Jamie Davis9 said:The reality is that some children, much like certain adults, are simply ill-equipped to handle certain subjects or complexities. It is perfectly legitimate to find oneself incapable of grasping certain things. Of course, having a talented teacher matters; dedication and quality are vital in any profession. However, a passion for reading is also a matter of individual inclination, personal capacity, and the habits formed during one's formative years—which ultimately falls on the shoulders of parental guidance and how they nurture their child's interests. 🙂
Actually, it is. The teacher chooses the curriculum, keeping in mind about fifteen titles designated for the SATs, a list that shifts from year to year. Given that, as a teacher, you actually have quite a bit of freedom to select many other works within the prescribed syllabus. As anyone working in American education knows, that syllabus is incredibly vast and rich; it certainly includes a wide array of stimulating, masterfully written pieces that leave lasting impressions on readers. For more ambitious or curious students, the curriculum can even be expanded with additional, equally or even more high-quality content. 🙂
Great. That's exactly why we have different types of schools and specialized programs; otherwise, everyone would just be stuck in prep school. But tell me—why is it that about 90% of the required reading list is identical across all high schools? I mean, back when I was in prep school, I only had to read specific chapters of the Iliad, the Odyssey, or the Bible... meanwhile, my cousin in vocational school was actually forced to read the entire Iliad and Odyssey from cover to cover. 😕
amberskipper3 said:Actually, I disagree. The whole point of required reading is to give students a roadmap of literary movements, history, theory, language, and the specific styles that defined different eras. We pick these specific works because they’re the clearest examples of those concepts in action. It's about teaching the fundamentals through representative classics.
But why? Why can't we just cover excerpts in textbooks instead? That’s how we handle historical periods anyway—it’s not like one single author defines an entire era we're studying for class. Maybe required reading could just be for deep analysis?
One more thing to consider: look at how we live today and all the other media out there. Everything is moving forward. It feels like that list of mandatory books is stuck somewhere back in the last century.😬
Trolling, in your case, basically means taking someone else's post, cutting it up, and twisting their words. To be honest, none of us really get what you're trying to achieve or what the point of your posts even is. 🤷It isn't about a simple disagreement—nobody is saying you can't have an opinion—but the way you go about it feels like you're trying to force your views on everyone else, which just isn't helpful or pleasant. People find it annoying. You've actually been asked on several threads before to stop communicating this way.
The moderators haven't done anything wrong; the moderator Fish already gave you a warning to back off and actually think about how you're posting.
rustybadger17 said:And over on MK, specifically in that women's anatomy thread, it's just flooded with those images—or rather, links leading straight to questionable content.
The links themselves aren't really the issue. It’s more about the actual images being posted using IMG code that causes problems.
They're going to be cleaning up and deleting stuff across all threads on the entire forum, not just in Offtopic or the gay corner. 😉 That specific thread was basically just the first active one where they realized it was too massive and packed with problematic images to effectively moderate, so it got locked for that reason alone—nothing else. There have actually been plenty of other threads cleared out from Offtopic too, though maybe you didn't notice since they were older, inactive ones. 😉
Since I'm technically in charge of the Offtopic section, I figured I’d weigh in here: You might have noticed that the forum is dealing with some technical hiccups, so we've had to disable IMG code everywhere. That means northernpilot2's warning wasn't just him being bossy or acting like a moderator for the sake of it 😉 So, if you could all just be patient and work with us, we'd really appreciate it. The forum is public, and what seems fine to a few of us might actually be an issue for the general public. It's kind of the same deal with this thread—even though it's "your" topic, it's still open for everyone to see 😉
A quick tip for next time: it's probably better to just post links to images rather than embedding them directly 😉 especially if you think the content might be considered "sensitive" by some people 😉
Honestly guys, this isn't some power trip from the mods, nor are we picking on your thread or you personally 😉 but moving forward, we really, really need to be careful with how images are handled.
I'm guessing you're asking this because Henry Moore2 and I mentioned in the Canada social thread that we aren't discussing emigration there.
That specific thread was really intended as a space for people already living in Canada—you know, for those who have their own local topics, day-to-day issues, or interests that don't involve visas, LMOs, and things like that.
If you want to talk about emigration or LMOs, you should probably head over to the Canada - Beginner's Guide thread. It was just opened specifically for questions regarding moving to Canada and the whole process. You might also want to check out some of the older, closed threads like Employment in Canada or Skilled worker - Canada.
