Posts by silentpilot6

"I find your Lack of Faith Disturbing."

northernfalcon9, you need some serious rest. Maybe a few days off would do you some good.

We could keep debating this for another three months, only to end up exactly where the forum's Emperor says we will.
Getting our own sub-forum is the priority; figuring out who moderates it is a much smaller issue.

Dammit.
I forgot that The Force doesn't work on every single species.
I'm still trying to figure out what you are, though. Are you some relative of Jabba, or just one of those winged creatures you'd find in a thrift store?😉 😁

Alright. We have a few options here.
1. You can take my hand.......
2. We can settle this with lightsabers.
3. I can call in my Stormtroopers. I'll call the kids. DECOOOOOOO!
4. None of the above; instead, the fate of this new subforum will be decided by a contest: who can drink the most hot sauce.
silentpilot6 🙂 and the rest of you.

It would be a mess if everyone wanted to be a moderator.
A Darth Vader?

Don't make me resort to using my Jedi methods on you all.

The Force is with you, young rapidmoose5, but you are not a Jedi yet.

And if there is no other way:
You don't want to be the moderators of this group.
We don't want to be the moderators of this group. 😁

And that is exactly why I am being such a hardliner.

I would like to use this thread to lobby the administration for the creation of a dedicated Star Wars subforum.

Why? Some might argue that giving every film franchise its own subforum is overkill.
But we are talking about just five movies. Or really, three core films (if you want to be a purist 😁), plus a few extra installments thrown in.
While the movies are the foundation, they truly represent only about 5% of the Star Wars universe. In fact, they barely scratch the surface of the galaxy.

Take a book like Tales from the Mos Eisley. It explores that wild cantina from the first film—or the fourth, depending on how you look at it.
Every single character from that massive crowd, even those who appeared for only a second on screen with no impact on the main plot, gets at least twenty pages of backstory in that book.
And that is just one title; there are surely fifty or more out there.
Books cover a much wider spectrum of events, characters, and a far greater timeline (spanning several decades) than the movies alone.

Furthermore, there are plenty of Star Wars fans right here on this forum. To be honest, there are probably no more than a few dozen of us here, but isn't that enough to justify a new subforum? Personally, I know at least ten people in my real-life social circle who are huge fans.
Mind you, I am not some hardcore fanatic hanging out with fan clubs—though I know such groups exist here in the US.

Besides, as far as I know, no other forum does this. I have been browsing the IMF for over a year and a half now, and I haven't seen anything like it. Don't you think this would attract new members? Isn't everyone welcome here?
Would a new subforum really clog up the server?

That is all for now.
Now, for a few quotes.

Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try. Master Yoda

Master Yoda Many of the truths we cling depend greatly on our own point of view 😉 😁 Obi-Wan

And finally, to sweeten the deal:
Vader: What is Thy biding, my Master?
Emperor: There is a great disturbance in the Force.
Vader: I have felt it
Emperor: We have a new enemy. Luke Skywalker Vader
Vader: Yes, my Master
Master Emperor: He could destroy us.
Vader: He's just a boy. Obi-Wan can no longer help him
Emperor: The Force is strong with him. The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi.
Vader: If he could be turned, he would be a powerful ally.
Emperor: Yes.....yes. He would be a great asset. Can it be done?
Vader: He will join us, or die, Master 😈

Master, I have been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master.

Carpenter 😁 sorry.
Look—it could be a tribute to someone or something, but let’s be real: this movie is absolute garbage. Isn't it? Is there actually anyone out there who genuinely enjoys this? Let’s just forget about those weird dedications. And here is the big question: maybe we're just projecting what we want to see onto it, because it clearly wasn't even on his mind when he made it.

Listen, I don't particularly care for LOTR because of the points Eric Jackson43 mentioned, though I'll admit the pacing could have been handled better. But I won't get sidetracked by that now.

Let me put it this way: if I had never read the books, I would have thought the movie was freaking amazing. But after reading them and seeing how much better the whole thing could have been executed, well... damn. 👎

Alright. It seems we've landed on two possible conclusions.
Either they simply don't care about anything other than making a quick buck, or they genuinely don't realize they've made a terrible film.
I know everyone has their own opinion, 😁, but take Battlefield Earth for example. John Travolta is pushing to film a sequel to that absolute catastrophe. He obviously has no idea what a 🤮 he actually made, which is honestly pathetic.

