Posts by Noah Roberts46

@stormytiger4/">@@stormytiger4

What is the UFC even doing to these fighters? How does the NBA not organize fights like this? To me, it’s all the same mess, actually, it’s worse in MMA. In the NBA, you have teams and players... basically three sides involved, and everything seems pretty well balanced. With the UFC, we only have two sides, and one side just keeps smashing records while nothing changes elsewhere. But hey, those are different organizations, so I guess we can set that aside.

Of course fighters are going to demand more money once they’ve built a name for themselves. You don't think they'll ask for more when they have zero backing and know they'd be getting screwed from the jump? But these guys built their own brands through hard work and, more often than not, sheer marketing—because the UFC isn't going to build your reputation for you if you don't grind for it (look at Stipe). That’s why most fighters nowadays have their own YouTube channels and stay relevant through social media and podcasts. I don't see the UFC doing anything for their promotion compared to what major leagues or clubs do. If anything, I'd say they do less.

And sure, I get that there are some clueless fighters expecting massive payouts, like Jake Paul, who spent years building his brand on YouTube. But if it's guys like Nick Diaz and Jorge Masvidal asking for more—guys who sell just as many PPVs and spent years building their names fighting everyone under the sun for peanuts... then screw it, they deserve it.

stormytiger4 said:Look, leagues and clubs operate on entirely different levels. Clubs are one thing, leagues are another. The UFC doesn't really fit neatly into either category, which is exactly my point. You can't even begin to compare how money is distributed to athletes when the entire structural foundation is fundamentally different.

Why can't they just run it like a proper league? It’s not like they’re footing the bill for the fighters' training camps or managing their gym operations. What exactly are they doing that the NBA isn't? I honestly don't get it. 🤔

Yeah, you really thought you were clever with that little joke about Dana White having too many employees. 🤣 He’s the one everyone calls out—nothing more than a ruthless capitalist with a snake in his wallet.

Look, I’m just here to mess around a little. 🤣

You still haven't answered my main point, boss. If the UFC is supposedly smashing every single record in the book, how does that work? According to their own hype, if PPV prices keep climbing, why on earth are fighter pay and bonuses staying exactly the same?

Maybe I’m just missing something here. But surely it isn't just me—every single MMA journalist out there is talking about this. These people actually know what they're doing and are way more plugged in than I am, so there's clearly something to it.

Jon Jones has the money, but is it even worth the grind he’s used to? All that pressure, the grueling camps, and the mental toll? Honestly, probably not—especially when he realizes he can just pivot to boxing, mess around, face someone like Jake Paul, and walk away with double the cash. Look at the landscape: GSP is retired, Khabib Nurmagomedov is out, and Kamaru Usman is already talking about hanging it up. It’s simply not worth risking their legacy for a smaller paycheck. Why go out looking beat up like Dominick Woodley just to chase an extra million or two? You can make that kind of money through smart investments. It's not life-changing wealth.

And don't even get me started on the constant trash talk between the UFC and its fighters. For the last few years, it feels like there hasn't been a single star who hasn't clashed with Dana White in the media. Let me repeat: the UFC isn't boxing; they hold a monopoly. They could eventually function like the NBA or the NFL... obviously not right now, but long-term. However, they aren't going to get there acting like this. How do players in those leagues handle it? Why don't they just retire after two seasons with $60 million in the bank? Feel free to elaborate. This is a different sport, sure—maybe the NFL is more physically damaging than MMA—but damn it, people would fight for anything if you threw enough money at them. Give them three fights a year for a few million and watch how fast things change.

For me, the biggest hit would definitely be a Major loss regarding Franjo. It doesn't matter where he goes, but the organization loses its prime Heavyweight beast, and potentially the greatest knockout artist in MMA history—the guy they tried to mold into their own Mike Tyson. What kind of loss is it for anyone else when you're dealing with a talent like that? 🍿

stormytiger4 said:Comparing sports is a complicated business. People try to compare the UFC to a single club, but that’s just wrong—it's more like comparing them to an entire major league. Sure, it might look like a gym from the outside, but they have over 500 fighters under their roof and 400 employees on the payroll. They handle everything themselves: the promotion, the rankings, the belts, and even their own regulatory oversight when they travel to parts of the world where there isn't an established MMA commission. A single club doesn't do any of that. On the other hand, a massive league is made up of tons of different clubs that all handle their own operations, so even then, the comparison falls apart. It's just not the same thing.

Look, leagues and clubs organize a massive amount of logistics. You’ve got major brands like Real Madrid, Manchester United, or the Los Angeles Lakers putting in the work, just like the UFC does. But clubs go much further—they manage player training sessions, gear, nutrition, and overall health oversight way more intensely than the UFC ever could. Does the UFC handle full training camps, equipment, and meal plans for their fighters? No. Leagues set up the entire infrastructure required to keep the competition running, doing everything you just listed that the UFC handles. So, how does it make sense for every player to walk away with a 50% split when those two entities—the club and the league working in tandem—do significantly more heavy lifting than the UFC? Something about that math just doesn't add up.