Since we're currently reorganizing the diaspora section within the emigration sub-forum, I’d ask for a little patience. Once that's done, it’ll be much clearer where everything belongs and which threads cover what. 😉 There's a good chance some of those older threads will be reopened, too. It’s just a process that won't happen overnight, so maybe just hang tight for a bit. Until then, the best place for your interests would be the Beginner's Guide 😉
There isn't a solution here. It’s just not feasible—given that we’re a massive forum with huge daily traffic—to actually pull an idea like that off. We’d just end up with a mountain of threads containing zero, one, or two posts. Threads would be popping up at lightning speed, and honestly, most people don't even venture outside of their specific subforums anyway, so any "specialized" questions would likely go unanswered regardless.
From what I've seen, "where to buy" threads within individual topical subforums work perfectly fine, and I've never actually had a question left unanswered. It's much more likely that someone who exclusively hangs out in, say, fashion will pop into the fashion "where to buy" thread to provide an answer, rather than scrolling through a completely different subforum and digging through a sea of random thread titles just to find that one specific topic they might actually know something about.
Look, I know for a fact I wouldn't want to do it that way. I participate in the "where to buy" threads within my own subforum and I'll answer if I know the info. But am I going to head over to some other subforum and sift through a ton of threads just to find one or two things I can help with? Probably not. I don't have the time, and frankly, I don't have the desire.
brightpuma, the chemo costs aren't even included in the total. They mentioned this right at the end of the press conference—talking about a "third portion of the bill"—and they immediately noted that nobody actually knows what those extra expenses will look like yet. I guess it all depends on how Nora's body reacts to the treatment, so her dosage might vary, making it impossible to predict the final cost. Man... honestly, even without that, the total amount is dizzying. And we're talking about leukemia, where chemotherapy is, you know, just standard procedure. So, hearing that the chemo ISN'T included? That’s a massive shocker. which brings us back to that famous topic... Americans. 🙄
And what is there even to say about it? I mean, if we can't manage to establish order or justice in our own little corner of the world with its 4 million souls, why bother being outraged by bad Americans and their broken system? It's not like a million Noras would change anything, unfortunately. 😢 This is going to sound awful, I know... but God, if anyone of us or our loved ones ever falls that sick, the best we can hope for is that our only cure isn't located in America. 😢
To wrap this all up: as wonderful as the drive for Nora has been—warming all our hearts and providing a sense of hope that we so, so desperately lack in this country—and as much as we all stood together for Nora... there are just too many things leaving a nasty, bitter taste in my mouth. Everything from the mess in our own country all the way to Philadelphia.
I just want to thank everyone who supported the campaign and took part in it. Let's hope for the establishment of a foundation, the removal of sales tax on humanitarian efforts, and above all, that actual change to the law they discussed at the press conference. Because every single life—not just a child's—is far more important and precious than every damn bridge, arena, fountain, or stadium out there.
When you say "someone"... are you referring to Americans or people from back home? Because if we're talking about Americans, to me, it all feels... normal? I know that sounds terrible to say, but I think we're all pretty aware that their healthcare system is incredibly unfair and that everything there is basically built on money. I followed the press conference live, so here is how they explained those extra costs. Basically, that $25,000 is for Nora's treatment once she arrives. The other $13,000 covers all the checkups and therapies (and according to her mother, these will happen every three months) over the next two years. Yeah, it does leave you wondering why they weren't told that right away. The least vague part of this whole thing is the fact that they have to pay that extra cash upfront regardless—meaning, not necessarily the second they check into the hospital, but very soon after, if I caught that correctly during the presser—within 30 days at the latest. And if that extra money hadn't shown up in their account, they wouldn't have even received the visa!! And thirdly, this isn't the end of the story. In fact, those millions don't even include the chemotherapy Nora will be starting immediately during this first round of treatment, and nobody even knows yet how much that is going to cost.
All in all, it makes your head spin when you add up the costs, especially when you realize that isn't even the final figure😲 just for the medical care itself. I'm not even factoring in the secondary expenses (travel, living in the States...)—honestly, it's overwhelming. I believe that if this were happening at some European clinic, or even a clinic somewhere else in the world besides the US, the total sum would be far, far smaller. And I don't think anyone is getting rich or profiting here except for the American pharmaceutical corporations. To them, no one's life—not even a child's life—really matters. It's only about the dollars.
