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Can someone explain how the banning process works? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
mistywolf17 said:Who is "WE"? Find me one single post where I ever made fun of anyone, or just stop talking nonsense. You are such an obvious troll that anyone reading this thread can clearly see why you received a partial ban.
Then half the people there should just get a partial ban too, if you ask me, because there are definitely clones everywhere. It’s just that I was the first one banned because I actually admitted to it. It seems like a pretty stupid reason to kick someone off that subforum. ☕

And you're doing it again. Trolling, twisting things, making stuff up. This way you communicate is enough reason to never let you near the Lonely Heart subforum again.
Go ahead then. 👋

Oh, and as far as I'm concerned, feel free to lock this. I think I've explained myself more than enough.

So, let me get this straight—insulting people, being openly aggressive, and getting targeted by more than just one random user, all gets rewarded by the mods only in "exceptional circumstances"?

It's a joke.

If this were any other subforum, I wouldn't even bother mentioning it. But on a board that was basically a private circus until yesterday, this is honestly pathetic. By the way, can we just clone the moderators so they can open threads based solely on what *they* find funny? 🙂

That's my two cents.
Depression or just a phase? in Psychology & Therapy ·
Taylor Smith3 said:He maintains his support by insisting that I handled everything perfectly those evenings and that my position is correct. However, regarding the situation with my friend, some new developments surfaced while I was away in the States, and he can see that it is weighing on me day after day. He actually told me once that we are both being foolish and asked why we haven't resolved it yet—he was implying that perhaps I should just give in, not because it is the right thing to do, but simply to end my own distress. I was having a complete meltdown that day.

Aha. That sentence totally threw me for a loop. 🙂
Depression or just a phase? in Psychology & Therapy ·
Taylor Smith3 said:I behave quite differently with men than I do with my family. For instance, there are things my sister would absolutely lose her mind over, yet if my boyfriend did the same, it might pass entirely unnoticed. It might sting, certainly, but I wouldn't make a scene; I would likely even find an excuse for him. In short, I am far more tolerant toward men than I am toward the rest of the world.

My current partner and I haven't been together very long, so he probably doesn't have a fully formed view of how I handle these specific issues. He describes me as being difficult, though he doesn't see me as someone who is constantly looking for a fight. Regarding this situation with my friend, he completely takes my side and doesn't think I'm overreacting just because I've asked about it a million times, even if he does tell me I'm being foolish or overcomplicating things and should just move on. Ultimately, he doesn't view me as an aggressive or high-strung person.

There, I managed one response before heading out; let me socialize in peace, as you can see I'm not going anywhere 😛

That sounds incredibly contradictory to me. Like, how can you claim to be "on my side" while simultaneously calling me an idiot and telling me I'm being dramatic? 😕
Depression or just a phase? in Psychology & Therapy ·
Look, you’ve basically survived two major hits to the gut with people who actually mattered—your ex and that friend. Toss in the family drama and that crushing anxiety about what comes after graduation (trust me, I went through that exact same mental spiral, and it was brutal), and it’s honestly no wonder you’re feeling pretty low right now. It’s hard to breathe, let alone live life to the fullest, when everything feels this heavy. Have you had a chance to bring any of this up with your therapist yet?
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Drew Lee7 said:I just wanted to point out that you really went for the low blow there. Seriously. So what if he admitted to being out with some hookers? What does that have to do with anything we're actually discussing here? You acted like you could have saved yourself the breath of replying if you’d just read that part. Like he isn't even a human being. Like he doesn't even deserve the time of day from you. My point was that he could easily turn around and do the exact same thing to you, which would be totally pointless. And let's be real—this stuff affects you, me, and mnogi everyone else, even when we claim it doesn't. We don't live in a vacuum, after all.

Please, spare me the sermon.
I responded to him point by point.
I don't make a habit of debating frustrated people. And yeah, you're right, he doesn't deserve it because he hasn't put forth a single decent thought, word, or sentence worth debating. I only replied out of pure muscle memory.

Drew Lee7 said:I just wanted to point out that you really went for the low blow there. Seriously. So what if he admitted to being out with some hookers? What does that have to do with anything we're actually discussing here? You acted like you could have saved yourself the breath of replying if you’d just read that part. Like he isn't even a human being. Like he doesn't even deserve the time of day from you. My point was that he could easily turn around and do the exact same thing to you, which would be totally pointless. And let's be real—this stuff affects you, me, and mnogi everyone else, even when we claim it doesn't. We don't live in a vacuum, after all.

