Posts by Henry Hernandez7

crimsonjackal63 said:Here’s the General code of conduct for the politics subreddit.

In the interest of following the general code of conduct, I’d suggest we toss the word communism into Article 4, point three, just so the updated version looks like this:

Thanks.

I can't really get on board with that suggestion right now, mostly because the Constitution has already baked in those legacies from the anti-fascist era, which basically serve as some of the foundational building blocks for the country we have today.

This part is written right there in the Constitution:

"...in establishing the bedrock of national sovereignty during that period..."
During World War II, there was a massive pushback against the declaration of the Independent State of America.
Decisions made by the Independent State of America back in '41 within the framework of ZAVNOH.
The National Liberation Councils of America back in '43, and then eventually they made it into the Constitution.
The People's Republic era back in '47 and everything that followed in the various constitutions.
The era of the Socialist Republic of America (1963–1990)...

Look, since all those symbols from the Communism era—you know, the red stars, or even my avatar which uses that old Socialist Republic emblem—are technically part of the anti-fascist struggle along with a few other specific markers, there’s just no room for what you're suggesting.

Look, your suggestion only really works if the EU decided to overhaul itself into a full-blown federal state. If they actually went that route, the EU Constitution would basically become the rulebook for everyone, which means our current US Constitution would just be sitting on the shelf gathering dust.

Best regards,

Henry Hernandez7

Maybe it's just because... it's election day silence?

Chris Long12 said:I haven't claimed anything else, really. I just don't view this as some grand conspiracy, but rather just... I guess, a natural consequence of political interference.😉

I give up... I was taught from a young age that the smart ones usually get the short end of the stick...😁🙂

Chris Long12 said:It really comes down to timing. Suddenly, they need liquid capital in a very short window. So, what's it going to be? More debt or higher taxes? It’s a double-edged sword, I guess.

Quincy:

2. So you're saying the government wasn't intentionally driven into the ground, but rather it happened by accident—and this has been the status quo for twenty straight years. Fine, you've made your point; I guess I'm just lucky I don't buy into those excuses.

You clearly don't recognize a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Quincy:

4. I didn't quite catch that... are you suggesting bakers should work for free?

My personal opinion aside, by your own definition, this is clearly a conspiracy. 😉
Or maybe you think because it could apply to a whole bunch of different things, it doesn't really count.

Quincy:

5. I wasn't implying there were only 100 exporters; I was using an example where, say, before a global recession, exporters dropped from 100 to 70%, while tourism grew year after year. In the end, a global crisis for a population of 4 million means nothing, except perhaps to "incompetent" politicians.

Of course it matters, because not everyone is working in tourism. I mean, the rising unemployment numbers speak for themselves.

And until private enterprise is allowed to operate without constant federal interference, heavy-handed mandates, and red tape, nothing is going to change. Value is created first, and then it's distributed to others later.
The massive issue here is the healthcare and Social Security systems, which are basically bottomless pits that can't simply be transformed into something sustainable overnight.

1. And in America, we're choosing between taxes and loans? Hmm, funny how they seem to be pushing both at the same time, isn't it?

2. I don't even know what to say... we clearly see things differently, and I doubt either of us is going to budge.

3. Similar to my previous point, except here we aren't talking about a broad set of issues, but rather specifically how the government treats the average American.

4. This explanation is getting a bit exhausting... basically, those who don't rely on the travel industry aren't suffering because of some global recession, but because of political choices.

5. Finally, this was the answer I was waiting for, which just proves that government overreach has wrecked the economy. How much longer are you going to put up with these bad politicians?

Chris Long12 said:Because obligations have to be paid right now, not in a year or two when the effects finally show up. I am by no means against lower taxes and levies or less regulation—I’d sign off on that immediately. But suddenly cutting everything off? That has consequences for those who rely on the Democratic Party, especially retirees. Personally, I'm all for a different Social Security or healthcare system, but you can't just flip a switch overnight.

2. So you're saying twenty years of continuous bad governance in this country was just a coincidence!? No comment.

It doesn't mean it was intentional. The economy did grow, after all, but politicians do what politicians do best: they spend other people's money. And eventually, the bill comes due.
To you, maybe it's a conspiracy, but to me, it's just the government meddling in the economy. And I am against that.

