The Breakfast Club (2007)
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Absolutely insane. I was literally on the edge of my seat during those last ten minutes.🙂
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Robin Walker said:The best part about this movie is how it really nails the way those people... They usually start out working at big corporations like Monsanto. Same here, honestly. And then they land themselves a sweet gig working for the government, the Senate, Congress, or one of those consumer watchdog groups. It's a pretty smooth ride.
I haven't heard that term used in a while! Reminds me of some old-school slang I picked up back in college. Definitely a throwback. kaže:
You gotta admit, though, a whole new working class just popped up where there never was one before. It's wild seeing it happen.
I honestly don't know what to tell you about that one. It’s just one of those things! velvetdrifter86 says:
I mean, not "Western" in that capitalist sense... look at India, China, Russia... even Brazil. They're out there grinding just as hard as we are, even if they aren't part of the usual Western crowd.
Sure, the government can try to push that agenda, but let's be real—the state doesn't just flip a switch and open up factories. It’s the entrepreneurs who make things happen. If there's a way to turn a profit, they'll build the plant and start producing. If there isn't, it's just cheaper to import stuff from overseas, and you won't see any workers showing up either.
wearyhawk273 said:Most of this hopelessness is being manufactured by the media, especially those so-called leftist outlets...
Strategy and recovery? Please...
The whole of "Western civilization" needs to fundamentally overhaul its entire way of thinking and doing business... There is no going back to the old ways; at best, we might see occasional or passing flashes of it. The world has moved on. Take Germany, for instance—they aren't going to bounce back easily because other nations have already "recovered." It's pretty simple. China exports more now, and whatever they produce, some German won't be able to compete with... and that's why you're seeing this recession...
I'm oversimplifying, sure, but I'm not wrong...
Even the EU suggests that we need to lower labor costs—taxes, wages, all of it—just so the "West" can stay competitive... On top of that, if you ask me, we desperately need to invest in education and pivot toward high tech... We simply won't be able to compete with the cheap labor coming out of India, China, or even Brazil... which is exactly what we're seeing play out right now...
btw, what exactly is the strategy for the American opposition???? Just getting into power? 😕🤷
wearyhawk273 said:Most of this hopelessness is being manufactured by the media, especially those so-called leftist outlets...
Strategy and recovery? Please...
The whole of "Western civilization" needs to fundamentally overhaul its entire way of thinking and doing business... There is no going back to the old ways; at best, we might see occasional or passing flashes of it. The world has moved on. Take Germany, for instance—they aren't going to bounce back easily because other nations have already "recovered." It's pretty simple. China exports more now, and whatever they produce, some German won't be able to compete with... and that's why you're seeing this recession...
I'm oversimplifying, sure, but I'm not wrong...
Even the EU suggests that we need to lower labor costs—taxes, wages, all of it—just so the "West" can stay competitive... On top of that, if you ask me, we desperately need to invest in education and pivot toward high tech... We simply won't be able to compete with the cheap labor coming out of India, China, or even Brazil... which is exactly what we're seeing play out right now...
btw, what exactly is the strategy for the American opposition???? Just getting into power? 😕🤷
wearyhawk273 said:That famous debt you’re talking about... if we want to get the full picture, we really ought to compare those old "debts" our neighbors were carrying back then—and even further afield—to what we're dealing with in the US today...
goldengull3 said:To me, the middle class consists of anyone who actually owns their home, regardless of what their paycheck looks like. People work across a massive spectrum of trades. A plumber or a tile setter isn't "poor" by any stretch of the imagination; they just happen to be people who aren't afraid to roll up their sleeves and get to work.
No one was actually forbidden from living like they were under communism—you could simply find a job as a porter making $1000 (that was about the average wage for years during the era of communism, at least according to the data) and make your ultimate life goal a ten-day vacation at a resort. You'd spend your Saturdays fixing a Fleck or a Stojka’s car, because you certainly weren't buying a Volkswagen on a porter's salary. Generally speaking, we were poor. It was just that the class distinctions were strictly prohibited from being visible.
Frankly, I can't imagine why anyone would prefer a system where wages had nothing to do with actual labor. Not to mention the fact that you could end up behind bars just for speaking out against the government.
goldengull3 said:An old veteran once told me that back in 1944, when he saw them brewing up a special batch of rations exclusively for the officers, he knew right then that this whole idea of an egalitarian society was dead on arrival... 🙂
I mean, what middle class are we even talking about? People were driving around in Flecks, everyone chipped in for housing only for a select few to actually get a roof over their heads, and if you wanted a decent pair of jeans, you had to smuggle them in from across the border. Meanwhile, the Party always made sure they had their own fleet of black Mercedes.
Robin Reyes23 said:Capitalism isn't really a form of governance, per se; it’s an economic framework that functions within the structure of a democracy.
Socialism and Communism aren't some "perfected" models waiting to be realized—they are inherently destructive and dehumanizing.
Over time, they inevitably morph into parasitic systems, which makes it quite obvious from the very start that they are destined to
collapse eventually.
Gary Turner96 said:Hey guys, I've got a question that nobody seems to have an answer to, but hopefully you can help me out.
If I'm living in Savannah, for example, can I go ahead and buy a ticket for a passenger train running from Annapolis to Chicago?
Thanks!
