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Linda Harris44 Asks:
Kimberly Ward has started making these weirdly pointed insults toward me about not having kids, which is just bizarre because I haven't even brought the subject up once in our conversations. It feels like it came completely out of left field.
I honestly can't quite wrap my head around how my kids' inheritance has anything to do with comparing the prices of plant-based spreads. I guess I'm just missing the connection here.

That’s exactly right, and I believe the links provided make everything perfectly clear. If you take a look at them, the evidence really speaks for itself.

To be perfectly honest, I’m struggling to wrap my head around this one. I truly can't fathom what your children—or anyone else's children, for that matter—have to do with the discussion regarding plant-based spreads that we were having at the time. It seems like a bit of a non sequitur, doesn't it? 😵

Linda Harris44 said:I don't hold a grudge against Kimberly Ward, personally. In my view, the focus should really be on sanctioning those individuals who spend their days tearing down the PDF Alternative through constant Insults—which, if you look at the examples Ethan Barrett22 laid out, is clearly what's happening here.

I have to agree here. It seems to me that Kimberly Ward was simply looking for an excuse to manufacture some kind of wrongdoing against people who, frankly, deal with insults on a daily basis—which, if you look at the links provided, is pretty much everyone involved.

I hadn't quite realized that it was on. Topics Does anyone remember which specific thread Kimberly Ward opened back in the day? And more importantly, did anyone here actually end up taking her side? Because of all the insults that were thrown her way. I’m a bit lost—could someone please point me toward which topic we're discussing here and who exactly started this thread? 🤷
Even Mark Cruz15 didn't hesitate; he jumped in to reply almost immediately:

If you would just stop spreading such toxic propaganda, maybe then people would stop insulting you.

By acting that way, he essentially just gave his blessing to the very people who are hurling insults at him.
It’s honestly quite pathetic. He’s so obsessed with maintaining this sense of "order" that he actually went out of his way to start a thread in her name, only to inadvertently prove that Kimberly Ward was the one actually hurling insults at another member regarding her inability to have children. 🍿

Arthur Smith15 said:... perhaps it's because the Food & Dining section isn't exactly the place for articles about miracle seeds that cure cancer, or deep dives into how the molecular structure of blood supposedly mimics carrot juice. It’s certainly not meant for those basic "recipes" where charlatans and quacks write about blending beets and carrots, while overly eager proponents of the Alternative lifestyle faint from excitement over how wonderful it is...

The Food & Dining section is intended specifically for that last part—discussing nutrition and meals, sharing recipes, and things of that nature.
Writing about medical treatments there just doesn't make sense; it would be completely off-topic. As someone else pointed out earlier, it's a bit like trying to host a seminar on landing on the Moon in a cooking class.
That's simply not what this subforum is for.

There are other subforums dedicated to illnesses, health, and medical treatments—some even have it right there in the title. 🍿

Linda Harris44 said:Over on the gastronomy boards, none of them ever bother to ask "what's the point of chopping up kale and beets for a salad?" the way they snarkily question almost every recipe Ethan Barrett22 posts here.

It’s interesting, isn't it? They don't even bat an eye there, whereas over on Alternative, they launch these hostile, incredibly blunt insults at my posts—and everyone else's, too.
I honestly wouldn't know how to explain the discrepancy. 🤷

I wonder if they might have an answer for that? 🍿

Linda Harris44 said:The comments range from asking why anyone bothers posting recipes when you can just find everything on Google, to questioning the wisdom of making a specific dish, whether raw cacao is available, the origin of agave syrup, or why certain organic ingredients aren't sourced locally within the States.

Who knows why they don't bring any of that scrutiny to the gastronomy section? ☕
That said, the idea is sound; we really should be contributing more there, since it’s such an excellent sub-forum. 👍

I promised to share some more links regarding those instances of Insult, so here is a small collection I’ve managed to pull together quickly before work calls me back in.
I see that stormyrider28 has already gone ahead and cited some of the links I was planning to share, so I think I'll spare us all the repetition and just leave them be.

Jerry White29 Asks:
It seems to me that there isn't much of anything new happening around here lately. It honestly feels like we’re still being surrounded by nothing but people with an IQ of about 10. It’s becoming a bit much, isn't it?, a Well, look who finally decided to show up. Benny's back, and honestly, he’s being an absolute clown....

Jerry White29 said:Ethan Barrett22, I suppose there’s a certain way to describe that specific type of woman—someone who just seems to swallow everything whole, whether it's information, emotions, or perhaps even the occasional bit of nonsense thrown her way. It’s an interesting observation, I guess. She doesn't exactly push back or cause a scene; she just absorbs it all. Maybe it's a survival mechanism, or maybe she's just remarkably patient, though I suspect it might be a little bit of both. It's a peculiar quality to witness, really. I believe she actually wrote about that herself.Honestly, I think Ethan Brooks59 was just repeating what she said...

Jerry White29 said:And why wouldn't they? I suppose there might be some cases where someone has wealthy parents who are more than willing to provide for them. The real issue here—and I think we can all agree on this—is that he’s just plain dim. It isn't even about his intentions or the specific circumstances; it's simply that the guy lacks any real depth or mental sharpness. I guess you could say his lack of intellect is the fundamental hurdle we're dealing with. It’s just that he doesn't seem to grasp it, does he? He really hasn't caught on to the fact that... Because he can't land a job, he's struggling to find a partner, and honestly, he seems completely miserable and frustrated because of it.
The real question here is whether he’s even interested in women at all. If we’re judging solely by the posts Ethan Barrett22 writes to the doctor and the Guru, I’d say his focus seems much more centered on men.
No, look, we’re actually quite liberal, and... Look, I don't really care about someone's sexual orientation. That’s not my business. What actually matters to me—and I think it matters to most people—is whether they have a fundamental lack of integrity. As long as they aren't a "character" failure, we're fine.
It’s coming down...

Biljka112 As Mark Cruz15 said:There’s nothing quite like watching someone try to play the intellectual heavyweight, only to end up looking even more foolish than they did before they opened their mouth. It’s a special kind of comedy, really.

Biljka112 The user said:I suppose they simply don't have anything to think about.

Biljka112 Asks:
Since you haven't bothered to answer a single one of my questions... I suppose I’ll go ahead and declare you incompetent—and if things continue this way, I might just have to label you foolish as well.
It seems like you’re constantly churning out nothing but absolute nonsense. I’ve come to the conclusion that you might actually be an idiot.

Biljka112 Mark Cruz15 said:It’s 4:00 AM, an hour when most decent, sane people are deep in sleep, but then there's us. Honestly, it feels like GNU is just wandering aimlessly through the forums lately. It’s a bit much, if you ask me.
Are you seriously that dense? So, is your only real talent twisting people's arguments to suit your narrative?

Biljka112 said:What an absolute fool.Honestly, you seem to find the very concept of knowledge to be a joke. I suppose that explains why you were kicked out of school in the first place—you couldn't stop laughing at everything.

Biljka112 Asks:
GNU, You’re being quite silly and honestly, a bit rude.

Biljka112 Asks:
I suppose you’re going to take offense if I tell you that you're acting like a complete chicken. Because, honestly, I don't have any clones.

Biljka112 Asks:
What a total Bilmez!

Biljka112 said:He isn't just acting foolish; he actually is an idiot.

Biljka112 said:You are being completely ridiculous!
I find it quite bold of you to lecture anyone on being coherent when you aren't even making sense yourself; frankly, your input carries zero weight here. Besides, nobody even knows who you are.
And as far as being a psychologist goes, you're pretty terrible at it; I don't see any rage or sadness, just a whole bunch of rude idiots.

Biljka112 said:Bilmez doesn't understand how or why hypertension occurs, let alone how to treat it.
That's why he's posting such nonsense.

Biljka112 said:She doesn't need jail; she needs a psychiatric ward.

Biljka112 said:Ethan Barrett22, if someone as clueless as you can't even grasp the concept of fangs, how on earth are you supposed to believe people have been to the
Moon?

Biljka112 said:GNU, you're clearly too limited to wrap your head around the world around you.
The fact that you think Lydia G. is okay is just further proof of that limitation.

Biljka112 said:Ethan Barrett22, there’s really no need to keep insisting you’re being foolish, ...

Biljka112 said:Ethan Barrett22, if you’re going to quote me, at least provide some context. Of course, someone as dim-witted as you probably won't be able to grasp the point of what was said.
In your desperate attempt to look smart, you just end up looking completely ridiculous.

Biljka112 said:Look at him, acting like he isn't clueless and dense while rambling on about a lack of knowledge.
Ethan Barrett, you are practically the textbook definition of ignorance.

Biljka112 said:Listen to this whining!

Biljka112 said:He isn't pretending to be stupid. He actually is. And quite significantly so.

Well, as can be seen from the various quotes here and in previous posts, we are dealing with just three particularly problematic users whose entire history on this forum follows this exact pattern.

These insults from them have been ongoing ever since moderation stopped [/B] (a strange coincidence, don't you think? 😉) across all threads and directed at all users (as evidenced by the attached), and it's a rare occurrence to see a post from them that doesn't contain some form of insult.

So, I would kindly ask the site administration to take a look at this. 🍿

I honestly don't see what the issue is here, except for maybe Kimberly Ward’s incredibly obvious mockery of Linda Harris44, who has made her stance clear on two separate occasions.

If you look at the quote provided by Sophia Fowler44, it's evident that Kimberly Ward was making a very pointed and direct jab at Linda Harris44 regarding her not having children—something no one had even brought up to her previously.>
That seems to be the core of the mockery, and it was quite blatant. She doubled down immediately after, moving straight into an Insult, as evidenced by the quote Sophia Fowler44 shared above.

I'm not entirely sure where she got the idea that Linda Harris44 doesn't have kids (and frankly, why would anyone care?), because I don't recall her ever mentioning anything about that, at least not in any of the threads I follow 🤷. Meanwhile, Kimberly Ward mentioned she didn't have children about five or six months ago (which I've quoted above, and which you also noted across about ten different threads you track). So, if she didn't have them six months ago, it’s entirely possible she has them now.

Ultimately, whether Kimberly Ward has children or not—or if we follow your logic that she simply *can't* have them—wouldn't it be completely nonsensical and contradictory for her to mock another woman for lacking them? It just doesn't track. A person wouldn't typically resort to that kind of taunt unless they actually had children themselves or were planning to have them.
I think you'll agree there's absolutely no logic to that line of reasoning.

Chloe Brooks said:http://www.example-forum-link.com/thread/1147485

The link you shared is actually quite interesting because it points to the exact thread Kimberly Ward just started after she was insulted, which is pretty obvious from her opening post.
If she were feeling genuinely targeted, wouldn't it make sense that she’d be the one to start a thread about it? 🤷

I don't quite get this sudden wave of concern and legalistic defense for Kimberly Ward, especially since it’s coming from the very same people who were mocking and ridiculing her in her original complaint thread...
In fact, the person who started this whole thing, Mark Cruz15, replied to her almost immediately on that thread (if you check the second post):

Stop spreading this sick propaganda and maybe nobody will bother insulting you.

...which, I suppose, makes it pretty clear he’s essentially condoning the insults, given his reasoning that "Kimberly Ward is spreading sick propaganda." 🤦

And looking at what Sophia Fowler44 posted— it turns out Kimberly Ward was actually the one who initially provoked Linda Harris44 by making comments about her not having children, an accusation she even repeated in a subsequent post...

Chloe Brooks said:What was the actual outcome of these linked threads? Was anyone actually sanctioned?

Nothing happened. But I guess the question is, what point are you trying to make? What are we even doing here if that's the case?

Chloe Brooks said:Oh, please, spare the audience.

How did the other PZK threads even end up?

You just spammed links and practically talked yourself out of being ignored (and you aren't even following their actual work), posting the same people who "Insult" others for the hundredth time, only for the supermoderator to close everything down and leave things exactly as they were.

Nothing is ever going to change, so there's really no point in you doing this.

I would actually ask you to spare the audience.
Spamming on the PZK boards is precisely what happens when someone makes a claim without providing concrete evidence—like a link—which is exactly what you and the others are doing. Personally, whenever I make a statement, I provide a link to back it up and prove my point.

As for how those other threads ended?
I have no idea which ones you're referring to since there isn't a link provided.

If nothing is ever going to change, as you claim, then I don't see why we're even debating here in the first place.

Chloe Brooks said:Let’s be honest here—there’s an Insult coming from both sides, and that’s just the reality of the situation.

Regarding the whole question of children, here’s how it all started:

It looks like Linda Harris44 and Sophia Fowler44 have decided to join the fray as well.

