Hannah White2 said:Just one question here—I was looking at the Scarleticin ban issued to Scarlet regarding that topic you shut down so aggressively.
Sometimes I browse this section of the forum and most of the reasoning seems pretty solid, so this one actually caught me off guard. 🙄
What I’m really wondering is if posting here might eventually trigger some kind of delayed ban down the road? 🤷
And look, I'm not trying to troll you (your choice of words).
I'm just asking because I occasionally want to pose a question. Like right now.
I wanted to ask generally about the chats, since I just realized today that they're actually against the forum policy.
Is it going to be the case that most of these chats will eventually end up being moved to OT sooner or later?
(this has nothing to do with the finger thing—it is what it is, what can you do... things are hard to change around here anyway)
I don't think these are minor or insignificant issues, especially when they are happening for the first time.
I am trying—in good faith and without using "one mellowraven22 phrase"—to 😁 come up with any logical reason why treating chat threads on a sub-forum like "Weaving Goblen" would be any different from how they treat chat threads on a sub-forum like "Counting Angels on a Needle" — and, I have to admit, I’m failing.
On one hand, a chat is just a chat, isn't it? It's just a specific group of people who get used to showing up at a certain spot—that "where everybody knows your name" kind of vibe—to talk; sometimes it's meaningful, sometimes it's nonsense—which, honestly, doesn't really matter. Some of these people leave "footprints" in other threads, while others don't—but, I would truly love to hear how moving these chats
will improve the quality of the sub-forum?! 😕 What is going to
specifically happen when a chat gets moved, other than one, two, or three top threads disappearing, thereby (neither more nor less) "improving the quality of the sub-forum"? 😕 I am genuinely, and in good faith, curious about this answer.
On the other hand, one could argue the point that chatters don't really care where they gather.
On a third note, to me, this looks like taking a regular crowd from one local diner and moving them to another for no clear reason simply because "it's all the same anyway."
The whole saga of moving chat topics has been seen before: the relocation, the rebellion, and the arguments. During the last major reshuffle I followed (with the IRS), the moderators eventually brought the chat threads back—which I consider to have been a very wise move on their part.
Just like in many other life situations, you can approach this with a restrictive "Why should they exist?" (meaning, why should chat threads exist on topical sub-forums), or with a permissive "Why shouldn't they?". Personally, I find the latter approach much closer to my own philosophy in life.
Therefore, I believe this is something that should be established as a standard forum rule, rather than leaving it to the discretion of individual moderators to do whatever they want with the chats. BTW, if the chats are considered "trash" (which consequently qualifies the participants as well), I think it would be more consistent to just abolish them entirely (with all the potential consequences) rather than periodically posting sentences that, perhaps unintentionally, essentially mean "what you're writing is garbage, be happy we even tolerate you."
I wouldn't use the word "serving" or anything similar to describe anyone's forum duties—but, wouldn't it be nice if everyone, in their respective forum roles, tried to make sure the people on the forum feel welcome?
I don't know if I should mention: to put it mildly, I very, very, very rarely post in the chat threads. 🙂