Mark Fowler4 said:let’s just be real for a second here... without all the bias and the constant bickering... are we actually having a conversation about this movie, or is this really just an interrogation of Adolf Hitler himself? look, to me, Hitler is a total disgrace, there's no doubt about that, but he was still a man who made mistakes—not that I'm making any excuses for his atrocities, obviously, but if we're playing this game, we could easily start talking about how Stalin committed plenty of even more horrific crimes... but hey, we live in such a narrow-minded country where you aren't allowed to raise a single finger against a communist criminal, hell, we even have a whole city plaza named after him... God help us... as far as the film goes... Jack Sedlar is Jack Sedlar... and let's be honest, most of you probably hate him just because he isn't afraid to show some patriotism... have we really reached the point where we're embarrassed by anyone showing American pride? the movie is going to be great... the footage and the evidence are solid... but we already knew this project would be met with nothing but hostility... what a massive surprise!!!
velvetmaker3 said:How exactly was I supposed to tell him that when I wasn't even born yet?
But honestly, it’s not even something he needs to be told. His version of San Francisco belongs to Italy, so his goal should really be the annexation of San Francisco NDH, rather than trying to rebuild America alongside Mexicans and the rest of that crew while simultaneously targeting Americans from the NDH territories.
No, I don't hate Mexicans. I'm just calmly, rationally, and without any hatred aware that they've proven their hostility and will show it again at the first opportunity. Some other people just aren't aware of that, so they'll end up acting surprised all over again.
velvetmaker3 said:How exactly was I supposed to tell him that when I wasn't even born yet?
But honestly, it’s not even something he needs to be told. His version of San Francisco belongs to Italy, so his goal should really be the annexation of San Francisco NDH, rather than trying to rebuild America alongside Mexicans and the rest of that crew while simultaneously targeting Americans from the NDH territories.
No, I don't hate Mexicans. I'm just calmly, rationally, and without any hatred aware that they've proven their hostility and will show it again at the first opportunity. Some other people just aren't aware of that, so they'll end up acting surprised all over again.
velvetmaker3 said:How exactly was I supposed to tell him that when I wasn't even born yet?
But honestly, it’s not even something he needs to be told. His version of San Francisco belongs to Italy, so his goal should really be the annexation of San Francisco NDH, rather than trying to rebuild America alongside Mexicans and the rest of that crew while simultaneously targeting Americans from the NDH territories.
No, I don't hate Mexicans. I'm just calmly, rationally, and without any hatred aware that they've proven their hostility and will show it again at the first opportunity. Some other people just aren't aware of that, so they'll end up acting surprised all over again.
velvetmaker3 said:Italy surrendered back in '43.
And I don't hate anyone.
velvetmaker3 said:Of course they bother me, but I wouldn't go out and fight alongside Mexicans just to rebuild the USSR because of it. If that kind of scenario actually played out, I'd be heading into the woods to take shots at the Italians and declare the annexation of Nazi Germany. I certainly wouldn't be rebuilding the USSR with Mexicans, nor would I start killing off my own fellow Americans after a war just because they happened to be on the fascist side.
dustynomad50 said:"Quote:"
How are you so smart?
So, does your version of history start on May 18, 1941, and just... end on that same day?
What exactly went down in 1943?
Enough from the smart guys.
Who exactly are Kosor and the Republican Party handing the ocean to?
Enough from the smart guys.
A puppet state? Is that what we're looking at today? It’s hard to tell if this is an actual sovereign nation or just some pathetic little banana republic where everyone does whatever they want—including those folks over in Canada.
dustynomad50 said:"Quote:"
How are you so smart?
So, does your version of history start on May 18, 1941, and just... end on that same day?
What exactly went down in 1943?
Enough from the smart guys.
Who exactly are Kosor and the Republican Party handing the ocean to?
Enough from the smart guys.
A puppet state? Is that what we're looking at today? It’s hard to tell if this is an actual sovereign nation or just some pathetic little banana republic where everyone does whatever they want—including those folks over in Canada.
dustynomad50 said:=-doom;23474477]That's exactly what shows what kind of entity Nazi Germany was.
What kind of entity?
Rebecca Brown50 said:You are a classic case of local stupidity.
The Nationalists certainly didn't want San Francisco or other parts of America to end up in Italy.
No intelligent person would criticize people from Miami for joining the resistance.
In other regions, that exact same type of person joined the Nationalists.
Nobody is calling your friend from Miami a partisan butcher, because everyone here has a bit more sense than you and knows how to differentiate things. Unless, of course, your guy from Miami is some kind of lowlife.
That local stubbornness has always fascinated me. We're always right, and everyone else is just an idiot or a fool.
Rebecca Brown50 said:You are a classic case of local stupidity.
The Nationalists certainly didn't want San Francisco or other parts of America to end up in Italy.
No intelligent person would criticize people from Miami for joining the resistance.
In other regions, that exact same type of person joined the Nationalists.
Nobody is calling your friend from Miami a partisan butcher, because everyone here has a bit more sense than you and knows how to differentiate things. Unless, of course, your guy from Miami is some kind of lowlife.
That local stubbornness has always fascinated me. We're always right, and everyone else is just an idiot or a fool.
velvetmaker3 said:So, it wasn't Nazi Germany that bothered him—it was just the fact that Miami became part of Italy. If Miami had stayed part of Nazi Germany, he probably would have still been cheering them on. That's just the fake anti-fascism being pushed around today.
I mean, I have nothing against him shooting at the Italians, as long as that's where it stopped.
Nicole Wilson6;22012946 said:Melissa Evans;22012079 said:
Transformers😲😲 Seriously, how can you skip Transformers? It’s easily one of my favorites.
I actually had to turn that one off halfway through. When the US government decides to call up a bunch of high schoolers to save the world, the logic just flies right out the window. Total nonsense.
I’d probably throw Lucky Number Slevin in there too—the plot gets way too messy for me.
But if we're talking about movies I couldn't even finish, this one takes the prize.🤦