Knowing that this was written by one of our fellow forum members:

I honestly think we need to take a step back and look at this more objectively. It’s easy to get swept up in the immediate intensity of these debates, but if you really sit with the arguments being presented, there’s a certain level of nuance that seems to be getting lost in the noise. I was reading through some of the points made by Mark Cruz15 earlier, and while I see where he's coming from, I can't help but feel that his perspective might be a bit too narrow for the scope of what we're actually discussing here. Maybe it's just me, but I suspect there are layers to this situation that aren't being fully accounted for in the current discourse. Then you have the comments from Arthur Smith15, which were certainly passionate, but perhaps a little too reactive. It feels like we're oscillating between extreme skepticism and total acceptance without much middle ground. I guess what I'm trying to say is that there's a vast gray area in between these two poles that deserves our attention. I mean, if we look at how similar issues have been handled in major cities like Chicago or New York, we can see that the outcome usually depends on how well the underlying complexities are managed—not just on the loudest voices in the room. We should probably aim for that kind of analytical depth if we want to actually reach any meaningful conclusions. It’s worth considering whether we are focusing on the symptoms rather than the actual cause. Perhaps we should slow down a bit before jumping to any final judgments.

I suppose there’s some merit to what Ethan Barrett22 is suggesting, though I can’t say I’m entirely convinced. It feels like we might be overcomplicating things, perhaps even looking at the problem through a lens that doesn't quite fit the reality of how these systems actually function here in the States. Maybe I’m being too cautious, but I have a nagging feeling that if we follow that specific line of reasoning, we might end up chasing our tails. There’s a certain elegance to the theory, I'll grant you that, but in practice? It seems a bit detached from the messy, unpredictable nature of things. I guess it's easy to build these perfect models on paper, but once you introduce actual variables—real-world friction—the whole thing tends to wobble. I’m curious, though, if anyone else feels this slight disconnect. Is it just me being overly skeptical, or does anyone else sense that we might be missing a crucial piece of the puzzle? I'd love to hear more thoughts on this, provided they aren't just reinforcing the same assumptions we've already debated.

I honestly missed that entirely, mostly because I haven't once in my life felt the need to open the specific thread where those last two posts were living.
I noticed that in the recent discussion regarding vaccinations, someone mentioned that there aren't any children present.

Kimberly Ward said:P.S. On the other hand, I suppose you could say I’ve never been much for the whole dating scene. I guess I just haven't felt the need to jump into it.Personally, I think the idea of pregnancy would be far too much of a risk for me.

So, anyway, He doesn't actually say anywhere that he can't have children. It seems like she hasn't had them for quite some time now. 🤷

Chloe Brooks said:Honestly, we might as well just lean into it and start posting more frequently in these threads, especially since it seems like the moderation isn't really doing much to keep things in check anyway.

If we're being honest, we might as well just shut down this entire subforum altogether, given that there's absolutely zero moderation happening here. And honestly, I don't think it stops at just this section; it seems like several other boards are currently sitting in the same state of neglect without any moderators at all. 😉

So, let me get this straight: if someone throws out a completely baseless accusation on a thread that isn't even being moderated, we’re just supposed to shut the whole thing down immediately? It feels like if anyone makes even the slightest, most unfounded allegation, the entire discussion should just be killed off right then and there. Is that really how this works? 🤦
And what exactly would that achieve? It’s likely the same group of people will just move over to different threads within the subforum anyway. 😁

If we’re following that line of reasoning, we might as well just shut down this entire subforum right now. It’s become an absolute minefield of insults, driven by the same handful of users who seem to think a lack of moderation is a green light to vent their hostility every single day. I’ve already pointed out several instances of this behavior above, and honestly, more is bound to surface shortly. ☕

Wouldn't it be much simpler to just sanction those few individuals and have the whole mess sorted out in the blink of an eye?
I mean, why should we even consider downgrading the entire forum or sub-forum just because of three or four people who spend their time being relentlessly rude to everyone else and practically never post anything that isn't a blatant insult?
If that had actually been done, none of this situation would even be happening right now.

As for everything else—without any links provided, the whole argument feels pretty hollow.

From what I can see, there isn't any evidence that anyone has actually insulted her while she was busy hurling insults at other users , as demonstrated by the examples provided below. 🤷

Furthermore, she never actually claimed that she couldn't have children—at least, I haven't seen her say anything like that anywhere. I mean, I don't know, where are you getting that from?

So, I have to ask— why are you making things up?
And why on earth are you stepping in to act as her defense attorney? Can't she just start her own thread if she feels it's necessary?

Also, since you've gone ahead and cited those points above—even though they aren't even insults—why didn't you mention Kimberly Ward's direct insults toward other members?

Kimberly Ward said:Oh right, it’s pretty obvious your brain cells are basically mush.

There are more patients here than there are doctors.

Kimberly Ward said:I thought you were smarter.You clearly can't see how fools are playing you and "mocking" you in such a snide, sarcastic way.

Kimberly Ward said:You really are an idiot.You're just now showing up.If I were you, I'd pack up and move out to the middle of nowhere where you belong.

Kimberly Ward said:But since you can't see past your own nose, that's your problem. I'm not the one getting offended, you're the one acting sensitive, probably because you haven't had enough attention lately.

Kimberly Ward said:Oh yes,I just love smart-alecks like you, trying to lecture everyone else on how things work,when they clearly lack any real substance of their own—probably because they have such deep-seated insecurities that they felt the need to major in psychology.>And yet, here they are, peddling wisdom to others.>In reality, they’re about as bright as a broken lightbulb; it’s almost a shame to compare them to animals.>[/I]

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Kimberly Ward said:Y

Oh, please,you hypocrite. . You’ve really just demonstrated exactly how clueless you are right here.

Furthermore, she actually went and dug into a user's private medical history, which is a massive violation of the rules:

Kimberly Ward said:I don't want to make Ego upset, but the man is a heart transplant recipient.If he doesn't get his flu shot, the mortality risk is incredibly high for him.

Also, since you’re calling this topic user harassment, what do you have to say about your own track record regarding that, and how do you justify all these
Insults
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Mark Cruz15says: They only have guesswork to fall back on because they simply don't have the intellectual capacity to grasp anything more complex than basic physics. I won't dive into other conspiracy theories since you can't generalize those, but if you want to be a theorist in this group, you either have to be a complete idiot or a troll. And if everyone is a troll, then what are we supposed to think about the trolls who stick around for years, constantly squawking about the exact moment Ringo gets an erection/? That's why, honestly, I find myself hoping they're just dim-witted. Mark Cruz15 said:Maca literally wrote out a full explanation for him just two posts ago. See, GNU / China, this is why we all think you're lacking the necessary mental bandwidth. 😁 ♡ Mark Cruz15 said:I was actually considering starting a whole new thread over on the PZK forums... maybe that would be better. Honestly, someone really ought to consider banning these people. Idiots. Mark Cruz15 said:God damn it.Honestly, just stop bothering me. 🤦 Jesus Christ. Mark Cruz15 said:GNU, I suppose we should probably address the elephant in the room regarding that unemployed individual.I suppose I should probably attempt to put together a CV. It feels like one of those tasks that sounds straightforward on paper but becomes an exercise in self-reflection—and perhaps a bit of strategic exaggeration—once you actually sit down to do it. Writing out your own history can be a rather daunting affair, even if you're just trying to summarize your professional journey in a way that doesn't sound entirely boastful or, conversely, completely underwhelming. I might give it a shot, though I suspect the process will involve more staring at a blank cursor than actual typing. Mark Cruz15 said:I honestly can't even begin to describe how much I despise that person; they can just go straight to hell.I'll be reporting this post to you for trolling. ☕ Mark Cruz15 said:God damn it.I happened to stumble upon some of your old posts from March 2018 recently—the ones where you were actually announcing your departure from the forum. Mark Cruz15 Mark Cruz15 said:Ethan Barrett22, I have to say, you seem to be inching closer and closer to the heavy hitters with that combination of sheer ignorance and constant trolling. It’s almost impressive, in a way, though perhaps a bit reckless. You're getting awfully close to overtaking Bonea—you might even catch up to GNU or China at this rate.I find myself wondering if it’s even physically possible to descend any further than the absolute bottom—that dark, hollow place where Ringo resides.). 🤷 ...or this whole culture of insulting users and constant trolling: Mark Cruz15 Asks: [I]GNU / China, I suppose we’re looking at someone who is currently between jobs.Well, three hours have already slipped by. Write, sleep. Mark Cruz15 The user said:Look, GNU, nobody actually believes you have a brother, let alone that he managed to lose all that weight. You're just wasting your breath. I’d much rather spend my time focusing on polishing up a CV. Mark Cruz15 Asks: Sure, twisting someone else's words around might be just the kick in the pants you need to finally get off the couch. I suppose one should really take a moment to be grateful for the teams that make our modern lives possible—you know, the people ensuring your high-speed internet actually works and everything else stays running smoothly. It’s easy to take it for granted, but honestly, we owe them a debt of gratitude just for existing. But things won't always stay this way, I suppose. Mark Cruz15 Asks: I actually came across a construction site out in Southern California the other day.He’s been MIA from the forum for five days now. Honestly, I ended up getting into a massive argument with my boss because of him. 🤦 Mark Cruz15 Asks: Well, I suppose that’s all there is to it. I honestly feel like spraying this entire subforum with Raid Max might be my only hope, though I have a nagging suspicion that even that wouldn't be enough to actually drive you all away.☕ And finally, regarding the matter of user harassment—specifically when it crosses the line into outright insults—I’ll be posting a massive collection of links shortly that document everything. It seems we’re once again dealing with those same few users who seem to find such joy in hurling constant, incredibly blunt insults at others. It's become a bit of a predictable pattern, really.I have to say, I’m honestly baffled by how Mark Cruz15 somehow managed to miss the whole thing. He didn't even give them a mention, which is pretty wild considering there are blatant, everyday insults tucked into basically every single post they write. 😉 Don't go thinking for a second that I'm joking around here. Here are just a few of the most recent examples, provided quite quickly: Arthur Smith15 said:... Honestly, this person is just completely losing their mind. I was just thinking about the ongoing debate between Guru and Ginger regarding pepper and the whole blending process. It’s one of those topics that seems simple on the surface, but once you start digging into the nuances of flavor profiles and texture, things get surprisingly complicated. I suppose there isn't really a single "correct" way to approach it, which is probably why the discussion keeps circling back to the same points. On one hand, you have the argument for preserving the integrity of the spice, and on the other, the idea that blending creates a more cohesive, integrated experience. Personally, I find myself caught somewhere in the middle. Maybe it depends entirely on what you're trying to achieve with the dish, though I suspect both sides have some valid points if you look closely enough. It's an interesting little tug-of-war, really. So, where have all you Alternative crowd members disappeared to? I feel like things have gotten a little out of hand here. It seems like everyone’s lost their grip on the situation just a touch. I suppose if we’re being honest, things have started to feel a bit chaotic lately. It feels like everything is spiraling just a touch too fast, doesn't it? I mean, maybe I'm just overthinking things—it's probably just my own tendency to dwell—but there's definitely a sense of madness creeping into the periphery of our daily lives. It's that strange, unsettling feeling where the usual rules don't seem to apply anymore. I guess we're all just trying to find some semblance of order in the middle of it all.And what about her? When she persistently lied and claimed I had written somewhere that I was some kind of "fascist," you all just went ahead and egged her on. Absolute trash, spearheaded by that absolute disaster known as Ethan Barrett22... Jerry White29 Asks: Just making sure this doesn't slip my mind. "Real Life She can’t even point to a single instance where Arthur Smith15 actually called himself a fascist or a Nazi, because she completely made it up. Honestly, she's just a flat-out liar—a total moral wreck and frankly, complete trash. Arthur Smith15 Mark Cruz15 said:Total garbage. I might have a suggestion... ... while those loyal little flies just keep on buzzing around, making a mess of things. Arthur Smith15 said:😁 Look, you conflict-prone martyr, every single one of those quotes is being used exactly within the context established by your own full posts. Just to make things a little easier for you... Since you might not just be playing dumb, but are actually out of your mind... Whether they stand alone or are tucked away within your longer posts, all these quotes ultimately point to the exact same thing—they carry the same weight and convey the same underlying message. You’re being a total hypocrite. Maybe try using that silly head of yours to actually think things through for once. Before you jump to conclusions and start accusing someone of taking their words out of context, maybe we should take a step back and actually look at the full picture. Don't go messing with the title of someone who's clearly just a sycophant and an absolute sucker for ass.Careful now, you might end up upsetting some of the Guru’s followers—those GNU types. Personally, my spiritual leader is Ethan Barrett22, and his supreme lordship isn't exactly looking for... Total garbage. (like a Guru), I suppose there’s some truth to the idea that we might be repeating ourselves here. It feels like we're circling the same drain, perhaps even duplicating certain points we've already laid out. I guess it happens sometimes when the conversation gets heavy, but I'll try to keep things moving forward. (similar to GNU)...martyrs (like yourself), Absolute lunatics. (Kind of like a scene straight out of Seinfeld) i idiot (like Benny) rather than just being spitefully stubborn towards those crazed Alternative types who roughly fit the profiles mentioned here... Arthur Smith15 said:Look, I even stripped out the irrelevant part of the quote where you kiss the Guru on the backside, but your own comment remains—the one where you try to attribute your own stupidity to me, which I am responding to. So, the context is still very much intact. You either don't understand what "taking something out of context" actually means, or you're just being stubborn at this point (and I'm really hoping you aren't actually that dense)... Roger Cooper91 said: It makes no sense. Like I said after my Google search, I couldn't care less about the opinions of an idiot Jerry White29 said:Look, if you're just being difficult and can't grasp the sheer genius of a recipe involving sliced beets and kale, then there's really no helping you...