For someone who supposedly criticizes the ruling party, you seem way too tolerant toward what you call "just incompetent politicians."

It honestly surprises me that you aren't out there with fireworks instead of hanging around Markov Square.🤣

3. And is this probably an argument tailored specifically for this forum?

It's interesting how you failed to recognize your own clear definition of a conspiracy, where a minority (like bakers) acts against the interests of the majority (bread for the people) by charging them.

5. Just don't go judging my knowledge of economics. The facts are that during the global recession, we boosted our tourism by 20%, and out of 100 exporters, 70 remained—so that's some kind of loss for our economy? Is that really what you think? Or should we talk about how during the global recession, we increased savings in (foreign) banks by an additional 10 billion dollars?

Can I get a link? These numbers don't look accurate to me. There are many more exporters than that.
http://www.businesspulse.com/2011/09/...revenue-growth/

We have a deliberately induced crisis through which domestic production is weakened, essentially enslaving the people by making them dependent on foreign products and handouts.

Sure. 😂

1. You're talking like the Democratic Party isn't strapped for cash. If they stick to this tax load, the deficit is just going to keep widening. Cutting taxes won't fill the coffers immediately, but it would stop small businesses from folding and give the Democratic Party a fighting chance to function normally down the road.

2. So you're saying the country wasn't intentionally run into the ground, but it just happened by accident, and this has been the continuous trend for twenty years? Alright, you nailed it. Good thing I'm not buying those lines.

3. It's always easier to talk big on a forum.

4. I didn't quite follow that... are you suggesting bakers should work for free?

5. I wasn't saying there were only 100 exporters; I was using an example of how, before the recession, maybe 70% of them were active, while tourism kept climbing year after year, only for a global crisis affecting 4 million people to end up meaning nothing—except for making "incompetent" politicians look bad.

6. I really hope you aren't being sarcastic here.

Harold Martin10 says it’s just not true that cutting taxes would actually put more money in the Democratic Party's pockets.

Logic dictates that things would actually be fuller this way. With the current tax policies, small businesses and local shops are just folding left and right, dumping their workers onto the Democratic Party's plate. If we just cut the sales tax down to maybe 20% or 21% and cranked everything else up to the 30-40% range, we’d stop this downward spiral immediately. It would take the pressure off the Democratic Party by keeping people employed, while simultaneously flipping the economic script and giving the private sector a reason to actually start investing again. Do that, and you'll see the economy get back on the right track pretty damn fast.

If you wanted to see what this actually looks like in practice, it would go down like this:

Small businesses are folding left and right lately, and honestly, looking at the massive budget deficits we’re staring down, it’s starting to feel like a pretty grim cycle.

Small businesses are popping up everywhere lately, and we’re seeing that budget deficit steadily shrinking until, eventually, we actually hit a surplus.

Chris Long12 said:I guess I should apologize, but... 😂
I guess that invisible target always seems to slip right through my fingers, mostly because I get too caught up in what the actual circumstances are forcing me to face.

I mean, I suppose I agree that taxes ought to be kept as low as humanly possible.

Look, I never said there isn't any direction or planning happening here. What I actually meant was that there’s absolutely no plan for success—it’s more like a coordinated strategy for total failure. And honestly, which part of this supposed "Plan 21" is anyone actually executing? Please, go ahead and name it. I'll wait. And for the record, it doesn't bother me at all that someone is in charge. I don't mind being led; I just mind being led straight into a ditch. Those neveleizdajnici... I mean, honestly, what are we even doing anymore? It’s just endless. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I don't know, it feels like everything is falling apart because of them. It's exhausting..

So, let me get this straight: if a certain part of a plan fails, that somehow serves as absolute proof that the entire thing was designed to fail from the start? I guess that’s just how some people think. Maybe. It's honestly ridiculous. 🤣

Those damn bakeries... charging the American people for basic bread! Urotaaa!!!

