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Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Viktor Orbán has the law on his side; if he’s using xenophobic nonsense just to score political points, sure, we can call him a disgusting person, but we shouldn't prioritize highlighting his inhumanity over respecting the actual regulations.

And as for what you say about turning a blind eye to the rules—you shouldn't. At the end of the day, even German (or any other) EU politicians don't actually care about them, yet they simultaneously talk trash about Orbán like he's Dracula. Why doesn't an emergency session just vote on whether we're going to help these people or not? If the vote comes up "no," then Germany (and every other EU nation) is free to send transport and coordinate a specific asylum registration and transport regime with Canada and the rest of the states for all interested asylum seekers (it doesn't have to be trains 😬 this time). But there's just no political will for it.

We should have made it possible for these people to register directly from UN centers, and we still should.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Larry Fox5 said:ambertinker41, what is this even supposed to mean?

Look, I’m a "marketing shill" because I actually believe people should have the right to seek asylum—which, honestly, should be one of the greatest achievements of a free society and the peak of the civilization we live in. :klap:

I'm a "marketing shill" living in a country where I'm surrounded every single day by Muslims from the Middle East—many of whom are my actual friends—yet you're out here acting like some avant-garde visionary who sees through it all, treating a populist like Orbán like he's some kind of great white magician. 🙏🙏🙏

Just drop the politics, ambertinker41... soccer is a much better way to spend your time. 🙂

Fair point, but they aren't even seeking asylum. In fact, they're refusing to ask for it. My only generalization about these people is that they are currently, en masse, and in an organized way—not talking conspiracy theories here, but actual group refusals to register or accept aid like food and water—violating European Union laws. That’s it. Whether they are smart, good, evil, pretty, or cultured, I don't know, because I don't know them. This chaos they've caused serves no one; they’re just complicating the whole situation, which will make things harder for future asylum seekers, and potentially even for themselves.
And Orbán is right. This "right" you guys imagine exists, which ignores the legitimate authority of sovereign states over their own territory, is a disaster. We aren't talking about some crazy laws here, but the simple fact that you can't just enter and move around the European Union without documentation.
edit: And that's where your marketing fails—if you actually think Orbán is required (he isn't; he's prohibited) to let them into the EU. end edit.
There are ways to prove whether someone is from Syria or not, even without papers. The problem is when you prove they aren't from there, you still won't be able to prove where they *are* from just to send them back.

The way this is going, the mob has screwed over everyone who actually tried to seek asylum through legitimate channels. It seems like if you follow the regulations, you're treated like an idiot.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Germany and Sweden are basically the only ones where politicians actually roll out the red carpet for asylum seekers. It’s easy to see why they head straight for places where they won't be sent back once things settle down, especially since neighboring countries are just waiting for a chance to deport them. But you have to register, which they simply won't allow. Of course, even the Canadians aren't crazy enough to force registration when there's zero guarantee they'll get any financial backing for it.

There's also this ridiculous dynamic where Germany pushes through a decision that most other member states are against, then turns around and demands quotas and funding from the European Union.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Dennis Evans6 said:Do you actually have any data on these people wandering through Europe without papers? How many are coming from Syria? And you claim they’re all college-educated? You clearly have the evidence, you’re just holding out on me.

I still can't wrap my head around how it's even physically possible for people to trek across half of Europe—from Turkey all the way up to Scandinavia—without anyone stopping them to check their IDs. Is that even real? When Viktor Orbán tries to tighten things up, he’s practically branded Hitler 2.0. Are laws at the European Union level even enforced, or is it all just dead ink on a page?
Can someone give me a reasoned explanation (and please, leave out the "terrorist" and "fascist" 🙂 labels) regarding what the European Union's actual policy is for the inevitable waves of immigrants following Merkel's public invitations? Are we just letting everyone drift to their preferred destination before they finally ask for asylum? And what happens to the ones whose asylum requests get denied, but they have no papers and refuse to say where they came from? Who do you send them to? Is there any hope of stopping human trafficking and the profiteering off of human misery? I honestly can't fathom how incompetent the European Union can be; it feels like nobody actually gives a damn.🤷

Just to clear the air so there's no confusion: I am absolutely all for helping people from Syria. It doesn't matter to me if we take 100, 3,000, or 10,000... but these people need to come directly from Syria or from refugee camps in Turkey or Lebanon, not just show up at the border (or already inside the country) with zero documentation.
By the way, they're expected to arrive in America by next week since the Canadian route is being shut down. I'm sure the Americans in Canada will be more than happy to welcome them. 🎉

