Best protein powders for muscle gain?

Donna Thomas57 said:I picked up one of those little sample bags of Weider’s 4-component Protein 80 just to see what the hype was about—is that a decent move?

Honestly, Weider lost their edge a long time ago—they're basically just charging a massive premium for mid-tier protein that doesn't even break a sweat when you compare it to the good stuff. It's one of those brands where you're paying for the name on the tub rather than anything actually useful inside.

Donna Johnson16 said:I'm looking for some feedback on that protein from Walmart—the Sportness line, specifically their MuscleTech blend. It’s the 350g tub, goes for about... $17It works pretty well as a quick little supplemental snack if you’re just an amateur athlete—not like someone training for the Olympics or anything—or maybe even as a way to help out with weight loss by swapping out one of your daily meals.

So, does it actually hold up? Is it worth the hype, or am I just throwing money down the drain? If you think it’s a bust, tell me why—I’m all ears.

If you’re looking for protein, my best advice is to stick with the specialists—there are exceptions, sure, but generally speaking, price is usually a pretty good indicator of quality. You want to look for a blend that’s actually solid, something like Labrada V60. One thing I always tell people to check is the fine print on the tub. Look for "manufactured by" instead of "manufactured for." That little distinction matters—you want to prioritize companies that actually run their own research labs and hold their own patented certifications, rather than those just buying someone else's patents and slapping their logo on it. Honestly, flavor is secondary here; if you go for high-quality whey hydrolysate, expect a bit of a bitter aftertaste—that's just part of the deal. Also, do yourself a favor and look at the bulk options. The larger the container, the cheaper your cost per serving ends up being. Always run the math before you swipe your card—once you actually sit down and calculate it, you'll realize that picking up a cheap tub from Walmart isn't actually saving you all that much in the long run.

If those reasons don't hit home for you, let me give you one specific example—I was watching this investigative news segment on a new TV last year, the kind that really digs into the fine details, and they were doing a deep dive into supplement quality. They analyzed about five or six different proteins available on the market here in the States. Even though the containers were turned around so you couldn't actually see the brand names, I caught a glimpse of the Walmart protein—and yeah, it was pretty bad. According to the analysis, it was the absolute worst of the bunch, with massive discrepancies between what the label claimed and what was actually inside. Basically, there was hardly any actual protein in that powder at all. On the flip side, Labrada came out on top—their labeling was completely spot on, which is more than I can say for some of the others.

You can just drop off the sample yourself at the local CDC lab—I'm pretty sure that's where they handle those things, unless someone here knows better and wants to set me straight.

Donna Johnson16 said:I should probably mention—just as a heads-up for anyone following my progress—that I can’t really rely on egg whites as a protein source. I have a bit of an intolerance there, so that's pretty much off the table for me. 😢 What exactly did the blood work show? Honestly, I’m a little skeptical about the results—I don't know if I buy it—but then again, allergic reactions aren't really something I like to mess around with... I've ended up in the ER a few times because of them, so I tend to take these things pretty seriously.

How do you not know? I mean—are you allergic to egg whites or what?

Sam Taylor54 said:I've got a tub of Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey—the 2lb size—for... $67Honestly, if you ask me, that’s a pretty solid deal...
Honestly, looking at the ingredients from my amateur perspective—and I’m definitely no nutritionist here—it seems pretty decent. Plus, I haven't heard any bad things about this stuff, which, in my experience, is usually a good sign in itself.
The flavor is just... a little off, I guess. I went with the Chocolate Brownies, but let's be real—it’s nowhere near actual chocolate. It's drinkable enough, though—I've kind of gotten used to it by now—and honestly, if I mix some glucose in there, it actually tastes a decent amount better. 🙂

If the taste is really getting to you—and trust me, I get it, some of these things can be pretty brutal—maybe try masking it a bit. A little cinnamon, some Stevia, or even just a squeeze of lemon might help. Honey works too, or maybe some actual vanilla—and I mean the real thing, not that cheap imitation stuff in the little jars. It makes a difference.