No, just because the small town is gossiping doesn't mean it hits everyone. You can only really claim that for yourself.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Drew Lee7 said:Quentin Tarantino:
boldwalker12 I can't even begin to process what they just said. Seriously? Is anyone actually buying this? It’s like people just stop thinking the second they open their mouths. Honestly, how does someone even come up with this kind of nonsense?
Man, I could've saved myself all that wasted effort if I’d just read this a second sooner. I can't believe I have to deal with this again. Honestly, does anyone else feel like we’re just circling the drain here? Every time someone brings up these "traditional values" arguments, it feels like a step backward. We've been talking about how patriarchy is a social system in which the role of the male as the primary authority figure is central to social organization, and where fathers hold authority over women, but people still act like it's some kind of lost utopia. It isn't. It's just outdated. Why are we even entertaining these regressive ideas in a modern society? It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck. We should be pushing for progress, not clinging to old-school power structures that clearly don't serve everyone. Does anyone actually think things were better when one group held all the cards? I highly doubt it.
Come on, don't stoop that low. So what if he was out chasing skirts? What does that have to do with the actual points he's making? Should I start digging up everyone else's dirty laundry and dragging their private lives into this? Would that be any fun? I don't think so.

Look, if you aren't actually reading what I write, then you really have no business commenting on it. You’re basically admitting you haven't even read my posts, yet you still feel this desperate need to come at me? Honestly, I'm sorry for whatever happened in your life that made you this bitter, but sorry, babe—that's not on me. 🤷 I didn't screw you over. Seriously. ☕

Look, you’re wasting your breath. It’s like trying to say good morning to someone who’s stone-deaf. Honestly, the motivation behind most feminists—and I use that term loosely—is purely personal. That’s exactly why they get so aggressive and why they always act like they're being victimized. I’m with you on pretty much everything, except for the whole divorce situation. That is a massive, incredibly messy issue. There isn't a perfect solution out there, period. At best, you're just looking for the least terrible option available. Is there discrimination involved? Sure, in a way. But I don't think the courts are out to get anyone intentionally; it feels more like they're just taking the path of least resistance. It’s a complicated mess, but regarding everything else? Yeah, you hit the nail on the head.

Let’s be real here... most women act completely un-feminist. And that’s exactly what drives feminists absolutely insane. They go off on these massive rants, blaming thousands of years of tradition like those women are just mindless robots without a single thought of their own. As if they aren't capable of using their own heads—no matter how smart or cunning those heads might actually be.

So, you're actually trying to tell me that there's zero choice left for women today? Give me a break. How "free" he really is—that's a whole different ballgame, and honestly, I think it's more of a philosophical debate than anything else. But seriously, what exactly am I missing here? In what way do women lack choice in this day and age?

Yeah, right. Most people have never even looked my way.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Raymond Nguyen3 said:Given how late you're posting, you probably should've just gone to sleep. Or, I don't know, read a book if you couldn't sleep.
And even with that post, I don't really see much point in arguing with him. For his own sake, I really hope he's just using this thread to troll.🤦 If he actually cared about his mental health, he'd probably be pretty worried right now. Being a jerk doesn't really have anything to do with what your zodiac sign is.

I mean, fair point.🙂
And honestly, this whole debate—especially with this specific tone and title—is pretty much pointless.
Nobody here, at least nobody with half a brain, is actually trying to claim anything related to the title or "castrate" anyone, but apparently, it’s impossible to have even a slightly serious discussion about certain topics without people throwing tantrums and hurling infantile accusations left and right.
As if I need to explain all over again how feminism has absolutely nothing to do with defending some "author" like Nicole Kidman, or how some women just love playing a part in the media and would probably defend Kelly Clarkson from angry eco-activists tomorrow if they could. I've already said everything there is to say on this thread.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Casey Vaughn7 said:I truly despise participating in threads like this one, but it seems some people are fundamentally incapable of grasping basic psychological principles or the underlying motivations behind human behavior—constantly questioning the "why" without any actual insight.

To be clear, I am not here to defend men; I am simply stating the objective reality of the situation, whereas women often fail to see things clearly because logical deduction appears to be a foreign concept to them.

The core issue stems from the fact that you all constantly meddle in matters where you have no business, making assumptions that lack any grounding in reality, which is precisely why the sexes can never seem to find common ground.

I could've saved myself the massive headache of replying if I'd just read this a second sooner.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Casey Vaughn7 said:Those deadbeat fathers didn't just lose their minds for no reason; it's because of these social media influencers who watch people ruin their lives and families. These women do it because they take the path of least resistance, targeting married men with money instead of single men. Talking about child support is pointless because entry-level wages are pathetic, and in many cases, women use sex as a tool to secure funds, whether for themselves or for their kids. Of course they face sexism when they refuse to engage in sexual relations on a "normal" basis, but you've gone too far with that; sexism has always existed and always will. Everything has a cause and an effect; nothing happens in a vacuum. You just need to look at things from another person's perspective to see how they interpret it. I am not saying you aren't right—there isn't just one objective truth. Truth is subjective for everyone, at least to some degree.

And this nonsense about employment is pure fiction. Aside from the fact that women hold almost all the prestigious positions in this country, earn equal pay, and receive all the sponsorships, while we have nothing left. Feminism is essentially a movement where women want to dictate terms to the world, yet they refuse to admit it so they don't come across as bitter. As far as I can tell, there are plenty of good guys out there struggling without work, so don't lecture me with inaccuracies. In fact, I would agree with that intellectual's assessment that you are just a man-hater—just like any woman over thirty who hasn't had children, for which she is absolutely to blame herself. Period.

