That version just doesn't exist. The guy basically ruined the best scene just so he could squeeze in some Elven smithing. In that scene, they’re supposed to have those deep, resonant voices.
Aren't they just oversized thugs? Please. They're actually larger than Aragorn. I didn't even notice him screaming during the negotiations with Liv across the river.
They're built like Arnold Schwarzenegger. If they aren't training boxing or hanging out at local pubs in their downtime, what exactly do they do? They spend their time training for the Ultimate fight and acting like bouncers at VeselogTroll's club.👍
And there isn't a single word mentioned about their eyes or their limp.😉.
Visual complaints? What "visual complaints" have I even raised? You brought up the Black Riders. Fine. What do Tolkien's Black Riders look like? They are dark, hunched figures with glowing eyes, possessing a "shrill" voice and radiating a black mist around them. Their presence is terrifying because they seem truly "out of this world." Then you have Peter Jackson's Black Riders. Just tall thugs who probably spend their free time training in boxing or acting tough at some local dive bar; they have deep voices and there's nothing behind their eyes. Black mist? What even is that? They only "scare" people with their macho aesthetic. So now, is this a mindless butchering of the book by someone with no connection to fantasy, or is it a visual complaint?
I’m going to step in and defend J.R.R. Tolkien for a moment—even if Tom Bombadil is a complete idiot. People quote his poetry and throw verses around left and right; what else could possibly be wrong with the books?
Is the first movie good? Did it deviate too much from the book? You can think what you want. I don't want to get into a heavy debate right now, but I have to disagree with you. Everything missed the mark. From the overall atmosphere down to the Black Riders, the Moria sequence, and even how Saruman's green lightning—which looks like something out of a B-list horror flick, and let's face it, that's Peter Jackson's specialty—creates a storm that forces them to divert into Moria. HAHAHA. Then there are those "Đinovski octopuses" that aren't even in the book, of course. In the text, you just see tentacles, which adds to the mystery and mood, but no, Jackson had to show the entire world that it was actually one giant octopus. And don't get me started on the trolls being different from the book, or how in the book, when they encounter the Balrog, Aragorn, Gimli, and the gang are practically shaking in their boots—to the point where I think Aragorn almost drops his sword—whereas in the movie, they act like these big heroes ready to jump straight into a brawl. I won't go any further, or I might get carried away since that wasn't my original intention. All in all, I wouldn't say Peter Jackson was staying "like a drunken plot" regarding the book during filming. Think about it. If he actually had, the movie would have been much better. He could have just said, "This is my vision and my take on Tolkien's work," instead of claiming he was sticking faithfully to the original. It isn't even an issue that he cut things out due to the runtime, or that Tom Bombadil is a total fool. But the parts he actually did include from the book? Just give us that, man, and film it literally. As for the second part—well, that was just pure garbage and such a massive deviation it's unbelievable. Enough about that. Just read the book; push through the first twenty pages which aren't particularly gripping, and everything after that is pure enjoyment.
I’d suggest reading the books first. They might be thick, but once you get hooked, you won't be able to stop until you've finished all three. Especially if you're into sci-fi, fantasy, or similar genres. For me, Conan the Barbarian is an incredibly powerful film. Lord of the Rings can practically hide in a mousehole compared to it, but that's just talking about the movies. Comparing J.R.R. Tolkien's books to the Conan film? It’s an impossible comparison.
To be honest, I think the Lord of the Rings films are total garbage—just mass-marketed fluff produced by someone who understands the fantasy genre about as well as I understand Nikita Khrushchev's sex life. He just went through genius Tolkien's work whenever he felt like it, and all the changes are at a primary school level, completely lacking soul or imagination. That’s my take on it. Regardless, read the books first and you won't regret it; otherwise, I guarantee you won't even make it halfway through.
Does anyone remember the name of that movie? I’ve completely blanked on the title, the director, and even the cast (though they weren't major stars). It's about Aliens taking over the Earth using some kind of device to disguise themselves as regular humans. Then, a group of people finds special glasses that allow them to see through the disguise and spot hidden messages in things like commercials or movies. I know it might sound like total garbage, but it really isn't. The film is actually quite good. Anyone who has seen it will know exactly what I mean.
Also, I really enjoyed that older one—I forgot the title again—starring Charlton Heston. In that one, a disease sweeps the world, turning the rest of humanity into these creatures that hunt at night, and they're looking to get a little blood from old Charlton. What was that called?