It’s pretty straightforward, really—just like anyone else on the site, you can always just shoot the moderators a private message (PM). 🤷

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stormyrider28 Asks:
Honestly, you really have to look at what the person who started this thread was actually expecting when they hit "post." To me, it just feels like they're incredibly on edge because things aren't going their way—specifically regarding trying to shut down certain threads or even entire sub-forums. They’re basically forcing an agenda and just badgering everyone here about it, spending entire days hovering over the Forum. It’s pretty obvious that nothing is actually going to change. If the Alternative side were allowed to moderate those specific few users, they’d be gone in a heartbeat, and we’d finally have some actual order around here!

Honestly, all these trolls (and everyone else who’s going to step up to take their place) are going to keep hanging around as long as we allow the bad actors—the people with actual malice, the clueless ones, and those completely lacking common sense—to run wild in these threads. They spend their time insulting others and spreading blatant lies or unverified nonsense that puts anyone trying to find answers—even if they're looking for an Alternative Treatment—in real danger. If people are searching for solutions to their problems, those answers actually need to make sense and, more importantly, NOT cause harm! But instead, you guys seem to be doing everything in your power to hurt people. Seriously, what is the motivation behind this? It’s honestly something someone should really look into and address. ☕

Why would Alternative ever shut down?
Honestly, it’s actually pretty fun when you take a little mathematical approach to all this! You know what they say—repetition is the mother of wisdom, even if what’s being repeated is total nonsense. If you just sit back and crunch the numbers by scanning through all these threads, you end up with this:
stormyrider28 has gone on record no less than 44 times claiming he "knows six people" who completely cured their cancer just by switching to Raw Food—and he even tossed in that one person supposedly kicked both Crohn’s and diabetes to the curb with it! Of course, this incredible medical miracle hasn't exactly made its way into any scientific journals or mainstream news, but hey, Gnu always insists he's preaching the "absolute truth." He just kept repeating it like a broken record until everyone else finally started poking fun at him!
Honestly, stormyrider28 and Elizabeth Jackson have gone on about sixty-eight different times now, preaching that meat is basically toxic, carcinogenic, and just straight-up poison for the human body. It’s getting a little old! When you actually ask them to back up those wild claims with some real substance, they completely freeze up. They always fall back on this vague "WHO research" line—which, let's be real, they clearly haven't actually read themselves. Instead, they just skim through flashy headlines from sites like People Magazine, USA Today, or various clickbait news portals and call it "science." And the funniest part? When you point out that it’s actually the processed additives and preservatives that do the damage, rather than the meat itself, they don't have a single clue how to respond. They just go silent!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone and posted twenty-six different times about how some little kid from a coastal town like Miami caught measles right after getting vaccinated. There’s absolutely zero follow-up or any official explanation regarding what actually happened, because apparently, we aren't allowed to provide the facts here—we just have to keep fueling this extreme anti-vax sentiment!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record twenty-seven different times claiming that you won't find a single raw vegan patient in an oncology ward. It’s a bold claim! But honestly, when it comes to explaining why people who follow a Raw Food lifestyle might choose to decline conventional medical treatment altogether... well, there just isn't an answer for that.
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record at least 23 times now, claiming that chemotherapy is basically a death sentence and calling it a poison that everyone should steer clear of. It’s wild! Even when you throw actual data at her—you know, those statistics comparing standard recovery rates to the success stories from Alternative Treatment—she just brushes it off. She refuses to acknowledge any of it, insisting that the numbers are nothing more than lies cooked up by certain special interest groups. Honestly, it's quite a lot to take in!
-Elizabeth Jackson and stormyrider28 have gone back and forth at least 22 times claiming that a combined diet of meat and veggies is the absolute gold standard for weight loss and they swear by its effectiveness. The funny thing is, neither of them actually eats like that—they spend more time trashing people's food choices than following their own advice!
-Elizabeth Jackson has posted 23 separate times about how parents who refuse vaccinations should be hit with $667 fines, claiming that once they pay up, their kids become "acceptable and no longer a threat," even though everyone has already pointed out that this claim is a total fabrication. She keeps pushing this agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees, despite the fact that she doesn't even have children herself.
-stormyrider28 has dropped the exact same post 14 times across various threads, trying to call out Elizabeth Jackson for spreading ridiculous posts that promote "detox" methods that are actually life-threatening. Once people pointed out the potential side effects, this whole little "Alternative Treatment" clique jumped in to spread that specific snippet (but conveniently leaving out the explanation!) across different boards just to act like some forum member was being bullied, rather than addressing the dangerous nonsense being passed off as "advice."
Seriously, how many troll posts, ad hominem attacks, off-topic tangents, and straight-up malicious lies have been written by just three or four users (it’s always the same group: Elizabeth Jackson, stormyrider28, Lorelei_S, and Arsen...)?

How many violations, breaches of the rules, and breaks of the Forum guidelines have happened here? And you, stormyrider28, seriously have the nerve to come back and try to troll this thread again with your lies and nastiness?

Regarding these "insults"—honestly, it's like looking at a pathological case—you've already for the fourth time posted cropped snippets of text without any of the preceding context. In these snippets, within nutrition threads, people are talking about losing weight by doing things like inserting tubes up the backside, eating carrion, consuming filth, suggesting cannibalism, mocking deceased relatives, making light of terminal illnesses and dead children, insulting their own uneducated parents, mocking other members and their families, leaking private info, and even letting out homophobic, xenophobic, and ultra-nationalist rants...

Does it really bother you when a forum member—who isn't even participating in the actual debate—gets addressed by some petty, insecure person (someone who didn't even address them directly, but instead targeted their possible clone) like this?

The topic is "NUTRITION," meaning anything related to food that aids healing or promotes health, just so people are informed.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the topic, except for the pathological hatred you have toward me (which is obvious by which quotes you choose to pull). You're clearly obsessed with me because I won't let you post garbage without comment, especially since out of 900 posts, you don't have even 10 that are actually on-topic. In any thread, for that matter. Every single one of your posts—and anyone can verify this—is just ad hominem insults, trolling, or sucking up to a guy you claim you don't even know.
But look, stormyrider28, it's not my fault you're so incapable in life—unemployed, no family, no hobbies, no private life, just bitter and twisted. Since you've picked up all those ailments, you've turned to "Alternative Treatment" as a last resort. Those are your life choices, and as an adult, you need to learn to live with them.

Now, why don't you try to make a genuine mental effort and write a post that actually pertains to this topic? ☕

No, It feels like you all are actively working to cause harm. By attacking and insulting people who are simply trying to discuss methods that could actually help others, you’re undermining the very purpose of these discussions.

The sub-forum is... Alternative Treatment—and let’s be honest, we all know exactly what we’re debating here. We’re talking about everything that falls outside the bounds of mainstream medicine.

There are clearly defined rules for this sub-forum, and... Honestly, none of those people you're constantly coming after are actually breaking a single one of those rules.Unlike you, who seems to take pleasure in insulting people just because they want to discuss the topic at hand, I prefer a bit more decorum.
Honestly, even the fact that you felt the need to use bold text here just proves my point—you simply can't help yourself from resorting to insults. It seems like it's just part of your nature at this point.
So, does someone who constantly resorts to insults actually have good intentions? It’s an interesting question, I suppose. I find myself wondering if there's a hidden layer of benevolence behind that kind of abrasive behavior—like they think they're being "honest" or "tough" for your own good. But honestly, maybe that's just wishful thinking on our part. It’s hard to say for sure without knowing what makes them tick. 🍿

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:

stormyrider28 Asks:
Honestly, you really have to look at what the person who started this thread was actually expecting when they hit "post." To me, it just feels like they're incredibly on edge because things aren't going their way—specifically regarding trying to shut down certain threads or even entire sub-forums. They’re basically forcing an agenda and just badgering everyone here about it, spending entire days hovering over the Forum. It’s pretty obvious that nothing is actually going to change. If the Alternative side were allowed to moderate those specific few users, they’d be gone in a heartbeat, and we’d finally have some actual order around here!

Honestly, all these trolls (and everyone else who’s going to step up to take their place) are going to keep hanging around as long as we allow the bad actors—the people with actual malice, the clueless ones, and those completely lacking common sense—to run wild in these threads. They spend their time insulting others and spreading blatant lies or unverified nonsense that puts anyone trying to find answers—even if they're looking for an Alternative Treatment—in real danger. If people are searching for solutions to their problems, those answers actually need to make sense and, more importantly, NOT cause harm! But instead, you guys seem to be doing everything in your power to hurt people. Seriously, what is the motivation behind this? It’s honestly something someone should really look into and address. ☕

Why would Alternative ever shut down?
Honestly, it’s actually pretty fun when you take a little mathematical approach to all this! You know what they say—repetition is the mother of wisdom, even if what’s being repeated is total nonsense. If you just sit back and crunch the numbers by scanning through all these threads, you end up with this:
stormyrider28 has gone on record no less than 44 times claiming he "knows six people" who completely cured their cancer just by switching to Raw Food—and he even tossed in that one person supposedly kicked both Crohn’s and diabetes to the curb with it! Of course, this incredible medical miracle hasn't exactly made its way into any scientific journals or mainstream news, but hey, Gnu always insists he's preaching the "absolute truth." He just kept repeating it like a broken record until everyone else finally started poking fun at him!
Honestly, stormyrider28 and Elizabeth Jackson have gone on about sixty-eight different times now, preaching that meat is basically toxic, carcinogenic, and just straight-up poison for the human body. It’s getting a little old! When you actually ask them to back up those wild claims with some real substance, they completely freeze up. They always fall back on this vague "WHO research" line—which, let's be real, they clearly haven't actually read themselves. Instead, they just skim through flashy headlines from sites like People Magazine, USA Today, or various clickbait news portals and call it "science." And the funniest part? When you point out that it’s actually the processed additives and preservatives that do the damage, rather than the meat itself, they don't have a single clue how to respond. They just go silent!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone and posted twenty-six different times about how some little kid from a coastal town like Miami caught measles right after getting vaccinated. There’s absolutely zero follow-up or any official explanation regarding what actually happened, because apparently, we aren't allowed to provide the facts here—we just have to keep fueling this extreme anti-vax sentiment!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record twenty-seven different times claiming that you won't find a single raw vegan patient in an oncology ward. It’s a bold claim! But honestly, when it comes to explaining why people who follow a Raw Food lifestyle might choose to decline conventional medical treatment altogether... well, there just isn't an answer for that.
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record at least 23 times now, claiming that chemotherapy is basically a death sentence and calling it a poison that everyone should steer clear of. It’s wild! Even when you throw actual data at her—you know, those statistics comparing standard recovery rates to the success stories from Alternative Treatment—she just brushes it off. She refuses to acknowledge any of it, insisting that the numbers are nothing more than lies cooked up by certain special interest groups. Honestly, it's quite a lot to take in!
-Elizabeth Jackson and stormyrider28 have gone back and forth at least 22 times claiming that a combined diet of meat and veggies is the absolute gold standard for weight loss and they swear by its effectiveness. The funny thing is, neither of them actually eats like that—they spend more time trashing people's food choices than following their own advice!
-Elizabeth Jackson has posted 23 separate times about how parents who refuse vaccinations should be hit with $667 fines, claiming that once they pay up, their kids become "acceptable and no longer a threat," even though everyone has already pointed out that this claim is a total fabrication. She keeps pushing this agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees, despite the fact that she doesn't even have children herself.
-stormyrider28 has dropped the exact same post 14 times across various threads, trying to call out Elizabeth Jackson for spreading ridiculous posts that promote "detox" methods that are actually life-threatening. Once people pointed out the potential side effects, this whole little "Alternative Treatment" clique jumped in to spread that specific snippet (but conveniently leaving out the explanation!) across different boards just to act like some forum member was being bullied, rather than addressing the dangerous nonsense being passed off as "advice."
Seriously, how many troll posts, ad hominem attacks, off-topic tangents, and straight-up malicious lies have been written by just three or four users (it’s always the same group: Elizabeth Jackson, stormyrider28, Lorelei_S, and Arsen...)?

How many violations, breaches of the rules, and breaks of the Forum guidelines have happened here? And you, stormyrider28, seriously have the nerve to come back and try to troll this thread again with your lies and nastiness?

