Psoriasis [PLEASE READ FIRST POST!]

Greetings to everyone from North Mexico. Hello, Robert Clark2. I’m actually quite pleased he decided to share his experience here again; those insights are incredibly valuable. I don't post very often, but I make sure to follow all the discussions regularly. To be honest, the sheer volume of posts and conflicting information has left me feeling pretty overwhelmed regarding what I should actually be using. One thing is "bad," the next is "damaging," and it just goes on like that. It’s constant back-and-forth about what to do versus what to apply. As of right now, nothing seems to be working, and I’m becoming increasingly convinced that there simply isn't a cure. Ivancic mentioned she was using wild ivy, and I'd be interested to hear how that's working out for her. If anyone could provide some concise advice, I’d appreciate it, as my psoriasis is starting to spread. Bye for now.

Gregory Mendoza3 said:My friend Robert Clark2,
you can keep browsing, but if you stop posting your thoughts and comments, this whole community loses its spark. Your experience is pure gold for everyone dealing with psoriasis, especially those who just joined us—sadly. Even if you can't find relief for yourself right now, you can help others more than anyone else here. With your knowledge and what you've been through, this forum stays a real place where people get actual advice and the support they desperately need.

If my last post made you want to stop writing altogether... I'm sorry. Truly. But even then, I was just being honest about what I know, think, and feel.

Look, over these last 15 years, instead of constantly slathering on every random cream, jumping from doctor to doctor, scouring libraries and the web for any scrap of news on treating psoriasis... instead of chasing herbalists from town to town looking for a miracle cure or some way to finally catch a break... if I had just spent that wasted time humbly praying to the Lord for my neighbors, for the sick, the hungry, the suffering, the downtrodden, and all of humanity—maybe even praying for my own healing—I'm certain I wouldn't have even a single spot today. I bet if I'd stayed on that path, I would've never had psoriasis at all.

Robert Clark2, I wish you nothing but the best from the Lord, and I pray God grants you healing
just like He does for everyone else...

High five!

Thanks for understanding and sticking with me while we fight this thing. Honestly, I’ll take whatever result comes our way, even if the "referee" doesn't rule in our favor (using a little sports lingo there!).
It’s tough, really tough, but we aren't quitting.
I'm not holding a grudge against anyone's posts, no matter who they're aimed at—even if they're aimed at me.
Michael Ramos3, Gregory Mendoza3, and I will be waiting right here for your magic ointment once your dad ramps up production, because just the three of us probably need more cream than half the rest of the forum combined!
Best wishes to everyone!👍

brightangler8 said:Alright, figured I’d jump in here and share what I'm dealing with too.
Not sure if I’m actually dealing with psoriasis, but honestly, it feels like it. My skin keeps acting up—these patches show up, start peeling at the top, and once that skin flakes off, everything underneath is bright red. If I try to force the peeling? Total disaster. It just looks like a raw scab. It mostly hits my elbows, behind my ears, all over my scalp, and a little bit on my back. Plus, whenever a patch clears up, it leaves this weird white spot behind. I’ve been using Betamethasone, and if I stay on top of it, the spots actually disappear... but there's a catch! As soon as one spot clears, a new one pops up somewhere else. It’s like a game of whack-a-mole! One spot goes down, another one rises up—it seriously feels like it'll never end!🤣 🤣 Honestly, they're just these tiny little spots—always the same round, perfect shape. And look, I haven't actually gone to see a doctor yet because, frankly? I'm terrified! Part of me keeps thinking, "Hey, it’ll probably just clear up on its own," but deep down, I have this nagging feeling it won't. It’s not like it’s some huge deal; most people don't even notice them, but still... the problem is definitely there.😠
Someone please help me! Seriously, if anyone can, pleaseeeeeee! 😘

