Matthew Foster8 said:Look, don't take this the wrong way, but with an attitude like yours, you don't really have anything to do with the Black Knights. I respect you for being honest about how you feel, though—you just wrote down your truth, and if that's it, then you're basically just a casual fan. And don't go thinking you missed out on anything just because you aren't part of the core group... honestly, there are so many posers, flakes, and total losers in the Black Knights anyway. Just keep cheering for Miami, and it’s all good. It’s not your fault you think this way; I mean, you either have that mindset or you don't. It's like how I'm never going to be a biker or a skater, right?
The real issue with the Black Knights is that so many people who think exactly like you claim to be one of us.
A famous supporter used to say this legendary line: 80% of us are the real deal, and everyone else pretending to be fans? They're just a bunch of softies.
If he said that today, he'd probably say we're only 20% real, which is pretty much what the North Stand looks like these days.
It's like that classic saying: the surgery was a success, but the patient died. The group still exists, sure, but it has nothing to do with what it used to be.
I've been messing around here with these posts for a while now just because I care, and I guess we'll see how long that lasts... maybe not much longer. I'm probably the last one losing hope, but even hope runs dry eventually. This year, I actually stopped showing up to the stands altogether, and soon I might stop following what happens with the Black Knights entirely. It just hurts my soul to see what the Black Knights represent today. People from my generation, from all different groups—whether they're suburbanites or just random guys—can easily sit on the sidelines, smoke a cigarette, and feel satisfied because their legacy continued in the "right" way. But I look around and I just feel like we have this massive, slow-witted, broken child that's almost beyond saving. So, I guess the question is, how much more is it worth fighting for? Do we keep watching it suffer under pressure from every side, or do we admit defeat, realize it's unfixable, and start over from scratch? Let the kid be a disaster, I guess.
The Black Knights have had this massive identity crisis for the last 20 years regarding who they actually are. There are the real ones—the ones who get it, the true fans—and then there are the others... the casuals. Both sides have been stretching the Black Knights thin for two decades. Back in the early nineties, things stopped being pure, and then this other influence started creeping in and it's still happening today. I wonder which one will win out. We're probably the only group in the world with this specific problem, and frankly, there isn't room for both types.
The Boys are always the Boys, the Diehards are always the Diehards, the Gravediggers are always the Gravediggers... the Boys were the same in '86 and '96 as they are today, aside from changing generations and gear. But the Black Knights were one thing for ten years in the eighties, then they were just a bunch of casuals in the nineties, and then the two-thousands brought this weird mix of both, leading to this constant conflict that can't go on forever.
The Black Knights weren't founded by some bunch of college intellectuals like you're suggesting. This whole story that goes on to this day started in the early eighties, and we know the exact names and nicknames of the guys who kicked it off—guys like Kula, Uso, Prle, Maslo, Vele B., and so on. It is crystal clear what the Black Knights used to be, and what we have today has nothing to do with that. Honestly, you and a bunch of other people—maybe even the majority now—are just outsiders in this story. Short and sweet. Maybe you are the majority now, I believe you are, but we'll see how it all ends.
Yesterday, a guy with the username mmw came on from a completely different section to explain stuff that is true for every single fan section at every club with a following. A fan always knows a fan, just like a thief knows a thief or a junkie knows a junkie. It's just that nobody seems to have this much of a problem with it as the Black Knights do.
And just to wrap this up: back when I first started heading to games and traveling for away matches during the old days, the Black Knights were basically the face of all the Miami troublemakers. We were 100% pure fans, hands down—the ultimate blueprint and the strongest group in a country five times larger than the US, recognized and respected by all of Europe. Most of the respect we still carry today comes from those days. We were the group that basically invented fan culture in this part of the world.
-so you guys should really think about what you've become...
Man, look at you, just exploding with all this emotion and nostalgia, it’s wild. I’m not trying to pick a fight or anything, but seriously, it’s not the 80s anymore. Thank God it’s not even the 90s either. You’ve gotta jump back to the 2000s and stop living in some other era because that’s just the past. Let's just leave the past behind and deal with the present...
Medjutin, since you're bringing up the 80s, Bakovica, Usu, and the rest—and hey, I don't want anyone to take this personally—there was one guy who stayed active the whole damn time, and honestly, he still is. For me, personally, that's Velimiro Kralj. ☕
I just want to ask you, besides this Velimiro guy I'm mentioning, where were all the others all this time? And how long did they actually last? So, there you go...
God, when I remember the early 90s, it's unreal. Back then, after a game, it was unthinkable not to go after the Boys, the Armada, or whatever other crew showed up at the stadium. But today? Today things are different because you'll end up getting banned or losing your job or something. Basically, the way they crack down on fans has changed 100%, and that's the difference. (Though, I mean, there's always been crews ready to scrap.) Just remember how that respected moderator barely escaped with his life back in the early 90s. Nowadays, after a game, everyone just hangs out in front of the stadium and nobody even thinks about doing anything like that. It’s not because they aren't crazy, it’s just because the crackdown kills the spirit of the fans... As for who counts as a Black Knight today and who doesn't, I could write a whole book on it, but I won't, because I don't want to air all our dirty laundry here on the forum. Honestly, it's probably better this way, given how much people have started judging everyone's values on this board lately...