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Overrated athletes? in Other Sports ·
Raymond Harris4 said:Every now and then—just in little bursts—I’d find myself following Formula 1 (though I wouldn't say I'm an expert by any means). One of those periods was back in the late '80s, when Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna were absolutely tearing it up. After Senna passed away, I stopped watching, and then I "came back" a few years later. The first thing that hit me—and man, did it hit hard—was this overwhelming sense of mediocrity. You had Michael Schumacher... and then just a bunch of decent drivers, but nobody really stood out from the pack, which is why I quickly lost interest again.

Another thing was this glaring lack of guts among the drivers. Back in Senna's era, drivers were actually trying to overtake and muscle their way past one another in the truest sense of the word; they took massive risks. Nowadays, it feels like everything just relies on the team's overarching strategy. Overtaking in Formula 1 used to be like scoring goals in soccer, but sadly, those moves have become rarer and rarer over the years. What’s your take on that?


When it comes to Formula 1 and the '80s (which I remember pretty well), the whole perception has shifted massively over the last 15 years or so. Certain things—like Senna—have basically crossed over into the realm of pure mythology.

People love to toss around the phrase "golden age" these days, but honestly? Aside from a handful of elite drivers, there has never been a time in Formula 1 history where the field was as filled with mediocre talent as it was back then. Most races (probably 90% of them) were—just like today—boring as hell. Getting points was incomparably easier than it is now. Being "good enough" basically meant just keeping the car running until the end of the race, which most of the time, they didn't even manage to do. Over the last couple of seasons (ignoring last year), the gap between the fastest and slowest car was barely more than a second. In the '80s, that was the gap between the leader and whoever was closest to him! Because of that massive disparity between cars—not to even get into the evolution of brakes, tires, and aerodynamics since then—overtaking was way easier back in the day than it is now. It's not that today's drivers lack courage; they're just clinically perfect "machines" now.

As for Senna, to me, he's the ultimate example of an "overhyped sporting icon."

He was lucky enough to compete in an era when sports info trickled out to the public in tiny droplets.

I mean, how do you think a driver today—in an age where every single sentence is dissected under a microscope—would fare if they claimed to have seen Jesus during a race, or admitted to having an "unusual" attraction to young boys, or whatever...

But unfortunately, he died, and the myth was born.
Brazil vs. USA - Nov 7, 2010 in Formula 1 ·
So, that’s all I’ve got regarding the bone-dry setup for the Haas F1 Team...

It’s basically just a little train chugging along...
Brazil vs. USA - Nov 7, 2010 in Formula 1 ·
mistybear87 said:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88015

But honestly, maybe that isn't even the case 😁

Yeah, but if you check out those speed trap numbers from practice, Nico Hulkenberg is actually one of the slowest...7.5 miles/slower than Jenson Button, for instance—which was the main reason Jens struggled to get his tires up to temperature during qualifying, since he was running a low downforce setup

On the flip side, Hulk is running a high downforce setup, which makes it basically the perfect configuration for the kind of track conditions we saw in Q3...

I mean, Ferrari and Red Bull are only a tiny bit faster than Williams, so anything could happen...

Anyway, provided he doesn't mess up the start, I think Hulk might just pull off a train of cars like we haven't seen since the glory days of Jarno Trulli... 😁

It would be a dream scenario for the drivers who decide to go with the harder tire compounds at the start (maybe Jenson Button, Kamui Kobayashi, or Nico Rosberg?)
Brazil vs. USA - Nov 7, 2010 in Formula 1 ·
mistybear87 said:Thanks to those little witches who sent me the results even though I didn't ask for them😠😠
now the whole fun of watching and being surprised is totally ruined for me👎

but whatever, at least he's sitting on pole. I mean, will he lose any spots tomorrow? That'll be toughif he’s got a dry setup while everyone else is dealing with wet tracks🙏🙏

Luckily enough, I'm heading out for a few drinks tonight—now I actually have a solid excuse🙏 🙏

Talk about bad luck... Hulkenberg is the only one with a wet weather setup.😁

Tires were everything in Q3, and honestly, it isn't hard to guess why Marvel got them up to temperature faster than anyone else...
Brazil vs. USA - Nov 7, 2010 in Formula 1 ·
Some great laps there...

