Posts by driftinggull13

I was skimming through some research in Wilderness a couple of years back, and honestly, it’s the same old story... if I remember the study correctly, the vast majority of controlled trials involving homeopathic remedies show absolutely zero effect beyond just a placebo. Some people try to argue there's stuff going on that can't be explained by the placebo effect alone, but the authors actually pointed out that a lot of these homeopathic studies weren't even conducted properly—they frequently blew right past the whole double-blind protocol. That was the conclusion after they analyzed about a hundred different studies... if anyone actually wants to dig into it, I could probably track down the reference later.
Personally, I think it's all just a bit of psychological maneuvering that might help someone feel better here and there, so hey, if it works for you, go for it... but otherwise, it flies in the face of common sense. It’s wild how much money is being funneled into this industry when they’re essentially just prescribing overpriced water.

Nemruth Dag said:I honestly don't think a Frenchman would see eye to eye with you on this... you're just being stubborn for the sake of it... and we all know how much they pride themselves on their cuisine.

There’s always going to be someone trying to rain on your parade, no matter what. And talking about "old-fashioned" ways? Like some outdated Beef Bourguignon recipe from a dusty cookbook...

Even his mom was nursing him unevenly, using one breast way more than the other, so he's been dealing with the fallout from that ever since...😢

wearyowl29 said:I'm a woman... just saying...

but those snails of yours look incredible... especially if you toss them in some parsley and garlic...

Good grief...😱 😱 I mean, seriously, where on earth are you getting the idea that you can even compare snails to a bloody, juicy beef tenderloin or a massive ribeye steak?

Melissa Cruz2 said:My mom basically dumped three turkeys on me because my freezer is always empty, and now I’m stuck with them and nobody even wants them.
So here I am, with zero room left for ice cream, and honestly, I'm just over it... 😢

A bigger freezer???😉

Melissa Cruz2 said:Look, I don't touch red meat at all, so basically I'm just sticking to fish.

And poultry.👋

I don't even touch milk. 😢 It just feels wrong... totally unnatural. It’s basically an animal secretion. That stuff is meant for a Calf, not for us. Not only does an adult human have zero biological need for dairy, but we aren't even the same species as the source... I can't wrap my head around why anyone would drink it. I get plenty of protein from soy milk, even if it's a total nightmare to find a brand that isn't loaded with GMOs... you practically have to hunt for it. But hey, I'd take that over Cow milk any day. 👎
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It's a good thing soy and all those other plants produce seeds and fruit specifically for human consumption rather than, say, their own reproduction or whatever...😉

rustymoose54 said:but honestly, 😁

whatever, the guy is a total pro... 👍

Nives RULES !!!!!!

Amy Davis said:I’ve heard about that too. Apparently, it works on some kind of electrolysis principle, pulling toxins out of specific organs through the pores in your feet. They say the color of the water changes depending on which organ is being targeted. Like, if you have high cholesterol, you'll see all this fat floating in the water... and for smokers, the water usually turns pitch black.
Supposedly, after doing enough sessions, it can even help stabilize things like blood sugar, blood pressure, and other health issues.
I don't know any more specifics than that.

I mean, I'm pretty sure electrolysis doesn't even work properly on AC current, let alone at all, but honestly, who cares about those tiny technicalities...
So, it pulls heavy metals and fat right through the pores in your feet? It stabilizes your sugar, your blood pressure, and fixes random diseases? If this thing could also brew a decent cup of coffee and guarantee me a night in bed with Nives celzijus, I'd be buying it right this second...😉

David Sanchez6 said:FOOD ADDITIVES (excerpt from a report by St. Jude Children's Research Hospital)
..... E-330 is the most dangerous additive out there; you'll find it in mustard, certain non-alcoholic pizzas, crab meat, some cheeses, and canned mushrooms.

Look, this is just a total hoax, we've been through this already... E-330 is just citric acid and it's perfectly harmless. Honestly, you can find it in fruit in massive amounts anyway...

northernskipper41 said:cream is way more energy-dense than milk
if you’re actually reading this stuff as closely as you claim, I have no idea how you missed my point... I never said it had a more balanced nutritional profile, quite the opposite, actually...

honestly, you’re a total piece of work if you think calling people who lack lactase as adults having a "defect" is okay, especially after everything that’s been laid out here...