Sam Taylor54 said:That’s a fair point—it’s definitely cheaper if you just make a quick run to somewhere like Walmart. I ended up having this delivered right to my doorstep, and once you factor in the shipping costs, the total price was actually kind of ridiculous. $67 I managed to snag a little discount once, which was nice—but honestly, I’d love to just buy everything in bulk. The only thing is, I don't exactly have a massive pile of cash sitting around to drop all at once.
Cookie flavor? If only it actually tasted like cookies. 🤣
I usually just mix mine with water since I'm trying to cut back on calories—though, honestly, mixing it with milk would probably taste a lot better. It’s not like it's undrinkable or anything, but let's not pretend it's exactly delicious either. 🙂

I think I might have missed something there—it looks like you only sent a fragment. If you were trying to get my take on something or had a specific thought in mind, just throw it my way. I'm around. $67 Just set it aside for a bit—save it up until you have enough for a decent, full cycle. If the idea of mixing it with water totally turns your stomach, just try using some skim milk instead, maybe dilute that with a little water too if it feels too thick.

Sam Taylor54 said:So, is soy actually good for you or is it total junk? Honestly, it just depends on which study you happen to stumble upon—it’s one of those things where the science feels like a moving target. If you look at the raw numbers, though, there are actually more studies out there claiming it's beneficial. Even if you just check the general encyclopedic data, the consensus seems to lean that way:

Honestly, you can easily get enough soy just by eating a normal diet—there's really no reason to go out and buy it in powder form. In my opinion, the only thing worth spending money on in powder is stuff that’s actually difficult to hit through regular meals—like whey, for example.

Sam Taylor54 said:So, about this whole "milk protein" versus "whey" thing—I’m a little lost on the terminology here. I mean, in English, "whey" specifically refers to that liquid byproduct you get when making cheese, right? But everyone seems to be using "whey" as a catch-all term for dairy protein. If we're calling it milk protein now, then what exactly are we calling the other stuff? It’s also throwing me off because whenever people talk about fitness or hitting macros, the go-to advice is always to just stick to low-fat yogurt or cottage cheese. If those are such staples, why does anyone bother with these specific milk protein powders in the first place? What's the actual downside to just sticking with the regular dairy stuff?

When we talk about dairy proteins, you’ve got whey and casein—though egg whites are worth a mention too. Absorption timing varies quite a bit: whey hits the system within an hour, egg whites take maybe 4-6 hours, and casein is a slow burn at around 7-8 hours.

The way protein is actually pulled from the source matters—you have concentrate (the budget option, usually lower bioavailability), then isolate and hydrolysate (the premium stuff, most expensive, but highest absorption rate, north of 90%). Honestly, if you're just working out for fun, concentrate is more than enough.

As for the manufacturing tech—there's cross-flow microfiltration and ion exchange. They're basically competing technologies, kind of like LCD vs. plasma TVs, or Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD, or even diesel vs. gas engines. Each has its own pros and cons, though—not that it really matters for someone training recreationally.

Dairy products like yogurt—plain yogurt, mind you, not the sugary fruit stuff—and cottage cheese are great additions to your diet.

Sam Taylor54 said:You're implying it must be bad because it's cheap, while others in this thread are claiming it isn't cheap either, or that there are better and cheaper options available—yet they can't explain why. So, what am I supposed to make of that?

Look, when you're buying protein, just remember the old saying: you get what you pay for. Buying in bulk is always cheaper per serving, and you'll figure out what works for your body after a while. If you see results from something, stick with it, regardless of what anyone else here claims is "bad."

Regarding where to find info, I'd suggest checking out some specialized fitness forums; this one isn't really designed for that level of deep diving.

@GLAVATAR - thanks for the info (most of those were actually answers to my questions anyway, rather than stuff for @Hayde 🙂)

/this whole allergy thing is super messy and honestly isn't even clearly defined by science yet, so I won't get too bogged down in the weeds since we're drifting off-topic; basically, I was thinking about food intolerance blood tests versus those standard skin prick allergy tests.

Real allergies are pretty easy to spot: you get these fast, intense reactions in your skin, mucous membranes, or airways when you hit an allergen. But food intolerances? Those are way more subtle and sneaky, playing the long game with things like eczema (you know, those rashes that pop up nowhere near where the food actually touched you), digestive issues, chronic asthma, and all that good stuff.

That's why I'm saying I'm 100% certain I'm allergic to grass pollen, cat dander, and hazelnuts, for example... but as for that egg white intolerance my test flagged—along with corn and kola nuts—I'm not totally sure. I'll probably just avoid them, though maybe not quite as strictly.