Hulkenberg is basically praying to every god in existence tonight that we get some rain tomorrow...

Having all that extra downforce compared to the guys running a full dry setup tomorrow is going to be a massive headache for him...
United States GP - Sep 26, 2010 in Formula 1 ·
Does anyone know how to get a hold of Fernando Alonso?

I’m thinking about organizing a little meetup—just so those two commentators can finally get down on their knees and give him what he deserves. Honestly, it's the one thing they haven't done yet.
United States GP - Sep 26, 2010 in Formula 1 ·
Hands down, the most boring Formula 1 race I've ever sat through.

Honestly, just watching the rain hit my window is way more entertaining than this...

Thank goodness the race is at Dover tonight.
GP Germany - 07/25/2010 in Formula 1 ·
Alonso and Ferrari are basically a pair of gloves that were custom-made just for them...

Looking at everything going down over at Renault and Ferrari lately, I feel like anyone who isn't some die-hard FA fanatic can see exactly what his issue was back at McLaren in 2007... the guy just organically can't stand having equals on his team...
GP Germany - 07/25/2010 in Formula 1 ·
mistybear87 said:Ferrari has been slapped with a $100,000 fine, and the whole situation is being handed over to the World motorsport Council because of the damage done to the sport's reputation.

So, what does that actually mean? Well, I suppose there is more to come...

It feels a lot like what happened back in 2002, though the fine isn't quite as heavy this time. We'll just have to wait and see how the World motorsport Council decides to rule...

Major props to Paul Stoddard. I honestly don't know how he pulled it off, but his team (Minardi) is the only one that didn't end up facing the World motorsport Council when Alonso was driving for them... 😁
2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11) in Formula 1 ·
stormybadger8 said:Honestly, I’m just fascinated by this—I can’t wrap my head around how he does it. It’s like he always manages to jump ahead right at the start, yet somehow, we never actually see him overtake anyone on track... or at least, I don't see it.😕

I mean, seriously, I don't get it. I honestly can't recall a single one of Jenson Button's overtakes, and there had to be at least eight!😕

Is it just that he nails his pit stops and starts every single time? Or does the director just hate him and refuse to show his moves?🤷

Basically, he pulls off what Michael Schumacher used to do during his prime days—though, let's be real, it's hard to remember many of his actual overtakes either. When he needs to go, he just puts in these incredible laps (you can totally see it if you're watching the live timing) and steadily gains a few spots that way. The biggest factor is strategy; this year, I don't think they missed a beat once, usually picking something completely different from the competition...

And for everyone screaming about how the guy doesn't know how to pass—look, Button is actually one of those rare drivers who has overtaken Fernando Alonso, Michael Schumacher, Kimi Räikkönen, Felipe Massa, Juan Pablo Montoya, Lewis Hamilton, and pretty much everyone else multiple times throughout his career...
2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11) in Formula 1 ·
Nicole Reyes97 said:this whole Red Bull Racing setup just isn't looking too bright 😬

"Not bad for a number two driver!" — Webber said it best! 😂🤣 ☕
2010 British GP - Silverstone (July 11) in Formula 1 ·
Karma really comes full circle sometimes!

Krelac finally got exactly what was coming to him! 😂
F1 British GP - Indianapolis - July 11, 2010 in Formula 1 ·
Krelac ended up snapping his front wing during the final practice session, which left Red Bull scrambling to figure out what to put on his car.

And guess what they chose to do?

Since they were down to their last two fresh spares, they decided the "fair" thing was to just rip the entire assembly right off Webber's car and slap it onto that arrogant little "golden boy's" machine... 🤣

Honestly, I hope they keep pulling stunts like they did back in Turkey at every single race for the rest of the season... ☕
US Grand Prix 2010 in Formula 1 ·
F1Lite - "Meanwhile, Bridgestone have announced it will be "impossible" to complete the 70 lap Canadian GP without atleast two pitstops"

😍
Pros and Cons of Sebastian Vettel in Formula 1 ·
stormyviper11 said:Let's put it this way:

So, are we really saying that the championship title comes down to whether or not some drivers can smash their cars through a solid stone wall? Seriously?