Honestly, what a disaster of a sequel. It would have been better if they just left it alone.🙂
It's all amateurs. I think Americans are just a bit too dim to grasp the nuance of that movie, which explains why it flopped at the box office. Look, if it isn't "family-friendly entertainment," people just don't want to touch it. It’s pathetic how the film industry is basically dictated by the tastes of teenagers between 10 and 16. Truly awful.
Did you guys realize that the original version of the old Talladega was actually 26 miles🙏 🙏 🙏? That’s my question for you. Man, if only the authorities could somehow pull off something like that👍.
IndyCar, without a doubt. If they hadn't messed up that artificial chicane right in the middle of the longest, fastest straight on the track, I'd actually respect them. It’s just plain disrespectful.
Michelle Alvarez8 said:I learned that if you’re just some farm boy from the middle of nowhere, the first person you need to win over isn't just your sister, but the princess and heir to the biggest empire in a galaxy far, far away.
Then, a disorganized band of poorly equipped, untrained rebels will somehow crush superior forces in any logical universe, simply because they happen to be the bad guys.
And finally—never trust a guy wearing a black helmet.
😁 😁 😁 You hit the nail on the head, Michelle Alvarez8. I also learned that a piece of technology capable of destroying entire planets apparently has two tiny holes that aren't covered or protected at all, leading straight to the core, so if you toss a torpedo in there, everything just explodes right into space.
Furthermore, I learned that certain underdogs—little teddy bears armed with spears and clubs—can actually take down elite troops. To top it off, after watching the latest Star Wars in brief, I’ve concluded that Lucas is an absolute idiot who ruined the franchise. Honestly, God-why did he even bother making the sequels???
For instance, if it weren't for Mel Gibson, there are countless things I wouldn't know about—either they weren't covered in school, or I simply wasn't paying attention when they were part of the daily news cycle. - "Gallipoli" — how many of us actually knew anything about the Turkish Front during World War I, let alone the role Australians played in all those conflicts where the United Kingdom decided to step in? - "Year of Dangerous Living" — we knew virtually nothing about Indonesia, other than their membership in the Non-Aligned Movement. - "Braveheart" — who ever taught us about the Scottish resistance against the English Crown, or the poverty and humiliation faced by peasants in the Middle Ages? Honestly, even the name William Wallace would mean nothing to me without it.
Take me, for example; I was aware. 😁 . P.S. Check my signature. 😉
What movies have taught me. If someone coughs once, they’re clearly terminal. People always seem to have the exact change ready when paying for an Uber, or they're just incredibly generous. Everything else you guys already covered. If I can think of anything else... Oh, and women apparently have sex in bras, while cars—after falling 50 feet, slamming into dozens of walls, and taking hundreds of bullets—are somehow still perfectly drivable. Boxers, especially the pros, don't seem to know what a guard is. A guard? What even is that? It's a joke. They'll just take fifteen hits to the face in a row, and then I'll hit them with twenty-five straight shots to the jaw for twelve rounds. In Star Trek, everyone seems stuck in the 20th century. I wonder why nobody ever talks about the 22nd.😕
*We Were Soldiers* is a decent enough film. However, *UN* is five times more intense in terms of US propaganda. The main difference is that the enemies aren't portrayed as actual "people" like they are in *Soldier*; instead, they’re just mindless targets waiting to be shot. Honestly, they’re all US propaganda. And you know why? It’s common knowledge that any movie involving the US military has to submit its script for review by the Pentagon first—it's been the same process for thirty years—to ensure everything is politically correct. If it doesn't pass, they won't provide any support or technical advice. That’s actually why *Apocalypse Now* was filmed in the Philippines; they had all the US military gear needed and were willing to rent it out.
They really ought to stop making remakes and just re-film LOTR from scratch. Poor J.R.R. Tolkien was surely turning in his grave because of what those idiots like Jackson did to his work. I can almost feel him restless in his final resting place.
Hmm, I think I’d want to direct a remake of Ben Hur.😁 In all seriousness, though—I’m not sure how many of you have seen it, but if I may be so bold as to mention the director, "the story of Bugsy Siegel" is a classic. It’s a mafia film set back in the 1930s, and honestly, that’s the kind of project I’d love to tackle for a remake.
To be fair, my real passion would be adapting specific books. For instance, Battlefield—I don't know if you've seen that one, but if you haven't, you really should; you don't often come across something quite that absurd. Or even the Sword of Pleasure, the Peter Green book about the Suliman man who signaled the end of the Roman Republic. Imagine what a brutal historical epic that could be. If only I had the funding and the filmmaking skills.😁