...

So, I stumbled upon this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEUHGR735Rg

Man, they actually tracked down the crew (you know, the guy wearing the Brazil jersey)

I mean, personally, I’m sticking with my Optimum Nutrition stuff. Whatever I need, I just grab from them—mostly just proteins and creatine, I guess.

@ tanveer

Look, just eat an egg—do it a few times. If you feel like garbage every single time, then yeah, you probably can't handle them. But if you don't feel sick every time, then the problem isn't the eggs, so just eat them... I mean, eggs are basically a "superfood," right?

And honestly, take those blood tests with a massive grain of salt. They’re pushing them everywhere now like it's some groundbreaking new thing, but there's barely any research behind it—it's really just a continuation of that "Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type" book theory. According to that logic, half the stuff I eat should be making me miserable, but I feel fine...
For instance, a buddy of mine took one of those tests and it told him he couldn't eat two-thirds of everything—basically all grains and most fruits and veggies. Total nonsense, if you ask me. Then they turned around and told him he could actually eat those things anyway, even though the test flagged them as "red zone" foods. Before all this, the guy was eating normally and felt perfectly healthy—never had a single issue...

@solid

I can't quite remember if that's the specific supplement, but from what I saw, it looked like a mix of MusclePharm, Labrada, Weider, DM's protein, and maybe one or two others I couldn't quite make out...

Latest research suggests that mixing whey with casein is actually the superior move for post-workout nutrition. Right now, I’m tossing 60g of dextrose, 39g of whey, and 15g of casein into my shake. Honestly? You aren't going to see a massive difference; it's all just fine-tuning at this point. At the end of the day, your diet is what carries the weight. It’s the carbs that matter most! I've been grinding in the fitness scene for four years now, though I've only really found my drive again over the last four months after taking a year-and-a-half break. Results aren't quite what they used to be, but I'm pushing through regardless. As for the whey itself—does it even matter? In this industry, you have two or three major manufacturers pumping out bulk whey, and then every other brand just slaps their own flavor on it and repackages it. If you want my take, I recommend MVP because the price is reasonable, or MyProtein if you're looking for the absolute cheapest options without sacrificing quality. Anyway, if you want actual fitness advice, sticking to the forums is your best bet. I won't start spamming links here since I'm still the new guy and haven't quite figured out how things work around here yet.

What’s the consensus on the protein brands at DM?

The price point seems reasonable enough, but does it actually deliver results??

Sarah Lee3 said:What’s the verdict on the protein powders from CVS?

The price is decent, but does it actually work??

Best one I've used yet.😉

everything you need is right here on the page. the best

My bad, I didn't catch the previous pages... honestly, those reviews weren't all that convincing anyway. 😁

Pistachio mentioned that the SLO is cheaper, but which specific protein are we talking about?

I’ve been using Pro Whey 3 g and it’s been great for me...

Anyone here actually using Multi-Phase Whey?
The label says one serving is 48g—giving you 35g of protein and 6g of carbs...
I’m a little confused though—why is the serving size almost 50g when I usually just scoop out about 30g? (Up until now, I’ve just been sticking with MVP's Pro Whey 3 g)
It’s on sale right now, so it definitely caught my eye 🤦
http://www.building-body.com/shop/mu...ag=Multi-Phase

bigger scoop = more protein. cut the scoop size down

Sarah Lee3 said:sorry, didn't catch the previous pages... reviews aren't really doing much for me either😁

Pistachio is cheaper on SLO. Where can I find it and which protein?

I've used Pro Whey 3 g and it's solid...

prosport, flexshop -- just google those two

Sarah Lee3 said:What’s the consensus on the proteins from DM?

The price seems fine, but does it actually work??

maybe try reading through a few pages of this thread before jumping in with random questions like that....

Sam Taylor54 said:Is anyone using Multi-Phase Whey?
It says the serving size is 48g—which is 35g of protein and 6g of carbs...
I’m a bit confused why the serving is nearly 50g when I usually just take a 30g scoop? (up until now I've been using MVP's Pro Whey 3 g)
It’s on sale right now, so it looks pretty tempting 🤦
http://www.building-body.com/shop/mu...ag=Multi-Phase

Looking at some older literature—nothing super recent, mind you—I came across two different takes on the maximum amount of protein you can absorb per meal. One source claims it's 50g per sitting, while another says it's closer to 30g. Apparently, that 50g figure is meant for professionals who live on strict regimens and watch every single calorie, whereas for everyone else—recreational lifters, amateurs, semi-pros—the lower number applies. Then again, the most recent info I stumbled upon suggests that modern research shows we don't really know the absolute ceiling for protein absorption per meal; it basically varies from person to person...

