Posts by Peter Stewart6

hollowtrucker77 said:So, I guess?
Which part of this is actually difficult to wrap your head around??
Back in the day, before we moved away from animal sacrifices, people would drink the blood and eat the meat of the creature being offered up (which, let's hope, was just an animal)
The whole idea was that through the act of sacrifice, that flesh and blood became sanctified, bringing a divine blessing to whoever consumed it
🙂
Jesus essentially abolished that practice by shifting the entire concept to a spiritual level through wine and the host—acting as a ritual to receive blessings through consecration, which we now refer to as his body and blood

And now, just because someone decided to ask a question, what are we supposed to do??
Ban rowdyhawk10? Outlaw Islam on the forum? Ban everything except Christianity??...

Or, we could try something else that actually seems useful: we could clean up the religion subreddits by removing anyone who isn't capable of civilized communication, regardless of what denomination they follow, and leave actual space for people who are genuinely interested in interfaith dialogue and actually want to learn something from "the other side"

Jesus ended that sacrifice and moved it to a spiritual level in the form of wine and the host, as a way to receive blessing through sanctification—which today we call His blood and His body.

So now, just because someone asked a question, what exactly should be done??
Ban rowdyhawk10? Ban Islam on the forum? Ban everything except Christianity??

rowdyhawk10 said:Can I answer this as a Christian, but in a way that he can understand that this isn't about a real conversion, And then, once the topic develops a bit, I'll send this link to that acquaintance so they can see what you all are saying and hopefully change their views? I don't know any other way to steer them away, and I can see they are mistaken. It would mean a lot to me, so please, weigh in.

Or, we could try something else. Something that actually feels useful. We could just clean up the religion PDF by removing everyone who can't communicate like a civilized human being—doesn't matter what denomination they follow. That way, we leave actual space for people who genuinely want to engage in interfaith dialogue and have a real desire to learn from the "other side."

Jeremy Young19 said:

hollowtrucker77 The user states:
And they say moderators don't actually grasp the nuances of what they're overseeing.

I won't name names here, but I'll tell you this: most of these moderators don't even grasp the basic tenets of religious doctrine, let alone understand the nuances of religion itself.

A moderator’s role isn't to act as a thought police or dictate exactly how people should frame their perspectives; rather, it is to step in when content crosses the line into being genuinely inappropriate.
The notion that one can simply spout whatever nonsense crosses their mind—hurling insults and baseless claims only to retreat behind the shield of "God told me so"—is nothing more than the flawed logic of someone who is fundamentally bad at mental math.

A moderator really ought to possess a fundamental grasp of the subject matter they are overseeing if they intend to distinguish actual discourse from mere mindless rambling. When I find myself wading through endless theological disputes regarding Islam, I am often left completely lost; I have no clue what the core arguments even are, let alone how to tell whether a user is engaging in genuine debate or simply shouting nonsense to provoke a reaction.

When it comes to insults, people generally spot them when they're laid bare, but if someone manages to mask an affront behind a veneer of trivialities, it goes completely unnoticed—mostly because people simply lack the perception to see through the act.

When you look at the discussions regarding atheism over on the Religion subreddit, it becomes quite apparent that atheists lack any sort of centralized organization to bring them under one cohesive roof, much like the way a church functions. Because there is no unifying body, the understanding of atheism is almost entirely left to the discretion of the individual. Consequently, having an "atheist moderator" in that space feels somewhat redundant; such a person can really only speak for themselves and offer their own specific perspective on how things should be handled.

hollowtrucker77 said:Roger Barrett2, have you finally realized that you're the only one left who thinks Twitter actually messed this up?
And regarding what the moderators are doing... well, they're moderating.
They’re just doing their jobs by keeping the subforum readable and preventing a flood of nonsense from people who desperately want to be seen as religious, pious, or deeply spiritual.
Look, you don't need to belong to some specific, recognized religious denomination to recognize when someone is being outright insulting or intentionally trying to start a fight.
A moderator's actual job is to remain objective, not to take sides or try to "understand" where one particular group is coming from.