He’s out there insisting that we call it what it actually is: corruption. I mean, seriously...It seems to me—though I could be wrong, I guess—that these politicians have basically formed a conspiracy against their own people. It’s all just a massive scheme to line their own pockets. They're driven by nothing but pure, unadulterated greed and corruption. Urotaaa !!!See? Now you finally get it.
I suppose there might be some decent politicians out there, sure, but honestly? They’re just measured in tiny percentages—they don't have any real power at all.

Are you seriously suggesting that an entire group of politicians is intentionally plotting to be corrupt? Look, there are always going to be people like that—that’s just what you call a scandal. If we're talking about specific individuals acting alone, then it isn't some grand conspiracy. It's just plain old corruption.
Opportunity makes a thief—I guess if someone gives in to temptation, it doesn't necessarily mean they set out with bad intentions from the very start. Maybe. Or maybe not. It’s just how things work.

6. In this country, only someone intentionally turning a blind eye to reality could claim our crisis is being driven by the global economy. I mean, we don't participate in the global market by even a single fraction; as far as the world economy is concerned, we barely exist. This is just a convenient excuse used by corrupt politicians—and let’s be honest, they are actually quite talented thieves. They aren't running this nation with any interest in success; instead, they manage it with a vested interest in seeing us fail. We see the results of their "success" every single day, and it just keeps getting worse.

Uh uh, no, it didn't hit us instantly like it did those other countries that are "more connected," where the impact was felt directly. But claiming something like this? It just shows a fundamental ignorance of how economics works. That isn't necessarily a crime in itself, since a person should be learning as long as they live. However, some people just fill in the gaps with whatever theories happen to fit their own narrative.

I wasn't aware we had transitioned into discussing religion. I admit, I haven't achieved enlightenment or seen the truth yet. 🤣

7. What exactly were you trying to get at with that?

1. And why exactly aren't taxes lower?

2. So you're telling me two decades of crappy governance in this country was just a coincidence? No comment.

For someone pretending to criticize the administration, you're being way too easy on them by blaming everything on "incompetent politicians."

3. Is this the kind of argument everyone on this forum loves?

4. We aren't talking about individuals here, so you actually gave yourself a perfectly clear answer.

5. Look, don't try to lecture me on my economic knowledge. The facts are right there: during the global recession, our tourism industry grew by 20%, while out of 100 exporters, 70 remained—which is a hit to the economy, sure, but is that what you're actually thinking? Or should we talk about how bank savings increased by an extra $15 billion during that same recession?

We're looking at a crisis that was essentially manufactured to weaken domestic production, turning the American public into mere consumers who are totally dependent on foreign imports and handouts.

6. I have no idea what religion you're bringing up, but honestly, you don't need religion to see clearly; you just need to use what's already in your head.🙂

Harold Martin10 said:That's not quite right. Looking at the long term, sure, reducing the tax burden is definitely better for growth—any kind of government meddling in the economy is generally a bad move.

But, we aren't talking about some grand "goal" to destroy the nation here; it's really just a matter of simple stupidity, greed, and total irresponsibility.

Explain what’s in bold.

Some people see things exactly like you do—which, unfortunately, is most people—while others see them the way I do, which, sadly, makes me part of a tiny minority.

David Parker44 said:Yes, we are.
First off, if the people actually showed some teeth, this whole movie would be playing out differently. Just look at France... the second they tighten the screws, you've got riots in the streets. You can't mess with them. But here? Throw a tax hike at us—wrapped up in some "austerity" ideology or blaming the previous administration—and everyone just folds. Everyone just says, "Well, I guess we have to..." That's how it always goes. And don't even get me started on small business owners. Hit them with an extra 12% tax on profit distributions and not a single soul at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce even blinks.

Secondly, I’d implement penalties at the polls for anyone who doesn't show up... simple enough. $100 So don't bother voting then. You live in America, and that comes with a duty to the state and the people. If we did that, they wouldn't be playing games with pathetic 40% turnout numbers and letting a tiny minority decide the majority. The final result would look completely different.

The only thing I agree with you on is the fact that we're passive. The reason I don't trust any political party is because about 40, 50, or 60% of the population was against joining the European Union, yet every single political option in Congress representing the people is for the European Union.