Personally, when I drink mine, I try not to go over 30g per serving—and I mix it with about a cup of milk, which already adds roughly 10g of protein, so I'm only pulling about 20g of protein from the powder itself.

Here’s the situation: I’m 17 years old, standing 189cm, weighing in at 74 kg. I was pretty active in sports until I hit 15, but then everything fell apart—knee injuries, shoulder issues... my tennis career went down the drain, and my muscle mass went right along with it. I’m nowhere near the physique I actually want, so I’m finally hitting the gym for the first time ever. My goal? To look decent and aesthetic by this summer. I’m planning on hitting the weights 4–5 times a week, depending on how much my high school schedule allows. Roughly looking at Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, and Sundays. I also intend to pick up some protein (likely whey) and maybe some other supplements (someone suggested glucose, but I’m open to your thoughts). Now, here are the actual questions that prompted me to write this out.
1. How should I structure my weekly split to ensure I hit every muscle group? I really want to prioritize my arms and shoulders.
2. Is it okay to stick to standard home-cooked meals? I’m looking for the best and fastest results possible. I’m thinking breakfast would be milk and whole grain toast, lunch would be soup, meat, and some greens (broccoli, spinach, etc.), and dinner should be something light. Should I cut out all junk food entirely? Even though I don't love it, I have a massive obsession with burgers and fries 😁, so that might be tough.
3. Am I allowed to drink alcohol on Saturdays if I’m still using whey? I don't mean mixing them together—I mean having my shake in the morning and then having a few drinks in the evening. Do I need to skip the whey that day, or should I just avoid alcohol altogether?
4. Realistically, how long will it take before I see visible muscle growth? I’m not trying to get shredded or anything; I just want to actually have some presence, if you know what I mean.
5. Are there any other recommendations or warnings you think are vital that I haven't mentioned yet?

I would be incredibly, deeply grateful to anyone who could provide some detailed answers to this post. Thanks in advance to everyone.

jadedrifter2 said:man, just read at least a few pages before jumping in with these kinds of random questions...

So, looking through some older literature—nothing super recent, mind you—I stumbled upon two different takes on the maximum amount of protein you should hit per meal. One source claims it’s 50g per sitting, while another says 30g. Apparently, that 50g figure is meant for the pros—you know, those elite athletes living strictly by the book—whereas for everyone else (the weekend warriors, amateurs, semi-pros), the 30g rule applies. But hey, the most current info I managed to dig up suggests that recent studies show we don't actually know the absolute ceiling for protein absorption per meal; it basically boils down to being highly individualistic...

Personally, when I'm shaking things up, I make sure not to cross that 30g threshold per serving. Since I mix mine with about a cup of milk—which already packs around 10g of protein—I aim for just 20g from the powder itself.

Now THAT is what I call useful info! Thanks a ton 👍

Has anyone ever actually bought protein whey from this user on Craigslist

The price is lower than this 2.2 kg Gold standard stuff $33 you'd find even at the cheapest Walmart.

