Psoriasis [PLEASE READ FIRST POST!]

mistybear4 · 2005-03-23T18:16:08+00:00

Hannah Davis18 said: Yeah. Great, now why don't you give me the full breakdown—calcium, iron, phosphorus, magnesium, zinc, iodine, potassium, copper, selenium,…

Chris Morgan67 Member

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#261 · Jul 19, 2006

Jerry Doyle67 said:I agree, this condition is a complete nightmare...

I deal with facial redness quite often, especially on my forehead and around my nose... just constant redness accompanied by itching...
It gets even worse if I scratch it... I saw a doctor, but he claims it isn't psoriasis, just some kind of redness triggered by stress or whatever...
Basically, whenever this flares up, I apply Belosalic overnight, and by morning, everything settles down...

But the worst part is that it returns every week or two, so I’m stuck using that steroid constantly because nothing else seems to work...
Usually, I stick to light daily moisturizers, and every night I use Vaseline or something similar; if I didn't, my whole face would be red... hopefully things improve soon. Best...

Every single doctor I've seen has warned me NEVER, ever to put a heavy corticosteroid like Belosalic on my face... the same goes for Beloderm...

Walter Thompson Member

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#262 · Jul 19, 2006

For my face, I tend to use the exact same cream I apply to my body, which is a custom blend prepared for me by my local pharmacists. I’ve found that the most important part of my routine is making sure I stay freshly shaved; if I do that, I generally run into fewer issues. That is, unless I indulge in a bit too much prosciutto, in which case, I guess nothing really helps for a good two or three days.

Lisa Rodriguez84 Active Member

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#263 · Jul 19, 2006

Honestly, looking at some of the horror stories being shared here, I feel pretty lucky. My dad had it way worse—he spent months slathering his scalp with some kind of oil (can't recall which one, to be honest), and while he's dealing with a bit of a setback right now and expects it to flare up again in about a month, it actually did help him out. As for me, I deal with similar issues, but honestly? Just washing my hair regularly does the trick for me. Nothing fancy, nothing crazy.

Donna Price4 Newcomer

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#264 · Jul 21, 2006

Hihi said:Hey Jerry Doyle67,
I honestly think we're looking at seborrheic dermatitis. Most skin diagnoses are just descriptive names because, let's be real, medicine doesn't actually know the root cause yet.
The most logical explanation I've come across is that it's caused by fungi feeding on the sebum (skin oils).

Anyway, from my own experience: 1. Cut out sugar for at least a month (and if you can, stay away from it entirely), 2. Wash your face 2-3 times a day with a good cleanser (I personally use Sebamed), and 3. Try to get as much fresh air and sunlight as possible.
It worked for me—I'm about 90% clear right now! And I did it all without using corticosteroids, which really just offer temporary relief.

Sending greetings back to you too. I wash my face every morning and night with a drugstore gel cleanser... it works well for me, and then I just follow up with a basic daily moisturizer.

I don't eat a ton of sweets... but I notice it flares up the most when life gets hectic, you know? Stress, obligations, all that. Also, if I have 5 or 6 beers, I wake up the next morning with a total mess on my face... weirdly enough, if I only have 2 or 3, my skin looks perfect the next day. Hmm...

One more thing, I had no idea Belosalic could be that harmful. My doctor actually told me that if I have dandruff, I should just rub it into my scalp and it wouldn't be an issue.

What are the actual side effects of using Belosalic?

Chris Morgan67 Member

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#265 · Jul 22, 2006

Jerry Doyle67 said:Greetings to you too. I wash my face with Neutrogena cleanser every morning and night, which works fine, and then just apply a standard daily moisturizer...

I don't eat much sugar... though my skin really flares up when life gets hectic... stress and all that. Also, if I have 5 or 6 beers, I wake up with a hangover on my face... strangely enough, if I only have 2 or 3, my skin looks smooth as a baby's... hmm...

On another note, I had no idea Belosalic was so harmful. My doctor actually told me to rub it into my scalp if I have dandruff, saying it wouldn't be an issue...

What are the actual side effects of using Belosalic?

You can develop steroid dermatitis. You really shouldn't use those kinds of creams on your face. I was told that if a breakout happens, I should just apply a very thin layer of hydrocortisone ointment... I once had a flare-up and the hydrocortisone cleared it right up.

Are you applying the Belosalic lotion to your hair, or the Belosalic cream?

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#266 · Jul 24, 2006

Hey everyone. I wanted to drop a quick note about the link between psoriasis and stress, using my dad as an example.
My old man has been dealing with psoriasis for 30 years now. Usually, his skin fluctuates based on what he eats and the season—he’s great in the summer, but winters are pretty rough. Up until now, those shifts have always been gradual.
But a few days ago, things went south fast. He felt sick—likely because of that strict prep diet he had to follow before a colonoscopy, and honestly, a fever probably didn't help either. Right along with the nausea, he felt this intense, searing burning sensation all over his body. Within thirty minutes, his entire body was covered in a flare-up, including spots that have never even been touched by psoriasis before!??
And nothing has cleared up yet....
Anyone else dealt with something like this?

