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Valentin Inzko claims 700,000 people were killed at Auschwitz in Close to Politics ·
Anthony Barrett10 said:Here’s some interesting reading from a Jewish perspective.

http://www.vesti-online.com/Vesti/Sr...kuju-Jasenovac


Another great book full of straight facts.

The craziest part about Auschwitz is how they try to dodge the actual documentation.
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Valentin Inzko claims 700,000 people were killed at Auschwitz in Close to Politics ·
lonehawk172 said:And what about the people who just found out they’re on a "killed" list despite being alive and well? 🙄
There was an entire village that ended up on a "victim" list even though everyone in it is perfectly healthy!
We need to track down those records that mysteriously vanished after the 80s—the ones that listed a "meager" 17,000. I believe it’s in this nation's best interest to finally uncover the truth and shut up the various Goldsteins and our eastern "brothers" who run around claiming numbers between 700,000 and a million Mexicans. Of course, none of the current leaders want to deal with this; given their political careers and backgrounds, correcting this injustice doesn't serve their interests at all. I have no intention of justifying crimes, but what the Marshall-era partisans did—which they tried to cover up by focusing on Auschwitz—was pure genocide against an entire people. On the flip side, Mexicans hide any mention of the Nedić death camps and their snake-like cooperation with fascists. They say winners write history, and apparently, that means the winners get a monopoly on what counts as "truth" or "justice."


Who cares about the paperwork? They already shook hands on a count of 70,000 dead.
That would be like 50 people killed every single day, just think about that...

Those 17,000 people, as far as anyone knows, were actually documented arrivals at the camp!!!
But the partisans hid everything and made up numbers, even individual lists...
They're basing everything on hearsay; there isn't a single document to back it up!
And as for the names on those lists? Most of them never even saw Auschwitz. It doesn't matter!
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Parenting and upbringing tips!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Sarah Edwards38 said:If you're using the exact same style you're complaining about, isn't that just hypocritical?


Whoa, hey, don't come at me!!
My style is nothing like that jerk's style.
I always respond with class and distance, keeping it high-brow!

It would be hypocritical if I reported him while I'm doing the same thing,
but I report first, wait, and then I take matters into my own hands!
Once I do that, I stop reporting people, and then they're the ones crying about it!
What really bugs me is when my first aggressive post gets punished,
while the guys who were insulting me get off scot-free for days until I start
doing the moderator's job—which they clearly aren't doing, since they're only around the second I get penalized!

The Jazz Age guy spent ten days insulting everyone in America and Canada
with the worst insults imaginable, even comparing people to filthy pigs, and nothing happens to him.
Then I write to him saying he's being RUDE and I get a Governor!
Is that okay with you? Is that hypocritical!!!!?????????
Based on the reasoning that I insulted a fellow user!!!!!!
That makes zero sense, especially given the rule!?!?!

Nobody is defending it, just choose your weapons.


Here, look at this even worse example and tell me what's wrong with it.
Could I have picked a better way to handle it?!
And I put that part at the end of my post,
which was a direct response, totally on topic,
to his post full of insults and belittling!!


I know, I know, we've known that on unknown for a long time. 😁


So if you know that, then act accordingly—talk to me!


Man, it has to work the other way. You've got a nice idea in your head, but it won't work like that, because you clean your own house before you worry about someone else's.


He came right to my doorstep, so I swept him away first,
and then I cleaned my own porch just to be safe,
who knows, maybe there was some spit left behind!!!
When I show up "at someone's door" bringing up their family,
then they can sweep me away or do whatever they want!!!
Whatever, that's how it is in the USA, private property is SACRED!
So go ahead...
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Parenting and upbringing tips!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:I was just trying to make a point there. The reality is some people on these boards clearly lacked decent manners growing up, and you can't ignore that. It becomes an issue when people start using that as a weapon to invalidate someone else. No matter how much it bugs you, it’s hard to call that a major insult—definitely not worth a 100-point penalty.


But we aren't discussing people's upbringing on the politics board!
Plus, how you feel about it is obviously tied to where you stand on the issue!

Anthony Jackson2 said:In that case, mods should treat it as trolling and hand out the right penalties.

steeleagle70 said:Users shouldn't be policing each other or resorting to personal attacks. My background, my literacy, or my manners have nothing to do with anyone else here. People should focus on what I write; if it's offensive, they should report it. That’s the mods' job—to make sure everyone follows the rules regarding conduct and civility.

That’s why I think as soon as someone brings up "how someone was raised," they’re crossing a line. I voted "insult" because it wasn't framed as "trolling."