Honestly, Michael Schumacher would have probably rounded up a whole crew of people just to help him hoist his car over a wall—and then he’d actually go right ahead and hop over it himself.
So, Jenson Button was basically trying to coordinate his crew to move the car, but—get this—he actually slipped and wiped out himself! Honestly, if he didn't end up breaking a leg, he definitely went right over the wall.
Honestly, Lewis Hamilton basically drove full throttle straight into a wall just trying to force a pass—and then had the nerve to blame the wall for the crash!
Sebastian Vettel would probably throw himself against a wall and then spend the rest of the night tearfully apologizing to the crew and the fans for being such an idiot.
Fernando Alonso would probably just round up a whole crew of people and find some way to scale that wall—but honestly, every third or fourth time I tried, I’d just lose my mind waiting around and end up trying to tear the damn thing down myself.
Felipe Massa would've just burst into tears right in Pete Bonnington's arms—he wouldn't have even bothered trying to clear that wall.
The rest of them wouldn't even know which way to turn, let alone find a way through—though maybe Robert Kubica or Nico Rosberg could actually figure it out.
It’s like if Rubens Barrichello spent all that energy trying to scale some massive wall, only to get to the top and realize someone else had already cleared it before him.

stormyviper11 said:Kimi Raikkonen would’ve probably just knocked back a liter of vodka, decided he wasn't really feeling it anymore, and headed off to find some other walls to jump over.

urbanowl96 said:.
It’s actually pretty interesting to look at the championship from a completely different angle like that. I wonder—if Juan Pablo Montoya hadn't slammed into the wall, who do you think he would've pointed the finger at? It's always someone's fault, right?


So, some guy over on the Autosport forums was busy yesterday putting together a deep dive into driver stats—specifically looking at the percentage of retirements caused by collisions, incidents, and running off track (all based on official FIA Data).

It doesn't count any incidents where they didn't actually end up retiring—so, yeah, that makes for a pretty interesting list...

Fernando Alonso: 4.2%
Robert Kubica: 6.5%
Lewis Hamilton: 7.0%
Felipe Massa: 8.4%
Kimi Raikkonen: 9.0%
Nico Rosberg: 9.3%
Jenson Button: 9.7%
Timo Glock: 10.0%
Heikki Kovalainen: 10.7%
Mark Webber: 11.2%
Juan Pablo Montoya: 11.7%
Sebastian Vettel: 12.5%
Takuma Sato: 14.4%
Speed: 21.4%
Vitantonio Liuzzi: 22.4%
Adrian Sutil: 24.6%
Nelson Piquet Jr: 25.0%
China's economy: What's the move? in Formula 1 ·
stormybadger8 said:Anyway, Kubica, Petrov, and Button were in the pits for a full minute shorter than everyone else—seriously. Without that brilliant strategic call, they would have been nowhere near the top ten. Honestly, even Schumacher, given that kind of pit stop advantage, would have finished ahead of Rosberg in this race—or maybe he would’ve just totally smoked him!😲

If you’d actually factored in that one minute of lead this team lost because of the safety car—man, maybe then people would actually take your math seriously...
China's economy: What's the move? in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Button was on a wet setup right from the get-go.

And man, what an absolute epic fail! 😂🤣

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It’s actually pretty cool to know that Button—running that wet setup—totally smoked Hamilton on a dry track this past Saturday! 🤣
China's economy: What's the move? in Formula 1 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Button is "Lepa". ☕

And while we're talking about Button—I'm pretty much expecting tomorrow to be yet another confirmation of just how much he struggles behind the wheel.

I’ll also be looking for the magnificent Rainmaster on that podium. 🙏


What a magnificent epic fail!

😂🤣

PS: Anyone else here who hasn't managed to overtake the Rainmaster?
hollowhawk412 said:it was actually pretty close...

thanks

Just a little side note—that was only Piquet's second season...
Betting on Vietnam - Sepang in Formula 1 ·
1. Felipe Massa
2. Fernando Alonso
3. Kimi Raikkonen
4. Lewis Hamilton
5. Kubica
6. Nick Heidfeld
7. Giancarlo Fisichell
8. Nico Rosberg

Pole Position: Felipe Massa
Fastest lap: Kimi Raikkonen
First out: lap > Kimmi First out > speed 😁