Regarding these "insults"—honestly, it's like looking at a pathological case—you've already for the fourth time posted cropped snippets of text without any of the preceding context. In these snippets, within nutrition threads, people are talking about losing weight by doing things like inserting tubes up the backside, eating carrion, consuming filth, suggesting cannibalism, mocking deceased relatives, making light of terminal illnesses and dead children, insulting their own uneducated parents, mocking other members and their families, leaking private info, and even letting out homophobic, xenophobic, and ultra-nationalist rants...

Does it really bother you when a forum member—who isn't even participating in the actual debate—gets addressed by some petty, insecure person (someone who didn't even address them directly, but instead targeted their possible clone) like this?

The topic is "NUTRITION," meaning anything related to food that aids healing or promotes health, just so people are informed.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the topic, except for the pathological hatred you have toward me (which is obvious by which quotes you choose to pull). You're clearly obsessed with me because I won't let you post garbage without comment, especially since out of 900 posts, you don't have even 10 that are actually on-topic. In any thread, for that matter. Every single one of your posts—and anyone can verify this—is just ad hominem insults, trolling, or sucking up to a guy you claim you don't even know.
But look, stormyrider28, it's not my fault you're so incapable in life—unemployed, no family, no hobbies, no private life, just bitter and twisted. Since you've picked up all those ailments, you've turned to "Alternative Treatment" as a last resort. Those are your life choices, and as an adult, you need to learn to live with them.

Now, why don't you try to make a genuine mental effort and write a post that actually pertains to this topic? ☕

Not a single one.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:

stormyrider28 Asks:
Honestly, you really have to look at what the person who started this thread was actually expecting when they hit "post." To me, it just feels like they're incredibly on edge because things aren't going their way—specifically regarding trying to shut down certain threads or even entire sub-forums. They’re basically forcing an agenda and just badgering everyone here about it, spending entire days hovering over the Forum. It’s pretty obvious that nothing is actually going to change. If the Alternative side were allowed to moderate those specific few users, they’d be gone in a heartbeat, and we’d finally have some actual order around here!

Honestly, all these trolls (and everyone else who’s going to step up to take their place) are going to keep hanging around as long as we allow the bad actors—the people with actual malice, the clueless ones, and those completely lacking common sense—to run wild in these threads. They spend their time insulting others and spreading blatant lies or unverified nonsense that puts anyone trying to find answers—even if they're looking for an Alternative Treatment—in real danger. If people are searching for solutions to their problems, those answers actually need to make sense and, more importantly, NOT cause harm! But instead, you guys seem to be doing everything in your power to hurt people. Seriously, what is the motivation behind this? It’s honestly something someone should really look into and address. ☕

Why would Alternative ever shut down?
Honestly, it’s actually pretty fun when you take a little mathematical approach to all this! You know what they say—repetition is the mother of wisdom, even if what’s being repeated is total nonsense. If you just sit back and crunch the numbers by scanning through all these threads, you end up with this:
stormyrider28 has gone on record no less than 44 times claiming he "knows six people" who completely cured their cancer just by switching to Raw Food—and he even tossed in that one person supposedly kicked both Crohn’s and diabetes to the curb with it! Of course, this incredible medical miracle hasn't exactly made its way into any scientific journals or mainstream news, but hey, Gnu always insists he's preaching the "absolute truth." He just kept repeating it like a broken record until everyone else finally started poking fun at him!
Honestly, stormyrider28 and Elizabeth Jackson have gone on about sixty-eight different times now, preaching that meat is basically toxic, carcinogenic, and just straight-up poison for the human body. It’s getting a little old! When you actually ask them to back up those wild claims with some real substance, they completely freeze up. They always fall back on this vague "WHO research" line—which, let's be real, they clearly haven't actually read themselves. Instead, they just skim through flashy headlines from sites like People Magazine, USA Today, or various clickbait news portals and call it "science." And the funniest part? When you point out that it’s actually the processed additives and preservatives that do the damage, rather than the meat itself, they don't have a single clue how to respond. They just go silent!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone and posted twenty-six different times about how some little kid from a coastal town like Miami caught measles right after getting vaccinated. There’s absolutely zero follow-up or any official explanation regarding what actually happened, because apparently, we aren't allowed to provide the facts here—we just have to keep fueling this extreme anti-vax sentiment!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record twenty-seven different times claiming that you won't find a single raw vegan patient in an oncology ward. It’s a bold claim! But honestly, when it comes to explaining why people who follow a Raw Food lifestyle might choose to decline conventional medical treatment altogether... well, there just isn't an answer for that.
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record at least 23 times now, claiming that chemotherapy is basically a death sentence and calling it a poison that everyone should steer clear of. It’s wild! Even when you throw actual data at her—you know, those statistics comparing standard recovery rates to the success stories from Alternative Treatment—she just brushes it off. She refuses to acknowledge any of it, insisting that the numbers are nothing more than lies cooked up by certain special interest groups. Honestly, it's quite a lot to take in!
-Elizabeth Jackson and stormyrider28 have gone back and forth at least 22 times claiming that a combined diet of meat and veggies is the absolute gold standard for weight loss and they swear by its effectiveness. The funny thing is, neither of them actually eats like that—they spend more time trashing people's food choices than following their own advice!
-Elizabeth Jackson has posted 23 separate times about how parents who refuse vaccinations should be hit with $667 fines, claiming that once they pay up, their kids become "acceptable and no longer a threat," even though everyone has already pointed out that this claim is a total fabrication. She keeps pushing this agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees, despite the fact that she doesn't even have children herself.
-stormyrider28 has dropped the exact same post 14 times across various threads, trying to call out Elizabeth Jackson for spreading ridiculous posts that promote "detox" methods that are actually life-threatening. Once people pointed out the potential side effects, this whole little "Alternative Treatment" clique jumped in to spread that specific snippet (but conveniently leaving out the explanation!) across different boards just to act like some forum member was being bullied, rather than addressing the dangerous nonsense being passed off as "advice."
Seriously, how many troll posts, ad hominem attacks, off-topic tangents, and straight-up malicious lies have been written by just three or four users (it’s always the same group: Elizabeth Jackson, stormyrider28, Lorelei_S, and Arsen...)?

How many violations, breaches of the rules, and breaks of the Forum guidelines have happened here? And you, stormyrider28, seriously have the nerve to come back and try to troll this thread again with your lies and nastiness?

Regarding these "insults"—honestly, it's like looking at a pathological case—you've already for the fourth time posted cropped snippets of text without any of the preceding context. In these snippets, within nutrition threads, people are talking about losing weight by doing things like inserting tubes up the backside, eating carrion, consuming filth, suggesting cannibalism, mocking deceased relatives, making light of terminal illnesses and dead children, insulting their own uneducated parents, mocking other members and their families, leaking private info, and even letting out homophobic, xenophobic, and ultra-nationalist rants...

Does it really bother you when a forum member—who isn't even participating in the actual debate—gets addressed by some petty, insecure person (someone who didn't even address them directly, but instead targeted their possible clone) like this?

The topic is "NUTRITION," meaning anything related to food that aids healing or promotes health, just so people are informed.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the topic, except for the pathological hatred you have toward me (which is obvious by which quotes you choose to pull). You're clearly obsessed with me because I won't let you post garbage without comment, especially since out of 900 posts, you don't have even 10 that are actually on-topic. In any thread, for that matter. Every single one of your posts—and anyone can verify this—is just ad hominem insults, trolling, or sucking up to a guy you claim you don't even know.
But look, stormyrider28, it's not my fault you're so incapable in life—unemployed, no family, no hobbies, no private life, just bitter and twisted. Since you've picked up all those ailments, you've turned to "Alternative Treatment" as a last resort. Those are your life choices, and as an adult, you need to learn to live with them.

Now, why don't you try to make a genuine mental effort and write a post that actually pertains to this topic? ☕

Not a single one.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:

stormyrider28 Asks:
Honestly, you really have to look at what the person who started this thread was actually expecting when they hit "post." To me, it just feels like they're incredibly on edge because things aren't going their way—specifically regarding trying to shut down certain threads or even entire sub-forums. They’re basically forcing an agenda and just badgering everyone here about it, spending entire days hovering over the Forum. It’s pretty obvious that nothing is actually going to change. If the Alternative side were allowed to moderate those specific few users, they’d be gone in a heartbeat, and we’d finally have some actual order around here!

Honestly, all these trolls (and everyone else who’s going to step up to take their place) are going to keep hanging around as long as we allow the bad actors—the people with actual malice, the clueless ones, and those completely lacking common sense—to run wild in these threads. They spend their time insulting others and spreading blatant lies or unverified nonsense that puts anyone trying to find answers—even if they're looking for an Alternative Treatment—in real danger. If people are searching for solutions to their problems, those answers actually need to make sense and, more importantly, NOT cause harm! But instead, you guys seem to be doing everything in your power to hurt people. Seriously, what is the motivation behind this? It’s honestly something someone should really look into and address. ☕

Why would Alternative ever shut down?
Honestly, it’s actually pretty fun when you take a little mathematical approach to all this! You know what they say—repetition is the mother of wisdom, even if what’s being repeated is total nonsense. If you just sit back and crunch the numbers by scanning through all these threads, you end up with this:
stormyrider28 has gone on record no less than 44 times claiming he "knows six people" who completely cured their cancer just by switching to Raw Food—and he even tossed in that one person supposedly kicked both Crohn’s and diabetes to the curb with it! Of course, this incredible medical miracle hasn't exactly made its way into any scientific journals or mainstream news, but hey, Gnu always insists he's preaching the "absolute truth." He just kept repeating it like a broken record until everyone else finally started poking fun at him!
Honestly, stormyrider28 and Elizabeth Jackson have gone on about sixty-eight different times now, preaching that meat is basically toxic, carcinogenic, and just straight-up poison for the human body. It’s getting a little old! When you actually ask them to back up those wild claims with some real substance, they completely freeze up. They always fall back on this vague "WHO research" line—which, let's be real, they clearly haven't actually read themselves. Instead, they just skim through flashy headlines from sites like People Magazine, USA Today, or various clickbait news portals and call it "science." And the funniest part? When you point out that it’s actually the processed additives and preservatives that do the damage, rather than the meat itself, they don't have a single clue how to respond. They just go silent!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone and posted twenty-six different times about how some little kid from a coastal town like Miami caught measles right after getting vaccinated. There’s absolutely zero follow-up or any official explanation regarding what actually happened, because apparently, we aren't allowed to provide the facts here—we just have to keep fueling this extreme anti-vax sentiment!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record twenty-seven different times claiming that you won't find a single raw vegan patient in an oncology ward. It’s a bold claim! But honestly, when it comes to explaining why people who follow a Raw Food lifestyle might choose to decline conventional medical treatment altogether... well, there just isn't an answer for that.
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record at least 23 times now, claiming that chemotherapy is basically a death sentence and calling it a poison that everyone should steer clear of. It’s wild! Even when you throw actual data at her—you know, those statistics comparing standard recovery rates to the success stories from Alternative Treatment—she just brushes it off. She refuses to acknowledge any of it, insisting that the numbers are nothing more than lies cooked up by certain special interest groups. Honestly, it's quite a lot to take in!
-Elizabeth Jackson and stormyrider28 have gone back and forth at least 22 times claiming that a combined diet of meat and veggies is the absolute gold standard for weight loss and they swear by its effectiveness. The funny thing is, neither of them actually eats like that—they spend more time trashing people's food choices than following their own advice!
-Elizabeth Jackson has posted 23 separate times about how parents who refuse vaccinations should be hit with $667 fines, claiming that once they pay up, their kids become "acceptable and no longer a threat," even though everyone has already pointed out that this claim is a total fabrication. She keeps pushing this agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees, despite the fact that she doesn't even have children herself.
-stormyrider28 has dropped the exact same post 14 times across various threads, trying to call out Elizabeth Jackson for spreading ridiculous posts that promote "detox" methods that are actually life-threatening. Once people pointed out the potential side effects, this whole little "Alternative Treatment" clique jumped in to spread that specific snippet (but conveniently leaving out the explanation!) across different boards just to act like some forum member was being bullied, rather than addressing the dangerous nonsense being passed off as "advice."
Seriously, how many troll posts, ad hominem attacks, off-topic tangents, and straight-up malicious lies have been written by just three or four users (it’s always the same group: Elizabeth Jackson, stormyrider28, Lorelei_S, and Arsen...)?

How many violations, breaches of the rules, and breaks of the Forum guidelines have happened here? And you, stormyrider28, seriously have the nerve to come back and try to troll this thread again with your lies and nastiness?

Regarding these "insults"—honestly, it's like looking at a pathological case—you've already for the fourth time posted cropped snippets of text without any of the preceding context. In these snippets, within nutrition threads, people are talking about losing weight by doing things like inserting tubes up the backside, eating carrion, consuming filth, suggesting cannibalism, mocking deceased relatives, making light of terminal illnesses and dead children, insulting their own uneducated parents, mocking other members and their families, leaking private info, and even letting out homophobic, xenophobic, and ultra-nationalist rants...

