Not sure which ones specifically, but you basically need almost every vitamin just to handle digestion and absorption properly.
And honestly, if we're talking about how sugar and white flour are just empty calories, it doesn't really matter which specific vitamins get used up breaking them down... probably the same ones needed for glucose, plus others. But unlike white sugar, things like honey or fruit aren't "empty." They actually have substance. I doubt you'd even grasp the chemical reactions happening during digestion if you won't even abstract from the basics.
If you're going to look it up, look up sucrose instead of glucose. That's the sugar I'm talking about.
Wait, what part of this isn't clicking? White sugar and white flour don't come packed with vitamins and minerals. Then you've got foods that are heavy on carbs but still provide the other stuff the body actually needs to function—things that aren't just being stored as fat or burned straight for energy.
Honestly, I'm struggling to follow... 😁 😁
I feel like even a middle schooler gets this. Not sure where you're getting stuck.
Casey Palmer5 said:What vitamins are we even talking about when it comes to processing sugar???
I mean, what kind of question is that? Every single digestive process requires a massive cocktail of vitamins and minerals—for enzymes, for digestion itself, for distribution, absorption... everything.
In that light, white sugar (or brown sugar), white flour, and stuff like white bread are basically labeled "empty calories" in medical circles. They provide nothing but fuel. To actually digest them, your body has to burn through its own stores of vitamins and minerals because there's zero nutritional value in the food itself. So, sugar essentially "consumes" your nutrients... leading to long-term deficiencies. We all know where that leads. You end up having to supplement just to get back to baseline, which shouldn't be necessary in the first place. Hopefully that clears things up.
If you want carbs that won't wreck your system, stick to whole grain bread, fruit, veggies, brown rice, or those other grains I mentioned. Those give you the carbs you need, plus the vitamins, minerals, and fiber to go along with them.
As for all that nonsense about milk being "dangerous"...😁 it just isn't. If you actually lack enough lactase to digest it (I've seen it happen), there are plenty of ways to work around it. Cooked, semi-cooked, yogurt, kefir, acidophilus, cheese, mozzarella... all those options are much easier on the gut. At least one of them is bound to work, even for someone who usually can't touch dairy.
A lack of dairy in your diet is way more dangerous because it leads to calcium deficiencies.
As far as I can tell, there isn't much of a difference. Chemically, it's the same compound. Sugar is tough on digestion because it burns through the vitamins we actually need. That’s why you shouldn't be reaching for chocolate when you have a cold or the flu... it just drags out the recovery process.
Swap the sugar-honey combo for fruit sugars, or just keep the sugar minimal—since you can't avoid it entirely—and stay active. The point mentioned earlier applies to everyone (using up vitamins and nutrients just to process sugar). Then you've got genetic predispositions for diabetes, not to mention other bodily issues that turn "harmless" sugar into a massive burden. Chocolate, pastries, cookies, sodas... you don't need that shit 😉, or at least, not really.
Unlike refined grains, whole grains like millet are actual health foods. They're packed with minerals, vitamins, and essential amino acids. Think of things like buckwheat porridge... 👍
The bad stuff is white bread and pasta. Those are basically empty calories, costing us more than they provide (kind of like how sugar works). It’s nonsense to say grains are bad for you when they're used in so many therapies for bone density and metabolism. Same goes for brown rice; without the hull, it's just carbs, but with it? You get Vitamin B. It’s a different story. It's just not as "smooth," and we've all become spoiled. We want everything processed and refined, but those are exactly the foods with zero nutritional value.
I can't say I agree with dustycanyon6, to put it mildly. Life has risks, sure, but there are alternatives. Milk and grains aren't the enemy; any baby knows they're essential, just like meat or fish.
But Emulsifiers and all those other chemical additives? Not necessary. And we haven't seen enough research on the damage they do. That's really what this is about. dustycanyon6, we're talking about synthetic additives we're putting into our bodies here. Please stick to the topic. I get that you're wound tight and feel the need to go off on everything, but... it's not cool. Dial it back and stop spamming the thread. I'm not interested in debating whether basic foods are harmful when they're clearly vital. If you don't overdo it, salt and sugar aren't the villains either. Especially milk—in yogurt, cooked, whatever—it's about choosing healthy stuff, like using butter or honey instead of refined sugar, and figuring out what works for your own body.
Besides, watching your food is only one part of staying healthy.