Oh, wow. So we’re just tossing kids and gold-diggers into the same bucket now? Truly a masterclass in logic there. Groundbreaking stuff, really.

I don't have any text to work with yet! Toss me the original post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get to work turning it into something that actually sounds like a real person living in the States. Just remember, I'm going to strip out all those foreign references and swap them for stuff we actually recognize here, while keeping the vibe exactly how it should be. Ready when you are. kaže:
Honestly, talking about child support is a total waste of breath. For starters, entry-level salaries these days are absolute jokes—barely enough to cover rent in most cities, let alone anything else. And if we're being real? In most cases, women just use sex as a tool to get to the money, whether it’s for themselves or under the guise of "providing for the kids." It’s a rigged game.

Women using sex to fund their kids' lives? Seriously, man, what kind of nonsense are you even talking about? 🤦

I don't have any text to work with yet! Drop the post you want me to overhaul below, and I'll get to work turning it into something that actually sounds like a real person living in the States. Just remember: I'm keeping my specific vibe—long-winded, a little sarcastic, and definitely not sounding like a robot—while swapping out all those foreign references for things that make sense here in the US. Ready when you are. kaže:
It’s honestly no surprise they end up being targeted with sexist nonsense whenever they decide they aren't down for hookups on someone else's terms. Like, sorry we don't want to play your game? Suddenly it's a character flaw. It's such a predictable pattern.

Good luck trying to defend a rapist in court. Seriously, though—not when you take our legal system into account. ☕

I can't believe I'm actually sitting here typing this out, but here we go. Honestly, I feel like I need a drink just thinking about how ridiculous this whole situation has become. It’s one of those things where you look back and wonder if you were actually hallucinating while it was happening, or if everyone else was just collectively deciding to ignore reality. Anyway, enough of my mid-life crisis rambling. Let's get into it. kaže:
So, you really want to side with that "intellectual" and claim I’m just some man-hater? Typical. It’s the same old script used by every woman over 30 who doesn't have kids—as if being childless is somehow a personal failing or a character flaw. Honestly, if you think that's the case, you're clearly delusional. But hey, blame me if it makes your worldview feel more complete. Period.

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It’s honestly hilarious how being a complete idiot correlates perfectly with both being highly educated and being totally uneducated. It's like a universal constant at this point.

I can't really say much more about that without getting way too deep into the weeds, but honestly, I'm just over here trying to make sense of the whole mess. It’s one of those situations where you look at the facts and just want to facepalm. You know what I mean? Anyway, I'll try to dig a little deeper when I have a second to breathe. kaže:
Let’s be real for a second: feminism is basically just a movement where women want to call all the shots and run the whole show, but they won't actually admit that part out loud because then they'd look like the bad guys.

Man, where did those old days go? Remember when they used to make those wild claims about ugly, mustachioed old ladies? Ah, those were the days... These modern conspiracy theories and paranoid ramblings are just straight-up boring.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Drew Lee7 said:Yeah, true... facts are hard to pin down. Honestly, you might as well just stay in your own lane because who knows what’s waiting for you out there? Even if the facts are on your side, those people at the top will just move the goalposts anyway.

...besides, if every single guy—or at least most of them—is just some hardcore patriarchal chauvinist, then it makes it way easier to justify the whole mess, doesn't it? 😉

Well, that's your take on it. 😉

Drew Lee7 said:Yeah, true... facts are hard to pin down. Honestly, you might as well just stay in your own lane because who knows what’s waiting for you out there? Even if the facts are on your side, those people at the top will just move the goalposts anyway.

...besides, if every single guy—or at least most of them—is just some hardcore patriarchal chauvinist, then it makes it way easier to justify the whole mess, doesn't it? 😉

Look, come back to me when you've opened fifty different threads about shitty, narcissistic, selfish guys and backed it all up with links from Cosmopolitan and Elle, and then maybe you'll actually have a leg to stand on.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Drew Lee7 said:Honestly, I have no clue where you're getting this idea that those are "remnants of the patriarchy." That's actually incomprehensible to a patriarchy. In those systems, the option for a woman to even think about leaving a man—let alone raising a child on her own—doesn't even exist. They're completely marginalized. Do you even realize what happens to women in those types of cultures, or what's left of them, if they actually try? There have been news stories right here in the States where, for example, an American woman marries an Arab man, they divorce, and he just kidnaps the kid and vanishes. And before anyone tries to call me a chauvinist, that isn't just some specific trait of an Arab man; it’s a feature of all patriarchal cultures.
You can't claim something is a "remnant" of a system if that thing was fundamentally impossible within that culture to begin with.

The whole "glorification" of motherhood? If anything, that’s a hallmark of a matriarchy.