Does it really bother you when a forum member—who isn't even participating in the actual debate—gets addressed by some petty, insecure person (someone who didn't even address them directly, but instead targeted their possible clone) like this?

The topic is "NUTRITION," meaning anything related to food that aids healing or promotes health, just so people are informed.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the topic, except for the pathological hatred you have toward me (which is obvious by which quotes you choose to pull). You're clearly obsessed with me because I won't let you post garbage without comment, especially since out of 900 posts, you don't have even 10 that are actually on-topic. In any thread, for that matter. Every single one of your posts—and anyone can verify this—is just ad hominem insults, trolling, or sucking up to a guy you claim you don't even know.
But look, stormyrider28, it's not my fault you're so incapable in life—unemployed, no family, no hobbies, no private life, just bitter and twisted. Since you've picked up all those ailments, you've turned to "Alternative Treatment" as a last resort. Those are your life choices, and as an adult, you need to learn to live with them.

Now, why don't you try to make a genuine mental effort and write a post that actually pertains to this topic? ☕

He wasn't exactly trolling the thread; rather, he was issuing a warning—and one that he backed up with plenty of solid examples. Regarding the blatant rule violations on the Alternative subforum. As we’ve observed, the most frequent issues involve crude insults and ad hominem attacks.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:

stormyrider28 Asks:
Honestly, you really have to look at what the person who started this thread was actually expecting when they hit "post." To me, it just feels like they're incredibly on edge because things aren't going their way—specifically regarding trying to shut down certain threads or even entire sub-forums. They’re basically forcing an agenda and just badgering everyone here about it, spending entire days hovering over the Forum. It’s pretty obvious that nothing is actually going to change. If the Alternative side were allowed to moderate those specific few users, they’d be gone in a heartbeat, and we’d finally have some actual order around here!

Honestly, all these trolls (and everyone else who’s going to step up to take their place) are going to keep hanging around as long as we allow the bad actors—the people with actual malice, the clueless ones, and those completely lacking common sense—to run wild in these threads. They spend their time insulting others and spreading blatant lies or unverified nonsense that puts anyone trying to find answers—even if they're looking for an Alternative Treatment—in real danger. If people are searching for solutions to their problems, those answers actually need to make sense and, more importantly, NOT cause harm! But instead, you guys seem to be doing everything in your power to hurt people. Seriously, what is the motivation behind this? It’s honestly something someone should really look into and address. ☕

Why would Alternative ever shut down?
Honestly, it’s actually pretty fun when you take a little mathematical approach to all this! You know what they say—repetition is the mother of wisdom, even if what’s being repeated is total nonsense. If you just sit back and crunch the numbers by scanning through all these threads, you end up with this:
stormyrider28 has gone on record no less than 44 times claiming he "knows six people" who completely cured their cancer just by switching to Raw Food—and he even tossed in that one person supposedly kicked both Crohn’s and diabetes to the curb with it! Of course, this incredible medical miracle hasn't exactly made its way into any scientific journals or mainstream news, but hey, Gnu always insists he's preaching the "absolute truth." He just kept repeating it like a broken record until everyone else finally started poking fun at him!
Honestly, stormyrider28 and Elizabeth Jackson have gone on about sixty-eight different times now, preaching that meat is basically toxic, carcinogenic, and just straight-up poison for the human body. It’s getting a little old! When you actually ask them to back up those wild claims with some real substance, they completely freeze up. They always fall back on this vague "WHO research" line—which, let's be real, they clearly haven't actually read themselves. Instead, they just skim through flashy headlines from sites like People Magazine, USA Today, or various clickbait news portals and call it "science." And the funniest part? When you point out that it’s actually the processed additives and preservatives that do the damage, rather than the meat itself, they don't have a single clue how to respond. They just go silent!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone and posted twenty-six different times about how some little kid from a coastal town like Miami caught measles right after getting vaccinated. There’s absolutely zero follow-up or any official explanation regarding what actually happened, because apparently, we aren't allowed to provide the facts here—we just have to keep fueling this extreme anti-vax sentiment!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record twenty-seven different times claiming that you won't find a single raw vegan patient in an oncology ward. It’s a bold claim! But honestly, when it comes to explaining why people who follow a Raw Food lifestyle might choose to decline conventional medical treatment altogether... well, there just isn't an answer for that.
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record at least 23 times now, claiming that chemotherapy is basically a death sentence and calling it a poison that everyone should steer clear of. It’s wild! Even when you throw actual data at her—you know, those statistics comparing standard recovery rates to the success stories from Alternative Treatment—she just brushes it off. She refuses to acknowledge any of it, insisting that the numbers are nothing more than lies cooked up by certain special interest groups. Honestly, it's quite a lot to take in!
-Elizabeth Jackson and stormyrider28 have gone back and forth at least 22 times claiming that a combined diet of meat and veggies is the absolute gold standard for weight loss and they swear by its effectiveness. The funny thing is, neither of them actually eats like that—they spend more time trashing people's food choices than following their own advice!
-Elizabeth Jackson has posted 23 separate times about how parents who refuse vaccinations should be hit with $667 fines, claiming that once they pay up, their kids become "acceptable and no longer a threat," even though everyone has already pointed out that this claim is a total fabrication. She keeps pushing this agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees, despite the fact that she doesn't even have children herself.
-stormyrider28 has dropped the exact same post 14 times across various threads, trying to call out Elizabeth Jackson for spreading ridiculous posts that promote "detox" methods that are actually life-threatening. Once people pointed out the potential side effects, this whole little "Alternative Treatment" clique jumped in to spread that specific snippet (but conveniently leaving out the explanation!) across different boards just to act like some forum member was being bullied, rather than addressing the dangerous nonsense being passed off as "advice."
Seriously, how many troll posts, ad hominem attacks, off-topic tangents, and straight-up malicious lies have been written by just three or four users (it’s always the same group: Elizabeth Jackson, stormyrider28, Lorelei_S, and Arsen...)?

How many violations, breaches of the rules, and breaks of the Forum guidelines have happened here? And you, stormyrider28, seriously have the nerve to come back and try to troll this thread again with your lies and nastiness?

Regarding these "insults"—honestly, it's like looking at a pathological case—you've already for the fourth time posted cropped snippets of text without any of the preceding context. In these snippets, within nutrition threads, people are talking about losing weight by doing things like inserting tubes up the backside, eating carrion, consuming filth, suggesting cannibalism, mocking deceased relatives, making light of terminal illnesses and dead children, insulting their own uneducated parents, mocking other members and their families, leaking private info, and even letting out homophobic, xenophobic, and ultra-nationalist rants...

Does it really bother you when a forum member—who isn't even participating in the actual debate—gets addressed by some petty, insecure person (someone who didn't even address them directly, but instead targeted their possible clone) like this?

The topic is "NUTRITION," meaning anything related to food that aids healing or promotes health, just so people are informed.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the topic, except for the pathological hatred you have toward me (which is obvious by which quotes you choose to pull). You're clearly obsessed with me because I won't let you post garbage without comment, especially since out of 900 posts, you don't have even 10 that are actually on-topic. In any thread, for that matter. Every single one of your posts—and anyone can verify this—is just ad hominem insults, trolling, or sucking up to a guy you claim you don't even know.
But look, stormyrider28, it's not my fault you're so incapable in life—unemployed, no family, no hobbies, no private life, just bitter and twisted. Since you've picked up all those ailments, you've turned to "Alternative Treatment" as a last resort. Those are your life choices, and as an adult, you need to learn to live with them.

Now, why don't you try to make a genuine mental effort and write a post that actually pertains to this topic? ☕

The posts being quoted don't seem to be edited or taken out of context to me, though the insults within them are certainly plain to see.
This is just your classic example of cheap, kindergarten-level insinuation... I mean, we can all see exactly what you said, and there’s really no excuse for the nasty insults you’ve been hurling at people.
If you disagree with someone, you can say so quite politely instead of responding to everything with the crudest possible language.

That is precisely why I’ve put you on my ignore list, along with a few others—it's because of the constant insults.
And honestly, you act this way because there isn't anyone here to hold you accountable.
Once moderation actually starts happening (if that ever happens), I’ll take everyone off my ignore list and I will gladly engage with you; then you won't be able to hide behind this behavior, and I'll just dismantle your points with actual arguments until you lose your cool and resort to insults again. 🙂

And please, don't ask me again why I'm not answering when you're on my ignore list. You've been on this forum far too long to be asking that, and I’ve already explained that on threads under active moderation, I will engage with anyone on my ignore list if I happen to notice their post.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:

stormyrider28 Asks:
Honestly, you really have to look at what the person who started this thread was actually expecting when they hit "post." To me, it just feels like they're incredibly on edge because things aren't going their way—specifically regarding trying to shut down certain threads or even entire sub-forums. They’re basically forcing an agenda and just badgering everyone here about it, spending entire days hovering over the Forum. It’s pretty obvious that nothing is actually going to change. If the Alternative side were allowed to moderate those specific few users, they’d be gone in a heartbeat, and we’d finally have some actual order around here!

Honestly, all these trolls (and everyone else who’s going to step up to take their place) are going to keep hanging around as long as we allow the bad actors—the people with actual malice, the clueless ones, and those completely lacking common sense—to run wild in these threads. They spend their time insulting others and spreading blatant lies or unverified nonsense that puts anyone trying to find answers—even if they're looking for an Alternative Treatment—in real danger. If people are searching for solutions to their problems, those answers actually need to make sense and, more importantly, NOT cause harm! But instead, you guys seem to be doing everything in your power to hurt people. Seriously, what is the motivation behind this? It’s honestly something someone should really look into and address. ☕

Why would Alternative ever shut down?
Honestly, it’s actually pretty fun when you take a little mathematical approach to all this! You know what they say—repetition is the mother of wisdom, even if what’s being repeated is total nonsense. If you just sit back and crunch the numbers by scanning through all these threads, you end up with this:
stormyrider28 has gone on record no less than 44 times claiming he "knows six people" who completely cured their cancer just by switching to Raw Food—and he even tossed in that one person supposedly kicked both Crohn’s and diabetes to the curb with it! Of course, this incredible medical miracle hasn't exactly made its way into any scientific journals or mainstream news, but hey, Gnu always insists he's preaching the "absolute truth." He just kept repeating it like a broken record until everyone else finally started poking fun at him!
Honestly, stormyrider28 and Elizabeth Jackson have gone on about sixty-eight different times now, preaching that meat is basically toxic, carcinogenic, and just straight-up poison for the human body. It’s getting a little old! When you actually ask them to back up those wild claims with some real substance, they completely freeze up. They always fall back on this vague "WHO research" line—which, let's be real, they clearly haven't actually read themselves. Instead, they just skim through flashy headlines from sites like People Magazine, USA Today, or various clickbait news portals and call it "science." And the funniest part? When you point out that it’s actually the processed additives and preservatives that do the damage, rather than the meat itself, they don't have a single clue how to respond. They just go silent!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone and posted twenty-six different times about how some little kid from a coastal town like Miami caught measles right after getting vaccinated. There’s absolutely zero follow-up or any official explanation regarding what actually happened, because apparently, we aren't allowed to provide the facts here—we just have to keep fueling this extreme anti-vax sentiment!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record twenty-seven different times claiming that you won't find a single raw vegan patient in an oncology ward. It’s a bold claim! But honestly, when it comes to explaining why people who follow a Raw Food lifestyle might choose to decline conventional medical treatment altogether... well, there just isn't an answer for that.
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record at least 23 times now, claiming that chemotherapy is basically a death sentence and calling it a poison that everyone should steer clear of. It’s wild! Even when you throw actual data at her—you know, those statistics comparing standard recovery rates to the success stories from Alternative Treatment—she just brushes it off. She refuses to acknowledge any of it, insisting that the numbers are nothing more than lies cooked up by certain special interest groups. Honestly, it's quite a lot to take in!
-Elizabeth Jackson and stormyrider28 have gone back and forth at least 22 times claiming that a combined diet of meat and veggies is the absolute gold standard for weight loss and they swear by its effectiveness. The funny thing is, neither of them actually eats like that—they spend more time trashing people's food choices than following their own advice!
-Elizabeth Jackson has posted 23 separate times about how parents who refuse vaccinations should be hit with $667 fines, claiming that once they pay up, their kids become "acceptable and no longer a threat," even though everyone has already pointed out that this claim is a total fabrication. She keeps pushing this agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees, despite the fact that she doesn't even have children herself.
-stormyrider28 has dropped the exact same post 14 times across various threads, trying to call out Elizabeth Jackson for spreading ridiculous posts that promote "detox" methods that are actually life-threatening. Once people pointed out the potential side effects, this whole little "Alternative Treatment" clique jumped in to spread that specific snippet (but conveniently leaving out the explanation!) across different boards just to act like some forum member was being bullied, rather than addressing the dangerous nonsense being passed off as "advice."
Seriously, how many troll posts, ad hominem attacks, off-topic tangents, and straight-up malicious lies have been written by just three or four users (it’s always the same group: Elizabeth Jackson, stormyrider28, Lorelei_S, and Arsen...)?

