British GP Race Weekend (Silverstone) July 16-18, 2021

fadedwalker18 said:To put it simply: You're wrong.

Let’s not act like children here.

fadedwalker18 said:Well, thanks for the chat... and goodbye.

Good riddance. 👋

stormybadger8 said:......
I'm honestly not convinced Max will even be behind the wheel for the Canadian Grand Prix; it's highly unlikely the doctors will give him the green light...

If that impact really hit 51G, there's zero chance they let him back on the track...
From what I recall, the last time we saw something like this was with Fernando Alonso—if I remember correctly, it was around 46G 🤔—and he had to sit out the following race.

Personally, I think he'll be fine for the Canadian Grand Prix.
Think back to when Robert Kubica had to sit out the weekend following the 2007 Canadian Grand Prix (which was the United States Grand Prix), and he was back driving or testing shortly after that... so, yeah, Max will find a way to make it happen. 👍

When you’re north of thirty and still acting like a Max Verstappen fanboy 😁 it's honestly pathetic
If Max can just pull it off... who knows?

I honestly think it might be best if Max Verstappen skips the Canadian Grand Prix.

That crash today looked brutal. Early reports are saying he hit the wall at about 51 mph.

At the end of the day, Max's health has to come first. He needs to take the time to recover properly. Who cares about missing a race or two?

I have my doubts about whether things will be 100% ready for the Canadian Grand Prix, which makes winning that race look like a real uphill battle.

James Harris34 said:Look, I don't know if everyone here is living under a rock, but this is how championships are won. This is how Ayrton Senna took it in 1990, or how Michael Schumacher did in '94. I'm just glad we're finally seeing a real fight for the title after all this time.

Exactly. Who’s actually complaining about Schumacher intentionally crashing into Hill or letting Rubens Barrichello take the win back then? In ten years, nobody will care about the drama—only who walked away with the trophy.

Looking at the pace Mercedes-Benz is showing today, I honestly doubt Max Verstappen would have stayed behind Lewis Hamilton by the end of the race. Max Verstappen’s aggressive style is always a bit of a gamble—you either win big or you lose big. It’s a tough break for the championship, though. There was such a massive opportunity for Max Verstappen to overtake Lewis Hamilton right then and there, and it feels like he might get away with it since it looks like Lewis Hamilton didn't actually lose anything from that penalty.

fadedwalker18 said:Yeah, you nailed it.

It’s basically like Lewis Hamilton said—something along the lines of "I don't care about any of this, I'm doing my own thing because whatever I do is clearly right."

If anyone else messes up on the track, that's on them, not him—definitely not his fault today.

Plus, he's just totally proud of himself and how he handled things today.

A fool always brags about the stuff a smart person would be embarrassed by.

Jason Campbell70 said:I honestly think Max Verstappen should just skip the Canadian Grand Prix.

Man, that crash today was brutal—initial reports are saying he hit the wall at like 51 mph.

Max’s health has gotta come first—let him get some real rest, who cares if he misses a race or two?

That's the only way a "GOAT" stays on top.

It is a shame Charles Leclerc didn't take the win. I suppose I will offer a somewhat detached analysis now, stripped of any bias, since I stopped caring about Lewis Hamilton a long time ago—and Max Verstappen even less so. This was nothing more than a standard racing incident, devoid of fault, let alone deserving of a penalty. The fact that Max ended up in the hospital is simply a consequence of contact occurring at such high velocity. Both Max and Lewis Hamilton could have avoided this; primarily, it was a misjudgment of available space on Max's part. Lewis couldn't have moved to the right because, at that speed and given the line already chosen, any attempt would have likely resulted in an even more severe collision toward Max. It is called understeer. There you have it.

Everyone needs to lower their blood pressure. Personally, if I were in Lewis Hamilton's position, I wouldn't be apologizing either. He is just as much to blame as Max; it was two hot-headed drivers colliding. A pure racing incident.

And Christian Horner ought to give some thought to how he handles his reactions.

Raymond Anderson4 said:Max Verstappen's aggression is a win-some, lose-some kind of deal.

Too much aggression and winning championships just don't mix.
How perfectly Lewis Hamilton put it after a similar clash with Charles Leclerc at Monza 2019...
"If I wasn't thinking about the championship, I wouldn't have moved, and we would have collided."

But Max Verstappen just goes for it regardless. He’s gotten away with it so far, mostly because smarter drivers tend to get out of his way.

Hamilton moved at Imola, and they didn't crash.
Hamilton moved in Spain, and they didn't crash.
Now Hamilton didn't move, and they crashed.

As Americans might say, a taste of his own medicine.

There will be more of this.