And what's the answer to what the moderators are actually doing? They're moderating.
They moderate the subforum and keep it in decent shape. It’s just one of those things—entries that don't actually serve anyone, especially those people who like to act all pious and pretend they're deeply spiritual or full of faith.
To spot someone who’s just looking to stir the pot and start an argument. You don't actually have to belong to any officially recognized religion.

rowdyhawk10 said:There’s really no need to get hysterical here. I’d appreciate it if you wouldn't throw accusations my way without any actual proof. This is an open forum, so there's no reason to start making up new rules on the fly. I was simply asking a sincere question about whether we were talking about actual blood, and you responded by saying it was indeed real blood. Look, I was just trying to be polite and ask if you actually drink it. That’s all. I only asked because, from what I understand, the host is placed in the mouth. But honestly, I have no clue if you’re supposed to swallow it or just hold it in your mouth and spit it out later. I've never done it myself—being Muslim, as you guys know—so I genuinely didn't know if it was swallowed or not. That’s why I asked. Look, if my questions bother you, then feel free to just ignore them. I’m not trying to throw accusations around or be insulting.

rowdyhawk10 said:Alright, thanks; you made that pretty clear. So, basically, you guys... to... you guys drinking? 🙂

rowdyhawk10 said:People can ask pretty much anything about the Islamic faith on this forum. That’s what this place is for, after all. But since you're claiming you aren't actually interested in learning, it tells me you didn't come here to contribute to any meaningful interfaith dialogue. You just showed up to bash "your own" side while hypocritically hiding behind the very concept of dialogue that you're actually undermining. Your sudden sense of outrage is honestly hard to wrap my head around. It’s especially jarring considering you were just saying on here not that long ago that we should push for bans on mosques all across Europe, extending far beyond Switzerland. You even used that incredibly sarcastic little phrase about "cultivating" them. If your memory is failing you, feel free to go back and read your own posts in that thread about the mosque bans in Switzerland. Honestly, that level of irony tells me everything I need to know. It feels like this "precious blood" you keep talking about doesn't actually mean much to you, because otherwise, you wouldn't be using that kind of sarcasm during a time when so many Muslims—including some of our own people right here on this forum—were feeling genuinely insulted by those bans in Switzerland.

hollowtrucker77 said:A moderator’s job is to stay objective. They shouldn't be taking sides or trying to "understand" one person over another.

rowdyhawk10 said:Can we Christians answer this, but in a way that helps him realize this isn't actually a Pretense, and then, once the discussion develops a bit, I can send my acquaintance a link to this thread so he can see your points and hopefully change his mind? I don't know how else to steer him away from his mistakes. It would really help me out, so please, jump in.

bluehawk37 said:Long time no see! 😁
It’s perfectly normal for a patient to show up worried about their health. I'm a doctor, and I worry when I have a common cold too. But when a patient has a slight fever and a runny nose—someone who deals with allergies every year—and then claims they were browsing the web and saw a disease that occurs once in 500,000 people and demands testing, I lose my patience. Encouragement is always part of the job; I've never denied that. I care and I pray for my patients because that is the code. But sometimes, working with people is genuinely difficult.

Ideally, it should follow the principles held by the Red Order of Malta. 🥳
The emphasis is on everything, but "humanity first." That is the title and core message of the beautiful book by
Prof. Ivan Golub. I recommend it highly. 🙂

From a spiritual standpoint, that is correct, and I have never disagreed. I still adhere to those values and deeply respect Mr. Golub. 😁😁 Because of this, I have approached healthcare as both care and service.