How many violations, breaches of the rules, and breaks of the Forum guidelines have happened here? And you, stormyrider28, seriously have the nerve to come back and try to troll this thread again with your lies and nastiness?

Regarding these "insults"—honestly, it's like looking at a pathological case—you've already for the fourth time posted cropped snippets of text without any of the preceding context. In these snippets, within nutrition threads, people are talking about losing weight by doing things like inserting tubes up the backside, eating carrion, consuming filth, suggesting cannibalism, mocking deceased relatives, making light of terminal illnesses and dead children, insulting their own uneducated parents, mocking other members and their families, leaking private info, and even letting out homophobic, xenophobic, and ultra-nationalist rants...

Does it really bother you when a forum member—who isn't even participating in the actual debate—gets addressed by some petty, insecure person (someone who didn't even address them directly, but instead targeted their possible clone) like this?

The topic is "NUTRITION," meaning anything related to food that aids healing or promotes health, just so people are informed.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the topic, except for the pathological hatred you have toward me (which is obvious by which quotes you choose to pull). You're clearly obsessed with me because I won't let you post garbage without comment, especially since out of 900 posts, you don't have even 10 that are actually on-topic. In any thread, for that matter. Every single one of your posts—and anyone can verify this—is just ad hominem insults, trolling, or sucking up to a guy you claim you don't even know.
But look, stormyrider28, it's not my fault you're so incapable in life—unemployed, no family, no hobbies, no private life, just bitter and twisted. Since you've picked up all those ailments, you've turned to "Alternative Treatment" as a last resort. Those are your life choices, and as an adult, you need to learn to live with them.

Now, why don't you try to make a genuine mental effort and write a post that actually pertains to this topic? ☕

I have no idea who you're referring to or by what right you'd label a female member that way, but apparently, you just can't help yourself from being insulting here either. 🤮

If someone spoke to you like that, or in the manner that Gnu quoted, you'd probably be wailing and whining about it across every thread for two months, telling your neighbors, and I doubt even the local senior center would be spared.
However, we've all just accepted that this is simply who you are, and since you can't be any different, we've long since Googled your insults, which serve as nothing more than proof that you've completely lost your temper due to a total lack of actual arguments.
But hey, I suppose these quotes are useful for the official records, so the moderators can see how things actually stand on the unmoderated Alternative PDF. ☕

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:

stormyrider28 Asks:
Honestly, you really have to look at what the person who started this thread was actually expecting when they hit "post." To me, it just feels like they're incredibly on edge because things aren't going their way—specifically regarding trying to shut down certain threads or even entire sub-forums. They’re basically forcing an agenda and just badgering everyone here about it, spending entire days hovering over the Forum. It’s pretty obvious that nothing is actually going to change. If the Alternative side were allowed to moderate those specific few users, they’d be gone in a heartbeat, and we’d finally have some actual order around here!

Honestly, all these trolls (and everyone else who’s going to step up to take their place) are going to keep hanging around as long as we allow the bad actors—the people with actual malice, the clueless ones, and those completely lacking common sense—to run wild in these threads. They spend their time insulting others and spreading blatant lies or unverified nonsense that puts anyone trying to find answers—even if they're looking for an Alternative Treatment—in real danger. If people are searching for solutions to their problems, those answers actually need to make sense and, more importantly, NOT cause harm! But instead, you guys seem to be doing everything in your power to hurt people. Seriously, what is the motivation behind this? It’s honestly something someone should really look into and address. ☕

Why would Alternative ever shut down?
Honestly, it’s actually pretty fun when you take a little mathematical approach to all this! You know what they say—repetition is the mother of wisdom, even if what’s being repeated is total nonsense. If you just sit back and crunch the numbers by scanning through all these threads, you end up with this:
stormyrider28 has gone on record no less than 44 times claiming he "knows six people" who completely cured their cancer just by switching to Raw Food—and he even tossed in that one person supposedly kicked both Crohn’s and diabetes to the curb with it! Of course, this incredible medical miracle hasn't exactly made its way into any scientific journals or mainstream news, but hey, Gnu always insists he's preaching the "absolute truth." He just kept repeating it like a broken record until everyone else finally started poking fun at him!
Honestly, stormyrider28 and Elizabeth Jackson have gone on about sixty-eight different times now, preaching that meat is basically toxic, carcinogenic, and just straight-up poison for the human body. It’s getting a little old! When you actually ask them to back up those wild claims with some real substance, they completely freeze up. They always fall back on this vague "WHO research" line—which, let's be real, they clearly haven't actually read themselves. Instead, they just skim through flashy headlines from sites like People Magazine, USA Today, or various clickbait news portals and call it "science." And the funniest part? When you point out that it’s actually the processed additives and preservatives that do the damage, rather than the meat itself, they don't have a single clue how to respond. They just go silent!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone and posted twenty-six different times about how some little kid from a coastal town like Miami caught measles right after getting vaccinated. There’s absolutely zero follow-up or any official explanation regarding what actually happened, because apparently, we aren't allowed to provide the facts here—we just have to keep fueling this extreme anti-vax sentiment!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record twenty-seven different times claiming that you won't find a single raw vegan patient in an oncology ward. It’s a bold claim! But honestly, when it comes to explaining why people who follow a Raw Food lifestyle might choose to decline conventional medical treatment altogether... well, there just isn't an answer for that.
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record at least 23 times now, claiming that chemotherapy is basically a death sentence and calling it a poison that everyone should steer clear of. It’s wild! Even when you throw actual data at her—you know, those statistics comparing standard recovery rates to the success stories from Alternative Treatment—she just brushes it off. She refuses to acknowledge any of it, insisting that the numbers are nothing more than lies cooked up by certain special interest groups. Honestly, it's quite a lot to take in!
-Elizabeth Jackson and stormyrider28 have gone back and forth at least 22 times claiming that a combined diet of meat and veggies is the absolute gold standard for weight loss and they swear by its effectiveness. The funny thing is, neither of them actually eats like that—they spend more time trashing people's food choices than following their own advice!
-Elizabeth Jackson has posted 23 separate times about how parents who refuse vaccinations should be hit with $667 fines, claiming that once they pay up, their kids become "acceptable and no longer a threat," even though everyone has already pointed out that this claim is a total fabrication. She keeps pushing this agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees, despite the fact that she doesn't even have children herself.
-stormyrider28 has dropped the exact same post 14 times across various threads, trying to call out Elizabeth Jackson for spreading ridiculous posts that promote "detox" methods that are actually life-threatening. Once people pointed out the potential side effects, this whole little "Alternative Treatment" clique jumped in to spread that specific snippet (but conveniently leaving out the explanation!) across different boards just to act like some forum member was being bullied, rather than addressing the dangerous nonsense being passed off as "advice."
Seriously, how many troll posts, ad hominem attacks, off-topic tangents, and straight-up malicious lies have been written by just three or four users (it’s always the same group: Elizabeth Jackson, stormyrider28, Lorelei_S, and Arsen...)?

How many violations, breaches of the rules, and breaks of the Forum guidelines have happened here? And you, stormyrider28, seriously have the nerve to come back and try to troll this thread again with your lies and nastiness?

Regarding these "insults"—honestly, it's like looking at a pathological case—you've already for the fourth time posted cropped snippets of text without any of the preceding context. In these snippets, within nutrition threads, people are talking about losing weight by doing things like inserting tubes up the backside, eating carrion, consuming filth, suggesting cannibalism, mocking deceased relatives, making light of terminal illnesses and dead children, insulting their own uneducated parents, mocking other members and their families, leaking private info, and even letting out homophobic, xenophobic, and ultra-nationalist rants...

Does it really bother you when a forum member—who isn't even participating in the actual debate—gets addressed by some petty, insecure person (someone who didn't even address them directly, but instead targeted their possible clone) like this?

The topic is "NUTRITION," meaning anything related to food that aids healing or promotes health, just so people are informed.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the topic, except for the pathological hatred you have toward me (which is obvious by which quotes you choose to pull). You're clearly obsessed with me because I won't let you post garbage without comment, especially since out of 900 posts, you don't have even 10 that are actually on-topic. In any thread, for that matter. Every single one of your posts—and anyone can verify this—is just ad hominem insults, trolling, or sucking up to a guy you claim you don't even know.
But look, stormyrider28, it's not my fault you're so incapable in life—unemployed, no family, no hobbies, no private life, just bitter and twisted. Since you've picked up all those ailments, you've turned to "Alternative Treatment" as a last resort. Those are your life choices, and as an adult, you need to learn to live with them.

Now, why don't you try to make a genuine mental effort and write a post that actually pertains to this topic? ☕

Your whole approach seems centered on attacking and insulting this individual and several others.🤦
Personally, I don't see any issue with someone agreeing with someone else on a particular point.
In my view, being in agreement is just as polarizing as disagreeing, but at least agreeing doesn't violate the rules, whereas insults certainly do.
Gnu hasn't made a single post where he insulted anyone, nor has he used any ad hominem tactics.
I don't see any links provided here; it just feels like a sweeping fabrication. Meanwhile, he actually provided a substantial collection of evidence clearly showing the insults and ad hominem attacks, along with numerous accusations of people being "clones"—all coming from the exact same people who level those same accusations against others. 🤦

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:

stormyrider28 Asks:
Honestly, you really have to look at what the person who started this thread was actually expecting when they hit "post." To me, it just feels like they're incredibly on edge because things aren't going their way—specifically regarding trying to shut down certain threads or even entire sub-forums. They’re basically forcing an agenda and just badgering everyone here about it, spending entire days hovering over the Forum. It’s pretty obvious that nothing is actually going to change. If the Alternative side were allowed to moderate those specific few users, they’d be gone in a heartbeat, and we’d finally have some actual order around here!

Honestly, all these trolls (and everyone else who’s going to step up to take their place) are going to keep hanging around as long as we allow the bad actors—the people with actual malice, the clueless ones, and those completely lacking common sense—to run wild in these threads. They spend their time insulting others and spreading blatant lies or unverified nonsense that puts anyone trying to find answers—even if they're looking for an Alternative Treatment—in real danger. If people are searching for solutions to their problems, those answers actually need to make sense and, more importantly, NOT cause harm! But instead, you guys seem to be doing everything in your power to hurt people. Seriously, what is the motivation behind this? It’s honestly something someone should really look into and address. ☕

Why would Alternative ever shut down?
Honestly, it’s actually pretty fun when you take a little mathematical approach to all this! You know what they say—repetition is the mother of wisdom, even if what’s being repeated is total nonsense. If you just sit back and crunch the numbers by scanning through all these threads, you end up with this:
stormyrider28 has gone on record no less than 44 times claiming he "knows six people" who completely cured their cancer just by switching to Raw Food—and he even tossed in that one person supposedly kicked both Crohn’s and diabetes to the curb with it! Of course, this incredible medical miracle hasn't exactly made its way into any scientific journals or mainstream news, but hey, Gnu always insists he's preaching the "absolute truth." He just kept repeating it like a broken record until everyone else finally started poking fun at him!
Honestly, stormyrider28 and Elizabeth Jackson have gone on about sixty-eight different times now, preaching that meat is basically toxic, carcinogenic, and just straight-up poison for the human body. It’s getting a little old! When you actually ask them to back up those wild claims with some real substance, they completely freeze up. They always fall back on this vague "WHO research" line—which, let's be real, they clearly haven't actually read themselves. Instead, they just skim through flashy headlines from sites like People Magazine, USA Today, or various clickbait news portals and call it "science." And the funniest part? When you point out that it’s actually the processed additives and preservatives that do the damage, rather than the meat itself, they don't have a single clue how to respond. They just go silent!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone and posted twenty-six different times about how some little kid from a coastal town like Miami caught measles right after getting vaccinated. There’s absolutely zero follow-up or any official explanation regarding what actually happened, because apparently, we aren't allowed to provide the facts here—we just have to keep fueling this extreme anti-vax sentiment!
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record twenty-seven different times claiming that you won't find a single raw vegan patient in an oncology ward. It’s a bold claim! But honestly, when it comes to explaining why people who follow a Raw Food lifestyle might choose to decline conventional medical treatment altogether... well, there just isn't an answer for that.
Elizabeth Jackson has gone on record at least 23 times now, claiming that chemotherapy is basically a death sentence and calling it a poison that everyone should steer clear of. It’s wild! Even when you throw actual data at her—you know, those statistics comparing standard recovery rates to the success stories from Alternative Treatment—she just brushes it off. She refuses to acknowledge any of it, insisting that the numbers are nothing more than lies cooked up by certain special interest groups. Honestly, it's quite a lot to take in!
-Elizabeth Jackson and stormyrider28 have gone back and forth at least 22 times claiming that a combined diet of meat and veggies is the absolute gold standard for weight loss and they swear by its effectiveness. The funny thing is, neither of them actually eats like that—they spend more time trashing people's food choices than following their own advice!
-Elizabeth Jackson has posted 23 separate times about how parents who refuse vaccinations should be hit with $667 fines, claiming that once they pay up, their kids become "acceptable and no longer a threat," even though everyone has already pointed out that this claim is a total fabrication. She keeps pushing this agenda and attacking anyone who disagrees, despite the fact that she doesn't even have children herself.
-stormyrider28 has dropped the exact same post 14 times across various threads, trying to call out Elizabeth Jackson for spreading ridiculous posts that promote "detox" methods that are actually life-threatening. Once people pointed out the potential side effects, this whole little "Alternative Treatment" clique jumped in to spread that specific snippet (but conveniently leaving out the explanation!) across different boards just to act like some forum member was being bullied, rather than addressing the dangerous nonsense being passed off as "advice."
Seriously, how many troll posts, ad hominem attacks, off-topic tangents, and straight-up malicious lies have been written by just three or four users (it’s always the same group: Elizabeth Jackson, stormyrider28, Lorelei_S, and Arsen...)?