And regarding those quotes... what exactly do you think you've proven with them? Seriously though, I’m asking you—what was the point?

Yeah. I did mention right at the start that this is all pretty pointless. In the next few posts, I fully expect a massive, deep-dive dissertation on matriarchy stretching all the way back to the seventh century. 🙂
I just don't have that much free time.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Drew Lee7 said:I don't see it that way at all. In a true patriarchal setup, a woman's primary role is motherhood, but that only works if the man is actually present in the picture. Under that system, divorce basically doesn't exist—there’s no real option for a woman to just walk away from her man. Instead, the power dynamic allows him to essentially cast her out while keeping full custody of the child. So... honestly? I think you're completely off base here.

Do you even know what separation anxiety in toddlers actually is? Clearly, you don't, which explains why you're posting such absolute garbage.

Quote : Baby blues

You mean contradiction, right? 🤷

So, you're really trying to base your entire argument on a single quote? What exactly are you trying to prove there? 😂

Sorry if I'm laughing, but I honestly can't help it. I actually wrote out this whole long-winded response to you, but then the entire thing just vanished into thin air. You took an Aristotelian quote, ripped it straight out of context, and now you're waving it around like it's some kind of smoking gun to prove how women are being oppressed. Sorry, but that's just ridiculous. 🤣

Look, I'm talking about the leftovers of patriarchy. It's not like we're living in the dark ages where a woman isn't allowed to leave a man anymore.

Drew Lee7 said:I don't see it that way at all. In a true patriarchal setup, a woman's primary role is motherhood, but that only works if the man is actually present in the picture. Under that system, divorce basically doesn't exist—there’s no real option for a woman to just walk away from her man. Instead, the power dynamic allows him to essentially cast her out while keeping full custody of the child. So... honestly? I think you're completely off base here.

Do you even know what separation anxiety in toddlers actually is? Clearly, you don't, which explains why you're posting such absolute garbage.

Quote : Baby blues

You mean contradiction, right? 🤷

So, you're really trying to base your entire argument on a single quote? What exactly are you trying to prove there? 😂

Sorry if I'm laughing, but I honestly can't help it. I actually wrote out this whole long-winded response to you, but then the entire thing just vanished into thin air. You took an Aristotelian quote, ripped it straight out of context, and now you're waving it around like it's some kind of smoking gun to prove how women are being oppressed. Sorry, but that's just ridiculous. 🤣

Ugh, well, at least you've got plenty of quotes to work with—just maybe try looking at some other philosophers for once? It's a little hard to claim something is "out of context" when you're cherry-picking everything. 😁

"But once the laws granted women the same rights as men, they should have also been granted human reason."
"Just a glance at a woman's stature tells us she is not destined for great intellectual or physical feats. She does not prove herself through what she accomplishes, but through what she endures: the pains of childbirth, the care of children, and her submissiveness to the man she must patiently accompany. Her greatest pains, joys, and displays of strength are denied to her; her life should flow more quietly, more insignificantly, and more weakly than a man's, and generally shouldn't be any happier or more miserable than his." A. Schopenhauer.

"Woman is a riddle whose solution is motherhood."
"Women who educate themselves probably do so because their sexual apparatus doesn't work." Nietzsche

And there's a million more examples like that.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
silentpilot6 said:Then why aren't kids assigned to "fathers" instead of just "men"? Do you notice the difference there?

I personally know of a case where custody was granted to a mother who was unemployed and struggling with mental health issues... so tell me again how she is "more qualified" than the father, who is steadily employed, mentally sound, and fought to have the children. 🤷

It’s precisely because society still views the mom as the primary caregiver while the dad gets more freedom and way fewer responsibilities. Like I said before, we're just dealing with the leftovers of old-school patriarchal norms.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Drew Lee7 said:Historically and sociologically speaking, modern feminism really found its footing alongside the Industrial Revolution. Once women started heading into factories and moving from small-scale manufacturing to assembly lines, the whole traditional setup just broke. That old-school division of labor basically became obsolete overnight.

So, the movements were definitely there, picking up steam in the late 19th century and especially during the first third of the 20th century—think about the suffragettes here in the United States.

And honestly, how would you even split the chores in a traditional rural community? Should the guy be rocking the baby and making lunch while the women are out mowing hay or chopping wood?

Look, I'm obviously not saying things have to stay that way today. In fact, I wouldn't want my wife stuck in the kitchen all day. 😂

And where exactly did I mention punishment? 😕

I'm against almost any kind of punishing kids. Whether it's physical or psychological, I'm not a fan. But again, that has zero to do with authority.

But I was talking about that stereotypical, old-school brand of authority—the kind that actually relies on various methods of punishment to get things done. I grew up in a part of the country where gender discrimination is practically baked into the tradition, where being born male or female has always carried massive weight. In that world, "authority" meant emotional distance and cracking down on kids whenever they messed up. And let’s be real, most of the time, fathers weren't even particularly involved with their daughters. Sure, a huge chunk of those traditions have faded, but my parents' generation definitely felt that divide—the whole "men's work vs. women's work" thing, different rights, and totally different ways of raising boys versus girls from day one.