Walter Lee9 said:So, here’s the situation—I’m 17, standing about 6'2", and weighing around 163 lbs. I used to be pretty active in sports until I hit 15, but then a series of injuries—knee, shoulder, the whole bit—basically ended my tennis career. Along with that, my muscle mass pretty much went out the window too. I’m definitely not built the way I want to be yet, so I’m finally hitting the gym for the first time ever. The goal? To look decent aesthetically by this summer. My plan is to hit the gym about 4 or 5 times a week, depending on how my high school schedule shakes out—likely Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, and Sundays. I’m also planning on picking up some protein—probably some whey—and maybe some other supplements. Someone suggested glucose, but I’m totally open to hearing what you guys think about that. Anyway, here's the actual reason I'm sitting down to write this...
So, I've been staring at my calendar trying to figure out how to actually map out a training split that hits everything without feeling like a total mess—especially since my main focus right now is really leaning towards arms and shoulders. I want to make sure I'm hitting all the muscle groups, but if I'm being honest, those two areas are definitely getting the priority treatment. Any advice on how to structure the days?
Can I stick to a "standard" home-cooked diet if I'm looking for the best—and fastest—results? Basically, I'm talking breakfast being milk and some whole grain toast, then lunch consisting of soup, meat, and whatever greens are on hand—broccoli, spinach, kale, that kind of thing. Also, do I really need to cut out every single bit of junk food? I don't even like most of it, honestly... except for cheeseburgers. Those are a total obsession. 😁 ...and then, just something light for dinner.
So, I was wondering—can I actually have a drink on Saturdays if I'm still doing my whey protein? And just to be clear, I'm not talking about mixing them together in the same shaker—that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen—but more like having my shake in the morning and then hitting the bar later that night. Do I need to skip the whey entirely on those days, or should I just cut out the alcohol altogether?
So, when can I actually expect to see some visible muscle mass? Just to be clear—I'm not trying to become a shredded bodybuilder or anything extreme. I just want to look like I actually have some substance there, you know? Like, quality mass rather than just being thin.
Any other recommendations or warnings you guys think are important that I might have missed?

I’d be seriously, incredibly grateful if someone could take a moment to give me a more detailed answer to this post of mine—really dive into the specifics. Thanks in advance to everyone.

Honestly, you probably need at least another 35 pounds of muscle if you want to actually look imposing—which, let’s face it, means you've got some catching up to do before summer hits... but hey, don't lose sleep over it. You could definitely pack on a solid 12–15 pounds of decent mass. Since you're pretty lean anyway, adding a little bit of extra body fat wouldn't even be a bad thing.
When it comes to hitting the gym, you really should look into finding a place where you’ll be under some actual professional supervision—even if it ends up costing a bit more upfront. Think of it as an investment in your future self. If you want to actually see results, you have to learn how to train correctly from day one; trying to unlearn bad habits later on is a massive, frustrating headache. Don't be afraid to switch gyms, either—especially if you get the chance to work with some high-level pros who can actually teach you the ropes. This is particularly important for your back development, though I'm not sure where exactly you're based. As for the training itself, honestly, given your age and the fact that you're still growing, I’d suggest sticking to kettlebells or maybe something like a high-intensity program—you know, things like Insanity or those "300" style workouts—rather than jumping straight into heavy bodybuilding. With weights, if your form is off, you can pretty much wreck yourself, and at your stage, it's just not worth the risk.

Regarding the training itself—assuming you’re strictly sticking to weights and nothing else—five sessions a week is way too much for you. You're just starting out, so three, maybe four days at most, is plenty. What actually matters is making sure you hit your whole body over the course of the week and waiting until each muscle group has fully recovered before hitting it again. That’s where rest comes in—it's huge. Give yourself at least one full day off between sessions, and if you feel like you haven't bounced back, just take two days. No shame in that. When you're pairing things up, try to combine one large muscle group—like chest or back—with one or two smaller ones. Just don't try to pair chest with quads or anything like that in a single session; that's asking for trouble. And honestly? Stick to the basics—bench press, barbell squats, deadlifts, that kind of stuff—and use free weights whenever possible instead of jumping straight to the machines. Free weights force those stabilizer muscles to work to keep you balanced, whereas machines just isolate the muscle, which isn't always what you want. For the big groups, aim for two or three exercises, and maybe one or two for the smaller ones. I'd suggest doing fewer sets—maybe three to four—but crank up the intensity. You don't need to spend hours at the gym; an hour or ninety minutes tops, including your warm-up and stretching, should be more than enough. Make sure you actually warm up properly before you start and stretch once you're done... it helps. Just keep in mind that less is often more. Beginners have this habit of overdoing it and ending up stuck in a constant state of overtraining, which, predictably, means you won't see any results at all.