Pesticides in grains are an issue, just like antibiotics in meat. But you can mostly avoid that by sticking to organic food, which is somewhat regulated.
blueranger13 said:Watched a documentary on TV last year about people suffering from asbestosis back in San Francisco. Poor souls... they don't just have zero chance at getting any compensation, they're even denied disability benefits to at least die without starving. Don't get how that factory wasn't leveled to the ground.
And did you read that bit about them planning to build water lines using asbestos pipes in San Francisco? They aren't even banned here yet...
So, how many of you actually pay attention to—or try to dodge—those E321 additives? Is it even possible to find anything in your local grocery store that doesn't have stuff like E338 in it?
For instance, you can actually find packaged prosciutto without preservatives if you look hard enough...
Don't mention it. As for those big corporate types and their lobbyists, they're just playing ignorant. If people actually knew what was going on, there’d be way more public outcry. Eventually, these dirty industries are going to have to face the music if America wants to stay competitive globally.
Regarding asbestos-related illnesses and things like that... have you ever looked into Ayurveda? You could probably find some Ayurvedic practitioners out in California. They use a lot of oils designed to pull toxins out and balance the body. I'm not sure how much it helps specifically with asbestos damage, but an Ayurvedic treatment isn't going to hurt, especially when someone is already struggling. For breathing issues, there's Pranayama—it's this subtle yogic breathing technique. In cases of actual lung damage, who knows how much impact it'll have. But I do know that practicing Pranayama and just improving overall health can make a massive difference...
Here’s the stuff > was talking about. It's wild how that whole legal-medical mafia just screws people over. Meanwhile, everyone's terrified of getting laid off. Supposedly the company is doing great... but they claim they don't have the cash for settlements. Instead, they'd rather just grease the palms of certain doctors and judges.
Maybe this belongs in a new thread, but does anyone know anything about aluminum toxicity? It's everywhere—from Diet Coke cans to Old Spice deodorant. I've read stuff linking it to Alzheimer's and MS... basically damage to the nervous system...
I only managed to find one link, and it's in French. Here it is:
(Some of the most common additives containing aluminum include like food colorings 🙂
aluminum-based additives, such as dyes (why do processed sauces have color? Is it actually natural ingredients? 😁)
E173, which is aluminum itself (used for blue coloring in water).
(Or even anti-caking agents:)
Like anti-caking agents made with sulfate and aluminum compounds, found in processed foods, seasonings, bottled sauces...
E520, E521, E522, E523: (the aluminum sulfate family: used in egg whites for cooking, candied fruits, and preserved veggies...) E541 (confectionery items), E554, E555, E556, E559: Aluminum Phosphates and Silicates (found in dried powders like soups, mashed potatoes, refined salt, industrial cheeses, and powdered milk—which is also known to be hard on the placenta during pregnancy)
Look, Jamie Clark74, this isn't about self-governance. It’s just a total economic disaster. People are actually relieved if they can land any decent job that's even remotely related to their degree—and even then, the pay is peanuts. There’s barely any work in these small towns... Most people are just trading services and goods directly to get by. And all of this is happening while the dollar is overvalued. Imagine what would happen if the currency actually tanked...
People focus on existential threats first. They won't shut up about that stuff unless it hits them personally. In the West, social safety nets are way stronger than what we deal with here in America. We just kept the worst parts of socialism—bribery in small towns, endless bureaucracy, getting government jobs through connections... plus the courts and the police are a mess. They haven't really changed their methods at all...
The workers are getting totally screwed...
And then there’s those other filthy plants along the coast...
Following up on the Boeing topic regarding asbestos, I’m starting this thread about the stuff we interact with daily and ingest through our diet—those XYZ supplements, or materials like aluminum and those aluminum cans. Just sharing my thoughts here:
1. Does anyone know more about how harmful aluminum actually is? We find it everywhere, from Coca-Cola cans to deodorant (like Rexona). There's talk about links to Alzheimer's and multiple sclerosis—basically, damage to the nervous system...
2. Here's a link and some info on the dangers of additives like E102, E133, etc. substances
These things show up in more and more food products lately, not to mention cosmetics... It's almost impossible to avoid them entirely.
The goal isn't to panic like dustycanyon6. It's just about trying to choose "clean" food whenever possible—nothing with preservatives, emulsifiers, artificial flavors, or dyes...
How? Asbestos causes lung damage by driving those tiny needle-like particles straight into the lung tissue!
It’s obvious what kind of game they’re playing in Tampa. If they actually banned asbestos, that factory over in Clearwater would have to shut down—and not just them (unless they pivot to "emerging" markets in the third world, which I honestly worry about)...