I flagged it as an insult because it targets privacy!
But I've always reported stuff like that as trolling instead!
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Parenting and upbringing tips!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:what kind of poll is this 😕 no offense 🤷

If I tell you you can't read, is that an insult?

Or just a fact? 🤷


It’s a misunderstanding!
You clearly think literacy is just about books,
so you twist it just to act superior.
But since you aren't fully hypocritical, who knows why
you're making all these unnecessary faces
that totally give you away!

Like the old saying goes:
The mouth can lie, but the face never does!
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Parenting and upbringing tips!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
briskcrane said:The way you're raised at home and out on the streets shows up in how people act on Reddit, too.


Yeah, it’s all just bits and pieces—more bits here, fewer there. It's basically just a whole lot of nothing.
And honestly, when it comes to debating, especially around politics, it’s all just a waste of time.
Bringing up how people were raised at home? That’s nothing but a straight-up provocation!

I could jump in right now and give Sarah Edwards38 a piece of my mind too. Just saying:
I wasn't expecting anything else from you.
There’s just no helping them. It’s a total lack of discipline.
The home-cooked kind, obviously!

If someone starts acting up and insulting you, just report them.
Just throw whatever you want into the debate.
It’s just a cheap provocation.
THAT'S IT! NOTHING LEFT!


Sarah Edwards38 said:Look, if you actually start following the exact rules you claim to be fighting against, you’ve basically lost the argument. There's nothing left to say.


I'll report the behavior first, then wait at least a day.
And then it just happens all over again. It's the same cycle. A hawk gets too cocky and loses its edge.
Time to take on Tom my way and in my own style!!

Should we really just take that and step aside for some provocateur?
Who actually believes that being soft on weaklings just makes them even more entitled? It’s a joke.
Patience and tolerance? Not my style. That kind of stuff just isn't in my DNA.
If the people actually in charge won't do their jobs, then I guess I'll just have to take matters into my own hands!

When I finally lose my cool and snap, I’m more dangerous than a grizzly bear in the Rockies!
Grinding, hustling, smashing through it; I ain't stopping until I'm wiped.
Then I’m gonna go for a stroll, grab something sweet, and just chase butterflies!

Look, I just take advantage of that behavior. First with the other guy.
That’s the guy who started it all.
Then just come over to my place!

Gotta follow the rules, at least some of them...
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Parenting and upbringing tips!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Adam Collins4 said:Man, whenever I remember what you said to me about my mom and autism, I can’t help but laugh at these demands and this newfound sense of justice...

But look, if someone clearly lacks basic manners and keeps proving it, you point it out. It's not an insult if it's just the truth... even if some people act like it is...

Because if we go by that logic, everything becomes an insult. Even mentioning how someone was raised...

Anyway, quick question for the Politics moderators... and the Forum President too...

How long are you gonna let clones of banned users run wild? They aren't even posting, just coming in here to insult everyone on Politics the second they arrive...

It seems like certain rules—the ones that actually should be followed—are being totally ignored...


I've been waiting for you to chime in!!
See, you're one of those guys who constantly brings up "upbringing" in debates!
The first time you brought up upbringing on the Cacic thread, you saw exactly where that leads!!
Slowly but surely, it turns into talking about childhood and all that junk.
I want to wipe this whole debate and poll off Reddit once and for all!
Honestly, there's zero argument in this constant bickering and sniping.
And I definitely don't see how this helps or improves any discussion!
If you start bringing up upbringing, I'm reporting it as trolling every single time.
But since nobody ever punishes you, to me, it's just a sign that we need to keep talking about how people were raised!
Unless the mods ban me, then I'll complain, but it won't matter anyway.
Because, man, I'm just telling it like it is!
To be blunt, I consider you, along with a few others, a "certified troll"!

I have no clue who all the clones are!
Start a thread about it and see what happens!
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Best directorial debuts? in Movies ·

The Human Contract (2009)
Pinkett Smith
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Parenting and upbringing tips!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Sarah Edwards38 said:It definitely matters when you're talking about anything, including Politics.

If someone can't even show basic decency while debating, they aren't being a good conversationalist. Other people reading have every right to call out how they're acting.


No way!
If they break the Reddit rules, punish them for that.
Don't start dragging their family into it.
Everyone has a black sheep in the family somewhere.
Plus, talking about users on Reddit
is already against our existing Forum rules!!

Bringing up privacy is pointless here
since we're all anonymous anyway!
Otherwise, we might as well just dox everyone
and let people judge what others write based on who they know in real life!

What's the point for you or Daniel Ward87 to bring up upbringing now?
Trying to prove you and your families are perfect in real life? Seriously?!!?!?

I get using that to shame kids,
but we're all adults here, some of us even have kids ourselves.
And there's no scientific proof that how you were raised
actually dictates how you act when you join a thread, say...