How many violations, breaches of the rules, and breaks of the Forum guidelines have happened here? And you, stormyrider28, seriously have the nerve to come back and try to troll this thread again with your lies and nastiness?

Regarding these "insults"—honestly, it's like looking at a pathological case—you've already for the fourth time posted cropped snippets of text without any of the preceding context. In these snippets, within nutrition threads, people are talking about losing weight by doing things like inserting tubes up the backside, eating carrion, consuming filth, suggesting cannibalism, mocking deceased relatives, making light of terminal illnesses and dead children, insulting their own uneducated parents, mocking other members and their families, leaking private info, and even letting out homophobic, xenophobic, and ultra-nationalist rants...

Does it really bother you when a forum member—who isn't even participating in the actual debate—gets addressed by some petty, insecure person (someone who didn't even address them directly, but instead targeted their possible clone) like this?

The topic is "NUTRITION," meaning anything related to food that aids healing or promotes health, just so people are informed.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the topic, except for the pathological hatred you have toward me (which is obvious by which quotes you choose to pull). You're clearly obsessed with me because I won't let you post garbage without comment, especially since out of 900 posts, you don't have even 10 that are actually on-topic. In any thread, for that matter. Every single one of your posts—and anyone can verify this—is just ad hominem insults, trolling, or sucking up to a guy you claim you don't even know.
But look, stormyrider28, it's not my fault you're so incapable in life—unemployed, no family, no hobbies, no private life, just bitter and twisted. Since you've picked up all those ailments, you've turned to "Alternative Treatment" as a last resort. Those are your life choices, and as an adult, you need to learn to live with them.

Now, why don't you try to make a genuine mental effort and write a post that actually pertains to this topic? ☕

And there we have it—this is exactly how you deal with people's private lives, and it characterizes your entire presence on this sub-forum...🤮
Of course, these aren't considered ad hominem arguments simply because they're coming from you. 🍿
But if someone happens to suspect that someone else is a clone, then that's apparently worth a firing squad. 🤦

I honestly think this thread is pointless and there's no reason to waste any more time here.
It looks like this is just another playground for you to vent, so it might be best to just let you talk to yourself. It might serve as another outlet for you, and since you seem to have so many of them, perhaps you'll finally achieve some actual results.

It’s actually quite interesting to observe that ever since Alternative stopped being moderated and just became this cesspool of insults and trolling, only two people have even bothered to request a profile verification for themselves—and honestly, they were both already suspected of being clones of Brenda Gonzalez12, namely Jednoumlje and Sandra Kern37...
It also seems like these same individuals are constantly demanding verifications for others, simply because someone happens to disagree with their specific worldview.

It might be worth giving that some thought...

But then again, I suppose it isn't much of a surprise; we see plenty of people with similar writing styles... hell, sometimes even identical ones... appearing on our feeds all the time. 😁

Nicole Johnson20 said:Alright, could you perhaps clarify what exactly you consider to be quackery? Because someone once pointed out that if we follow that logic, suggesting a cup of chamomile tea instead of an aspirin for a headache would also count as quackery. How are we supposed to draw a line there?

It seems to me that you're trying to de-escalate things on this subforum, attempting to find some common ground so we can settle down and stop the rule-breaking.
I actually welcome that initiative; I think it’s quite a good idea, especially while we're without a moderator. 🙂

However, I suspect matters are actually quite straightforward, and the real issue lies solely in the violation of the rules.
If we had active moderation, these issues wouldn't even exist.

Since we don't know how much longer the moderator will be away, if we truly want to stabilize the situation, everyone should just agree to stick to the forum and subforum guidelines—so, again, I think your proposal is excellent. 👍

Let's look at an extreme scenario: suppose everyone stops posting any links regarding cures and simply leaves sick people to fend for themselves. If anyone asks for advice regarding an illness, we’d just tell them we can't help because anything outside of conventional medicine is considered quackery, and they'll have to figure it out on their own.
In that case, the Alternative subforum would basically just be a hollow shell, existing in name only. 😵

Would that bring peace to the board? You have three guesses. ☕

Furthermore, the real issue isn't really about sharing online anecdotes that have nothing to do with quackery—even if they did and even if they were potentially dangerous—because the Department of Health would have stepped in long ago to block such sites or restrict access to them. 🤷
For instance, GNU wrote about personal experiences of loved ones who recovered through alternative means, and he was absolutely torn apart for it. He didn't even post a link.

At the end of the day, I haven't posted a single link to a cure or anything remotely similar in over a month (around here), yet every single one of my posts during that month has been met with vitriol. I keep receiving these nasty insults from a small group of people who clearly have made it their mission to target me.
So, why is that happening?
Is it because of agave syrup or some blended concoction that I didn't even consume?
Does that actually put anyone's life at risk?

No, so that certainly isn't the reason.
The reason is simply that they don't want these types of discussions to exist.
Of course, given those intentions, I don't think there are two possible reasons anymore; there's really only one.

But, to wrap this up, I'll share something quite interesting and undeniable that might make everyone pause for a moment: Back when we had moderation, even the former moderator BAT Kol—who is a physician by trade and was an outspoken opponent of the Alternative section, and with whom I had a rather strained relationship—never once gave me a warning, let alone a strike, for a single link I shared regarding a cure, nor for anyone else.

Feel free to check the logs. ☕

He voiced his disagreement, sure; sometimes we'd get into a debate where he presented his arguments and I presented mine. Occasionally, we'd even see eye-to-eye. Most often, we didn't, and we'd just move on.
But I have NEVER even received a warning, nor has a single one of those posts ever been deleted—and I’ve written hundreds of them!

So, regarding whether those kinds of links actually violate any rules or laws.
They don't break anything; if anything, they are the most relevant, on-topic content you could find on this subforum, especially within the Raw Food thread where most of them are shared..

In fact, the original creators specifically designed the thread to encourage discussions about healing journeys and personal experiences with raw food. (just look at the opening post)..

I suppose all of this just highlights the mindless, repetitive chatter about "quackery." It feels more like a deliberate attempt to degrade the topic until people feel it's only acceptable to say something like, "Well, maybe eating an apple after a burger isn't a bad idea once in a while." 🤦.
Then, presumably, that wouldn't offend anyone... 🤦.

Mark Cruz15 said:People interested in alternative lifestyles should probably steer clear of quackery altogether. Essentially, they need to stop posting about anything that could potentially jeopardize public health.

Simply discussing a topic doesn't make it quackery, especially when it aligns perfectly with the purpose of this forum.
And I might remind you that we are specifically referring to a PDF titled Alternative Treatment - Everything outside the realm of conventional medicine.

Are you suggesting that absolutely everything written here qualifies as quackery?
On what basis, exactly?
If not everything, then surely there must be something here that you don't consider fraudulent?
Or perhaps you possess some special credentials that allow you to draw such definitive lines between truth and falsehood? 😵

It really isn't particularly kind to slap labels like "quasi-alternative" on people just because your perspectives happen to differ.
The subforum operates under a very specific set of guidelines, and as long as those are followed, one should be fine.

None of the points you've raised actually violate any established rules, nor can you provide any concrete evidence that a simple suggestion or a shared link poses a threat to anyone's well-being.

How exactly would you prove such a thing? Have you even attempted to substantiate these claims, or are you just repeating the same mantra—that everything we write is dangerous—without offering a single shred of proof? 🥱

Indeed, that is precisely why this subforum requires a moderator who will strictly adhere to the community guidelines and prevent individuals from rewriting the rules based on their own personal whims or biases, while ensuring that actual violations are handled appropriately.

In my view, the stricter, the better.

Nicole Johnson20 said:Look, I could easily get carried away if I tried to address every single point individually—I was actually starting to go down that rabbit hole, and I fear the post would end up being an absolute novel. What do you all think would actually constitute acceptable behavior on this subforum? I’m wondering what kind of guidelines we could establish regarding what should be discussed—and more importantly, what shouldn't—so we can finally put an end to the constant mockery, insults, and trolling. Ideally, I’d love to see a space where a group of people can just come together and have a peaceful conversation about the things they're genuinely interested in, without feeling like they're walking into a minefield. What do you think it would take to make that happen?

I suspect that it’s in... Regarding the guidelines for the Alternative Treatment subforum: Fair enough. I suppose one might wonder what kind of content could actually be included in a PDF like that, and more importantly, what the absolute "no-go" zones are. It’s a valid question, really. If we’re talking about general guidelines, I imagine the subject matter could range from anything to technical manuals or even creative portfolios. However, when it comes to what you *shouldn't* do, there are definitely some boundaries to respect. For instance, you probably shouldn't include anything that violates copyright or uses proprietary information without permission—that's just common sense, I guess. There's also the matter of security; you wouldn't want to embed malicious scripts or sensitive data that could compromise someone's system. Maybe it's also worth considering the user experience. Flooding a document with massive, unoptimized images or overly complex formatting can make it a total nightmare to read on a standard device. It’s almost like trying to drive through downtown Chicago during rush hour—just unnecessarily difficult and frustrating for everyone involved. In short, keep it clean, keep it legal, and try not to make it a headache for the person on the other end. That seems to be the golden rule, at least in my book.

So, there aren't any strict rules or specific restrictions to worry about, but I suppose we should probably try our best to stay on topic.
It’s pretty clear that what isn't permitted has been explicitly stated.

I should also point out that at the very top of every single page within the Alternative Treatment subforum, there is an explicit disclaimer clearly stating exactly what that section is intended for. Alternative Treatment—everything that falls outside the scope of conventional medicine.
(top, left) ☕

The rules have remained exactly like this for years now. They’ve always been perfectly clear, and honestly, there hasn't really been any reason to change them.
Look, I really have to emphasize this: any persistent attempts to push topics that fall outside our established guidelines or deviate from the set rules are considered completely off-topic. It’s viewed as a violation of our community standards and, frankly, will be subject to sanctions. If you have something else to discuss, maybe it belongs on a different sub-forum instead.

Look, this subforum is unique, and it’s best left exactly as it is. We really shouldn't—and frankly, we shouldn't be allowed to—try to turn this space into a version of Natural Science 2 or any of those other sections like Medicine or Health. Those areas have their own specific rules and specialized topics for a reason, and this isn't one of them.

If someone finds a particular topic uninteresting or, heaven forbid, outright irritating, I honestly can't fathom why they would go to such exhausting lengths to insult others. It seems like a massive waste of one's precious time just to lash out at people simply because they happen to hold a different perspective. 🤷
😵

Nicole Johnson20 said:If it were possible to actually sit down and put together a structured list—you know, like a clear-cut breakdown of what qualifies as a "No" versus what counts as a "Yes"—it might be helpful. For instance... It’s a bit of a mixed bag, isn't it? You have your own lived experiences, then there are the stories from public figures you actually know, followed by the accounts of complete strangers—some anonymous, others signing their full names to whatever they claim. Then you have the endless stream of advice floating around the internet, bits of wisdom here and tips there. Personally, I think we also have to account for individual perspectives, though I suppose I should clarify that any such take is strictly the opinion of a layman like myself. etc., etc.

Even in... Please make sure you take a moment to review the guidelines for the Alternative Treatment subforum. It’s been suggested that we could share our personal experiences here, and I think that might actually be quite useful.

Of course, you’re more than welcome to point someone toward the discussion threads on homeopathy or crystal therapy if that's what they're looking for. It’s perfectly fine to share what worked for you , but we can't have everyone promoting their own specific therapies all over this subforum. I suppose the line is somewhat blurry , and it probably should be more defined, but since our moderators aren't exactly known for being quick to pull the trigger on bans, just try to respect the warnings.