I really don't have the patience to sit here and explain to you which specific nutrients an adult misses out on by relying exclusively on milk, and besides, that’s not even what we’re talking about right now...
look, kid, the youth are mostly just lying around sleeping, and that should be reason enough for you to use that brain of yours, which apparently runs at full throttle even while you're dreaming...

you seriously think your cat has some little biological tube connecting its digestive tract to a nipple just so kittens can nurse?
just go buy some cat food 🙂

Sugar and fat have an even higher caloric density than cream, but who even cares about energy density right now? I’m talking about balance and the variety of nutrients inside it. Who on earth decided that an adult human, or a cat, or any other animal needs to survive solely on milk? That’s just a figment of your imagination. Half of the stuff you wrote above wasn't even said by anyone else in this thread. You aren't even arguing with me anymore, you're basically arguing with your own premises and then fighting against them... it’s a total monologue, you might as well go talk to a mirror instead...
Again, try finding me a food that's as nutritionally balanced as milk.
Furthermore, if a young child doesn't need anything besides milk regardless of their lifestyle, that seems like a pretty solid indicator of the food's quality to me. And yeah, I'll stand by it—that people have a "defect"—because a massive portion of the population on this planet doesn't have that "flaw." It feels much more relevant to look at the vast majority rather than focusing on the specifics of Eskimos or some other niche group with unique developmental paths. Regardless, it doesn't change the facts...
Third time's a charm: find me a food with a composition as balanced and high-quality as milk, you absolute demagogue. I REPEAT: BALANCED AND HIGH-QUALITY, NOT MORE ENERGY-DENSE.🙂

northernskipper41 said:maybe take a look at the very first post you made in this thread before jumping in

... No, there are also milk products that are more nutritionally dense (higher energy content or whatever...) and don't contain that sugar some people find problematic....
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I’m not going to quote everything here. Just tell me, what exactly are these foods that are supposedly way more valuable than milk while having an equally balanced profile? Dry matter??? Please, you can get as much dry matter as you want from hay if that's your thing. Honestly, you have this incredible talent for reading things I never even said, and this is like the second time now... just try reading a little closer next time. It’s not like I ever claimed a cat should be fed nothing but cow's milk, especially kittens. For that matter, my cat actually has kittens right now, and she’s nursing them herself. Even if milk isn't the "perfect" food, she doesn't know any better because—according to your logic—she's just a cat, so she doesn't grasp these nuances...
Cats drink cow's milk, and most animals will grab at it if they can get their hands on it, so milk is a good food, except for those with certain sensitivities. I feel like I'm repeating myself for the third time now. So, go ahead, be a genius and tell me which food is more balanced than milk, since you're so convinced there are plenty out there...

northernskipper41 said:Look, Mr. Read, maybe if you actually bothered to read some physiology—and I mean real, actual science—instead of just skimming the surface, you wouldn't be lecturing me on stuff that's common knowledge...

I mean, seriously, why would anyone with a genetic lactose intolerance even touch a product that triggers them? Why wouldn't they just stick to fermented dairy where bacteria have already converted the lactose into lactic acid—you know, like yogurt or kefir? And if someone’s craving ice cream, there’s plenty of fruit-based options out there...

And as for cats, you clearly still have those old-school tropes stuck in your head about how cats just love drinking milk and hunting mice...
The lactase levels in adult cats drop to about 10% compared to kittens, so giving them milk is basically just feeding a petri dish for bacteria and begging for diarrhea—it's osmotically active, it messes with their gut flora, causes gas, all that...
Plus, the phosphorus concentration in cow's milk is three times higher, which isn't exactly doing their kidneys any favors either...

It would actually be pretty interesting to dig into the historical reasons why certain groups of people can't handle unfermented milk in the first place...

When it comes to the nutritional value of milk, it completely falls apart for that specific demographic...
Because of ignorance like this, battles were lost in history, though thankfully wars weren't lost because people eventually figured things out during the American Civil War...

If this stuff were "well known," I wouldn't be sitting here typing it all out, would I? Maybe try reading the thread a little more carefully... where exactly did I claim that milk is healthy for people who are lactose intolerant? Those folks aren't the benchmark for measuring the nutritional value of milk. And what's with this whole thing about cats losing lactase activity? My cat handles it perfectly fine, and it’s not just my cat...
Stop lecturing me about genetics or whatever medical condition you think you're an expert on and just talk about the nutritional value of milk compared to other foods. That's the only way to judge quality, not by looking at people it actually harms due to biological malfunctions. Is my point clear enough for you now?
If you want to compare food quality, then look at the composition, the variety, and the balance of nutrients within them, and then go ahead—find me one single food that even comes close to the quality of milk.