Chris Long12 said:I don't even know what you're trying to get at with that.
Let’s actually take a moment to think about this. The entire purpose—the actual goal—of tax policy isn't just to create a deficit or leave holes in the budget. It really isn't.
So, what does that actually mean? It means your tax policy—your precious little plan—is fundamentally broken, and you’re going to run straight into a wall when it comes to covering costs. You’ll be forced to go out and borrow money on the international markets at some massive interest rate because your credit rating is basically junk. Then, you end up looking completely incompetent, and I guess you can just watch as the opposition and the American people use that failure to tear you apart in the next election. This deficit isn't some random accident; it’s the direct, unintended consequence of your own tax policy. Though, I suppose it certainly wasn't the goal, was it?

So, I guess we’re finally admitting that politics actually operates with a specific goal and a deliberate plan now? Does that mean it isn't some massive conspiracy after all? Maybe. I don't know. It just seems like we're suddenly changing the narrative.

What kind of management is this—aimless, drifting, without a single shred of a goal or a coherent plan? It’s absolutely absurd. You have a client who was specifically elected to lead during their term, yet here we are. If you want to see what the current administration's actual goals and plans look like, you can clearly see them right there... I don't know, maybe I’m just being cynical, but looking at this whole plan... it’s a mess. It really is. I mean, if you actually sit down and read through what they’re proposing, it feels like they aren't even trying to be coherent. It’s all just noise. I guess some people might see this as a roadmap, but to me? It looks more like a collection of half-baked ideas thrown against a wall to see what sticks. Maybe they think the people won't notice the inconsistencies, but I disagree. I strongly disagree. It’s frankly insulting to anyone actually paying attention to the state of our economy and our institutions. You look at these projections and you just have to wonder where the logic went. It’s fragmented, it’s messy, and quite honestly, it’s infuriating. We deserve better than this level of incompetence. .
I honestly have no idea where you're seeing some kind of conspiracy in this plan. I mean, does the mere fact that someone is actually in charge bother you that much? Or is that just how it is?

Here is a little explanation regarding the word "urota":
A conspiracy is just a small group of people acting specifically to undermine the interests of the majority. I guess that’s just how it works. Maybe. But it's true! It's always a tiny clique working against everyone else!

Your interpretation. I mean, you’re really reaching with that one.
A broad definition:
Conspiracy or collusion... I guess that’s just a fancy way of describing a coordinated effort to bury the truth. It's about hiding what actually happened when someone decides to act outside the law, ignore regulations, or completely disregard the values held by the people. It's all about cover-ups. Maybe it's more than that, but that's how it looks to me!
I suppose there isn't much more to say on this... it’s just an even tighter way of putting things, I guess. Maybe that's the point? It feels a bit too constrained for my liking, though. Honestly, it's all just a different way of framing the same old mess.
A secret plot by a group to carry out something illegal or harmful.

Look, just because there’s a plan in place doesn't necessarily mean we're looking at some massive conspiracy. I guess maybe it's just... a plan? It doesn't always have to be a plot.

I’m on my phone right now, but I assume you're trying to feed me some nonsense about reptiles or whatever? No, I don't buy into that. I believe in the actual malice of politicians who work solely to destroy everything just to line their own pockets for a little extra profit. That's what's real.

Not even close. This is about describing how government overreach has managed to crawl its way into every single corner of our lives.
What you’re talking about here is plain and simple corruption. And look, you aren't wrong—it exists. There are definitely people involved. But I guess we shouldn't just paint everyone with the same brush.
Actually, it’s quite the opposite. There are definitely politicians out there who genuinely want to do something positive for others—I guess you could say they have good intentions. The real issue, though, is that they seem convinced the only way to achieve anything meaningful is through heavy-handed government policy.

And what exactly is the end goal here? Until someone actually gives me a straight answer, my take remains the same: it’s all just a massive power grab. It's clearly designed to seize control over real estate, territory, and our most vital resources.