Sandra Moore said:Just like anything else in this world, a movie can be good, bad, or just plain terrible. It can even be a masterpiece, of course. There are countless reasons why—but I honestly don't see what the question is here.

In other words, even if you ask, we always end up circling back to that intangible sense of magic in art; sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't...

If we're going to use movies as our benchmark—and let's be honest, at least 95% of films don't even deserve to be in that conversation—then let me draw a comparison.

I personally know a few painters, and it isn't uncommon for them to create something, realize they aren't happy with it, and simply toss it out or completely redo it.

However, you can't simply draw a parallel between painting a picture and making a film, given that one requires significantly less money and time than the other.

The question is actually quite simple. If, for example, 99% of the audience and 99% of the critics can clearly see that a movie is garbage, how is it possible that the director or the screenwriter doesn't see it too, or simply doesn't care? That is the real question.

Fair enough. Maybe my example was a bit silly, but even George Lucas admitted he wasn't happy with the film. It makes me wonder how he didn't realize things were going off the rails during production. But, it is what it is. I can relate to this on a personal level; if I finish a project and find myself unhappy with it just a month later, wouldn't I feel that same dissatisfaction while I'm actually working on it?

Second example. Take a seasoned pro like James Cameron. I'm not sure if you've ever seen his Ghost of Mars 🤮 🙂
If he didn't realize he was filming such total nonsense while on set, someone should honestly, I don't know, hit him with a Major League Baseball bat 😬

That, for instance, is the kind of movie where even I think I'd realize something was wrong just by reading the script.

Either they know and just don't care, or they truly don't realize what they're doing.

To me, it's perfectly clear that a movie is essentially a product designed to be sold, regardless of its actual quality.
Fine. I'll give you that.

However, there is one thing I can't wrap my head around. Aside from complete novices in the industry, when an established director—or even seasoned professionals like screenwriters—set out to make a film that ends up being a total disaster, do they actually realize while they're working on it that the result is going to be such a mess? And if they do realize it, why on earth would they proceed that way?

Or perhaps they simply don't recognize that they're producing garbage?
Or maybe they just don't care because they're only in it for the paycheck? That feels like the most likely truth to me.

A prime example comes to mind: George Lucas with The Phantom Menace, and honestly, the Clones wasn't much better either.
He poured so many years and so much effort into creating these Star Wars sequels, only to deliver a total catastrophe. He even admitted after the release that he wasn't satisfied with the first one. 😵

How is it possible that he didn't see the flaws while the script was still being written? He clearly has the money and the time, so he shouldn't have to answer to producers the way many others do—which, unfortunately, is often why we end up with bad movies.

Anyway, I'm curious to see what someone more knowledgeable about cinema than a mere layman like myself thinks about all this.

It’s true that Keanu Reeves might not be considered a top-tier actor, but he is certainly a better Neo than Will Smith ever could have been—and I mean that sincerely, that guy wouldn't have pulled it off. Apparently, the producers made his casting contingent on him playing Mr. Anderson, but The Wachowskis turned it down.
I also heard that Jean Renno was originally considered for the role of Agent Smith, but he passed because of other projects.
It’s probably for the best that he did. 👍

Justin Patel said:By the way, Monica’s dress was killer. Honestly, it might have been even better if she were naked, but it served its purpose.

👍
And that’s pretty much all that worked in the movie.

It feels stretched thin. As for the pacing? What even is that?
There were certain parts where the sheer sentimentality actually made me nauseous.
The dialogue feels like some teenager trying to act philosophical after three beers and two Jointa-ako, if not worse.

The action? It was underwhelming. Nothing interesting or particularly well-shot about it, and I feel the same way about that battle scene with the guards.
All things considered, I don't even want to waste more words on such a complete waste of time.
Deeply, deeply disappointed. 👎
On a scale of 1 to 10, if the first one was a 9 and the second was a 5, this one is a solid 1.

