Posts by Linda Price5

Multi-quote

loneraven25 said:Multi-quote

...and you still haven't actually laid out any real reasons why you're so against Multi-quote.
All I can really take away from this whole thing is that your post is nothing more than a pale, washed-out shadow of Nicholas King’s legendary trolling...
Maybe I'll finally stop being so skeptical if you can actually manage to pull up even a single example where that term is mentioned? Multi-quote with both of them
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I honestly can't help but wonder what's going through their head lately. It feels like we're constantly circling the same drain with this one, doesn't it? says: Look, I get the rule itself—it’s perfectly clear what it says—but I can't help but wonder, what exactly is the point of it all? What's the underlying goal we're actually trying to achieve here?

...you clearly have no idea how to handle Quoting properly, do you?
You didn't even leave a hint in your post about where you actually pulled that quote from! Jack Bishop94 So, about that rule...
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I couldn't agree more on this point, because honestly, who does anyone think they are? No one should have the right to go back and mess with history or try to rewrite the timeline of posts that have already been laid down. Once it's written, it's set in stone.
I based my entire explanation on scanning through several consecutive posts—you know, those ones that certain forum members just can't seem to stop using all the time.
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...actually, like I was saying:
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I’m a fan of the Multi-quote feature, but I only pull the trigger when it actually makes sense for the conversation. It isn't some tool you need to deploy every single time you drop two posts in a row. If you're looking for my reasoning, feel free to take a look at this thread; I laid out my entire logic there.

You can't make Temu interesting if you aren't actually using your brain. It's a good thing I don't frequent the Cell Phone boards. 😢

loneraven25 said:...regardless of what was said above, I’m going to keep chaining my posts together one after another,
which should help prevent any less-than-talented writers from flooding the zone if the clock is ticking...
...otherwise, we run the risk of someone dumping an absolutely ridiculous amount of content in a tiny window of time...
...and honestly, doing this just makes the whole thread much easier to navigate and read through,
so I’ll continue to delete any Quoting without any prior warning,
provided that the quote refers back to a post written earlier in the thread...
(the only exception here would be the very first posts on subsequent pages)

And how exactly do you plan to account for the fact that not everyone has the same post count per page as you do? 🥳

Also, are you aware that if someone doesn't use Quoting to respond—even if they're just providing a brief sentence—several other people's posts can end up wedged between their reply and the original comment? It makes the whole thread a mess to follow.

What is the actual issue with users having more posts than the moderators feel they deserve? Is it a matter of your salary being tied to it?

Carl Sanchez40 said:Multi-quote will stay, but banning or any other kind of punishment for not following the rules shouldn't happen unless someone gets a warning first and keeps ignoring it over and over again... ☕

Why on earth would you penalize a user just because they sent two posts back-to-back? 😕

Is it because the second post they were replying to was published in that split second between them starting their reply and hitting "submit"?

Is it because they want to address one specific issue related to the main thread in one post, and then pivot to broader, related topics in a second one?

Or is it because they don't want a single massive wall of text containing quotes from ten different people, preferring instead to break their response into several logical segments?

If someone simply hasn't figured out how to use Multi-quote, the solution is easy: send them a private message with a link to the instructions.

If someone chooses not to use Multi-quote because they're busy trying to inflate their post count by spamming mindless one-liners, there’s no reason to merge those useless comments; you can just delete them.

If someone refuses to use Multi-quote because it doesn't suit their current needs, and they're being threatened for it, that feels like handing a man a hammer and then punishing him because he isn't using it. You gave him the tool. If he decides he doesn't need a hammer right now, that shouldn't be your problem. He has the hammer; he can use it if he wants to.

I don't think I quite grasp this whole concept of mass-producing posts. Is the objective really just to stifle users in their unbearable urge to inflate their post counts as much as possible?😕

Jack Bishop94 wrote to me in a total state of hysteria: "last edit Jack Bishop94 : today at 7:07 PM. Reason: MQ is explained in the rules of this PDF -> READ THEM AND FOLLOW THEM!!"

(IS ALL THIS SHOUTING WITH EXCLAMATION POINTS REALLY NECESSARY!?!?!? 😁)

The thing is, I wasn't even able to perform a Multi-quote on the specific post I was replying to in that second half of the merged post, simply because it hadn't been published yet at the moment I hit send on my first one.

To me, editing a post that my interlocutor has already read just to tack on new details—especially a full response to their point—seems rather foolish and unfair. I operate under the assumption that people have more important things to do in their lives, and certainly more productive things to do on this forum, than playing detective to see what I might have tweaked in a previous entry.

It feels quite absurd to have my posts merged and to receive such hysterical warnings about subforum rules (or the implied threat of getting a strike). 😕

For anyone truly literate, expressing themselves in writing becomes second nature—it’s automatic. It’s much like how an expert driver doesn't have to consciously think about shifting from first to second gear. 🙂

How many jobs are actually out there for construction workers who didn't finish high school?