There’s zero plan here, at least nothing long-term, which is why everything looks so amateurish.
Merkel basically just announced she’s tossing out those rules meant to stop everyone from dumping asylum seekers on countries like Greece or Italy, claiming the war in Syria changes everything.
They somehow managed to forget to mention that you still have to claim asylum in the first European Union country you actually hit.
Those asylum seekers refused to register in Canada because they were terrified of being stuck there—which, let’s be honest, is exactly what happens if they can't prove they're actually from Syria. The Canadian authorities couldn't just let them slide either; doing so would mean breaking their own laws and violating their obligations to the Schengen agreement.
The circus is starting up again with those so-called "peaceful protests" sweeping through Germany and Austria, all to defend marketing hacks like Larry Fox5 while they point fingers at the Canadians and Viktor Orbán.
The Canadians are letting 4,000 asylum seekers through toward Germany, and then they have the nerve to start protesting and filing complaints the very same day, claiming they were only allowed in because they weren't registered.

Asylum seekers aren't interested in staying in Canada, Romania, Bulgaria, or Austria, and they’re actively dodging registration at the same time. They're just trekking down the highway toward Germany on foot. 🤦 The Canadians are basically providing free bus rides right up to the Austrian border because they can't just shut down the highway, for crying out loud. There isn't even a coherent plan, let alone a unified strategy, to deal with this whole burden. Honestly, these people have become a problem entirely by their own doing.

People showing up without any paperwork are banking on making it to Sweden because they know you can't exactly deport someone if there’s nowhere to send them—unless you pay some failing nation to take them back regardless of where they actually came from. And apparently, the Swedes just hand out citizenship after five years no matter what. Yet, at the same time, they act like jerks and refuse to accept unregistered asylum seekers coming from Denmark, but then they’ll happily provide transport over to Finland just so those people can register there and eventually slip into Sweden. It's a complete circus.

It looks like having papers proving you're from Syria is actually a massive advantage right now.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Sandra Johnson58 said:It’s not like Harry Potter waved a magic wand and turned Europe into what it is today—so much blood has already been spilled for this. Besides, some EU countries are already digging their heels in against taking economic immigrants, and others, like the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Denmark, are basically exempt from these imposed quotas. The Germans will take in as many as they can handle, but even now, Angela Merkel is hinting that not everyone can stay in Germany. If they can't be moved to other countries, they’ll just be sent back or stopped before they even reach the EU. And if stopping them doesn't work? Well, then it’s whatever—it's like when the Bulgarians lined up tanks along the border; if people don't like it, too bad.

European nations don't have repatriation agreements with Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, or likely even Syria. Without the right paperwork, you can't force anyone to take them back because you can't prove they are citizens of those places.

But this populist approach Merkel is playing with refugees is just plain retarded. You can't claim you aren't going to follow the Dublin Regulation and then act surprised when refugees don't bother following the standard asylum procedures.

On top of that, thousands of refugees who made it to Germany have already been asking to be sent to Sweden instead. 😁
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Jessica Gonzalez said:I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I haven't actually gone anywhere, though I suppose I've had plenty of chances. Is the solution to every problem just for everyone to move to Germany? Honestly, it feels like all of Eastern Europe thinks that way—like everyone should just give up and take a bus to Munich for a few extra hundred bucks. I guess the difference is that Germans didn't build their country by running away after things went south in World War II. That seems to be the distinction between them and many migrants. Some people focus on building something, while others maybe just wait for someone else to do it for them.

First they built a regime led by a certain high-quality mustache, and then they ended up playing the "who has more" game with credits provided by whoever had more to give. If they were receiving credits like what Syria can expect from the IMF, they'd be even more of a disaster than Iraq is today.

edit: Vekjo already hit the nail on the head.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Noah Roberts46 said:For God's sake, all anyone needs to do is end this damn war. If the major global powers actually had the will to make it happen, this entire crisis would have been settled ages ago. If these people hadn't meddled in places they had no business being, most of them wouldn't be knocking on the doors of the European Union right now. Honestly, they’d probably have a better quality of life back home than they do here.

"Everything." No one is going to foot the bill for that. Just throw it up for a referendum—ask if they want the country actively involved in a war thousands of miles away at a cost of millions of dollars a day—and see how it goes. It won't pass anywhere.

Any government that starts a war in Syria is going to lose their next election. It sounds stupid, but it just doesn't pay off.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Jessica Gonzalez said:When things were actually falling apart back home, people fought. There's a big difference between talking about it hypothetically and facing reality.