You know things are truly gone wrong when even Agent Smith fails us. 👎

Give this a click if you're interested

http://www.eightlinks.com/archives/000839.html

I found a special 15 MB version of the trailer; the standard one is only 8 MB.

This movie was a tedious, exhausting, and painfully slow disaster.

The lack of logic is staggering. 🤮 For instance, how is it possible that those idiots left behind in New York City couldn't find a single firearm anywhere? Instead, they're stuck fighting off the infected with nothing but baseball bats and machetes. 😕

I honestly can't be bothered to waste any more energy on such nonsense.

The concept itself is solid, but the execution is just terrible.

1. Conan
2. Apocalypse Now Redux
3. Excalibur
4. Fields of Glory
5. The Matrix
6. Taxi Driver

There are plenty more, but I’m keeping those to myself.😠

I can't even begin to count how many films have gone missing—it's infuriating.
Just to mention a few that vanished into thin air: Mad Max 2, The Big Wave, Rollerball, Empire Strikes Back, and even North American Spy...🙂

Apocalypse Now Redux

silentharbor88 said:"Event Horizon" is probably the worst one for me. At least among the ones I've seen. It was advertised as Sci-Fi, which is why I went to see it, but it turned out to be a horror movie, and a bad one at that. Just awful!

Event Horizon😉 — I actually thought it was quite good. The movie is a total trip, if you know what I mean😁.
It isn't pure Sci-Fi, more like horror, but that doesn't mean it lacks quality. You've reminded me—I think I'll go rewatch it today.👍

There are plenty of contenders for the "worst ever" title, like Star Wars 1 and 2 or even that last Star Trek: Nemesis👎 , but they all pale in comparison to Battlefield Earth🙂. It's unbelievable how such a piece of trash can be made from such an excellent book.

Does anyone know where I can pick up her copies of Triumph of the Will and Olympia?

I would really love to see them.

ironbadger31 said:The logic here is actually quite straightforward.
In about 95% of cases, if you've read the book and then watched the movie, you’ll feel like it missed the mark, whether it's the vibe or the overall atmosphere.
You can't really break it down by specific scenes—whether they were cut from the film or added in—because it's deeper than that.
The movie works perfectly fine if you're just an empty sponge who doesn't care for fantasy and finds no joy in it.
Objectively, everyone will enjoy the visual effects, the graphics, the scenery, and the dialogue; the acting might be hit-or-miss, but overall, it'll be a decent enough flick.
But, if you happen to run into a Lord of the Rings fanatic like silentpilot6 or myself, the critique looks more like this:
That hack Peter Jackson should honestly just bury himself up to his ears for several reasons:
1. Frodo is a complete failure of a character; Elijah Wood only knows how to act pathetic, and people praise him like he's some kind of genius... give me a break. Any idiot could play that role, and besides, he admitted he only read the book for the sake of the movie, so 👎
2. Aragorn is also terrible; Viggo Mortensen is nothing more than some scruffy bohemian living in a trailer, pretending to be some legendary workaholic. I have zero respect for his portrayal, especially since the source material demands someone truly imposing.
3. I absolutely cannot get past the Ents and how they were depicted...
In the book, there are only a few of them—maybe ten at most—but the movie turns them into a massive army of 500,000 manic destroyers.👎
4. There is plenty more, but generally speaking, the film lacks any sense of atmosphere, rather than just failing to translate it.
The book's atmosphere is phenomenal; the movie has none.
And don't even get me started on that ridiculous version of Galadriel and the effeminate Legolas. 🙄

Exactly, man.🙏
I could add plenty of other things to your list, but you've already highlighted the main points I resent the most.
I'll just mention that ridiculous scene where Frodo tries to hand the ring to the Black Rider; the Nazgûl starts to reach for it, and then suddenly a bunch of guys with arrows jump out and chase him off. It's unbelievable.

It would be a bit like me being fully geared up and ready to go, only for a three-year-old with a toothpick to stop me from enjoying a cold beer that was practically asking for it.😁

"Minimal changes," I wouldn't say. Honestly, I just don't want to waste any more of my time on this cinematic trash.
The second installment definitely leaves you feeling frustrated, and as for the third—I'm genuinely worried about what they might come up with next.

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