Amanda Diaz said:Why should anyone on a forum be held responsible? You shared the news; whether someone chooses to act on it or not is entirely their own business. If I start a thread claiming World War III has broken out, and some idiots on the stock market panic and tanked share prices because of it, am I the one at fault, or are those idiots? I’ve actually been messaging the administrator about this exact topic. I told her straight up that I’ve been swindled that way several times in my life. Does that mean we shouldn't give money—even if it's pocket change to me—to the next person who says they desperately need it?
Personally, I’d rather be scammed by three more people like Nora for a few cents than fail to help one little Nora who actually needs it.
Look, that’s exactly where the issue lies. As a media outlet—like a platform like Reddit—by publishing and backing unverified fundraisers, we could actually end up doing way more harm than good. Why? Because, honestly, a huge number of people don't think quite like you do. If they get scammed once—even just by a few bucks—they might lose all faith in giving altogether, and that ends up hurting someone else who truly needs help down the road.
We aren't just individuals—we are the Borg. 🤣And we really need to be careful about what we put out there as media—especially since we've already been burned a few times before.
I just wanted to weigh in here—since I was actually one of the people asking for a global announcement for Nora, I think it's important to note how unique her story is. It’s been picked up by absolutely every media outlet and social media platform out there; the whole country and even parts of Europe have taken notice. Plus, all donations are being handled through an official association rather than some random private bank account. That’s why I felt that we, as the largest forum in the US, should do our part and support the cause via a global announcement.
Just to reiterate, Nora's situation is special, and it had already made a massive impact everywhere before any global announcement was even posted.
On another note, I am strictly against the forum supporting or posting announcements for every single cause that pops up in the news. As incredible as it might seem to some of you, yes, there are people out there who exploit their own child's illness. We've seen it all happen on forums before, and we've had some pretty unpleasant experiences here at Rid, which is exactly why the decision was made to only support actions that go through verified non-profit organizations. Everything else—as harsh as that may sound—doesn't belong in the global announcements.
Besides, global announcements really should involve two-way communication; you need the organizers, the association, or someone truly involved in the situation who can provide timely and accurate info. It shouldn't just be a copy-paste job from a news article.
So, my takeaway is that we should probably avoid drifting off-topic with all those other issues😬 The American education system needs a total overhaul—and I don't just mean changing the reading list.
Maybe our grandkids will actually see that happen🤔
Summer, you basically just summarized my solution yourself. That’s what I’ve been getting at this whole time—we need an update. New genres, more breathing room... I mean, back in elementary school, we had maybe two or three books to choose from per year, so why shouldn't high school be the same? 🤷 I think I mentioned earlier this afternoon that I wouldn't cut the classics entirely, but maybe we could pair them with something "lighter" and more modern afterward.
Obviously, one person's masterpiece is another person's nightmare. And look, you're never going to please everyone by picking mandatory reading. But let's be honest—the current list is just bad, and most teenagers find it incredibly boring.
Maybe my perspective on required reading is totally off, but to me, it isn't just about general knowledge. It's about fostering a love—or okay, maybe even a hatred 🤣—for books, character development, searching for deeper meanings, and actually building a habit of reading. Most of what's assigned in high school right now doesn't offer any of that because it's just confusing, tedious, and hard to wrap your head around.
And yeah, I guess 40% of kids would probably still complain. But right now, it feels like 90%, if not more. 😬
The truth of the matter depends heavily on the professor. Even back in high school, we didn't really sit down to read the assigned books. Instead, we'd just tackle them during dedicated seminar days—which, I guess, didn't exactly stop the frustration. Then there was all the scrambling to find study guides, or having those classmates who actually finished the book summarize everything so the rest of us could prepare... you know how it goes.
brightpuma said:To be honest, a kid could learn a lot from The Trial and the Castle. They could draw parallels to how bureaucracy works today. It's a book worth reading. 👍
So we're back to the original question: what is the point of school reading lists? Or better yet, what *should* the purpose be today, now that books are dying and reading culture is fading? Shouldn't the priority be getting kids interested in reading, fostering a love for books, rather than systematically shoving "the classics" down their throats when they find them totally repulsive?