🙂 Look, I really want to help you out, but first things first: go see a dermatologist and get an official diagnosis. There isn't just one type of psoriasis, and your treatment plan depends entirely on which version you're dealing with. Don't freak out if the spots look round—like little peas or tiny water droplets. If that's what you're seeing, my best guess is guttate psoriasis. It’s usually triggered by some kind of inflammatory focus somewhere in your body. Honestly, your best bet for getting this cleared up is to tackle that underlying inflammation head-on and then treat the actual patches with antibiotics. That's usually the winning combo!
My advice? Just go see a dermatologist right away. Get a professional to take a look and give you an actual diagnosis. Don't sit on it—it'll make your life so much easier!🙂

Robert Clark2 said:Look, I really appreciate you guys sticking by me and backing my fight to crush this disease once and for all, seriously, it means a lot, but honestly? I’d be perfectly fine just walking away with a draw if the ref decides to play favorites and tilt the scales in her favor—just using a little sports terminology there, if you catch my drift.
Look, things are getting seriously rough, I won't lie to you, but we aren't backing down—we’re going to push through this no matter what.
Look, I’m not here to start any fights or hold a grudge against anyone's posts, seriously—doesn't matter who they're aimed at, even if someone decides to come for me personally.
Michael Ramos3, Gregory Mendoza3, and I are basically camping out at your place waiting for that ointment once your old man finally ramps up production, because honestly, just the three of us are gonna burn through more supply than half the people on this entire forum combined!
Hey there, hope you're all doing awesome and everything's going great!👍

You’re spot on about the amounts, seriously—at this point, I don't even want to talk about "applying" cream anymore, I just want to drown myself in the stuff!😳

Ever since I joined this forum about a month ago, I feel like my symptoms have been flaring up three times as much as they used to...

Man, I woke up this morning and my face is absolutely trashed—it’s covering a huge chunk of my forehead, stretching behind my ears, creeping down the top of my neck, and there’s even a spot on my eyelid. It looks straight-up unreal, like something pulled right out of a horror flick or some nightmare scenario. To make matters worse, I just had bloodwork done a month ago and everything came back totally fine, so now I’m stuck having to go back in for more tests. I’m honestly spiraling a bit thinking this might be some massive, aggressive inflammatory thing going on inside me, especially since I don't feel any pain or anything at all. Just totally bizarre.
If those lab results come back totally clean and show absolutely nothing, then I’m honestly at a loss—I'll be staring at the wall wondering what the hell I'm even supposed to do next.

Robert Clark2 said:Thanks for understanding and supporting my fight against this disease. Honestly, I’d be fine with a draw if the referee doesn't rule in our favor (using a sports metaphor there).
It’s tough, but we’ll push through.
No hard feelings toward anyone's posts, regardless of who they're aimed at—even if it's me.
Michael Ramos3, Gregory Mendoza3, and I will be coming for your ointment once your father ramps up production. Just the two of us need more product than half this forum combined.
Best wishes to everyone!👍

Over the seven years this ointment has existed, the biggest individual users have been two guys with completely different types of psoriasis. One was like you, Gregory Mendoza3—totally covered in scales, redness, and cracked patches about 8 inches wide. The other had millions of tiny spots all over his body. They had to apply it for 3 to 4 months, using about 4 or 5 of the standard 150 ml containers. In my opinion, though, both of them were inconsistent with their application. If you skip a few days, the counter resets. Once you start again, it takes about 20 days before you even notice the itching subsiding (the first visible sign of improvement).
You seem like an older, serious man. I think you should try my ointment; your feedback would carry a lot of weight with the rest of the forum members.
As for stock levels, we thank God for providing such a massive Mother Nature; we haven't managed to exhaust her resources just yet.

Regards, looking forward to hearing from you.

Robert Clark2 said:🙂 Look, I want to help you out, but first things first—get yourself to a dermatologist so they can actually diagnose what we're dealing with. There are different types of psoriasis, and the treatment depends entirely on which one you have. Not trying to freak you out here, but if the patches are round—like the size of a pea or a water droplet—it sounds like guttate psoriasis to me. That usually stems from some inflammatory focus somewhere in your system. If you can clear that inflammation and hit those spots with standard antibiotic treatments, you’ve got the best shot at getting better.
So, my advice? Don't stall. Go see a dermatologist immediately so they can take a look and give you a real diagnosis. It'll save you a lot of headache later.🙂