"People are scum"??? And you say that "simply," *einfach so*??? 😲
You claim you'd "love to see some patients in the role of the doctor," especially
"when you haven't left the hospital in two days," etc. Now try looking at it from the other side.
It’s from their perspective—the patients. How many days do they spend stuck in those hospital beds? And what kind of chaos are they actually dealing with
inside that facility? Try looking at things through eyes clouded by the fear of the unknown.
For most people, medicine is a complete mystery. 🙂

The people lying in hospital beds aren't all the same. One forum user already categorized doctors, so I’ll categorize the patients. You have the critically ill who stay long-term, the occasional patients, and then you have the hypochondriacs. The vast majority fall into that last group. They are rude, arrogant, and frankly, unpleasant. A person who is genuinely sick and worried isn't looking for an insult, that's a fact. When someone is truly scared, their demeanor changes; they are much easier to deal with. But those who show up just to invent illnesses are unbearable. The other day in a waiting room, an elderly woman told me she wanted an AIDS test because she thought her symptoms matched it, though she didn't even understand what AIDS was. But she asked for it. And who am I to deny her? It's senseless and a waste of time... but there it is.

From a spiritual standpoint, that’s absolutely true, and I’ve never denied it. I still hold onto those beliefs, and I have a lot of respect for Professor Golub. Because of that, I've started looking at healthcare more through the lens of care and service.

People in hospitals—whether they’re staying long-term or just passing through—are all cut from different cloth. One of the guys on this forum tried to categorize doctors, so I figured I’d take a crack at categorizing patients instead. You’ve got your critically ill patients who actually need to be there, you’ve got the occasional visitors, and then you have the hypochondriacs. Honestly? Most of them fall into that last group. They can be incredibly rude, arrogant, and just plain unpleasant to deal with. I'll put my money on this: when you're actually sick and genuinely worried about your health, you don't really have the energy to go around being insulting. When things get heavy, you see people differently. It’s easy enough to deal with folks who are actually going through it—you can talk to them, connect with them. But those people who just show up and start making up illnesses? They’re honestly unbearable. The other day, my grandmother was sitting in the waiting room and told me she wanted an AIDS test. She said she’d noticed some symptoms that seemed to match up, but she doesn't really understand what AIDS actually is. Still, she wants the test. And honestly, who am I to tell her no? It feels completely pointless and useless... but there it is.

bluehawk37 said:I need to add my two cents to this.
I didn't spend ten years in medical school and specialized training just to be bullied by patients. You need some level of empathy—it’s non-negotiable—but I expect my patients to show a basic level of decency and composure in return. When someone storms into my clinic, pounding on the door despite the "do not knock" sign, then barges into the exam room screaming about why they received one less box of medication, frankly, I’d rather send them straight to hell. But I stay quiet. A doctor treats the disease; we diagnose, we provide treatment, and we aim to help. The focus is on the pathology, not the person. If I let myself get emotionally attached to every patient who walks through that door, I’d have retired within three years. I diagnose, I assist, I treat. If the outcome isn't what we hoped for, there is nothing more I can do. I gave it my all. The nurse is there for the patient; the doctor is there for the illness and the cure.
It’s honestly refreshing when patients show up at the ER feeling fine, sunburnt in 105-degree heat, demanding I check their blood pressure just because they can. They see the doctor across the street has a shorter line and suddenly I'm the problem. It’s called an Emergency Room for a reason. When you deal with uninformed, rude people who exhaust you with sheer stupidity and then have the nerve to get insulting, you just want to sit down and cry. Spare me the "why didn't you finish college" lectures. People are just jerks. They're disrespectful and think they're geniuses. I'd love to see one of these patients try stepping into a doctor's shoes. When you haven't left the hospital in two days, seeing 130 people pass through those doors daily, eating poorly, skipping sleep, and working without proper equipment, it's a total disaster.

When a patient storms into the clinic, pounding on the doors, ignoring the "please do not knock" signs, barging into the office, and yelling about this or that, or why they received a smaller box of medication... I'd love to just tell them where to go, but I keep it professional. A doctor treats the disease and tries to diagnose what the patient is dealing with to provide treatment and help. The focus is on the pathology, not the person.