Most people fall somewhere in the middle of the bell curve when it comes to intelligence. So, when we look at this former hospitality student who struggled, it might not simply be a matter of him lacking brainpower. If he had cognitive difficulties, he should have been provided with a tailored curriculum. If the issue was something else—like a subpar K-12 education system (which, let's face it, is a major flaw in the US; you see plenty of teenagers who struggle with basic literacy despite having decent grades because why bother mastering reading comprehension when you can just coast through English class?)—then it's probably a mistake to pin the entire failure on the individual.

I highly doubt that, say, people in Scandinavia are significantly more intelligent than Americans.

copperheron18 said:Personally, I don't believe a high school diploma is a prerequisite for many career paths. I won't sit here and list every single profession where you don't need to know English, calculus, or even the chemical formula for ethanol. In those sectors, employers aren't actually looking at your schooling; they’re looking for a willingness to work. It reminds me of those recent articles floating around the internet about how nobody in America wants to be a ranch hand or work manual labor on highway construction projects during the summer. We end up having to import labor from overseas while our own unemployment numbers stay stubbornly high... anyway, I digress, but that was my thought process.

It is also an open secret among academics that getting a job in certain fields is significantly easier if you graduated from a prep school. Honestly, you practically need deep connections just to get a foot in the door. Take a high school classroom, for instance: if a teacher threatens a pop quiz, the room goes silent instantly. No student wants a 1 or a 2 dragging down their GPA. Unfortunately, in some schools, teachers can't even use those tactics because the kids simply don't care. They'll take a failing grade just to get the teacher off their back so they don't have to show up for summer school.☕

Barbers, carpenters, HVAC technicians, tilers, chefs, servers—you name it. Not everyone needs to flock to those elite prep schools that somehow churn out graduates who can barely string a coherent sentence together in their own language. Believe me, some students actually learn things there, though it’s rare.

(Disclaimer: I have nothing against preparatory academies; my issue lies with the pedestal we put those semi-literate "elites" on. 🤦)

Just how many of these jobs exist that don't require a high school credential, and what does the annual growth look like for those positions? 🍿

copperheron18 said:Of course that’s true—I’m speaking in broad strokes here, and there are always outliers. My neighbor teaches English to a mix of students: some from four-year high schools, some specialized computer science tracks, and others in three-year vocational programs like mechanics. In the prep school classes, everything is smooth sailing; they listen, they engage, they study. Most of the tech kids are similar, though perhaps a bit more distracted, but generally polite children. But those three-year vocational kids? She gets a literal knot in her throat before class. They are incredibly arrogant and disrespectful; they refuse to do any work, yet they'll throw a fit the moment they receive a failing grade they actually deserve.

She has made it clear time and again that forcing everyone into a traditional high school track is pointless. For many, it simply doesn't fit. What is the purpose of pushing everyone toward a diploma if there is absolutely no substance behind it?

I couldn't agree more. 😢 Moderator, you surely recognize how incredibly frustrating this entire situation is for me, don't you? 😁

And honestly, what would you suggest we do with people who refuse to even finish high school—or your next-door neighbor, for that matter? Should the rest of us just foot an eightfold increase in our tax bills just so they can subsist on welfare?

Or perhaps you'd prefer to line them up in front of a firing squad?

copperheron18 said:Look, there is a massive gap between what happened 30 or 40 years ago and what is happening today; any rational person can see that. Back in the day, a professor was highly respected—a doctor was even more so. People used to bring gifts (bribes, let's call them 😁) because those professions were held in the highest esteem. You had the elite tier: the teacher, the doctor, the lawyer. You simply cannot compare the past to the present while my sister-in-law is working now. So much has shifted in the interim—economic instability, social shifts—which has left many people on edge, causing them to lash out at anyone within reach. The current state of society is just different, and while it affects teachers heavily because they deal with such diverse groups, it isn't limited to them.

It is not the same thing to be a teacher at a prestigious prep school where the kids are decent, actually want to learn, pay attention, care about their grades, and come from educated, cultured families. It's an entirely different universe compared to teaching at a three-year vocational school populated mostly by delinquents who lack basic vocabulary, manners, or any sense of decorum.

Middle schools are essentially a volatile mix of both extremes, and no one can dispute that. Being a teacher at a top-tier academy (specifically the one I attended, though many others are similar) is, in my opinion, a fantastic career. But being a teacher at some vocational school (I won't name names to avoid offense) is 🙂

Forgive me, I know I’m drifting off-topic here, but which specific high school are we talking about, and is the same instructor still teaching English? I suspect there are people in this group who actually give a damn about their children graduating with even a modicum of literacy.

Jeffrey Cook55 said:The state of our education system boils down to three main drivers:
1) the structure of the educational system itself
2) the teachers and professors (and yes, let's include preschool teachers too)
3) today's kids and their parents

Now, I’m not saying everything about these three elements is broken, but if we need to change things, we definitely do.

Sure, there are some truly terrible teachers out there—people who don't care about the job, lack basic decency, and act like a cancer within the system. But there are also plenty of educators who give it their all despite every obstacle in their way.

