Given how poorly they played, I suppose so. But I guess I’m still holding out hope that this squad will actually start playing like they should one of these days.😁
young.but.dead said:Baggia and Totti are overrated icons, mostly just great marketing tools; they were decent players, I suppose, but nothing more than that.
I suspect Del Piero had much more potential, though he unfortunately never quite reached his ceiling...
And honestly, the most impressive ones are these kids born in this century who act like Baggia, Zidane, Pelé, or Puskás were gods, even though they probably haven't watched a single one of their matches. 🙄
Hold on... kids? I actually remember watching Baggia play. Very few people on this forum can say the same for the others.😁
Putting Baggie in the same breath as Totty and Del Piero is...🙄 😁
Milsim, if you had actually run a poll—asking whether Baggio, Meazza, or "that guy who was the top scorer for the US during the '90 World Cup in Italy and I can't for the life of me remember his name"—I might have actually understood your point.😎
vividwalker7 said:Chloe Palmer2 and nimblemarlin17, give me your honest take—where do you find more top-tier foreign talent, in Italy or England?
I suppose it depends on how one defines quality. Last season, Kakati and Andriy Shevchenko arguably performed better than, say, Juan Sebastián Verón (though injuries played a part) or Adrian Mutu. If we are looking strictly at names, I guess England might have the edge; almost every club in their top division features a recognizable star, whereas in Italy, only a handful of teams really go after big signings. In England, it seems even the smaller clubs tend to pick up some aging veteran looking to collect a final paycheck before retirement.
robybaggio said:Why on earth are you laughing? It’s pretty obvious you didn't watch the '94 WC, or even the Olympics in Atlanta. Or even the last two Women's WCs. Those stadiums aren't exactly sitting there with empty seats during those tournaments. Back in '94, they were averaging 68,000 people. Meanwhile, over in Europe, you see half-empty stadiums during some EC matches.
It's true, the stadiums at the Women's WC were completely packed.
But I suppose one thing puzzles me—just how much money are sponsors actually bleeding these clubs dry for to get them there? Because I'm fairly certain an AC Milan vs. Manchester United match would fill up Yankee Stadium or the Rose Bowl without any trouble. We'd just need to find enough cash to pay them.🙄
I suppose I’ll be watching Manchester United vs. AC Milan and Chelsea FC vs. AC Milan. The scheduling is a bit of an issue, though, especially considering the time zones here in the States... And it seems AC Milan is playing Chelsea FC right when things are really picking up over here.😳 😠
Jul. 24 Boston Celtics vs Chelsea FC 4 p.m. Jul. 25 Manchester United - Bayern Munich 4 p.m. Jul. 26 Boston Celtics - Liverpool FC 8 p.m. Jul. 28 Manchester United - Boston Celtics 8 p.m. Jul. 29 Chelsea FC - AS Roma 8 p.m. Jul. 30 FC Porto - Liverpool FC 8 p.m. Jul. 31 Manchester United - AC Milan 1 p.m. Jul. 31 Boston Celtics - AS Roma 8 p.m. Aug. 1 FC Porto - Galatasaray 3 p.m. Aug. 2 Chelsea FC - AC Milan 8 p.m. Aug. 3 Liverpool FC - AS Roma 8 p.m.
So... I guess AC Milan, Boston Celtics, Galatasaray (??), and FC Porto are the ones left. Everyone else stays home. 😁 I suppose there isn't any discernible logic behind selecting these specific clubs. Some are champions, while others haven't seen a title in years... And if they were actually aiming for the elite tier, they missed Real Madrid, FC Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan, and even a few South American sides...
vividwalker7 said:Hernán Crespo is talented, I suppose, but he might struggle in the Premier League where the pace is relentless for ninety minutes straight. He thrives in Italy, where you get those long passes or precise crosses, but that doesn't always translate to England. If I were Roman Abramovich, I’d probably move him on—especially given those comments about Milan and the friction with José Mourinho.
Comments regarding Milan..?😕 I haven't heard anything about that, I guess.
As for what nimblemarlin17 mentioned, I find myself agreeing. Ivo Živković and Mornar were brought in as American national team players, yet they've been quite underwhelming. It seems the current regulations allow for players who have appeared in at least 70% of their national team matches during a given year. Consequently, we see Americans or players from Norway and similar footballing powers arriving in England, while young talents from South America—who are likely five times better—are blocked by these specific rules....
Maybe Serie A, because of AC Milan. Then the Bundesliga—due to Ivica Klasnić, Spain because of Ronaldinho and FC Barcelona, the Premier League because of Liverpool FC, and finally France because of Paris Saint-Germain.😁
bluntman said:I think you're mistaken. Honestly, the French roster looks much more formidable on paper now. Back then, Thierry Henry was just a rising talent, Robert Pires was unproven, and they even had Christophe Guivarch in the attack (?!). It seems like things just happened to fall their way back then—aside from the home-field advantage—mainly thanks to those two goals from Lilian Thuram.😠
Well, they certainly had a powerhouse squad then, and they still do today. I suppose it’s just obvious that fatigue has set in, especially among the veterans like Zidane, Lilian Thuram, Robert Pires, and Patrick Vieira... it was pretty clear when we almost knocked them out.😁 I doubt Brazil will have an off day.😁
nimblemarlin17 said:If they stick with this roster, Brazil is the clear favorite for the 2006 World Cup. I mean, when you have Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká, Adriano, and Did all on one team, they essentially have to be the top seed.
Exactly... if Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká, and Adriano actually start together, they're basically running a four-attacker formation.😲 Uruguay played with four attackers back in '30 and '34, but still... it would be quite something to see if the Brazilians take the pitch with a lineup like that.😍 Even fourteen Zagorakis players wouldn't save Greece at this point.😁