Oh, come on. The curriculum exists to build a general sense of culture. I know plenty of people who brag about reading maybe two assigned books, while they just copied the summaries for everything else—you can actually tell when someone is missing that foundation. Another thing: there's this push here to make us read certain American authors in their entirety. Look, if I haven't read the whole Iliad or all of Dante's Hell, why should I have to read all of Judith? 🤷
Honestly, I truly believe a much smaller percentage of high school books would have permanently disgusted me if I'd picked them up later, once I was a bit more mature.
It depends. Take a cliché example. What do you think about The Little Prince? You likely encountered it in elementary school and then again (when you were older) in high school.
Edit: Looking at the extreme list, it confirms almost nothing has changed since I graduated. And Combray is right at the beginning, just to kill you off at the very start of the school year. 🤣 Kafka is right on its heels.
Combray feels like a punishment, sure, but I don't get why everyone is attacking Kafka so hard? I mean, The Trial and the Castle might be a bit tedious, but they're good books. And Metamorphosis is honestly one of the better ones in high school generally. Very deep, lots to think about. You have to remember these are meant for seniors—it's right around the time they can actually grasp them.
I don't know, it was just miserable for me. 🙂 I hit page 50 and just quit. When people actually explained the plot to me, it sounded interesting enough. 🙄
Anna Karenina is amazing. Had to write a paper on that one too. Looking back, I guess I always did have a thing for those massive doorstops... Madame Bovary is great. And don't forget Zola. And things didn't all go downhill right after that. 🙂
To be honest, I can't recall much from later on, but those were the last books that really grabbed me. Kafka, Anna Karenina, Madame Bovary...
Just look at this reading list they put together for fourth grade. Half of it could easily be cut. 🤷 Fragrance, Gold, and Incense? Come on... 🙄 I felt like that book was literally sucking the life out of me...
The keyword here is child. Honestly, back when I was 17 or 18, things like bureaucracy, politics, or even the harsh realities of the world we live in weren't even on my radar—it just wasn't something I had to worry about. If I were to face that entire process today, the experience would be completely different. Guaranteed. As it stands, though, it just left me with nothing but trauma and... 😕 Right over our heads.
brightpuma said:To be honest, a kid could learn a lot from The Trial and the Castle. They could draw parallels to how bureaucracy works today. It's a book worth reading. 👍
So we're back to the original question: what is the point of school reading lists? Or better yet, what *should* the purpose be today, now that books are dying and reading culture is fading? Shouldn't the priority be getting kids interested in reading, fostering a love for books, rather than systematically shoving "the classics" down their throats when they find them totally repulsive?
Oh, come on. The curriculum exists to build a general sense of culture. I know plenty of people who brag about reading maybe two assigned books, while they just copied the summaries for everything else—you can actually tell when someone is missing that foundation. Another thing: there's this push here to make us read certain American authors in their entirety. Look, if I haven't read the whole Iliad or all of Dante's Hell, why should I have to read all of Judith? 🤷
Honestly, I truly believe a much smaller percentage of high school books would have permanently disgusted me if I'd picked them up later, once I was a bit more mature.
It depends. Take a cliché example. What do you think about The Little Prince? You likely encountered it in elementary school and then again (when you were older) in high school.
Edit: Looking at the extreme list, it confirms almost nothing has changed since I graduated. And Combray is right at the beginning, just to kill you off at the very start of the school year. 🤣 Kafka is right on its heels.
Combray feels like a punishment, sure, but I don't get why everyone is attacking Kafka so hard? I mean, The Trial and the Castle might be a bit tedious, but they're good books. And Metamorphosis is honestly one of the better ones in high school generally. Very deep, lots to think about. You have to remember these are meant for seniors—it's right around the time they can actually grasp them.
I don't know, it was just miserable for me. 🙂 I hit page 50 and just quit. When people actually explained the plot to me, it sounded interesting enough. 🙄
Anna Karenina is amazing. Had to write a paper on that one too. Looking back, I guess I always did have a thing for those massive doorstops... Madame Bovary is great. And don't forget Zola. And things didn't all go downhill right after that. 🙂
To be honest, I can't recall much from later on, but those were the last books that really grabbed me. Kafka, Anna Karenina, Madame Bovary...
Just look at this reading list they put together for fourth grade. Half of it could easily be cut. 🤷 Fragrance, Gold, and Incense? Come on... 🙄 I felt like that book was literally sucking the life out of me...