That would just be the old "apple doesn't fall far from the tree" line.
Just some tired, small-town logic.
Total nonsense!!!

Family and privacy are protected by anonymity here!!!

If you want to talk about someone's background or privacy, you better back it up with facts.
On Reddit, that's strictly forbidden by the rules!!!!!
Besides, this is clearly just a way to insult and belittle people!!!
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Parenting and upbringing tips!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Daniel Ward87 said:Even if I wanted to, I can't just drop a ban card here...

I'm not looking for a fight. Just asked for your take...

Daniel Ward87


I stated my opinion as a fact!




Sarah Edwards38 said:Zero facts. How you present an argument—any argument—is all about how you were raised.


But none of that matters when we're talking about, say, Politics!

What does upbringing have to do with appealing a ban or a warning!?

Honestly, outside of the Family thread where parenting is the topic,
this stuff has no business being in other discussions.
It's nothing but pure trolling and baiting fights!!

What are you even supposed to say to that?!?!
Start proving you had a good childhood
or lecture the person who brought it up about their bad upbringing!?!?!

I haven't seen a single thread where "upbringing" actually added anything useful!!!!

To put it mildly, it’s just a "polite" way to be insulting!!
It's just baiting people and drifting off-topic—total trolling!
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Parenting and upbringing tips!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Daniel Ward87 said:Are you 100% sure about that bolded part?

Daniel Ward87


I am!
There's a poll right there, so just cast your vote!
Or are we gonna fight until you ban me or something?
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Parenting and upbringing tips!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·

I’m calling for a ban on bringing up someone's upbringing or how they were raised
and anyone who mentions it should get hit with at least a 100-point penalty!
I’m asking for this because people keep dragging "upbringing" into debates constantly!!
To me, it’s just an insult, a total ad hominem attack!!

What does how someone was raised have to do with any argument made here!!
It seems to me like people only bring up parenting to be disrespectful
and stir the pot!!!
If I say Josip Broz Tito was a criminal—what does my childhood have to do with that!
If I complain about getting a ticket for parking in the wrong spot
WHAT DOES MY UPBRINGING HAVE TO DO WITH IT!?!?!!?

Let me be clear: it’s just a fancy way of insulting someone
by attacking their parents—like, "who made you, you're clearly a mess!!!"

Otherwise, you can respond to any single claim, statement, or fact by just saying "you were raised wrong"!!!
You could take anything written here and just say: Your parents failed you!!!!

We’re adults here, let's stop with the childish taunts and insults!!!!

If you feel the same way about this "upbringing" nonsense, back me up!!
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Should Obama be allowed to call himself a "Yugoslav"? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Charles Fox10 said:Listen, this moderator has spent nearly ten years on this Forum dealing with people constantly calling our President all sorts of ridiculous nicknames—everything from total nonsense to just plain insults. In the name of democracy and basic decency, I’m asking you guys to stop making up these silly or offensive labels for our President. Respecting the office means respecting the Constitution of the United States, and I think we can all agree that following our laws matters.

Thanks


Hey, we totally missed answering this one!!!
Isn't calling someone a Yugoslav supposed to be an insult?!?!
Does that count the same way as being called pro-European?!
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Should Obama be allowed to call himself a "Yugoslav"? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Charles Fox10 said:Look, this moderator has been dealing with people calling our President all sorts of names on this Forum for nearly ten years now. It’s everything from goofy nicknames to straight-up insults. In the name of democracy and just being decent human beings, I’m asking you guys to stop making up these ridiculous labels for our President. If we respect the office of the Presidency, we respect the Constitution of the United States. I think we can all agree that respecting our laws is important.

Thanks.


Right back at ya!
I'm saving this one.
Wait until someone tries to stir the pot!
If insults are allowed, then anything goes.
If they aren't, then they aren't—keep the Forum chill!

Personally, as both the President and a regular user here, I'm all for
banning insults against everyone, even the most basic users!
That way, the writing stays unique and colorful—makes for a better Forum!
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Should Obama be allowed to call himself a "Yugoslav"? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Charles Fox10 said:Let’s keep it simple here.

It can’t and shouldn't happen because that would basically insult the Office of the President and the Constitution.


Then we’d have to protect every single citizen!

But if he’s politically acting like old Yugoslavia
and is still pushing similar stuff now
what then!?
Are his moves allowed to be
seen as some Yugoslav duo act?!