So Max, part of the milk was skimmed, big deal. So what? It has slightly less fat, so what?
What cereal are you even talking about? Please, go ahead, put some cereal in front of a cat and let me see if it eats it. That's a different story when companies hide stuff behind artificial flavors. Milk gets eaten plain and simple, and it's not just cats...
Come on, geniuses, which food item has a nutritional profile similar to milk?
Let me say it one more time for the people in the back: the nutritional value of a food has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not people are lactose intolerant.

dustypilot2 said:That’s just the truth... I mean, where on earth are you getting your information from, driftinggull13? Did your cat sit you down for a lecture on nutrition or something?...
😁

I was just reading through the reasoning for why we shouldn't be drinking milk, and it basically boils down to the idea that it's meant for infants, not grown adults... which honestly makes sense when you stop and think about it. I mean, if you really look at the biological reality here, humans are pretty much the only animals on this entire planet that continue to consume milk well after they've reached maturity... so, yeah, there's definitely some truth to the claim that it isn't exactly ideal for us once we're all grown up...

And there it is... the classic "I read somewhere once" approach. Honestly, if you’d just put in a tiny bit of actual effort to look up some legitimate literature—or even just scrolled through the old threads on this topic instead of jumping to conclusions—you wouldn't be asking such basic questions in the first place. I really don't get why people refuse to actually study physiology or nutritional biochemistry, choosing instead to swallow whatever garbage they find online or flip through those mindless, pseudo-scientific wellness magazines... it's just exhausting...
Look, milk is just fundamentally healthy because the nutritional profile is so perfectly balanced—you’ve got your proteins, fats, minerals, vitamins, and all that good stuff... honestly, that's really all kids even need to thrive. Is that part making sense to you? I mean, if you look at the facts, there isn't any other single food out there that hits those exact ratios quite like this does, so in my book, it's easily the best thing you can put on a plate...
Look, adults don't just sit around drinking milk, you know? It’s basic biology... I mean, an adult cat isn't exactly nursing from its mother while she's in heat or whatever, so why would they suddenly want it? You could try offering some milk to an adult cat if you really wanted to see what happens, but honestly, you'll probably just find out they aren't interested at all...
Oh, please... "bon ton"? What part of my last post was supposedly offensive? Honestly, I don't get it. The lady this was even aimed at already got a massive dose of reality, but she’s still clinging to those same tired beliefs despite being hit with nothing but hard facts... because, you know how it goes, facts only matter when they fit perfectly into her little ideological bubble, and the second anything contradicts her worldview, you just have to keep repeating yourself across a hundred different threads... it's exhausting...
Does this even make sense to anyone else?????? Good grief, I mean, seriously... how on earth are animals supposed to be drinking milk when they aren't even in their lactation period??????
Look, you really have to focus on the actual nutritional value here, rather than getting all caught up in the social implications or how it fits into some lifestyle trend... because honestly, if you aren't looking at what's actually going into your body, none of that other stuff even matters...😉

Sandra Hayes88 said:It’s not even a sure thing, but it definitely isn't healthy for him if he can't stomach it.
I mean, strawberries and fish and broccoli are all healthy too, but I guess some people just can't handle those either...

First of all, it is absolutely certain that milk is healthy, and from a nutritional standpoint, it’s probably the single healthiest food on the planet, way healthier than those three things you just listed, which is why babies and kids are raised on milk instead of just being fed fish or broccoli all day.
If someone can't handle it, it's because they have some kind of underlying issue, not because milk "isn't actually healthy," you get me???
And what, you want soy milk now?????? Please. Ice cream???? Good grief, what else is going to be labeled "ice cream" next, maybe "turkey steak" or something. We've already been through this. Seriously, pick up a physiology textbook and stop reading that quasi-nutritional garbage found in pop-science books and websites run by "health food" dealers and militant vegetarians.🙂

Sandra Hayes88 said:Why even bother eating anything with lactose in it?

Because it’s actually healthy and packed with nutrients... honestly, I don't get why people make such a huge deal out of it lately...😁>

Amanda Ward80 said:rustymoose54 and driftinggull13, thanks for the reality check... honestly, you guys kind of convinced me that my take on nutrition is actually totally sane and normal, so I feel pretty good about just keeping on ignoring all those various "nutrition gurus" out there. I’m not having any issues with my diet, and whatever extra weight I managed to Store Fat this winter, I successfully burned off over the last few months just by hitting the pavement for regular runs...

What I'm really wondering about—and maybe this isn't even directly related to the main topic, but bear with me—is the whole connection between sugar intake and bacteria in the body.

Since I've been dealing with bacterial issues and it seems like I've become resistant to antibiotics, I'm basically looking into every possible way to wipe them out, so I was curious if there's a link between how bacteria multiply and consuming sugar and dairy.

Thanks

Sandra Hayes88 and dustycanyon6, please hold off on the comments until driftinggull13 and rustymoose54 get a chance to reply to me...