If you compare the UFC to boxing, the difference is night and day. In the UFC, promoters focus almost exclusively on selling fights; they don't handle belt distributions, and there’s zero self-regulation. I remember reading somewhere that most major boxing promotions—with the exception of Showtime, which is tricky because they’re part of a much larger organization—operate with just a handful of people. We're talking about two offices and maybe ten employees running the entire show. That's the whole operation.

Maybe the UFC is carrying way too much dead weight on the payroll. ☕

To wrap this up: I don't think the payout percentage even matters here, and honestly, I’m fully backing Danny on this one. The UFC builds the fighters, but I'm the one pulling all the strings around here. Once these guys finally make it big, they’re going to start screaming, "Where's my money?"

Look, it’s the same story with major leagues and big clubs. They’re constantly scouting, employing massive teams of talent scouts scouring the globe for the next big thing. Honestly, they probably put more effort into that than the UFC ever will—soccer is a much bigger global sport than the UFC will likely ever become.

Look, we’re out here talking about the fastest-growing sport on the planet. MMA only really hit the mainstream in the last fifteen years or so. Before that, most places wouldn't even let them step into a cage. Now, they claim to be breaking records every single year, signing massive deals with every crypto company under the sun—deals that somehow never actually trickle down to the fighters—and PPV prices have absolutely skyrocketed over the last five years. From a business standpoint, it’s never been better. But fighter pay? It hasn't budged in years. When was the last time anyone saw an actual increase in knockout bonuses or performance incentives? It's ridiculous.

Now people want to lecture us about how raising salaries would lead to a situation just like boxing. Let’s look at this logically: the UFC has a monopoly, which makes organizing fights significantly easier. If the pay was actually higher, fighters would be far more motivated. Look at the NBA—players earn millions, yet they still show up and play; they haven't walked away. If you gave Franjo a contract requiring three fights a year with a payout of $10–$15 million, do you honestly think he wouldn't fight? Why are we seeing more and more UFC fighters jumping ship to boxing? Why is the whole Jake Paul phenomenon happening? Why is Kamaru Usman calling out Canelo Alvarez and Franjo Fury? If that kind of money were available in the UFC, they wouldn't be out there embarrassing themselves in a boxing ring. In my opinion, guys like Conor McGregor, Jorge Masvidal, and Nick Diaz would be fighting much more often if they were actually getting paid what they deserve. And let's be real: who in boxing is a bigger star than them? Nobody is bigger than Conor. Beyond him, you've got Canelo, but I can't even think of another name off the top of my head who has moved over a million PPVs. I'm just looking at the numbers.

If we keep seeing patterns similar to what happened with Francis Ngannou—and it looks like it's becoming the norm—we’re heading toward a future where a Heavyweight champion might only fight twice in two years. That means fans are going to miss out on massive events. They already missed out on Jon Jones because of the money issues; regardless of how people feel about him, he’s easily one of the top three PPV stars in the history of this organization. Fans put up with all his nonsense while he was fighting, but once the big money was on the line, everyone bailed. It’s the exact same story with GSP, who suddenly parted ways with the company the moment the paycheck didn't look right.

To be honest, I have no clue how things actually work in boxing. 🤣

And all this talk you're making about blackmail and mafia-style tactics? It's a joke. That's amateur hour, like something you'd see in some small-town local league. The UFC can, and absolutely must, do better, otherwise they'll end up just like boxing for entirely different reasons.

Roger Mendoza422 said:And that’s considered "a little"? What do you think tennis players make if they aren't at the absolute top? Or even the boxers you brought up earlier... I personally know guys who played pro football and now they're stuck working shifts at a local sportsbook. It's the same story everywhere. If you aren't elite, you're basically broke.

Look, 16% is pathetic. You can try to spin it however you want, but that's three times less than what you see in any other serious sport.

So, Hrga pulled in a measly 15k for the scrap against Molina, which is just pathetic. Even Franjo didn't walk away with just 600k for this fight; realistically, he probably cleared one or two million. If I recall correctly, Jon Jones mentioned he was pulling in somewhere between 3 to 5 million once you factor in his PPV shares, sponsors, and all that.

Word is that some fighters were actually making even more back before they signed that Reebok (now Venom) deal, back when they were allowed to rock their own sponsor gear. At least for the guys at the top.

Nicholas Nguyen said:And they’re even better off with that measly $10,000 minimum per fight beginners pull in.
Once you settle the taxes, the gym fees, trainers, sparring partners, physical therapists, and everything else, there's absolutely nothing left.
Add the fact that most fighters only compete once or twice a year into the equation...

