Best protein powders for muscle gain?

IT DOES NOT MATTER 😂😂😂

Dennis James5 said:IT DOESN'T MATTER 😂😂😂

Since you're eating so much anyway,
you might as well tell us what Mom made for dinner.

So, here’s the deal... I’ve decided to start hitting the gym with my brother. I’m 16... (might be a little young, I guess, but I’m pretty tall and strong for my age)... so I was wondering if anyone knows... how much protein should I be taking... if I'm going three times a week? And also, is it possible to train without all those protein powders and stuff... just using healthy, real food from home... maybe some beans now and then🙄and does anyone know, based on what you've seen... how long it actually takes to build a solid, ripped physique... good abs and everything... thanks in advance🤣

Sophia Ward25 said:It goes like this... I've decided to start hitting the gym with my brother. I'm 16... (maybe a bit young for the weight room, though I don't think so since I'm exceptionally tall and strong), so I'm wondering if anyone knows how much protein would be ideal if I'm training three times a week? Also, is it possible to train without all those protein powders and supplements, just using healthy, natural whole foods from home... maybe some beans occasionally🙄 and based on your own experience, how long does it actually take to build a good, or even great, physique... defined abs and everything else... thanks in advance🤣

You aren't too young for the gym; I wasn't even 17 myself yet.😉
Protein powder? Try 30g of protein plus about 60-70g of glucose (like grape sugar, you can find it at a CVS or Walgreens) dissolved in about 3 ounces of water right after your workout.
Yeah, you can definitely train without supplements. They don't amount to much anyway if your actual diet isn't dialed in; there's no point in having supplements if you don't even have a solid nutritional foundation first.😉
Besides, beans are great.🙏 Just make sure to pair them with some meat—chicken or turkey is best, or maybe some tuna in water.😉

Now, it really depends on what your definition of a "good" body and strength level is. If you're happy being lean at 130 pounds and 5'11", you can certainly achieve that just with home-cooked meals. But if you want to be squatting twice your body weight, that’s a different beast entirely and will require some serious time. Of course, you have to factor in your nutrition, your training split, and your genetics.

Hey kids, check out this article I found for you:

http://www.building-body.com/Tinejdzeri-suplementi.html

It all sounds wonderful in theory, really—but if you don’t have that foundational support from your parents (which, let’s be honest, is the absolute bedrock of everything), then none of it matters much at all ☕

I’m speaking purely from personal experience here

goldenfox24 said:That all sounds great on paper, but if you don't have your parents backing you up (which is honestly the most important thing), then none of it matters at all. ☕

I'm speaking from personal experience here.

I couldn't agree more. 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

boldtinker12 said:Kids, here’s an article for you:

http://www.building-body.com/Tinejdzeri-suplementi.html

I found that section about the 16-to-19 age bracket particularly fascinating... basically, I’m supposedly forbidden from taking amino acid tablets, yet whey protein is perfectly fine? It’s like trying to follow logic through a thick fog. 😂
or, does creatine just recognize I haven't hit sixteen yet and decide to stop working? Pure nonsense...

Patrick Chase11 said:That part of the article about the 16-19 age range totally threw me... so what, I can't touch amino tablets but whey protein is fine? That makes zero sense.😂
Or maybe the creatine just knows I haven't hit 16 yet so it won't work? Total nonsense...

You clearly didn't read it carefully enough.

Maybe it sounds like nonsense to you, but you're still just a kid who needs to eat a mountain of macaroni and cheese before you actually understand anything about nutrition or training.
Do yourself a favor and actually read up on fitness and nutrition—there are plenty of high-quality articles online. And please, stop relying on hearsay, random internet trolls, or those self-proclaimed "gym sheriffs" at your local Planet Fitness.

boldtinker12 said:You clearly didn't read carefully.

Maybe this all sounds like nonsense to you, but you're still just a kid who needs to eat enough oatmeal to fill a bathtub before he understands anything about nutrition or training.
You’d be better off actually studying the science behind fitness and diet—there is plenty of high-quality research available online. Try leaning less on hearsay, random forum trolls, or those self-appointed "gym sheriffs" you find at your local Gold's Gym.

Nah, corn isn't great; they make stuff out of corn, whereas oats are a much better option.😉
What makes you think I don't study training and nutrition? What leads you to believe I'm just following the advice of neighborhood busybodies, glossy magazines, or those gym experts you mentioned? It's right there under my username, isn't it?

And go ahead, tell me exactly what part I failed to read carefully.

boldtinker12's page said:Teenagers under 16 have the choice to take supplements or not. If you decide to go that route, these are the products that will help you build that desired muscle mass faster.

