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Betty Harris15 said:Well... I eat junk because I have a massive sweet tooth and giving it up is too hard. Chocolate, cookies, ice cream, burgers, pizza... do I really need to keep listing them?
silentpilot6 said:🤣 😂
I think you're missing the mark here... my dad always says (and if anyone truly understands the situation, it’s probably him 😁) that people have started doing just about anything these days—whether it's necessary or not—including seeking out psychiatrists. I mean, I get it, doctors find it perfectly fine 😉, but we are clearly trending toward those overly sensitive 😁 Americans who seem to have a therapist for everything, often just because they need someone to talk to...
nimbleviper142 said:What the hell is that supposed to mean? Look, I'm just throwing out suggestions and ideas, trying to be helpful... maybe it never crossed your mind to actually go ask around, which might actually help. Why do I even bother? 🙄
@redharbor9: I mean, it's not like they're gonna drag the kid to the first alternative practitioner they stumble upon. Sure, things might be desperate, but anyone with half a brain is going to do some research first. Though, most people don't really buy into that hypnosis stuff, so I doubt the OP is even considering it. Honestly, there's no point in arguing at this point.
hiddenhound3 said:To clarify the situation, he consulted with a highly experienced child psychologist in Boston. He underwent approximately ten sessions, which even incorporated the use of laxatives, yet nothing yielded any significant results. Ultimately, the specialist herself admitted her limitations in this specific case, suggesting that they simply have to wait until puberty begins.
However, I am certain that this is by no means an isolated incident.
Keith Jones76 said:I was thinking about how men tend to have more prominent brow ridges, stronger jaw muscles, and more squared-off jawlines. Even the angle between the nose and the forehead, or the shape of the upper lip, tends to differ—not to mention facial hair, which isn't a negligible factor. (I recall a study suggesting that men with these more pronounced masculine traits were more frequently found in leadership roles and saw faster advancement, like moving up the ranks in the US Army. One theory was that this plays into how men perceive dominance among themselves. It might not be directly linked to our topic, but it shows these features carry weight.)
0>> 0>>As for beards, just because a specific experiment didn't find a link doesn't mean women aren't looking for them. In fact, a beard might actually be one of those evolutionary drivers that conditioned women to be more sensitive to detecting these specific physical characteristics.
0>> 0>>Maybe it’s getting complicated. Think of it this way: throughout human history, there was far more hunger than plenty. Because of that, we evolved to favor satiety over enduring starvation (which explains why everyone struggles with dieting). Even now, when food scarcity isn't an actual threat, that instinct to seek out heavy, sugary, calorie-dense foods remains—even if it leads to obesity.
0>> 0>>In the same vein, women likely still read these cues from faces. Even if the amount of vital information we need to process has decreased, the conditioning remains. We've only had culture for a relatively tiny sliver of our evolutionary timeline—maybe 70,000 years—which might have influenced things slightly, but the biological groundwork is deep.
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0>> 0>>It would be interesting to see if those same differences show up in children's faces.
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| It would be cool to see if these same differences show up on kids' faces. |
Sandra Parker3 said:You're missing the point
I know exactly what "people" implies, but you're still only talking about women
I don't get why this isn't clicking for you 🤷
If women recognize male faces faster than men do, fine, that's settled
But what about the guys? Or put another way, how do they handle recognizing female faces? For crying out loud, am I the only one seeing this???
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Keith Jones76 said:I’m curious if there's any measurable difference in facial recognition speeds between genders—does the data actually hold up? I'd also be interested to know if sexual orientation plays a role in how quickly people process faces.
My guess? Men tend to display secondary sexual characteristics more prominently through their facial structure; a man going through puberty undergoes much more dramatic shifts in his features than a woman does. When men look at women, they're likely focusing on entirely different critical cues. And let's not forget a factor we often overlook: historically, men have relied heavily on facial hair as a clear signal of being a sexually mature adult ready for partnership and offspring.
The issue with evolutionary psychology is that it's notoriously difficult to prove through controlled experiments. You hear the exact same criticisms leveled against Freud. That’s just the nature of these fields. Plenty of people find these theories intuitive, but we lack the rigorous methodology required to make them scientifically airtight. That doesn't mean the theories aren't valid, though.
Just a guess... Men show secondary sex characteristics in their faces way more. A man hitting maturity sees much bigger shifts in his facial features than a woman does.
Sandra Parker3 said:Is it really that hard to say if this same "study" was done on men and what their results were, especially since you mentioned "people..." earlier?
I mean, what happened with the male data? Or do you honestly think those results don't matter when explaining the first part? If so, you're leaving me totally confused here...
cosmictinker21 said:I honestly have no idea where this comes from—some academic paper, a study, whatever—that supposedly yielded results along those lines. What was the actual theory? What were they even trying to prove with that experiment...
By default, females are just more sensitive to external stimuli. It’s everything: sight, sound, movement, touch, smell. They learned to react faster, more meaningfully, in a multidisciplinary way, which presumably led to the development of certain neural commissural fibers, associative regions, and allegedly even the entire corpus callosum, not to mention specific centers and interneurons. It happened simply because they had to multitask constantly—keeping an eye on the offspring, communicating with them, teaching them, gathering berries or worms, guarding the stash, watching out for themselves, and making sure some predator didn't wander in to attack both them and the kids. All while waiting for their mate to bring back more food. And that same mate hunted in a pack, with backup, where his sole job was to focus on the prey and throw the spear. Then he'd proudly butcher it right there, have a big meal with the squad, and head home...
As for that whole thing about men having better spatial orientation, you might as well hang a cat by its tail. In all the groups of guys I've ridden with in a car to semi-familiar areas (excluding taxi drivers, Greyhound bus drivers, or locals), barely a handful of them could navigate a place they'd only visited once.
And regarding the recognition of male faces, that's really just down to the fact that men typically have more pronounced contours, darker shadows, stronger eyebrows. It's basic visual perception. Plus, once that recognition kicks in and the realization follows that it's the opposite sex—*ecce homo*—the finger points immediately: male.
And as for men having better spatial orientation, you can just hang a cat by its tail. In groups of guys I've driven around through areas they barely knew (excluding taxi drivers, bus drivers, or locals), hardly any of them could navigate a spot they'd only been to once.
As for recognizing male faces, it's simply because men usually have more pronounced contours, darker shadows, and stronger eyebrows. It's just basic visual observation. And once you recognize the face, the realization hits that it's the opposite sex—ecce homo—and your finger immediately points: male.
Gary James88 said:Did you tell those "skeptics" that maybe we're just seeing the future Leda Cosmides predicted when she said: "In the future, evolutionary psychology will simply be called—psychology..." 😛