Just popping my head out of the hole after being MIA for a month. Honestly, I was just getting ready to swap into my jersey.
😬

Jack Kelly5, don't let victory go to your head, and don't let defeat break your spirit.

Stay humble, and I know God will reward you in the end.

How would you describe the unfulfilled potential and the sheer pride of Thai motorsports? Maybe just: "This guy is such a sore loser!"

Or perhaps in the words of that British prima donna and favorite child of Lady Fortuna: "I’d say those were some interesting tactics on their part..."

🙂

From Brazil 2012 all the way to today, Lewis Hamilton has only ever had a single retirement due to a mechanical failure. Spain 2016.

(Correct me if I'm wrong here.
Please, feel free to set me straight.
I'm listening.)

That isn't luck.
It’s a calm, calculated mind.
Probably the most vital skill a driver can possess.
Lewis Hamilton possesses that quality like no one else has yet, and that is why he is the GOAT.

mellowtiger83 said:Man, I'm bummed Leclerc didn't take the win. But honestly—now that I've put my fan goggles aside—I’m gonna try to look at this objectively. I haven't really cared about Hamilton for a while now, and Max? Even less so. To me, this was just a pure racing incident—no one's really at fault here, let alone deserving a penalty. The fact that Max ended up in the hospital is just down to the sheer speed at which they made contact. It wasn't like it was avoidable—both Max Verstappen and Hamilton could've maybe dodged it, but it mostly feels like Max Verstappen just misjudged the gap. Just my two cents.I guess Lewis Hamilton couldn't take the inside line there—at that speed, if he’d already committed to the racing line, he probably would've just washed out even harder toward Max Verstappen. It's just classic understeer, I guess. There.

Everyone needs to chill out—seriously. Personally, if I were in Lewis Hamilton's shoes, I wouldn't be apologizing either. It’s not like he’s solely to blame; Max Verstappen is just as much at fault here. It was basically two hotheads going at it—just a pure racing incident, I guess.

Maybe Christian Horner needs to take a second to think about how he reacts to things—just a thought.

Interesting stuff—but looking at the situation with Charles Leclerc, it’s pretty obvious that Lujo took a different path there. And honestly, the way things went down with Max Verstappen, he was actually in an even worse spot than Leclerc was. I guess maybe Lujo intentionally picked this specific route for the Max Verstappen situation. The penalty itself is justified, but whether it actually fits what happened... I don't know. Personally? Not really. He should've gotten a stop-and-go instead of just a time penalty.

Jason Campbell70 said:From Brazil 2012 until now, Lewis Hamilton has only finished a race due to a crash once. Back in Spain 2016.

(Correct me if I'm wrong.
Feel free to set me straight.
I'm listening.)

That isn't luck.
It's having a smart, calm head on his shoulders.
Probably the most vital skill a driver can have.
Lewis Hamilton has that in spades, which is why he’s the GOAT.

Before you claim it's just about having an ultra-dominant car...🙂
It's pretty interesting that Rosberg and Bottas also had very few crashes during that same stretch...

And it makes perfect sense that Hamilton has even fewer...
Because honestly, if you're regularly starting from pole and driving a car that builds such a massive gap by the first pit stop that you can pit and still come back out in the lead, who the hell are you even going to crash into?
Kimi in the pit lane? 🤔
Or some guy like Nikita Mazepin whom you're lapping every other lap? 🤔

In all reality, there wasn't much opportunity to wreck during those races, and the Mercedes was basically a tank—incredibly tough, and almost nothing would break on it no matter how hard you pushed...

But this is starting to feel a lot like the 2011 season, where Hamilton was constantly clashing with Mass, so I wouldn't be surprised if history repeats itself...
Because unlike Mass, Max isn't exactly known for being calm, and he's definitely not as good at backing off in those spots... plus, we should probably expect a collision with Maksić any minute now.

Anthony Baker84 said:Interesting, but look at what happened with Charles Leclerc—it’s obvious that Lujo went a different way there. And with Max Verstappen, he was actually in an even worse spot than Leclerc. I honestly think Lujo picked this path on purpose regarding Max. The penalty is justified, sure, but does the penalty actually fix the bad call? Not in my book. He should've slapped them with a stop-and-go, not just a time penalty.

Let's be real: if they messed up, it's a 10-second stop-and-go. If they didn't mess up, there shouldn't be a penalty at all. Period.
Anything else is just a pathetic attempt to make Mass look bad in front of Christian Horner and Toto Wolff without actually fixing anything... or maybe they're just trying not to start a riot in the grandstands.

Max Verstappen is still sitting at the top after two years of DNFs. My God, what a driver. 🙏

Jason Newman said:Max is still sitting at the top even after two years of DNFs. Man, what a driver. 🙏

The absolute best... especially since he isn't even the one to blame for those DNFs.