If I got emotionally attached to every single patient who walked through my door, I'd be retired within three years. I diagnose, I help, I provide treatment; if they don't pull through or if I can't help them, there's nothing more I can do. I gave it my all. Nurses are there for the patient, while doctors are there for the disease and the therapy.
It especially gets to me when patients show up at the ER because they aren't feeling well—looking pale and exhausted even though it's 100 degrees outside—and they demand I check their blood pressure. Meanwhile, there's another doctor right across the hall, so I have to wonder why they're bothering me. The waiting room is packed. The Emergency Room is called "Emergency" for a reason! When a patient is uninformed, rude, drives you crazy with nonsense, and then starts insulting you, honestly, sometimes you just want to sit down and cry. Forget all that talk about why you went to med school...People can just be scum... Honestly. They're rude and think they know everything better than you. I really wish I could see what it’s like for a patient to step into a doctor's shoes for once. When you haven't left the hospital in two days, you've got 130 people cycling through those doors every single day. You're drinking whatever, eating terrible food, barely sleeping, and dealing with zero equipment... It's a total disaster.

rowdyhawk10 said:William Green4
Just because this forum is titled Religion doesn't mean it's exclusive to religious people.
Atheism is also a specific stance regarding the existence or non-existence of God, morality, and so on.
It includes moral critiques concerning the conduct of churches and religious individuals in general.
If we segregate atheism, this subforum would essentially just turn into an "Hallelujah" board. Best regards,

Atheism is also its own kind of stance. Existence versus non-existence. Or maybe just... being. It’s one of those heavy things that hits you when everything else goes quiet. I can't quite wrap my head around it. Is there actually a point to all this, or are we just drifting? Sometimes it feels like we're building something meaningful, and other times it feels like nothing matters at all. Just thinking out loud. Not sure if anyone else spends their time spiraling into these kinds of thoughts. God, morality, and all that stuff...
Atheism involves... I’ve been thinking a lot about this lately. It feels like there's a growing gap between what people claim to believe and how they actually act. Sometimes, looking at certain religious institutions or even just folks who call themselves devout, it's hard not to feel a sense of disappointment. There's a real lack of accountability. You see these massive organizations preaching one thing while their actions suggest something entirely different. It’s frustrating. Honestly, I struggle with it. It makes me wonder if the core values are being lost in favor of power or image. I don't mean to sound cynical, but it's hard to ignore when the behavior doesn't line up with the message. Just some heavy thoughts on my part.

If we started segregating atheists, this whole religion sub would just turn into one big, endless hallelujah fest. Best regards.

rowdyhawk10 said:Would you... Dear fellow Redditor. Did she actually bother to let us read the discussion or provide a link?
Like, as proof of what I just said? The part I quoted?

If you wouldn't mind helping me out with a link for this too... So we can find out. Which post are we talking about?

I’m asking this because... The Terms of Service on Reddit. Standing by.
When you're filing an appeal, you really need to make sure your posts are written in a way that's respectful and actually backed up by solid arguments.

feralpilot0 said:Why do people go back and edit their posts after they've already been published?I mean, what was actually the point of editing this post? There wasn't even a note left behind, nothing at all... no explanation about what specific content supposedly needed to be taken out. 😕

I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit lately. It feels like we’re all just circling the same drain, trying to make sense of things that don't really add up. I know I'm probably overthinking it—maybe even a little too much—but there's something about how everyone reacts to these shifts in policy that feels off. It’s like we're all following some unwritten rule instead of actually looking at the facts. I saw what shadowtrucker was saying earlier, and honestly, part of me agrees. It’s easy to get caught up in the noise on Reddit, but if you actually sit back and look at the data from the Pew Research Center, the reality is much more complicated than the arguments we see online. We tend to jump to conclusions way too fast. Anyway, I don't mean to sound like a buzzkill. I just feel like we need to be a bit more careful with how we judge these situations. It's easy to be loud, but it's harder to be right.

There's a private message system, and there are bans if you break the Terms of Service, so what exactly is this supposed to be?