Look, just a piece of advice—don't get caught up in that ego-driven competition with everyone else at the gym. You know the type, those guys who always have to chirp at you about who can bench more or who’s pulling more weight off the rack? Honestly, just ignore them from the jump. It’s a total dead end and won't get you anywhere. As for warming up, don't overdo it. A few minutes on the stationary bike or a light jog on the treadmill is plenty—just enough to get your heart rate up to that 75-80% sweet spot. I see so many people hanging out on the cardio machines for thirty minutes or even longer before they even touch a weight, and unless your specific goal is pure cardio or weight loss, it’s really just wasting your time. Don't fall into that trap.
That’s pretty much the gist of it—and look, I'm not going to bombard you with a bunch of different training programs right now. Honestly, when you're just starting out, any decent routine will do the trick, and besides, you’ll eventually need to switch things up anyway just to keep from hitting a plateau. The absolute best way to go about it? Wait until you get to the gym and have a trainer actually take a look at you—once they can assess your form and see what needs work, they'll give you a program that actually makes sense for your specific needs.

When it comes to nutrition, most top-tier dietitians—including some big names here in the States that I actually tend to agree with—basically argue that guys your age don't really need supplements. Since you're still navigating the whole puberty phase and your hormones are already doing their own wild thing, adding external stuff can easily throw that delicate internal balance out of whack. That said, if you’re dead set on taking protein, I’d suggest sticking to whey. It's just one of those things that's notoriously difficult to get enough of through regular food alone. Just as an example—and this sounds fake, I know—I used to train with this guy back when he was a total beginner. After every single workout, he’d chug a literal liter of regular milk, but get this—he’d mix in white, refined sugar. Honestly, the only "benefit" was that he actually put on size. If someone had told me that story back then, I wouldn't have believed them for a second. 🤷
I mean, if you're actually cooking your meals every day, you probably don't need to overthink this... as for glucose and carbs in general—honestly, I don't see the point in buying specialized supplements for that. They're cheap and easy enough to get from regular food—bananas, rice, pasta, oats (keep it whole grain, obviously), honey, raisins, all that stuff. I usually just stick to honey instead of refined sugar myself. I try to aim for at least four or five meals a day—you could always just whip up a shake using whatever you have in the pantry and toss it in your bag to take to class or work. And really, don't stress too much about strict dieting; at your age, your metabolism is basically a furnace anyway. Regarding alcohol—look, it’s not exactly "healthy" and it packs a lot of calories, but if you're going to drink, you might as well stick to beer or wine. It won't mess with your protein absorption, though it does tend to spike your appetite—but given your current weight, I doubt that's an issue for you. A few burgers aren't going to turn you into a puddle of fat overnight.🙂The bigger issue is if you hit the gym feeling totally trashed after a night out—because honestly, recovery is everything when you're actually trying to pack on muscle. If you have any choice in the matter, it’s always better to get that workout in first and save the nightlife for later... rather than going out and then trying to drag yourself through a session the next day.

And just a final thought—if you ever feel like an exercise isn't clicking, or if you’re just not feeling that specific muscle engagement, don't force it. Seriously, just swap it out for an alternative. It's better to move on than to grind through something that isn't working. Also, try to soak up as much info as possible. Dive into the deep end of fitness forums—places like bodybuilding.com or whatever niche subreddits you can find—and just keep researching. You really need to question everything you hear, including my own advice—I'm definitely not infallible. At the end of the day, you have to listen to what your body is telling you and trust your gut. That intuition kind of builds up over time, but eventually, you'll realize that nobody knows your physical limits and quirks better than you do. Anyway, if anything else pops into your head, feel free to reach out. I'm around.

Timothy Jones4 said:Has anyone here ever picked up some whey protein from that one user on eBay?

The price is actually a bit lower for this 2.2 kg Gold tub—definitely a better deal if you're looking to stock up. $33 Just picked some stuff up at the cheapest grocery store around—you know the type, where you half expect to find a bargain bin full of mystery items.

I haven't really gone through the trouble of price-matching everything, but man, this feels pricey... have you checked out those online shops over in Canada? Usually, they’re like 40% cheaper than what we're seeing here.

I’m wondering if there's even any point in buying whey—or any supplements, like creatine for that matter—if the diet is a total mess.
I'm looking to pick some up for someone, but I hate the idea of throwing money away when she's basically eating a margarine and sausage sandwich for breakfast and snacking on chocolate all day. Good luck trying to reason with a teenager... (She can't really control what she eats, so I won't judge, but I just don't see the point of whey if this is the case)
btw her workouts are mostly cardio

no, maybe just get it...

Honestly, that sounds like throwing money down the drain... he'd probably be better off just picking up a decent book on fitness and nutrition—it’s way cheaper, and honestly, it might actually be more useful...