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#267 · Jul 25, 2006

Chris Morgan67 said:You can end up with steroid dermatitis. Honestly, you shouldn't be putting those kinds of creams on your face. I was told that if I ever developed an issue on my face, I should just apply a super thin layer of Geocortone ointment... I actually had a breakout once, and using Geocortone cleared it right up.

Are you applying the Belosalic lotion into your hair, or is it the cream?

Just the cream—the ointment, really... but only occasionally.

I'm not sure what steroid dermatitis actually is. Can someone explain?

Look, I know you can't always trust general practitioners, but surely she knew something when she prescribed that ointment? And every time I went back for follow-ups, even when I specifically asked for dermatology referrals... she refused, claiming it wasn't psoriasis and that it was just some vitamin deficiency I've had since birth.😕

Chris Morgan67 Member

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#268 · Jul 25, 2006

Jerry Doyle67 said:Just the cream, or rather the ointment... but only occasionally...

I'm not sure I follow—what exactly is steroid dermatitis? Could someone clarify?

Look, I know general practitioners aren't always the most reliable, but surely she knew what she was doing when she prescribed that ointment? Every time I went back for checkups, even when I asked for referrals to a dermatologist... she refused, insisting it wasn't psoriasis and that it was just a vitamin deficiency I've had since birth...😕

🤣 I’m about to lose my mind. Jerry, go see a dermatologist because your doctor sounds completely out of touch. I can't stand doctors who act like this. Prescribing heavy-duty creams for a simple vitamin deficiency, geez... you aren't supposed to put stuff like that on your face, let alone using a cream on your scalp instead of a liquid lotion designed specifically for it.🤣

Go to a dermatologist if you can; they'll take a biopsy, and then you'll finally have a definitive answer and the right treatment plan.

Steroid dermatitis is essentially your skin becoming dependent on Belosalic... it gets addicted, and that isn't good.

And again, just please go see a dermatologist...

Donna Price4 Newcomer

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#269 · Jul 26, 2006

Thanks for the advice, I'm done using it. As soon as any issues pop up, I'm heading straight to my dermatologist. Honestly, thank God it’s been over a month without a single flare-up...

My wife even tells me my face feels as smooth as a baby's bottom🙄 so we'll see how things go. I actually swiped one of her aloe vera creams from a brand like Avon—it's really lightweight and seems to be working for me. We'll see... either way, thanks again Chris Morgan67😘

George Fisher11 Newcomer

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#270 · Aug 2, 2006

emili said:A physical therapist over at ExxonMobil once told me that people with psoriasis don't get cancer.
Don't know if there's any truth to it, but it’s nice for someone dealing with psoriasis to hear they might be spared from that.

A friend's mom had psoriasis, then it suddenly cleared up, and right after that, she got cancer and passed away...
So no, we aren't spared...👎

George Fisher11 Newcomer

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#271 · Aug 2, 2006

Alright, let me introduce myself... I'm George Fisher11 🙂 dealing with psoriasis,

unfortunately...
I picked this up back in '91 during the war when I was 20, but it hasn't spread too bad, so I can mostly hide it. I usually manage it with some Belosalic cream and lotion, but not constantly—just after I shower.
The cool thing is you can just use plain water; you just have to soak it well and then scrub.
I heard this guy at a bar claim he rubbed his flare-ups with water every single day and it cleared right up. Who knows if there's any truth to that...

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#272 · Aug 6, 2006

No one else in my family deals with psoriasis, so I’m pretty much 100% certain that, at least for me, it’s purely psychosomatic. It flares up whenever my immune system takes a hit—like during PMS, for instance, even if things had settled down a few weeks prior. Getting enough sea air and salt water is such a huge factor too. Unfortunately, living in the Midwest, the summer air gets way too thick and humid for my skin to get the sunlight it needs, and I seriously miss being near the coast 😢
Since I started making some lifestyle changes, my symptoms have actually calmed down by about 60 percent! I'm still trying to figure out a routine that works perfectly, but for now, it's just using Elocom cream and getting some sun (I even have a little tanning bed at home for emergencies). In the ten years since I was diagnosed, I haven't noticed any real connection between sweets or specific foods and my skin. Of course, everyone should eat healthy because it helps the body handle stress better ☕

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#273 · Aug 17, 2006

I was wondering if anyone here might have heard anything about those once-a-year injections. I believe they cost roughly around $67. If anyone happens to have any insight or knows anything about them, I’d really appreciate it if you could let me know.
Thanks

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#274 · Aug 25, 2006

Hey there,
My psoriasis flared up about five years ago right after my C-section—it felt like my immune system just completely crashed, and maybe my genetics played a role too. I’ve learned to live with it, but I’m always on the hunt for something that actually works. Back when it was covering my entire body, neither light therapy nor various creams did much for me; what really made a difference were those night primrose oil capsules and Skin Formula. Now, it’s mostly concentrated on my elbows and shins, but even a trip to the beach doesn't clear it up. I think I’m going to give Psorcutan a shot since I see people talking about it all the time. Who knows, maybe one of these days I'll finally feel confident enough to wear a skirt again.