Is he banned from sympathizing with Yugoslavia!?
Or is it just banned to point it out?!
In any democracy, even within political parties
you’ve got people representing all kinds of things
and if someone notices, does that have to be addressed!?
For instance, someone could call de-communization "Yugoslavism"
and drop a million pieces of evidence to prove it
without it being anything like Great Serbianism!
Personally, I think it's just the interests of the ruling elite
who act in ways that attract Mexicans or Yugoslavs...
Someone might actually want to rebuild Yugoslavia with views totally opposite to Great Serbianism!

The Constitution isn't meant to be insulted, just followed!
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Should Obama be allowed to call himself a "Yugoslav"? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Sam Green73 said:I’m not being disrespectful to the President; I’m looking out for the voters.
The insult is actually about how people interpret that term.
We have users here who think "Yugoslav" is just a polite way of saying something much worse.


Fine, then give me a list of everyone's personal opinions on this forum
and we can all decide how to "handle" each person!
We might dislike someone, but hey, they don't care anyway!

Personally, things like "fascist," "right-winger," "Catholic," or "dinaric" get under my skin.
Also "West Coaster," "relic," "Reaganite," "democrat," or "troll!"
If you want, I can explain exactly why I hate every single one of those labels.


Daniel Ward87 said:It's basic etiquette—this kind of language shouldn't be tolerated on a political forum. Who are we to stop you or anyone else from saying Kamala Harris is a peasant?🤷 That kind of stuff gets deleted, and it says more about the author than anything else. A ban for insults doesn't apply here because it's about insulting other users, not public figures. If you twist a public figure's name into a slur, that's a ban, but I don't see the point in banning someone just because they called an unknown politician an idiot.

Calling someone a "Yugoslav" isn't trolling, especially when you know the President is the candidate for the Democratic Party, who are basically labeled as communists, pro-Yugoslav, and so on.

Daniel Ward87


Where else would that label and its meaning belong if not on a politics board!?
It would be an insult to call someone that on any other site!
And wouldn't some people in America, logically, still be tied
to what lasted for nearly a century, or did everyone just vanish
like dinosaurs hit by a meteor in Siberia!?!?!
Some people are even still Reaganites, even though his administration was only about a decade ago!
So can we call "Yugoslavs" Stalinists then!?!?
People who love Reagan don't find it insulting to be linked to him.
Likewise, someone representing Yugoslav values shouldn't mind
being called by what they actually stand for!!!
This is politics; nothing happens in a vacuum.
Everything is interconnected!

I've decided to start calling Yugoslavs "collectivists"!
I'll start a thread about it in the Off-Topic section!
Check it out, it'll be eye-opening!
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Is this a political question? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
hollowtrucker77 said:Charles Martin2, thanks for the input, but subforum management is still strictly up to the mods
I think they made the right call here

Adler109, Charles Martin2 is spot on. Users shouldn't be meddling in admin business


No worries, thanks to the gods!

If I were a mod, you, Andrelon
would definitely be on my side
but I just stay out of
those debates entirely...

Don't go making peace!


steeleagle70 said:I get it, I stopped. My bad, apologies to Charles Martin2


You're forgiven for being good!
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Is this a political question? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Charles Fox10 said:So what, we just lock everything down for ten days and call it peace?

Ask a question and you're gonna get an answer, whether you like it or not.


The answer was technically right on the money
so I'm just sharpening the questions
to make things crystal clear!

Aren't the participants and sign-ups identical for both threads?!!??!
Totally identical!
Basically—the exact same topic twice!!
That breaks the Forum rules
and ruins the whole discussion!

If you just merged the threads, it’d be easier for everyone!

Forget locking them; merge the threads and ban the trolls!!!
At least ban the ones reported!
😍

Are my suggestions not solid and honest?!?!?!
For crying out loud...

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Should Obama be allowed to call himself a "Yugoslav"? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Sam Green73 said:I really messed up.
I didn't even give you points just to keep you from getting banned, and here you are opening a whole thread about permanent bans.

Bringing up someone who pulled over 60% of the vote in an actual debate isn't just trolling—it’s straight-up disrespectful.

Did I miss something?
Maybe you think being Yugoslav was all that great?

p.s.
Another new thread on the unknown boards.
Should we just play dumb for a bit?


Reagan was elected by a huge majority.
I mean, you can definitely call him that!

What kind of scale is that even supposed to be!?!!?
And what kind of freedom of speech are we even talking about?!?!?!
I always call her Merkel on those German forums.
Nobody ever complained. I even sketched it out using Uncle Sam's whiskers.
She looks great, honestly. Like she could be her own sister.
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Is this a political question? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
steeleagle70 said:Why now? 🤷😕


The standard rule here is you talk directly to the mods and admins.
Not even with some "friendly" and chipper forum folks.
Man, I’ve had my fill of that crap!

What am I even getting out of chatting with you?
Nothing but a red card for trolling here!

Step down!
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