One thing is certain, though. It looks like only the most toxic industries ever got built along the coast... stuff that now has to be closed, or is already being phased out, like the industrial zones around the Gulf Coast... it stretches from Florida all the way up the Atlantic seaboard... a total disaster. Then again, there's no work anyway; even the shipyards are barely hanging on... but it’s coming, inevitable... the shutdown of all that heavy, polluting industry... though before that happens, they'll probably just manage to land another municipal water pipe contract here and there...
Jamie Clark74, of course they laughed at you. When people lack real experience with this stuff, they cling to the illusion that life is safe. So when someone comes along and points out how this hasn't even been banned yet, it’s hard for them to face the reality that they're living in total ignorance. It always works that way... especially if they were sold something under the guise of "modern asbestos insulation plates" or whatever else. They'd have to admit they've been living in the dark, and people don't exactly love doing that.
Man, the US can feel like a third-world country in certain ways. It’s always bubbling just beneath the surface...
Anyway, regarding the situation in Pula and the water supply—it isn't just a rumor. It was actually published in the RH competition for the new Pula water system back in 2002.
Just search Google for: pula water supply asbestos Though maybe those pipes were only meant for sewage?
Either way, it’s unbelievable. In the EU, putting Asbestos into cement and various pipe valves has already been banned or will be banned by 2005 at the latest, yet they're planning to build a water system out of it in Pula.
When Asbestos gets banned, the ones who lose out most are the industries—and their growing markets in third-world countries, and apparently, the US too.
So, Jadranka Tocilj is a complete idiot. When the doctors who supposedly "specialize" in this stuff are this clueless and uninformed, it’s no wonder why asbestos isn't banned in America yet! Is it just a coincidence that it's banned in the EU? Of course not. There are plenty of studies she should have access to as a physician. It's an incredible amount of ignorance regarding reality... does she not realize that walls are constantly being remodeled, installed, demolished, and so on? That materials erode over time? Did she just get out of kindergarten? I honestly think she's from Mars. The level of stupidity in that article above is staggering. It’s terrifying when people like that are the ones making decisions that impact the lives of unsuspecting people. That's just how reality works and how society functions. This is exactly why most Americans in their 50s are already facing major surgeries or dealing with degenerative diseases. You really have to fight for your own health and learn to ignore all the bait they throw at you...
T. J.: Currently, the European Union bans both the production and use of asbestos. We still import it from Russia. The containers holding it carry those skull-and-crossbones warning signs. Asbestos is dangerous. As of today, asbestos isn't banned in America. If we want to look at our neighbors, I should mention that asbestos production is prohibited in Canada.
Medicina.hr: Are asbestos pipes dangerous, or is it more about things like thermal wall insulation?
T. J.: No, they aren't dangerous, provided there's no erosion or damage. Or if those walls aren't being torn down or remodeled. We don't actually know what the critical dose of inhaled asbestos is. Asbestosis is an individual disease. Everyone reacts differently. Someone might develop it after a month of exposure, while someone else might stay fine even ten years after exposure.
Jamie Clark74 comments!!!!! I've read through over 2,500 pages of info! Based on my own research and everything I've read, NO ONE gets hit immediately......... it's more like 15-30 years later!
Medicina.hr: You mentioned that asbestos is banned in the European Community. What’s the situation here?
T. J.: It isn't banned here, but there are maximum allowable concentrations in the air. Though we aren't sure how reliable those limits are because everyone reacts so uniquely. There's also the issue of lack of discipline during manufacturing—laziness and sloppiness regarding safety protocols. The protections exist, but hardly anyone follows them because the gear slows you down. Worker education would go a long way.
Yeah, I've already heard that asbestos isn't banned in America! I even heard they're thinking about using those pipes for water lines in places like Pula! (since they're having major issues with old infrastructure)
Of course asbestos plates in buildings are dangerous, and asbestos itself is too (that's why most poisonings happen in Austria, involving stuff installed back when it wasn't banned yet). I mean, materials always end up getting damaged eventually, so saying "No, they aren't dangerous, provided there's no erosion or damage." is just pure stupidity and totally detached from reality. Give it 10-20 years and every material will definitely show wear—whether from remodeling or just its natural properties.
But in America, it isn't regulated like it is in the EU or Canada... partly because environmental awareness and understanding how surroundings affect your life is basically non-existent.
you're looking in all the wrong places 😁 😁it's right there in the middle of Times Square! everywhere, really... UGH, those burgers! why would anyone try to dress up a burger like that!?