But you can't ignore what kids are like nowadays. I know this from firsthand experience because I used to work in a school. A huge number of them do absolutely zero work at home. Even if you give them the exact same practice problems an hour before a test, they still can't solve them during the exam. To me, that just shows that we, as parents, have raised them to be lazy. Meanwhile, a ton of parents seem to think teachers should use magic wands to download knowledge directly into their children's brains, otherwise, they're deemed incompetent. They completely forget that old truth: nothing worth having comes without hard work. And honestly, that goes for those lazy professors, too.

Then there’s the blatant lack of respect younger people show toward their elders. It isn't just happening in schools; it's everywhere. I had the "honor" of being on a packed subway once, standing right next to two younger students while an elderly man approached them. He said to another passenger loud enough for them to hear, "And here I thought the customs in New York City were the same as they are back in St. Louis—that the younger generation gives up their seats for the older ones." The girls just laughed it off, stared at him, and did nothing. They kept sitting there next to the old man for another ten minutes until they reached their stop. You know that feeling when you feel embarrassed on behalf of someone else? Well, I felt second-hand embarrassment for their behavior, even if I wasn't the one blushing. We see this kind of thing in public every single day, so it’s no wonder we see it in the classroom too.

Personally, I would have kept sitting, too. I have absolutely no intention of rewarding someone else's passive aggression. 🙂

wiredmarlin33 said:I went with the "Yeah, I’ll stare at it all day, she’s gorgeous, I need her!" option because, honestly, it’s the only one that sounds sufficiently sarcastic...

At first, I didn't even realize what was actually going on—and I'm sure plenty of others were just as lost as I was. But after this stunt? Pretty much everyone is going to start blocking ads. I mean, if they don't start charging us specifically for using an adblocker, there won't be much left to block anyway. 🙂

Me too. 😁 It’s particularly hilarious seeing half of one image and half of another on my laptop screen—one labeled "iPhone 4 is the smallest phone ever" and the other "Nokia new model."

Good grief, you'd think a bunch of toddlers put this together.

But if I do that, the notification only hits the moderators of that specific subforum, and since he’s been spamming multiple different sections, I figured I’d actually try to be helpful for once in my life. 😳
Anyway, if you want to handle it your way, that's fine too. Thanks. 😁

Why on earth is there a mandatory one-minute cooldown between reports? I was trying to flag all his spam posts so they wouldn't slip through the cracks once he's finally banned, but apparently, doing that is going to cost me ten minutes of my precious life. 😁

First off, why should we have any faith in the intelligence of the people lurking in this thread?

The benefit of the doubt. It’s really the only thing left for these Forum users to cling to.

Jason Morgan. If you don't trust the basic intelligence of the people on your subforum, and you're apparently allergic to even the most obvious irony posted there (which is a moderator's call that I'm not even disputing right now), then why aren't you deleting the blatant misinformation? I'm talking about the stuff that doesn't scream "I'm being ironic," but instead carries that "I know exactly what I'm talking about, I am an expert, just listen to me" vibe.

Anyway, shoot me a PM. 😁 We're already off-topic here.

Sure, the second one is clearly sarcasm, while the first is blatant misinformation that could actually cause harm. I don't quite grasp the logic where obvious irony gets a red card, yet you leave disinformation untouched. My point isn't that people should be punished for being uninformed, but if you insist that this topic remains strictly educational and there's no room for irony, then how is there room for inaccuracies?

I never said, "GIVE THE BITCH A RED CARD, SHE'S LYING," and if you think I did... well, I don't know, maybe try reading it again? I was simply curious, since you brought up those sexual education basics.

So, I’ve come to a realization. Next time I feel the urge to take someone down a notch, I’ll just provide a piece of incorrect information instead of using blatant irony. That way, I won't end up getting a red card. Thanks for the tip.

Chloe Green61 said:Leaving a comment like that on a thread about sexual education basics—specifically when someone asks a direct question about, say, condoms or a yeast infection—is a completely different matter.

I have a question. 😁 What about misinformation on the sexual education basics topic? If you claim the world's most famous gynecologists are all working at the IMF, you'll get flagged. But if you suggest an antifungal for a bacterial infection, that post just sits there, proudly displayed.

In my view, misinformation presented as factual advice is far more damaging than an ironic response to someone asking a silly question.

Look, if we’re going to be this concerned about the reproductive health of people who can't detect irony, why aren't we equally concerned about the reproductive health of people who simply don't understand medical topics?

Byron, forgive my off-topic intrusion. 😁

wanderingbadger44 said:So, according to your logic, if you provide a reason for an account suspension, you're somehow entitled to call a female user a fat, insecure attention-seeking idiot?

How charming.

Mind you, I didn't even ask for an explanation regarding the ban. 😁 It seems reading comprehension is a bit of a struggle for you, isn't it? 😍

wiredfalcon2 said:You're the one who judged me as being super cool, which I am definitely not. 🙂 Thanks for the compliment. 🙂

No, honey, I actually labeled you as a complete and utter moron who mistakenly believes they're "cool" while being absolutely pathetic. There is a significant distinction there. 🙂

It is truly unfortunate that you seem just intelligent enough to avoid being a total idiot. But no. If it’s all the same to you... 😍