Justin Peterson13 said:I’m seeing some real progress here. It feels like management is finally stepping up to deal with the people actually ruining the community—those rude, dishonest trolls.
Also, I really appreciate how ZgSash handles the ban corner and user appeals. They actually try to address complaints with logic and facts instead of just shutting down threads and handing out bans blindly. It shows they aren't afraid of their own decisions and actually stand by them. 👍 Plus, those users who scream the loudest in the appeal section usually can't admit when they're wrong—they'll lie right to your face—but at least it doesn't feel like someone is being kicked off the site for no reason. They're being met with solid arguments instead. 🙂
There's still work to be done, but we're heading in the right direction. 👍

William Green4 said:ZgSash definitely needs to stay on as an admin, because for once, someone is actually putting in the work... and doing a great job at it.
Both ZgSash and Tyndall have brought much-needed order back to the forum and the moderation team.
Kudos to the new leadership!
Amen!

Susan Price30 said:Listen girls, don't even stress about it. Because if that idiot isn't properly disciplined, every Christian active in the religion subforum is going on an indefinite hiatus. The admins have been notified of our intentions.

Well then they can just shove that whole PDF up their... you know; and enjoy their missionary work—except there won't be anyone left to preach to. Wow.🙄☕

Chris Peterson53 said:You’re twisting my words just to suit your own narrative. You complain about a Muslim user's post being intolerance or hate speech, yet you express the exact same sentiment in your own post, only much worse..

PS: Please read my posts in their entirety when quoting them.

granitefox16 said:What are you people actually arguing about here? Someone calls the head of the Catholic Church a Nazi while simultaneously defending the idea of banning every religion except Islam.

And this is what passes for a debate?

How exactly are you planning to justify calling polytheists "technological excess"?

Think it sounds charming?

Steven Clark2 said:Alright, maybe you have a point regarding Tami. But personally, I really don't want to demonize him for no reason. In my view, he’ll probably apologize. He seems like a decent, polite guy, even if he did get swept up in that negative atmosphere that's been building for so long. That's why he wrote what he wrote. What he said wasn't right—that much is true—but I feel like we should give him a chance to explain himself. He actually hinted at it somewhere, or at least implied that he might have gone a bit too far.

Tami, if you’re reading this, it would be a good move to apologize to the people you offended. You should probably try to make sure it doesn't happen again, too. It just doesn't make sense, does it? Maybe some Christians are worse than you, but that doesn't give you the right to pay them back in kind.

you got exactly what you wanted, polytheists can't exist within the Islamic State and that's just how it is!!! and I'm glad—they are essentially obsolete until they accept One God—Allah!!! —until then, they can stay on this earth—just somewhere else!!!

Eric Wright29 said:Does anyone know how to sign up to go to Haiti? I'm asking because I know some doctors who want to help out, but they aren't sure about the process for sending volunteer medical teams there...

Let's all just pray to God to help the people in Haiti during this terrible destruction. The loss of life and the sheer amount of suffering right now is just overwhelming.

Brian Edwards6 said:Basically, sorry if I was bothering you in your thread, for whatever reason. You have your views, and I have mine. There’s no point in running in circles here. Just stop complaining; it's obvious nobody else cares besides me.😉

Brian Edwards6 said:And honestly, I don't even know where I attacked you or threatened you in my comment, but fine. If that's how you feel.🤷

Dennis Doyle3 said:And this is just peak:

"I hope you can tell from my posts here that I’m not some kind of nationalist, chauvinist..."

🙏

Brian Edwards78 said:LOL Morgan Rodriguez57, it's like you just joined this forum yesterday instead of being here for years. How can you not get how things work around here? 🤣

Brian Edwards6 said:Why use the singular? I guess we’re all running, right?
And yeah, that movie was great.
Exactly. It’s just as much a guarantee for us as it is for atheists.
You've got a point. Constant complaining is just so Typical for people around here.

We just can't forget that we actually have so much in common, and that by attacking "the other side," we're mostly just attacking ourselves.
Cheers.👋