You'd make more money flipping burgers at Los Angeles.

Look, Geoff Neal—a guy who has headlined a Fight Night and fought on major PPV cards—was working as a waiter until recently just because the money isn't there. I'm not saying everyone needs to be making millions to bother fighting, but it's been proven in court that fighters only see about 16% of the total revenue. In any other serious sport, that number is 50% or higher. End of discussion.

The media buzz is growing; UFC stars have popularity levels equal to, if not greater than, boxers, yet they earn three to four times less. You've got more and more disgruntled fighters, and now Jake Paul is messing with Dan. 🤣

I don't fully grasp the details of the ongoing lawsuit right now; Luke Thomas mentioned something about it a while back during a segment with Joe Rogan, but my memory is fuzzy. Still, this could reach a breaking point soon. It's pathetic—fighters scraping by on $10k have no choice but to keep going, but those at the top might actually be able to force some change. If Franjo actually leaves, what are his "brothers" going to do? Just sit there in silence? I highly doubt it.

The Orient Express is easily the weakest link, followed closely by Steve Irwin.

Those little animations featuring foxes and dogs are criminally underrated. Let’s see what the hipster has cooked up this time—he rarely misses the mark. ☕

goldenhound32 said:1. It’s like some nasty sugar rush from a Hershey's egg that hits you all at once, then slowly fades away over a few minutes.👎

I don't get it either, but it's just plain stupid. One minute the women can't even stand up, and the next they're running around like crazy.🤦

Ashley Grant66 said:I definitely picked up on the influences of Suspiria and Repulsion most clearly. There’s probably more where that came from, but I also got strong vibes from The Neon Demon, if I recall correctly.

spoiler

When the main villain is finally revealed in Deep Red, wasn't the old woman responsible for that too?

Honestly, I see the same or similar plots a hundred times and I always forget. Or rather, I rarely jump to conclusions before the movie spells them out for me. I mean, the old lady even says in the film she’d kill her boyfriend if she actually caught him—talk about blatant, useless foreshadowing.🤦 🤣

Anyway, I agree with the majority that it's worth a watch and at least decent, but it might be the weakest film from Edgar Wright since nothing about it feels particularly special. Just a weaker script. The acting and everything else is predictably high quality, though. Great music, too.👍

Steven White96 said:I watched The World's Fastest Indian from 2005 today, and I'm convinced Hopkins's character here is absolutely identical to his role in The Father from last year—the one that earned him an Oscar.

Actually, the character is so similar that you could easily view The Father as a sequel to this movie.

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed this?

Good catch. I watched that one shortly before The Father myself. Both performances were excellent, but they feel remarkably similar.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9639470/?ref_=tt_mv_close

It’s been a minute since we’ve seen an Edgar Wright film, and honestly, this looks like a massive departure from his usual style. It’s clearly leaning hard into horror territory.

The plot follows a young woman obsessed with fashion who somehow finds herself spiraling back to 1960s New York City. There, she crosses paths with her idol—an up-and-coming singer. But turns out, 1960s New York isn't quite what it seems, and the timeline starts fracturing with some pretty lethal consequences.

CAST: Anya Taylor-Joy, Matt Smith, Thomasin McKenzie, Diana Rigg

Trailer:



Looks interesting enough to me. It hits US theaters on November 4th, and I'd guess it won't hit streaming until early next year. Even if the movie misses the mark, at least the soundtrack should be killer. ☕

🤣🤣

rustywalker1 said:

🙂

🤣

Look, I haven't sat down to watch it yet, but clearly everyone else is disappointed. After checking out this video and basically piecing the whole movie together in my head, I honestly don't even feel like bothering. Some of these creative decisions seem incredibly stupid.

It devolves into total trash comedy toward the end, so if you absolutely have nothing else to do, maybe give it a shot.🤣 Aside from that, the whole thing is a slog, and frankly, the acting from almost every supporting character has been some of the worst I've seen lately.

brisktrucker51 said:Is this what we're doing now? Stalking other people's threads and posts just to hover around?

Look, I follow those threads anyway, so I figured I’d jump into the chat thread to mess around a little—especially since it's mostly nonsense there regardless. Why so serious?

That’s exactly what the off-topic chat room is there for. ☕

I’m genuinely curious if our colleague Crow89 is actually writing these lyrics about Tyson himself, or if he's just ripping them off some site—you know, like how people grab movie reviews from IMDb. 😂

That would certainly explain those incredibly clunky, sausage-like sentences. I'd love an answer whenever/if he decides to show up again.

Seriously though, this kind of humor isn't even funny to a fifteen-year-old anymore. 🤣

A hell of a good time.