Look, that’s not really about the assigned reading list. I know plenty of people who skipped their required school books entirely—just copied the summaries—but they spend all their free time devouring other novels because they actually find literature interesting. I don't get the impression that they lack eloquence or general cultural knowledge just because of that. Skipping one specific book for class is one thing—it's a completely different story if you don't read anything at all. 😉
brightpuma said:To be honest, a kid could learn a lot from The Trial and the Castle. They could draw parallels to how bureaucracy works today. It's a book worth reading. 👍
So we're back to the original question: what is the point of school reading lists? Or better yet, what *should* the purpose be today, now that books are dying and reading culture is fading? Shouldn't the priority be getting kids interested in reading, fostering a love for books, rather than systematically shoving "the classics" down their throats when they find them totally repulsive?
Oh, come on. The curriculum exists to build a general sense of culture. I know plenty of people who brag about reading maybe two assigned books, while they just copied the summaries for everything else—you can actually tell when someone is missing that foundation. Another thing: there's this push here to make us read certain American authors in their entirety. Look, if I haven't read the whole Iliad or all of Dante's Hell, why should I have to read all of Judith? 🤷
Honestly, I truly believe a much smaller percentage of high school books would have permanently disgusted me if I'd picked them up later, once I was a bit more mature.
It depends. Take a cliché example. What do you think about The Little Prince? You likely encountered it in elementary school and then again (when you were older) in high school.
Edit: Looking at the extreme list, it confirms almost nothing has changed since I graduated. And Combray is right at the beginning, just to kill you off at the very start of the school year. 🤣 Kafka is right on its heels.
Combray feels like a punishment, sure, but I don't get why everyone is attacking Kafka so hard? I mean, The Trial and the Castle might be a bit tedious, but they're good books. And Metamorphosis is honestly one of the better ones in high school generally. Very deep, lots to think about. You have to remember these are meant for seniors—it's right around the time they can actually grasp them.
I don't know, it was just miserable for me. 🙂 I hit page 50 and just quit. When people actually explained the plot to me, it sounded interesting enough. 🙄
Anna Karenina is amazing. Had to write a paper on that one too. Looking back, I guess I always did have a thing for those massive doorstops... Madame Bovary is great. And don't forget Zola. And things didn't all go downhill right after that. 🙂
To be honest, I can't recall much from later on, but those were the last books that really grabbed me. Kafka, Anna Karenina, Madame Bovary...
Just look at this reading list they put together for fourth grade. Half of it could easily be cut. 🤷 Fragrance, Gold, and Incense? Come on... 🙄 I felt like that book was literally sucking the life out of me...
I have no idea how this happened, but I never actually had to read *The Little Prince*—not in elementary school, not in middle school, not even once. 🤷 I just started my studies at teacher's college, so I guess I can't really give you an answer to that question yet. 🤷
brightpuma said:To be honest, a kid could learn a lot from The Trial and the Castle. They could draw parallels to how bureaucracy works today. It's a book worth reading. 👍
So we're back to the original question: what is the point of school reading lists? Or better yet, what *should* the purpose be today, now that books are dying and reading culture is fading? Shouldn't the priority be getting kids interested in reading, fostering a love for books, rather than systematically shoving "the classics" down their throats when they find them totally repulsive?
Oh, come on. The curriculum exists to build a general sense of culture. I know plenty of people who brag about reading maybe two assigned books, while they just copied the summaries for everything else—you can actually tell when someone is missing that foundation. Another thing: there's this push here to make us read certain American authors in their entirety. Look, if I haven't read the whole Iliad or all of Dante's Hell, why should I have to read all of Judith? 🤷
Honestly, I truly believe a much smaller percentage of high school books would have permanently disgusted me if I'd picked them up later, once I was a bit more mature.
It depends. Take a cliché example. What do you think about The Little Prince? You likely encountered it in elementary school and then again (when you were older) in high school.
Edit: Looking at the extreme list, it confirms almost nothing has changed since I graduated. And Combray is right at the beginning, just to kill you off at the very start of the school year. 🤣 Kafka is right on its heels.
Combray feels like a punishment, sure, but I don't get why everyone is attacking Kafka so hard? I mean, The Trial and the Castle might be a bit tedious, but they're good books. And Metamorphosis is honestly one of the better ones in high school generally. Very deep, lots to think about. You have to remember these are meant for seniors—it's right around the time they can actually grasp them.