Look, we are talking about taxes that just keep climbing higher and higher.
Companies simply cannot shoulder this massive tax burden—not to mention all the extra fees. It’s a direct consequence of these ever-increasing taxes..
And why are taxes rising? Because the government spends and spends (on subsidies, Amtrak, shipyards, Social Security, healthcare... you name it), they rack up debt, and then they have to pay it back.
I mean, I guess it isn't exactly their intention to drive companies into the ground, because that would be shooting themselves in the foot.
But let’s face it, those big multinationals just use offshore accounts anyway and keep most of their profits there.

You can see for yourself that I'm right; the American government is doing everything possible to make people flee and watch this country crumble, and with that point, you've basically answered your own first point.

The fallout from the crisis has been felt everywhere. Until now, the US had seen growth in both the number of businesses and the overall economy.

Your summary of my answers is roughly this:
The consequence is blamed on politicians being corrupt, but that isn't a conspiracy. So what is it then?

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I am saying. Honestly, it doesn't even make sense on its own. 😕
As for what constitutes a conspiracy, you already wrote that above.

Summary of my answers:
A conspiracy is the result of actions by a tiny group of people who, at the expense of the majority, pass tax laws designed to increase insolvency and cause widespread failure, all with the ultimate goal of seizing property, territory, and resources.

And if you want proof, just look at the worst kind of debt being run up by the current administration, just like before them.

The reaction was right in the middle 🤣

1. If their goal was to turn a profit and avoid a budget deficit, they'd do it—it's actually pretty simple. They'd just cut the tax burden by 50%, and the US Treasury would be twice as full as it is today. But that's not in their interest because they hold all the leverage through debt via government bonds; I think you know that's the worst way to go into debt. And based on everything explained before, the whole point seems to be the downfall of businesses and the country itself, because global hostaplers have made that their mission. So, isn't it pretty obvious not to see how this works?

2. I never said they were operating without a goal or a plan; I said they are operating without a goal or plan *for success*. Instead, they're operating for failure. And which specific "Plan 21" are you talking about? Please, name it. And no, it doesn't bother me that someone is leading; it just bothers me that they are being led by neveleizdajnik.

3. My interpretation doesn't mean "anything"; it's actually quite reasonable, brief, and CLEAR. I'm glad you know what the term means too, but it's a shame you can't see it even with eyes wide open (hopefully).

4. Look, if you want to call it corruption, go ahead. It’s basically just politicians conspiring against their own people just to pad their own pockets—plain and simple corruption. See? Now we're finally on the same page.
I mean, sure, there are probably some honest politicians out there, but they're such a tiny fraction of the whole scene that they barely have any actual influence.

5. I already broke this down in my first point.

6. Around here, the only way you can claim this crisis is caused by the global economy is if you're intentionally turning a blind eye to the truth. I mean, the US doesn't even factor into the global economic equation by even a fraction of a percent; as far as the world economy is concerned, we don't even exist. This whole "global meltdown" excuse is just something used by bad actors—actually, really talented thieves in office—because they aren't running this country to make it succeed; they're running it to watch it fail. We see the results of their "success" every single day, and it just keeps getting worse.

7. What was your actual point with that one?

@Nancy Alvarez82&David Parker44@

You guys have it wrong. All these political parties basically come from the same kitchen, and they’re running on a version of democracy that has absolutely nothing to do with how we actually imagine it working.

And honestly, I don't even buy into the whole election thing; it's just a massive show put on for the public.

Chris Long12 said:Cause and effect.

1. It's a consequence, not the purpose.

2. Because that is just how the political system functions (voting, lobbying, political contributions, etc.). Power and control. They want to regulate every single aspect of society, so you end up with a mountain of agencies with questionable needs, ever-expanding budgets, and commissioned studies; then studies of those studies; and then studies about the studies of those studies. 🤣
A massive pile of new laws and political platforms, especially those "temporary" measures that never actually end, and so on.
But I suppose that isn't a conspiracy; it's just the nature of things, which has been historically evident in countless countries.

3. Well, it’s like that metaphorical monster with tentacles. And that famous Hobbesian work.
http://books.google.com/books/about/L...MC&redir_esc=y

4. Consequence, not purpose.

5. If that were true, it would mean this was directly coordinated with the government. But it isn't. Quite the opposite, actually—companies are fleeing high-tax jurisdictions and heavy regulations for places where they aren't.