Here’s a real-life example: I know this woman whose father forbids her from working in a different city because he thinks "she wouldn't handle it since she's a woman, blah blah blah." This guy is a successful businessman, his son is also an entrepreneur and holds a major role in the family firm, yet she just accepts whatever crumbs they throw her way. She’s basically trapped. Of course, that’s her own damn choice, and honestly, it’s hard for me to wrap my head around because I’d probably bash my head through a wall before letting anyone tell me what to do. But I can see the logic behind it—this outdated mindset where a father feels he needs to "protect" his daughter from life by keeping her away from responsible jobs. And don't even get me started on the legacy aspect.
That’s just one instance.
Take my mom and her brother, for example. Growing up, he could get away with absolutely anything, even though my grandparents weren't trying to be jerks—that was just how things were back then. You know the vibe: the daughter stays home, but the boy is a boy, he'll figure it out, so we can be more lenient with him. Those traditional shackles don't just snap off easily. What can I say about all those families where you see one youngest son surrounded by four older sisters? Or seeing a woman in tears because her husband turns away during childbirth because he's disappointed it’s a girl? I even had a doctor tell me about this recently—someone being blamed because they supposedly "failed" to give him a son, even though science proves that isn't how it works. This isn't ancient history; these examples are still happening today. We can mock people for being idiots all we want, but the reality is—discrimination is still very much alive.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Drew Lee7 said:I honestly think this kind of literature is just trash and lacks any real substance.

Look, I feel like there could be plenty of middle ground here, even if they don't end up agreeing on everything. But hey, whatever...

Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against feminists, but when someone calls something "unacceptable" and it isn't actual violence—just a different opinion or viewpoint—it basically proves my point: it implies that person feels primitive or backward just for thinking that way. And it’s not just talk anymore; we're seeing more and more legal stuff (or at least proposals that border on being totally absurd) popping up. One example is how you could practically end up behind bars just for sending a suggestive message. 🙄

The right to choose? Sure, absolutely. But look at how things actually work today. Does every woman really have that choice in practice? Let's say she wants to be both a scientist and a mother. She has to grind through undergrad, then grad school, then her PhD, all while fighting to keep her job... if she decides to have kids, she simply isn't playing on the same level as a woman who chooses not to.

But honestly, why does she even have to fight to keep her seat at the table? That’s the real kicker. Why is it still such a huge deal in our corporate culture whether a woman is planning a pregnancy during the hiring process, and why does that lead to automatic discrimination? Things work way differently in other places—places where paid parental leave is standard for both moms and dads, and where the hiring process isn't a minefield. Out there, being fired because you're pregnant is a rare scandal, whereas here, it feels like it happens all the damn time.
Women are villains, men are saints in Psychology ·
Drew Lee7 said:Let's swap out the word "normal." The real issue is that they're just using terrible methodology. I've looked at dozens of papers like this in my time. I've read them. Their basic goal isn't even to study a phenomenon and draw conclusions; the conclusions are already baked in from the start. The whole paper is just a desperate attempt to cherry-pick facts to support a predetermined opinion.

What's the connection? Sadly, it's tied to family dynamics, identity crises, and all those past disappointments people project onto the entire male gender... yeah, it goes on and on.

Look, sure, you can have one woman venting that all guys are jerks—that happens on an individual level. But that’s not feminism. Do you actually know how or why the fight for equality even started? Do you have any clue what life was actually like for women before the movement kicked off?
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Drew Lee7 said:Look, I never asked you to explain anything to me. I laid out my reasoning for why I think those points don't work, and you can do whatever you want with that. If you want to counter my argument, provide actual evidence or a link that disproves me—otherwise, don't bother. 🤷

Any activist is going to claim that any view they don't personally deem "normal" is unacceptable. For me, certain feminist stances aren't necessarily "unacceptable"—they're just ridiculous. See the difference? If they actually held any power, they’d probably try to cancel me or tell me I need "re-education," but all I'd do is roll my eyes or change the subject. Just because I disagree with a feminist doesn't mean we can't talk about other stuff and actually have a good time. But most feminists? They lose their minds over anything they don't find acceptable.

Well, I'm daring to say it. So what? Should I be thrown in jail because my opinion is "dangerous" to you? What should happen to me? Got any bright ideas?

Let's try this: imagine some sort of utopia where everyone's basic needs are totally met. Now, picture a woman between the ages of 20 and 35 who wants to have children. In your eyes, what would her primary role be during that stage of her life?

It's honestly sad that most women today don't have the freedom to choose everything they want.

Honestly, if neither parent is actually an authority figure, God help that kid. And honestly? God help everyone else once they grow up, too. But if the dad isn't the authority and the mom is, that kid is basically doomed from the start; and trying to get both parents to be authoritative at the same time? Good luck, because that’s pretty much impossible.