Whey
Whey casein
Egg white protein
Soy
Protein blends
Low carb products
Mass gainer

Multi-vitamins and minerals

Teenagers aged 16 to 19

In this age group, teenagers can also use the products listed below, in addition to those mentioned above.

Creatine
Glutamine
Anabolic agents
Amino acids and BCAAs
NO (Nitric Oxide)
ZMA
HMB

Patrick Chase11 said:That section of the article about the 16-19 age range totally lost me... So what, I'm supposed to skip the amino acid tablets but I can just chug whey? Give me a break, who actually cares😂
or, does creatine somehow know I haven't hit 16 yet and decide not to work? What a joke...

😉

boldtinker12 said:😉

Well, that’s exactly how it was laid out in that article you decided to champion. 😉

It clearly states whey, under 16, then amino at 16-19.

And you're under 16 yourself, aren't you?😕

boldtinker12 said:you're under 16😕

I don't see how my age has anything to do with the nonsense written in this article.
By the way, I'll be 17 in about a year.😉

Your age definitely plays a role here. This is the original article, so feel free to read through it and make sense of all that nonsense yourself.
As far as I'm concerned, it's all complete nonsense, so go ahead and keep preaching whatever you want, whenever you want.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/teens.htm#16

http://bodybuilding.about.com/od/bod...upplements.htm

Just bench presses and protein 🙏

Jason Campbell70 said:it's just bench presses and protein 🙏

🙏

boldtinker12 said:Age matters quite a bit here. This is the original article, so just read it and translate those nonsense claims for yourself.
If you ask me, it’s all just noise, so feel free to keep preaching whatever you want.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/teens.htm#16

http://bodybuilding.about.com/od/bod...upplements.htm

Then why don't you explain to me why I can't touch creatine at 15 years and 11 months old, but once I hit 16, suddenly it's fine? What happens then, does the supplement come looking for my ID? Is it going to see I'm not old enough and say, "Oh, sorry, I won't work on you today"?
Pure nonsense... by that logic, I should probably cut out red meat too, since I might accidentally ingest a couple of grams of creatine through it.🙄

And please, tell me why it's okay to drink Whey protein but not aminos?

Come on, just explain those two things so I can sleep easy tonight and finally walk away from this argument.

1. Creatine—various studies have demonstrated that its effectiveness really depends on how developed your metabolic functions are. At 15 years old, your body just isn't operating the same way it would at 20 or 25. When you're using creatine, your overall diet plays a massive role in whether it actually works. Besides, nobody is going to stop you from buying it or taking it if that's what you choose to do.
My advice? If you’re planning on picking some up, stick to a reputable brand that sells "pure" creatine. There are way too many manufacturers out there just packing cheap Chinese creatine that has questionable purity levels.

2. Nowhere does it say you aren't allowed to take aminos; it simply suggests waiting until you're over 16. As far as I'm concerned, you can take as much of whatever you want, or rather, as much as you can afford to buy.
But again, pay attention to the brand you select. If you haven't started breaking out yet, keep in mind that those amino tablets could definitely be the culprit behind any acne.

I'll say it again: you can take whatever you feel is right for your body, and no one can tell you otherwise. Just make sure you're training hard, eating clean, sticking to your Whey casein, and enjoying the process!

boldtinker12 said:1. Creatine—various studies suggest its effectiveness depends heavily on metabolic maturity; a 15-year-old’s system isn't operating quite the same way as someone in their early 20s. Your diet plays a massive role when you're supplementing with creatine. At the end of the day, nobody can stop you from buying it or using it if you choose to.
My advice? If you're going to bother, stick to reputable brands that sell "pure" creatine. A lot of companies are just repackaging Chinese creatine that comes with some pretty questionable purity levels.

2. There's nothing saying you aren't allowed to take aminos; the general recommendation is usually reserved for those over 16. You can take as much of whatever you can afford.
Just be mindful of the brand you pick. If you haven't started breaking out in acne yet, it's worth noting that amino tablets could easily be the culprit behind skin issues.

Again, you can take whatever you feel works for you; no one is going to step in and forbid it. Just train hard, eat right, stick to your whey, and enjoy the process.

Do you actually have a study regarding metabolism and creatine? I’d love to read that, because I’ve never come across the theory that creatine works better for a 20-year-old than it does for a 15-year-old...
As for the stuff from China, I'm already well aware of the situation with liquid creatine preparations. 😉

Where is the logic in this? Am I allowed to drink protein made of amino acid chains, but I'm not supposed to take individual amino acids by themselves?

When it comes to supplements, I only stick to whey and a multivitamin. Honestly, I barely have enough left over for those, let alone adding creatine to the mix.
Training and diet are dialed in, so I'm just putting in the work. 😁