George Fisher11 Newcomer

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#275 · Sep 8, 2006

Walter Thompson said:Has anyone here heard about those once-a-year injections? They cost roughly $67. If you know anything, let me know.
Thanks

Maybe they're like that stuff they give you in the military to boost your immune system.
Supposedly, it can make a huge difference for an entire year.

placidpanther12 Member

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#276 · Sep 17, 2006

George Fisher11 said:My friend's mother had psoriasis, then it just suddenly vanished—and right after that, she developed cancer and passed away...
We aren't exactly immune to fate...👎

Look, none of us are safe from disease. Period.
The reality is—and this might sound strange to some—that when you're dealing with psoriasis, it’s actually a sign that your body is functioning at a certain level of health; when that psoriasis suddenly retreats, you can bet your life there's something deeper going wrong under the surface. Has anyone else noticed how their skin clears up slightly right when they lose weight rapidly? That’s the connection right there. Psoriasis needs a somewhat "robust" system to sustain itself—it feeds off that biological energy. But the moment your body starts fighting a major internal battle, the psoriasis pulls back. A dermatology professor once told me that you wouldn't find people with psoriasis in historical concentration camps—and it's for that exact reason.

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#277 · Sep 18, 2006

placidpanther12 said:None of us are safe from any kind of illness.
Look, when you deal with psoriasis, it’s actually a sign your body is functioning normally—and when it suddenly clears up? That’s usually when you should start worrying about some underlying issue. Has anyone else noticed their skin clearing up right after losing weight fast? That's the connection. To fuel psoriasis, your system needs to be healthy. As soon as you get sick, it recedes. My dermatology professor once told me that nobody in those concentration camps had psoriasis, and it was for that exact reason.

Can someone please explain what on earth you're talking about?!
And if this is just some sick joke, I hope you get hit with the worst illness imaginable. (My apologies to everyone else except this guy—sorry for the outburst, but that was uncalled for)

Chris Morgan67 Member

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#278 · Sep 19, 2006

I was honestly wondering the same thing—it all sounds pretty nonsensical.

But look, psoriasis is an autoimmune condition (it’s actually in the same category as multiple sclerosis)... the body starts receiving faulty signals, causing it to overproduce skin cells and ramp up the immune system because it mistakenly thinks there's a massive amount of injury or irritation everywhere... that’s where those scales come from. From what I understand, there have been some weekly vaccines being trialed abroad for a while now... if anyone knows anything more about that, please do share...

placidpanther12 Member

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#279 · Sep 19, 2006

This isn't some kind of joke—I actually heard a doctor tell a fifty-year-old man once that he should consider himself lucky to have developed psoriasis, because it’s essentially a sign that his body is functioning with incredible vigor and strength

P.S. Thanks for the kind wishes

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#280 · Sep 20, 2006

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Dr. Višnjić has already been mentioned on the forum. You can find his address and phone number at this link. I called him yesterday to order the Vipyuderm cream, and thanks to a contact of mine, it arrived this morning. I’ll report back on the results once I see how they pan out, but the issue at hand is atopic dermatitis. It’s been an ongoing struggle for months now. We have tried just about everything—mostly corticosteroids—and I suspect the doctors may have overcompensated, though they likely felt they had little else to offer as the situation kept worsening (it involves my daughter).

Why did I reach out to Dr. Višnjić?
About 18.5 years ago, when my daughter was just 1.5 years old, she suffered from eczema that left her entire body covered in scabs. After three months of unsuccessful treatments at a local clinic in Chicago, we searched further and eventually found Dr. Višnjić. Within just two days of using his X-3 cream (which is now known as Vipyuderm), all the scabs had healed and the itching stopped; within eight days, she was completely fine.
In recent years, she hasn't faced major issues, just small patches that would clear up after a few days of applying Beloderm. This year, however, has been terrible. I spent a long time trying to track down Dr. Višnjić; there were rumors he had moved to Switzerland, and now I hear he has been in America, but I have finally managed to reconnect with him and secure his cream.
Not all skin issues are identical, and everyone reacts differently, but I believe it is certainly worth a try, which is why I wanted to share my experience.

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