And why exactly do you find that literature so hilarious? We could honestly sit here and bang our heads against the wall forever, everyone sticking to their own lane, but we’re never going to meet in the middle. It's totally pointless.

Drew Lee7 said:Look, I never asked you to explain anything to me. I laid out my reasoning for why I think those points don't work, and you can do whatever you want with that. If you want to counter my argument, provide actual evidence or a link that disproves me—otherwise, don't bother. 🤷

Any activist is going to claim that any view they don't personally deem "normal" is unacceptable. For me, certain feminist stances aren't necessarily "unacceptable"—they're just ridiculous. See the difference? If they actually held any power, they’d probably try to cancel me or tell me I need "re-education," but all I'd do is roll my eyes or change the subject. Just because I disagree with a feminist doesn't mean we can't talk about other stuff and actually have a good time. But most feminists? They lose their minds over anything they don't find acceptable.

Well, I'm daring to say it. So what? Should I be thrown in jail because my opinion is "dangerous" to you? What should happen to me? Got any bright ideas?

Let's try this: imagine some sort of utopia where everyone's basic needs are totally met. Now, picture a woman between the ages of 20 and 35 who wants to have children. In your eyes, what would her primary role be during that stage of her life?

It's honestly sad that most women today don't have the freedom to choose everything they want.

Honestly, if neither parent is actually an authority figure, God help that kid. And honestly? God help everyone else once they grow up, too. But if the dad isn't the authority and the mom is, that kid is basically doomed from the start; and trying to get both parents to be authoritative at the same time? Good luck, because that’s pretty much impossible.

I have no idea why you think anyone would actually sanction you. People don't just get penalized out of thin air, and that's honestly just another one of those stereotypes about feminists that makes "threatened men" feel like victims. I'm not an activist myself, but I share plenty of feminist views—which, let's face it, almost every woman does, even if they don't realize it or call it that. That's the whole point: choice. In America today, women have options. They didn't used to. They aren't forced into marriages with some jerk you couldn't even land in a free, democratic society without a wingman. Not to sound cliché or oversimplify things, but feminism doesn't threaten anyone. Sure, there are radical fringes, but those aren't "feminism"—they're just tiny sub-groups. You also can't lump everyone under one giant label just because they share a few ideas. The goal of feminism was never to enslave men; anyone who thinks that is either completely uninformed or just choosing to stay that way.

Drew Lee7 said:Look, I never asked you to explain anything to me. I laid out my reasoning for why I think those points don't work, and you can do whatever you want with that. If you want to counter my argument, provide actual evidence or a link that disproves me—otherwise, don't bother. 🤷

Any activist is going to claim that any view they don't personally deem "normal" is unacceptable. For me, certain feminist stances aren't necessarily "unacceptable"—they're just ridiculous. See the difference? If they actually held any power, they’d probably try to cancel me or tell me I need "re-education," but all I'd do is roll my eyes or change the subject. Just because I disagree with a feminist doesn't mean we can't talk about other stuff and actually have a good time. But most feminists? They lose their minds over anything they don't find acceptable.

Well, I'm daring to say it. So what? Should I be thrown in jail because my opinion is "dangerous" to you? What should happen to me? Got any bright ideas?

Let's try this: imagine some sort of utopia where everyone's basic needs are totally met. Now, picture a woman between the ages of 20 and 35 who wants to have children. In your eyes, what would her primary role be during that stage of her life?

It's honestly sad that most women today don't have the freedom to choose everything they want.

Honestly, if neither parent is actually an authority figure, God help that kid. And honestly? God help everyone else once they grow up, too. But if the dad isn't the authority and the mom is, that kid is basically doomed from the start; and trying to get both parents to be authoritative at the same time? Good luck, because that’s pretty much impossible.

Why the panic? ☕

Drew Lee7 said:Look, I never asked you to explain anything to me. I laid out my reasoning for why I think those points don't work, and you can do whatever you want with that. If you want to counter my argument, provide actual evidence or a link that disproves me—otherwise, don't bother. 🤷

Any activist is going to claim that any view they don't personally deem "normal" is unacceptable. For me, certain feminist stances aren't necessarily "unacceptable"—they're just ridiculous. See the difference? If they actually held any power, they’d probably try to cancel me or tell me I need "re-education," but all I'd do is roll my eyes or change the subject. Just because I disagree with a feminist doesn't mean we can't talk about other stuff and actually have a good time. But most feminists? They lose their minds over anything they don't find acceptable.

Well, I'm daring to say it. So what? Should I be thrown in jail because my opinion is "dangerous" to you? What should happen to me? Got any bright ideas?

Let's try this: imagine some sort of utopia where everyone's basic needs are totally met. Now, picture a woman between the ages of 20 and 35 who wants to have children. In your eyes, what would her primary role be during that stage of her life?

It's honestly sad that most women today don't have the freedom to choose everything they want.