Thanks for the shoutouts, though I think credit should go to dustycanyon6 and Sandra Hayes88 too, because if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't be going on such long rants...
But where are these bacteria? Urinary tract, digestive system? And don't be so certain about being resistant, either... bacteria don't just become resistant that easily.

dustycanyon6 said:Even sick people used to be healthy once... 😉 It’s like you’re completely blind—look, we live in the US, the land of McDonald's, where everything is loaded with sugar and saturated fats, so naturally, everyone is overweight and dealing with health issues. Just do the math! 😉 Haven't you seen Supersize me? I honestly don't get you—you're just going against everything we've learned lately, when even the biggest skeptics are starting to realize how toxic fast food actually is. Do you work at McDonald's or something, so you have to spread this fast-food propaganda? What's wrong with you?

And here he goes again... I don't eat McDonald's because it makes me feel like crap (which I hope is the last time I ever have to deal with it), but unlike you, I don't just fall for baseless propaganda, whether it's for or against McDonald's, or for or against so-called "healthy food." I use my own brain, plus I actually have an education... The second you try to dive into the actual details of nutritional physiology, it's clear you haven't got a clue, and the moment you pivot to internet demagoguery, you won't find anyone to talk to here because we aren't playing at that level. You're just like most of these "health food" fanatics who suffer from a chronic lack of basic knowledge regarding natural sciences and physiology. You just pick up buzzwords like Glucose, monosaccharides, insulin, or glycemic indices without having any real understanding—not even a surface-level one—and then it takes fifty-six posts just to explain what you actually read and how you mostly misinterpreted some biased half-information being served to you...
You should probably go back and look at your own stories about the dangers of Sahara, only to eventually conclude that there's just one molecule of Glucose in a single molecule of Sahara, mašala. You were ranting about how harmful Sahara is, and then you suddenly pivoted to saying the danger is actually the sudden insulin spike, which isn't even harmful for a healthy person anyway...
Anyway, I'm done wasting my time with you people...
Later,
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I mean, how much am I supposed to take these people seriously when they claim sugar is inherently unhealthy? Like, what’s the actual issue if it spikes insulin quickly? For healthy people, it honestly doesn't do a thing, and you can't exactly judge the healthiness of an entire food group based on how it affects someone who is already sick... Honestly, I'm just done wasting my precious time listening to these "healthy eating" propagandists who probably get paid five times over to push stuff that isn't even grounded in reality and is basically useless anyway.
It truly makes zero sense to me why someone would eat bread just because of the fiber or vitamins, then go around bragging about how much healthier they are since it has fiber and vitamins, when most of it is present in such pathetic, tiny amounts. Sure, if someone thinks it tastes better, fine, whatever, but this whole idea that 🙄 🙄
is just plain stupid in my eyes. If you want vitamins, eat something that actually packs a punch, like fruit, and if you want fiber, stick to vegetables, instead of buying into these whole grain breads that barely have any nutrients or fiber to begin with and cost an absolute fortune, like they're made of solid gold... I mean, does anyone actually believe there's a massive amount of vitamins or fiber in whole grain bread? And now we're supposed to believe white bread is "unhealthy"??? Or that sugar is "unhealthy"??? Just look at the power of propaganda. It's ridiculous.
Anyway, I'm not going to waste any more energy on this.

I don't mean to be rude here, but honestly, it feels like you two are just being plain dense... after all this explaining, it’s like nothing is sinking in, and on top of that, you're actually getting offended by someone having an education.
Of course glucose is healthy, and water is healthy, and the food we eat is healthy. But just like anything else, too much of a good thing is bad. You two are completely confusing the quantity of something with its actual health value.
SUGAAAAAR OR GLUUUUUZZUUUUU IS HEEEEEALTHEEEEEEY. SUCROSE IS HEEEEEALTHEEEEEEY. Sandra Hayes88, those whole grains and fruits of yours basically boil down to GLUUUUUZZUUUUU just like Sahara... is that clear enough for you now? The only difference is that the concentration of glucose in sugar (table sugar or sucrose) is way higher, but you aren't even eating nearly as much of it as you are some bulky whole grain bread or whatever other high-volume fodder you consume.
Sucrose is half glucose and half fructose. Once it hits your system, one molecule of sucrose immediately breaks down into one molecule of glucose and one of fructose. It’s exactly the same as if you sweetened something with half a teaspoon of glucose and half a teaspoon of fructose. I mean, can this get any clearer?
Read "sucrose" as "glucose" for your sake, dustycanyon6. Whatever amount of sucrose you have, you have that same amount of glucose, so suddenly glucose is O.K. but sucrose is unhealthy... unbelievable.
The logic you're using is absolutely beyond me... one second I think you finally get it, and the next, it's like you haven't understood a single word.
There is zero difference between that glucose and the glucose found in whole grains.
Jesus, how many times do we have to say this? A pastry from McDonald's provides the exact same glucose as whole grains. Do you two even understand what's going on at all?