I don't know, it was just miserable for me. 🙂 I hit page 50 and just quit. When people actually explained the plot to me, it sounded interesting enough. 🙄
Anna Karenina is amazing. Had to write a paper on that one too. Looking back, I guess I always did have a thing for those massive doorstops... Madame Bovary is great. And don't forget Zola. And things didn't all go downhill right after that. 🙂
To be honest, I can't recall much from later on, but those were the last books that really grabbed me. Kafka, Anna Karenina, Madame Bovary...
Just look at this reading list they put together for fourth grade. Half of it could easily be cut. 🤷 Fragrance, Gold, and Incense? Come on... 🙄 I felt like that book was literally sucking the life out of me...
I thought the transformation was amazing too 😁 I’ve mentioned this before—it was smooth and easy to grasp. The process, however? Not so much. That part was pure torture. As for that castle nonsense, we didn't even bother reading 😳
Jessica Kelly4 said:Why suffer through a book that doesn't grab you? Give it a shot—maybe fifty pages, maybe a hundred, whatever your patience allows—but if it doesn't pull you in, isn't it just more honest to admit it's a dud? 🤷
Exactly. The issue with current required reading lists is that most of them are just incredibly dense and boring, yet they absolutely have to be finished. Otherwise, there are consequences. Sure, saying "I didn't get past page 50 because I couldn't make sense of any of it" isn't really an option, since kids would start using that excuse for every single book pretty quickly 🤣 That’s actually why we need variety in school reading lists. It would break up the monotony of those heavy, unreadable books (especially in high school 🙄 where almost nothing makes sense because of all the archaic language and old dialects). If they threw in something like Stasio, one of the Kishons, or even some of that increasingly popular fantasy, you'd see how many students would actually enjoy reading. It would make everything easier, and reading wouldn't feel like such a chore or a total turn-off for everyone.
brisktiger56 said:What kind of "shot" are we talking about here? A chance to read?
Anyone can learn to read, and books are everywhere—the real issue is the environment they’re raised in at home, isn't it?
Not really. No one in my house reads. Honestly, almost nobody in my circle does, aside from a few girlfriends. Still, I managed to develop a genuine love for reading on my own—well, except for a pretty dark period during high school and right after. But that’s a whole other long story, I guess. This thread is supposed to be about required school reading lists. How am I supposed to tell my kid one day, "Honey, please read *The Process*, it's an incredibly esteemed and important book," when it left me (and clearly others here too) with deep-seated trauma? 🤷 The only thing I could probably say is, "Ugh, just deal with it, I had to, too," and then encourage them to go find some therapy through a much more normal novel. 🤣
I'm not pretending these aren't valuable, great works of literature. I said that right at the start of this discussion. I don't think they should be kicked out of schools or textbooks—good grief. But they shouldn't be the foundation of a mandatory reading list. They aren't engaging, and frankly, they aren't suited for teenagers at all. Almost any of them could be studied in class just as effectively—if not more so—than many of the other books currently stuck in the American curriculum.
So, we're back to the original question: what is the actual point of required school reading? Or better yet, given that physical books are dying and reading culture is fading, what *should* the purpose be today? Isn't it more important to actually get kids interested in reading—to spark that curiosity—rather than systematically forcing them through "great" works that are just plain repulsive? 🤷
Honestly, I truly believe that if I hadn't been forced to tackle so many of these high school staples until I was older and more mature, I wouldn't have grown to hate them so permanently.
It would be really interesting to see the reading lists used in other countries, though.
edit: Looking at Kate Cox2's list, it seems like almost nothing has changed since I graduated. And *Combray* is right there at the beginning, just to kill you off the moment the school year starts. 🤣 Franz Kafka is hot on its heels. 🙄
Looking at this list, it seems like some things have shifted since I was in school. We actually moved a few books from junior year to senior year.
Whoops😁 where's Kafka? 🤣 Some parts still feel a bit off to me, but if this is actually the current reading list, I see some improvements. 🙏 Though, it feels suspiciously short for high school seniors. No Cyclops? No way, I don't think they'd ever cut that. And Anna Karenina?
I honestly doubt this is the official list approved by the Department of Education.
Does anyone know where I can find a current list of required reading? I'm mostly looking for high school level stuff. I'm curious if there's been any changes lately—it seems like everyone still talks about the exact same books, so maybe we're all just equally traumatized by them 🤣