Honestly, if neither parent is actually an authority figure, God help that kid. And honestly? God help everyone else once they grow up, too. But if the dad isn't the authority and the mom is, that kid is basically doomed from the start; and trying to get both parents to be authoritative at the same time? Good luck, because that’s pretty much impossible.

I'm gonna say it again: it's all about the right to choose. That golden rule of choice. Being able to be a mother if she feels like it, rather than having that forced on her as her one and only socially mandated role. The ability to be whatever she wants, provided it’s her own call—and hers alone. Having the absolute right to decide what her primary role is at any given moment.

Drew Lee7 said:Look, I never asked you to explain anything to me. I laid out my reasoning for why I think those points don't work, and you can do whatever you want with that. If you want to counter my argument, provide actual evidence or a link that disproves me—otherwise, don't bother. 🤷

Any activist is going to claim that any view they don't personally deem "normal" is unacceptable. For me, certain feminist stances aren't necessarily "unacceptable"—they're just ridiculous. See the difference? If they actually held any power, they’d probably try to cancel me or tell me I need "re-education," but all I'd do is roll my eyes or change the subject. Just because I disagree with a feminist doesn't mean we can't talk about other stuff and actually have a good time. But most feminists? They lose their minds over anything they don't find acceptable.

Well, I'm daring to say it. So what? Should I be thrown in jail because my opinion is "dangerous" to you? What should happen to me? Got any bright ideas?

Let's try this: imagine some sort of utopia where everyone's basic needs are totally met. Now, picture a woman between the ages of 20 and 35 who wants to have children. In your eyes, what would her primary role be during that stage of her life?

It's honestly sad that most women today don't have the freedom to choose everything they want.

Honestly, if neither parent is actually an authority figure, God help that kid. And honestly? God help everyone else once they grow up, too. But if the dad isn't the authority and the mom is, that kid is basically doomed from the start; and trying to get both parents to be authoritative at the same time? Good luck, because that’s pretty much impossible.

Do you seriously think punishment is the only way there is to raise a child?
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wiredmoose3 said:I just wanted to touch on this briefly...
I think by practicing this—specifically by barring men—American academic programs and their brand of feminism are walking a very thin line. Here's the issue: based on your reasoning, they are essentially trying to achieve equality by eliminating it. Doesn't that strike you as completely absurd and contradictory? If we actually stop to think about the justification you provided—reading between the lines, so to speak—it clearly implies deepening the divide (which, if we're looking at the ultimate goal, hurts both men and women equally). Separating the sexes, in my view, only widens the gap. Just because something is in its infancy isn't an excuse; if you build something on a flawed foundation, it's a nightmare to fix later.
Either way, equality shouldn't just be the destination—it has to be the method, too.

Look, I’m not claiming this is 100% okay. I explicitly said that, to some extent, it *is* discrimination. It’s all about the balance of power. You could argue it’s also discriminatory when a company like a major tech firm in Silicon Valley decides to focus exclusively on hiring women for a while because they have a massive shortage of female talent. There are plenty of examples of that happening, and it’s precisely because there are still so many male-dominated industries where men hold all the cards. So, I don't see it being quite as controversial when women need a dedicated space where they can focus on
issues specifically affecting women. I’m not out here defending anyone; it’s entirely possible that this mindset turns out to be a huge mistake in the long run. Personally, I think men desperately need to be educated on these issues, and isolating them just fuels more misunderstanding. Bottom line: it’s not "good," but I was just trying to find some logical reasoning for why it happens this way.
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Drew Lee7 said:It’s basically a wash. For every thread like this, there’s another one running the exact opposite way. So... what's even the point? ☕ Of course someone who’s pissed off and frustrated is gonna start a massive, sweeping generalization thread like this. I mean, look at me—I’ve started them too. I'll admit it. Look, I love a good provocation... but you can't have a fire without fuel, right? You know what I'm saying?

In the first case, you’ve basically got two personalities that are, in a twisted sort of way, perfectly matched in their immaturity. Look, I’m all for saying violence is bad—obviously. But the garbage being pushed through the media lately? It’s got zero basis in logic or actual science. If that's the case, why do we see these women constantly falling back into the same patterns with abusive partners? Nobody is forcing them into these relationships; they’re choosing them. On some subconscious level, they're drawn to that exact type of person. It’s such a massive, complicated issue that trying to sum it up in a few sentences is a lost cause. Fine. Let’s "prevent violence." Easy, right? How exactly? You really think there's a way to stop a deranged husband from killing his wife just because she wants to leave him? Seriously, tell me how. Someone who has made that decision is going to follow through. The only real solution would be if nobody even thought of doing it in the first place. And newsflash: you can't fix that with legislation. Especially not with the kind of mindless nonsense being proposed right now.

When it comes to sexual assault, most cases basically boil down to one person's word against another's. So, what’s the move then? Look, if someone kills the spirit of a woman, that's easy enough to see, but proving everything else? That's a massive uphill battle. This whole new proposal suggesting that a woman saying "no" should be enough on its own is just nonsense. Seriously, what does that even accomplish? It just brings us right back to the same old problem: it's just one person's word against another.

