands, there isn't even a legal proceeding against Benjamin Netanyahu, let alone a conviction, so until something like that actually happens, those labels are nothing more than empty noise. If people have a problem with what's being said here, they can take it up with the FBI.
If this kind of attitude were actually spread across the entire forum, it would be the death knell for the site—though honestly, I don't see much point in even trying to prove that.
Let’s break this down step by step. Bubimir basically just said, "my decision stands," which is his way of doubling down on that red card he handed me. He followed it up by claiming that under the Law of the USA, defamation is a criminal offense—and honestly, I can't argue with him there; under American law, defamation is indeed a punishable crime.
I refuse to accept the idea that calling Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal is some kind of legal act of libel—though, fine, if we’re being pedantic about it, I'll stick to saying he "may be" a war criminal to align myself with the official stance held by the United Nations.
Why?
KZ RH:
Article 149.
Who actually comes first when you're looking out for someone else? It’s the classic definition of defamation—when someone goes out of their way to spit out a blatant lie, knowing damn well it isn't true, just to drag a person's reputation through the mud. fine, they’ll slap you with a fine up to three hundred and sixty daily rates.
The point is, there isn't even a crime of defamation happening here, because frankly, I don't personally know if the claim that the Israeli Prime Minister is a war criminal is untrue. In fact, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to suspect he is—or if we want to play by the United Nations' own playbook, he might be a war criminal simply because he potentially orders war crimes. Personally, I believe Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal, and I can back that up with a mountain of evidence that doesn't just evaporate because people try to hide behind political excuses claiming civilians died only because Hamas used them as human shields. We are talking about nearly 1,000 civilians, including over 200 children.Moving on, under the Law of the USA:
Article 150.
(1) Crimes against honor and reputation are prosecuted via private complaint.
Defamation, as one of those offenses against honor and reputation, is exclusively handled through a private lawsuit, not by some arbitrary decision or official duty from a moderator on this forum.
Since nobody has filed a private lawsuit against me, there is no legal proceeding that could ever establish my liability for defamation. And if there's no proceeding, there's no defamation. Furthermore, looking at how Bubimir is handling things, it’s clear he’s completely out of his depth when it comes to the law. I’d honestly suggest this forum hire a moderator for the "World" subforum who actually understands American legal principles.Bubimirov completely missed the mark on this article because there is no defamation taking place. It’s obvious that I believe what I’m saying is true, so I am not defaming the Israeli Prime Minister.
Just to see if I'm supposedly "shaming" him, let's look at the Law of the USA:
Article 148.
(1) Anyone who, in the presence of others, makes or delivers a factual statement regarding someone that could damage their honor or reputation shall be punished by a fine of up to one hundred and eighty daily rates.
(2) Anyone who commits the act described in paragraph 1 through the press, radio, television, computer systems, networks, public gatherings, or any other means that makes it accessible to a larger number of people, shall be punished by a fine of up to three hundred and sixty daily rates.
There is no crime of shaming either, since there is no private lawsuit and because of paragraph (3) of this same article:
(3) No crime exists under paragraphs 1 or 2 if the perpetrator proves the truthfulness of the factual statements made, or if they can show they had serious reason to believe they were true while acting in good faith.
It is glaringly obvious how much this forum is suffocating free speech through Bubimirov's actions in the World section.
Thanks to the double warning from moderator Bubimirov, I find myself facing a three-day ban—an entirely baseless move intended to silence my right to free expression.
These warnings didn't do a damn thing to convince me to watch my mouth when discussing the war crimes being mass-committed by the IDF under the orders of Benjamin Netanyahu, who may well be a war criminal himself. It would actually be useful if we started a real discussion here that could serve as a lesson for moderators who are clearly legally illiterate; they probably need a law degree and maybe a basic course in common sense, but I won't go into that now.
Look, as a user here, I have every right to call Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal whenever and however I damn well please, regardless of whether there’s an indictment or a court verdict out there, because:
1. Benjamin Netanyahu hasn't filed a private lawsuit against me under any provision of the Law of the USA.
2. Even if he did, a private suit is just noise without a verdict—and since there is no verdict, we stick to the presumption of innocence, which is the bedrock of the American legal system. Anyone can sue anyone for anything, but a filing isn't a conviction.
3. There is no such thing as a criminal offense for libel or defamation in this context.
4. Nobody, not even a forum moderator, has the authority to stifle free speech by policing a public forum like this.
5. This site won't face any consequences for what I write about anything, because the platform can't be held liable for my opinions, especially since my identity is easily accessible to law enforcement or the courts should Benjamin Netanyahu ever decide to pursue me for libel. I’m posting from my personal account using an IP address registered to my actual name through AT&T, and I stand by everything I say.
What kind of circus would this forum become if these kinds of baseless, twisted interpretations of the Law of the USA were applied across the board? We'd be forced to accept that reality if the site decides that Bubimir is actually in the right.
Good luck with that...
Once this forum takes the right stance—and hopefully survives the actions of Bubimir, who is currently a serious threat to the community by trying to kick one side of the debate out of the game and stooping to such low tactics—I expect a personal apology from Bubimir, the removal of his two carrot data menu items, and the reversal of those 60 negative points.Furthermore, I strongly suggest that this moderator be barred from weaponizing the Law of the USA to crush free speech, and that the site brings in a moderator who actually understands the law, or at least someone who isn't drowning in their own ignorance.