If you happen to be linking to someone else's personal experience, the rules do require you to provide a brief summary explaining what it's about.
Now, if someone disagrees with what’s written in one of those links, that is entirely their right. If the content is so distressing that it causes genuine trauma or keeps them from sleeping—or if they feel it poses a legitimate health risk—they shouldn't be complaining to the person who shared the link. They should reach out directly to the original author of the content instead.

Furthermore, if they make that claim, the person sharing the link must certainly prove that such posts actually jeopardize someone's health.

Nicole Johnson20 said:Look, this would be a complete disaster for anyone else's elections: I'm assuming your professional life is non-existent too, given how much you harp on about a wife and kids you've clearly never seen outside of a tent at night.

It’s honestly just sad and incredibly foolish when someone keeps obsessively bringing up the topic of having children, swearing they have them while simultaneously judging everyone else they assume doesn't... it’s the wrong subforum for this kind of thing.
And, if I may say so, it's pretty obvious why you're doing it. ☕

stormyrider28 said:Well, that might be the only thing you haven't done on this forum yet—actually hurling profanities directly at people's families.
Everything else? You've done it. You've brought up people's late parents and talked about shitting on their graves, you've wished all sorts of vulgar things upon others, and spilled a mountain of other garbage that has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence or decent behavior on a forum. Every single post you make feels like an insult, and even here on PŽK, you can't really hide who you are because that aggression and sheer arrogance is just more defining than anything else.

Exactly. I think I've actually posted over a hundred times now that demonstrates this quite clearly.
They aren't particularly hard to find, either, since almost every one of them contains some sort of insult.

Since the newcomer has already kicked things off and opened up the floor for discussion... Regarding those suspicions... It seems some of our regulars have developed clones of themselves, and apparently, he and his entire circle of brothers feel deeply wounded by anyone daring to point it out. I have some suspicions. And they actually consider that to be some sort of massive sin— The following material provides evidence that... They’re doing the exact same thing, honestly.

U Regarding this post...So, Brenda Gonzalez12 is out here going after Daniel Davis40, claiming he’s some kind of clone. Honestly, the accusations are getting a bit wild, don't you think? It's all quite intense.

So, to get things started... I’d like to officially report Leeni for operating under two different handles within this same thread—specifically using both the Leeni account and the Lorelei account. It feels like a violation of the rules to be playing both sides of the conversation like that. What exactly falls under the prohibition? Or rather, what is off-limits here?

He’s acting like he’s making himself available, isn't he? Or maybe he's just pretending to be reachable... I can't quite tell. ☕

And here we go again, with people accusing everyone else of being nothing more than clones:

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Oh, wow... It seems a clone has been uncovered.Well, you didn't last very long, did you? After about 200 posts scattered across all those various chat threads, here you are—finally making your grand debut in public.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Honestly, just go grab a smoothie and deal with the consequences—it’s basically weight loss and detoxification rolled into one miserable package. What an absolute joke. Is it really that pathetic? First one, then the second clone....👎😵

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:The fact that this thread doesn't have any active moderation is exactly why things have spiraled this far. Honestly, if we actually had some oversight in place, we wouldn't be facing this mess right now. It seems like nobody even bothers to look at the reports; they just sit there, completely ignored. The clone-paratroopers are dropping in like they own the place....so, I suppose we've officially entered the Wild West.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:And yet, even in a state of total desperation, I find myself compelled to read his posts. Even with those fake accounts, they’re still just sitting there trolling and replying to everything.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Has anyone else noticed that Daniel Davis40 actually writes and responds as if she were being asked the question herself, even though the question was directed at Lorelei? And then she replied using the wrong profile.

Man, Lorelei and Daniel Davis40 are clearly the exact same person!!!

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Do you want me to verify that publicly? Right on the PŽK. I might even check out some other clone accounts while I'm at it.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:I don't see you reporting this to the PŽK or via the report button? Maybe it's because you know they'd actually look into who belongs to whom, who is exchanging what kind of PMs, and what kind of shady business is going on.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:That’s why I told you to head over to the Nutrition subforum, since there are actual experts there. The way you're acting just gives off major clone account vibes.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Don't you realize you've been exposed as a clone? You really messed up there.
Gnuujninestrin, one thing at a time, you are spiraling into the abyss...

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:It feels even more pathetic now, especially after that absolutely brainless post they put out earlier. So, I guess the real question now is whether she’s writing as GNU and Lorelei, or if he’s the one writing as GNU and Lorelei.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Someone seems to have had a bit of a slip-up and was posting from the wrong account, wasn't that right? Gnuujninestrin, I suppose you’ve finally unmasked yourself? Well, there it is. It looks like we’ve finally started exposing ourselves through our own sheer carelessness.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:If we’re following that line of reasoning, then you and Lorelei are actually the exact same person. Look, it really boils down to this: either she’s a submissive little homo, or you are. Maybe both. I guess it's just one or the other at this point.

Even our dear friend Linda Moore51 hasn't held back, throwing around accusations of cloning—though, by some bizarre coincidence, her own writing style and body of work seem to mirror those very claims. Absolutely identical. Arthur Smith15, it seems like Linda Moore51 is writing in all lowercase—though, if you ask me, she’s probably doing it on purpose. 😬

There seems to be an endless stream of accusations floating around lately, suggesting that stormyrider28 is nothing more than a clone of Rorion.

Linda Moore51 said:There’s another one just like it, though they aren't around at the moment. He was hanging out with one of those clones recently, and then they went ahead and banned him.
I mean, let’s be honest—GNU is such a uniquely rare cocktail of sheer stubbornness, total silliness, and pure laziness. It’s almost impressive how they manage to pull all three off at once.

Linda Moore51 said:Oh, please, give me a break. Seriously, don't be ridiculous—even Gnuujninestrin wouldn't buy this for a second.

Linda Moore51 said:I suppose there’s a possibility that both the doctor and the guru were attempting some sort of detoxification through colon cleansing. Maybe that was the angle they were taking. Well, I suppose it looks like Gnu-Rorion almost missed the boat on that one....

Linda Moore51 said:I wanted to take a moment to express my sincere appreciation for the work being done by Klistirka, or perhaps more accurately, GNU-Rorion. Who on earth is actually out here defending their love for that absolute crackpot guru, Elizabeth Jackson?

Linda Moore51 said:Bravo, Gnuujninestrin! That’s what you call love, I suppose...

Linda Moore51 said:Well, there you have it. GNU Rorion Caught in another lie... again.

Linda Moore51 said:GNU RorionHonestly, the things you claim to understand simply don't exist. It’s almost impressive, really—you're so profoundly disconnected from reality that I suppose finding steady employment must be an impossible task for you. That’s just my take on the depth of your understanding, or lack thereof.

Linda Moore51 said:😬Honestly, I have to ask—what exactly would parents even do with that kind of information? It seems a bit misplaced, doesn't it?Let’s take you, for instance, GNU Rorion Or whatever other folks are out there..

Linda Moore51 said:I suppose there isn't much to say here, really. Just a single letter, standing all by itself. It feels almost minimalist, doesn't it? Like a quiet moment before something actually happens. I guess we'll just wait and see what follows. GNU Rorion Or, to put it more succinctly, here is what Elizabeth Jackson wrote:

Linda Moore51 said:If we’re really talking about what defines a "real man," I suppose we have to look past the superficial stuff. It’s easy to get caught up in those loud, aggressive stereotypes you see in movies, but I’ve always felt that true masculinity is a bit more nuanced than that—maybe even quieter. To me, it seems to be less about dominance and more about a certain kind of steady, reliable character. It’s about showing up when things get difficult, being someone people can actually lean on, and having the integrity to do the right thing even when nobody is watching. I guess you could say it’s about strength of character rather than just physical presence. It’s a heavy topic, certainly, but one worth pondering. GNU Rorion He just won't suppress his feelings.

Linda Moore51 said:Let's get moving. GNU Rorion Go get 'em, Elizabeth Jackson...

Linda Moore51 said:Do you all actually realize what kind of "love" we're even talking about here?
GNU Rorion Kudos to them. Truly.

Linda Moore51 said:And now? GNU Rorion So, they're writing about how to maintain a raw food diet...

Linda Moore51 said:I’d go so far as to say I’m willing to bet on it. GNU Rorion I suspect they just won't grasp what's actually happening here...

Linda Moore51 said:Hey gnu-rorione, where exactly does it say that the clone has to be created at the exact same moment you pick your handle?

Linda Moore51 said:Gnuujninestrin, I always knew you were being a total jerk.

Linda Moore51 said:GNU Rorion There’s really no need to feel awkward about it; honestly, in this day and age, it's just become a perfectly normal part of life.

Linda Moore51 said:I find myself unable to agree with that assertion. There is a very real possibility that a doctor or some self-proclaimed wellness guru could cause serious harm during a colon cleanse, simply because... gnu-Rorion It could have gone south...

Linda Moore51 said:GNU RorionHonestly, it feels like your personal doctor and self-appointed guru is just straight-up insulting common sense at this point.

Linda Moore51 said:GNU RorionI mean, honestly, look at the kind of posts you’re putting out about your so-called miracle doctor and guru. It’s pretty obvious you’re just desperate for Elizabeth Jackson to take notice of you, too. I can't say I'm entirely surprised that people are calling you a sycophant.

Linda Moore51 said:I was wondering if one of Elizabeth Jackson's loyalists might be kind enough to give the guru a heads-up? Since he clearly isn't keeping up with our posts, someone probably needs to step in and fill him in. 😬I suppose it’s also the case that... GNU Rorion It looks like they’ve started bolding their text now, much like how they tend to praise it in their own posts.

Linda Moore51 said:just in a single post gnu-Rorion 😬

And there you have it—the very person accusing everyone else of being clones... ☕

It’s quite interesting, isn't it? the irony of people making those accusations when they're the exact same ones hurling the most vicious insults that we've been seeing quoted here constantly over the last few days.
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Nicole Johnson20 said:2. I can't help but wonder—what exactly makes an accusation of cloning grounds for a ban? It seems like such a heavy charge to throw around. I mean, maybe there’s some nuance I’m missing, but it feels a bit extreme, doesn't it? Under what circumstances does a simple allegation like that actually warrant kicking someone off the platform? I guess I'm just trying to wrap my head around the logic behind it.

It seems someone is being cautious for a reason. It seems they’re attempting to sway people toward... It feels like we're dealing with a rule that doesn't actually exist. He’s actually operating under the assumption that some imaginary rule exists, just so he can go around expecting someone to get punished for it. 🤦

However, I haven't actually seen anyone around here post a link to... Forum Rules Where exactly would that even be visible? Someone's. I suppose there's a certain sense of suspicion hanging in the air lately. It’s hard to shake that feeling, though I can't quite put my finger on exactly where it's coming from. Maybe it's just me, or maybe there's something more to it than I'm realizing. Either way, things just feel... uncertain. And honestly, I’m just wondering if something like this even qualifies as a violation of any actual rules. I mean, I guess you could argue it, but it feels like a bit of a stretch, doesn't it? 🤷

And now, a rather somber and serious question for everyone:

If I were to do it all by myself... I suppose there’s a certain level of suspicion lingering in the air lately. It’s hard not to feel it, isn't it? Maybe it's just me, but everything feels a bit unsettled. I was wondering if anyone here actually knows whether having a clone account is enough to land you a strike or even a full-blown ban—though I suspect we’re talking about a permanent ban in that case. 🤦), So, what exactly should be the next move, then? I suppose we're left wondering where to go from here. I’m thinking about dealing with those users who most flagrantly violate our community guidelines—the ones who constantly target anyone with a differing opinion just to stir up trouble. It might be time to start utilizing the Ban Corner more aggressively for those specific individuals. Rough insults. I suppose you could say it’s much like... Here. Or... Here. Or perhaps... Right here. Are they properly cited and clearly introduced? 😕

Honestly, if you want to get under the skin of the supermods, just keep posting threads like this. It’s pretty obvious that this constant back-and-forth every other day is already starting to grate on their nerves... 🙄

I suppose you should just put your faith in them and trust that they’re doing everything in their power to find a moderator who is actually competent and fair. For now, maybe just try to relax and let it be. 🥳

I couldn't agree more. Honestly, this kind of crude, uncivilized personal attacking is an absolute extreme, and it’s something you just don't tolerate on any decent forum.

To give you a few more examples of what I mean:

monty-zg said:What even is a "grandpa"? Are you just too tired to stay awake? I'm still waiting on some actual answers here.
Taking a dump while squatting over a hole might be simple, but let's be real—it's a mess and you'll end up covered in it.

monty-zg said:And there he goes, that submissive little Linux user, promoting general oral fixation after his blindfolded spree.
Can't you guys just move over to Reddit and jerk off until sunrise instead?