It’s already been pointed out that we had a very clear "us versus them" dynamic here, whereas the situation in Syria is way more complicated than anything we dealt with during World War II in this region.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Jessica Gonzalez said:I guess you could try to find an example in history where young men were fleeing wars en masse and it was considered okay. In the chaos unfolding right now, it seems more like a struggle between ISIS and everyone else. Even back during the conflict in Canada, there were several sides involved, and it was seen as shameful for men to run away. I suppose people die in wars, and nobody wants it to be them, but as Robin Fox2 suggests, if they run, why should anyone help them? I think the videos speak for themselves; at the stations and on boats in Budapest, most of the people are healthy-looking young men. Meanwhile, critics keep bringing up dying children. It feels like comparing apples to oranges to me. Everything is being lumped together, even though those things aren't really related.

And look, it's a given that many of those guys have wives and kids. It's not like everyone over there waits until they're 30 to get married. They'll find a job way before any women show up, and Germany has a relatively straightforward process for reuniting asylum seekers with families left behind. Sweden, on the other hand, hands out citizenship after five years like it's nothing.

And yeah, I wouldn't fight for two minutes if the conflict were happening here, and that's not because of Karamarko, but because of Americans.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Michelle Palmer6 said:Well then, why don't you take a week-long trip to Syria and prove it to us?

The thing is, most of those people aren't even from Syria, if you ask me.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Is anyone here actually looking into inheritance law?
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
The war has been dragging on for four years, but we're only seeing this massive exodus now. Apparently, they've finally slapped a ban on letting migrants in, so now everyone is out protesting in Canada. This is all going to end beautifully.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Larry Fox5 said:Michelle Palmer6 is acting all high and mighty here. From the comfort of their warm little armchair, they're out here mocking and
judging people who are literally naked, barefoot, and starving just trying to find the bare minimum to survive...

They can reach that bare minimum in any EU country, or actually, nowhere at all if they don't apply for asylum. If they want a decent life, they need to respect the laws. Obviously, you can't blame them when the EU didn't set things up that way to begin with.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Michelle Palmer6 said:And Americans would love to start a war just to head off to Canada, Slovakia, or Bulgaria. Hold on—if we had a war recently, where did the refugees go?
People head wherever they believe life will be better. Sure, maybe they’re being selfish in that regard, seeking out opportunities that thousands of others can only dream of, or working incredibly hard to earn them. But even with all the migration perks available right now, I wouldn't want to be in their shoes for a single second.

Out of more than 3,500 people on one train, only six stayed in Austria. You can't really say if they'd want to be in those shoes or not, because you don't know why those specific people fled. Not everyone is a refugee from Syria; some are coming from all over North Africa. And since there’s zero actual control happening, you can't realistically gauge how many emigrated for the same reasons as tens of thousands of Americans in the last few years, or for some other less critical reason.

Look, I'm not advocating for shooting people or any of that nonsense, but I am for processing centers and strict inspections for adults.
And yeah, our people definitely headed to Italy, Canada, and Austria—they absolutely did. By the way, folks from the Midwest were fleeing to Canada, and if the borders with Romania or Bulgaria were open to the north, they would've gone there instead. When trouble hits, you don't get to be picky.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Jessica Gonzalez said:From what I can gather, there's just constant war in the Middle East, and I guess peace and stability won't return to those nations unless the people living there make it happen themselves. Historically, it seems like it’s usually young men who pay the price in blood for freedom and peace, yet these young men are running away. In my opinion, they aren't refugees or migrants; they're just cowards. It's one thing to see a column of women, children, and the elderly, like what happened back in El Paso. Those are true refugees and displaced people who definitely deserve help. But I don't really see why Europe should feel obligated to assist young men whose place is actually on the front lines.

I think it's hilarious how they all aim straight for Germany. Not Greece, Bulgaria, Canada, or Austria.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Jessica Gonzalez said:Seems like they're on the right track.

So, is this actually happening or just more media propaganda? Is it worth even paying attention to?
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
No meat left for the Hatters?
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Amanda Evans2 said:That track is ancient history. Seriously, have you even heard the latest hit yet?


productive guy
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Amanda Evans2 said:It’s sweltering out here, and honestly...

Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Ashley Bailey6 said:Highest attendance: RB Leipzig 🤣

What a lunatic. He could actually make it in life if he wanted to.
He just needs to channel that drive and energy into a real career.

An American likes this. 👍