Why on earth should I be forced to think exactly like feminists? Honestly, that’s just called groupthink—or straight-up totalitarianism if we're being real. Thank God that through college and my current job, I’ve run into plenty of them, whether personally or by reading their papers. I actually collaborate with some of them, and I’ve never once tried to stop anyone from voicing their opinion, whether I agree with them or not. So, I expect the same courtesy in return. No need for the moral outrage here. Seriously though, why am I expected to take these "scientific" papers seriously when their methodology regarding the patriarchy is fundamentally broken? It’s hilarious how they always talk about the patriarchy using these ridiculous, fairy-tale examples—societies living "beyond the seven seas" that supposedly survived on nothing but crusts of bread and slices of cheese, politically crippled because they were constantly being trampled by other cultures until they devolved into mere survivalists. We could go on about that forever. Why don't they ever discuss the patriarchy using actual historical heavyweights like ancient Rome, Egypt, or Greece? Or any actual, functioning society? This feminist narrative about male oppression dating back to the Stone Age is honestly so absurdly funny it’s almost pathetic. It has zero connection to any legitimate historical evidence.

The last time I tried explaining to someone—not here, obviously—why that kind of logic is totally flawed, they ended up feeling so empowered that they decided to write a whole damn manifesto on how women have been oppressing men throughout history. 😁
So, yeah, I'm passing on this one. Nothing personal, just protecting my sanity. 😁
And where did you get the idea that anyone is forcing you to adopt a feminist worldview? It sounds like you're just quoting, "We are the Borg, you will be assimilated, resistance is futile."
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Ryan Wood98 said:I am not particularly well-versed in the American higher education system, but I suppose that might be the case. However, I don't necessarily see a moral issue there, because American colleges aren't typically organizations that are nominally tasked with fighting AGAINST discrimination.

I am certainly not claiming that they do, and especially not that they affect ALL other aspects. I am simply pointing them out as an example of gender discrimination being practiced by a group that is nominally fighting against it. That is what I find problematic. For instance, it doesn't bother me if a wealthy Corporation accumulates wealth, since they are declared as a commercial entity; however, it does bother me when a wealthy Church accumulates wealth, because they declare themselves as an institution that promotes (among other things) modesty as a virtue. Similarly, I find it problematic when someone advocates for equality while simultaneously practicing discrimination.

I hope that putting words in my mouth like this is a complete coincidence rather than a common practice? Because if this is how you usually communicate, then I suppose we won't be able to have any meaningful discussion.

In any case, I don't see anything controversial about helping victims of abuse, regardless of the victim's gender, the perpetrator's gender, or whether the violence is physical or emotional.

Yeah, okay, sure, it looks like discrimination. But I'm looking at this from a slightly different angle here. These are specialized programs dealing with specific issues that a lot of women just don't feel comfortable talking about when men are in the room. Between all the baggage attached to feminism and the fact that this kind of activism is still finding its footing here in the States, women find it incredibly hard to even start thinking about these topics, let alone speak out. They end up feeling like they sound discriminatory or overly militant themselves, and they always feel this weird, nagging need to apologize for being feminists. Honestly, I think it's just way easier for them to participate, speak up, and actually get involved if the environment is exclusively female.

There are Men's Studies and organizations dedicated to men's rights out there too, and realistically, I don't see many women sticking around or staying consistently active in those spaces for long. Maybe they'll pop in once or twice out of pure curiosity. Is it discriminatory? Technically, yes. But I don't think it's meant to be a permanent thing; I think things are set up this way until the public becomes more sensitive to the issues and until their work isn't constantly under fire from every direction. Most people approach this whole topic with a ton of suspicion and a pretty provocative attitude, so part of the reason these things still happen within closed female circles is actually somewhat justified.

Ryan Wood98 said:I am not particularly well-versed in the American higher education system, but I suppose that might be the case. However, I don't necessarily see a moral issue there, because American colleges aren't typically organizations that are nominally tasked with fighting AGAINST discrimination.

I am certainly not claiming that they do, and especially not that they affect ALL other aspects. I am simply pointing them out as an example of gender discrimination being practiced by a group that is nominally fighting against it. That is what I find problematic. For instance, it doesn't bother me if a wealthy Corporation accumulates wealth, since they are declared as a commercial entity; however, it does bother me when a wealthy Church accumulates wealth, because they declare themselves as an institution that promotes (among other things) modesty as a virtue. Similarly, I find it problematic when someone advocates for equality while simultaneously practicing discrimination.

I hope that putting words in my mouth like this is a complete coincidence rather than a common practice? Because if this is how you usually communicate, then I suppose we won't be able to have any meaningful discussion.

In any case, I don't see anything controversial about helping victims of abuse, regardless of the victim's gender, the perpetrator's gender, or whether the violence is physical or emotional.

Maybe we just had a massive misunderstanding.