1. So, the consequence is just a buildup of bureaucracy and creating new retirees rather than a systemic policy? Interesting... but if politics doesn't run the country, what does?

2. So now politics *is* running things with specific goals and plans? And that still isn't a conspiracy?

Here’s a quick breakdown of what a conspiracy actually is:

"A conspiracy is a small group of people acting with the goal of working against the interests of the majority."

3. I'm on my phone here, but I assume you're implying I believe in some kind of reptilian overlords or something? No, I don't buy that. I believe in the malice of politicians who act with the intent to destroy things, all just to squeeze out a tiny bit of personal profit.

4. Consequence of what? Until I get a real answer, my take remains the same: it's all happening to eventually seize control of real estate, territory, and resources.

5. You can see I'm right; the US government acts in ways that make people want to flee and let everything fall apart, and in saying that, you've actually answered your own first point.

The summary of your answers is basically this:

The consequence is that politicians are corrupt, but that's not a conspiracy. Then what is it?

The summary of my answers:

A conspiracy is the result of a small group of people pushing through tax laws that hurt the masses, specifically designed to create increasing levels of insolvency and decay so they can swoop in and grab real estate, land, and resources.

And if you need proof, just look at the worst kinds of debt being run up by the likes of the federal government or what preceded them.

Chris Long12 said:Taxes are fundamentally designed to fund wars, public spending—which used to just mean the King’s personal entourage—civil servant salaries, and various social programs. But here’s the real issue: the government has this relentless tendency to expand its reach, grab more control, and meddle in absolutely everything, which inevitably demands even more funding.

Leviathan anyone? 😉

I honestly don't see how this works out for corporations, which are already heavily taxed, nor do I get this push to tax capital even more aggressively. If I'm not mistaken, a massive amount of companies, especially the big multinationals, run specific transactions through offshore accounts just to dodge those very taxes. It seems strange, if you ask me, that they're supposedly being accommodated.

The constant rise in taxes is nothing more than a direct result of an ever-growing federal bureaucracy and the endless stream of special interests and perks promised away just to win elections. And don't even get me started on the corruption that ultimately falls squarely on the backs of everyday Americans.

1. Sure, that works fine as long as the goal is actually filling the treasury, rather than what we see here where they seem hell-bent on digging a massive deficit.

2. That's exactly my point. Why are they doing it? What's the end game? Because...

3. I don't follow!?

4. They benefit because when the small players go under, the big guys swoop in to grab a monopoly—until those big guys become small fish for even bigger sharks, specifically those corporations registered in places like the Caymans where the corporate tax rate is basically zero.

5. So, it's pretty obvious. We're looking at a conspiracy.

Chris Long12 said:Pharmaceutical stuff—nothing illegal, obviously.😁
Just a joke, really. It’s an automatic reflex when people start throwing around conspiracy theories.

Why just sit there when there’s an obvious conspiracy in play?

Why? What kind of funds are we even talking about here?

Chris Long12 said:What kind of resources are you even talking about? 😂

Yeah, sure, that's exactly what they learned over in Sweden back in the 90s when the recession absolutely hammered them. Just like how it happened when the social democrats took over around 1970 and started hiking taxes to fund endless benefits. Give everyone whatever they want, right? I guess that's the plan.

You're really asking me!?

Look, if you want to know why the economy is circling the drain, look at the tax code. It didn't just glitch out by accident; it was designed specifically to DESTROY everything we have, all to serve the interests of third-party mega-corporations that don't give a damn about national pride, faith, or any kind of actual identity.

Once most people finally wake up to this, we’re looking at the perfect storm for a massive revolution—probably some kind of World War IV that leaves a trail of bodies in its wake, only for a new regime to step in and aim for the exact same goal: ANNIHILATION.

Look, rustydrifter10, I’m being totally straight with you here—I'm more than happy to step up and handle the moderation for that PDF.

Go ahead and translate that into plain English for me.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:Nah. No way.

But why, though? I've totally changed since then.