Thanks a ton, Robert Clark2. Yeah, the spots are about the size of water droplets—never bigger, and they always show up solo, never clustered together. So, you're saying it's caused by some kind of internal inflammation... hmm... I'm no expert, but honestly, I'm worried it might be something else entirely. That's the part that really keeps me up at night. Anyway, I guess I don't have much choice—I'll go see a private dermatologist right away.👍
Thanks again!

brightangler8 said:Robert Clark2, thanks so much. The spots are tiny, like droplets of water—never bigger than that, and they never cluster together. So you're saying it's an inflammatory process in the body? I don't know much about that, but maybe there's something else going on... that's what scares me most. Anyway, I don't have much choice; I'll have to go see a dermatologist, probably a private one.👍
thanks!

I'm not sure where you're located, but my advice is to head to a major established state hospital. Small private practices mess things up constantly. I assume the big-name private clinics in the US are also insanely expensive.
In my limited experience dealing with this stuff, nearly 100% of misdiagnoses come from those small private offices.
I once wrote about how I was diagnosed with psoriasis, only for it to turn out to be vitiligo two weeks later.
The Probability of a veteran doctor near retirement making a mistake is slim. We're talking about someone who has seen every case imaginable in the greater New York City area over the last 45 years because private options didn't exist back then. They basically see a patient and know the diagnosis instantly. Plus, it costs way less.

Regards

Gregory Mendoza3 said:You're spot on about the quantity. At this point, I don't need to apply ointment; I need to drown in it.😳

Since joining this forum about a month ago, my flare-ups have tripled...

Woke up this morning with it all over my face—most of my forehead, behind my ears, the top of my neck, and even one eyelid. It looks unbelievable... like something out of a horror movie. Had bloodwork done a month ago and everything was fine. I'll have to redo the tests. I'm worried there's some massive inflammatory process going on, but I don't feel a thing.
If the labs come back clean, I'm truly at a loss.

Honestly, I think getting bloodwork done is pointless regarding psoriasis. If you suspect something else, like inflammation, then sure, but I doubt that affects the psoriasis unless it completely wrecks your immune system.
There isn't a single marker in a standard blood panel that shows psoriasis. I know this from experience. My transaminase levels have been elevated for five years straight without a clear reason. I've gone through every test under the sun at infectious disease clinics, especially since I'm the son of a psoriasis sufferer (sorry, I know the term is annoying, but it's the most direct way to put it).

Remembering how my father went through these same brutal phases (swollen eyes, facial issues), I think it might just be your "nervousness," whether you realize it or not.

So, you know what needs to happen.
DON'T STRESS OUT.
Regards

Michael Ramos3 said:Look, I don't care where you guys are from, but my advice? Go to one of those old, massive state university hospitals. Small private practices mess things up way too often—and I’m betting the big-name private clinics in the States are just overpriced for the privilege.
In my limited experience dealing with this stuff, there’s basically a 100% rule: almost all the wrong diagnoses come from those tiny private offices.
I’ve literally written about how my own case was misdiagnosed as psoriasis when it turned out to be vitiligo after 15 days.
The Probability that an old doctor—one who’s been seeing every single case in the metro area for 45 years because private clinics didn't even exist back then—is going to screw up is incredibly low. He basically sees the diagnosis the second he looks at you. Plus, it won't break the bank.

Best,

Yeah... honestly, I’d go to a private clinic just to get every possible blood test done for that inflammatory focus you mentioned—the thing that might have triggered guttate psoriasis. If I went through the public hospital system, I’d be waiting forever for every single lab result and scan, and I just don't have time to waste since I work in another city... plus, primary care doctors won't just hand out referrals for everything—you know how they are, always trying to dodge the paperwork... at least here in the US... you practically have to be dying just to get sent somewhere.
So, I'd probably do the bloodwork privately just to rule some things out. Finding a dermatologist is easy though—I can hit up the public system for that, but they'll probably just give me some cream to rub on it anyway. It feels kind of stupid to visit a specialist when these skin changes are barely even visible—especially since they fade immediately once I apply anything, and they're hidden under my hair... I'd feel like an idiot showing a doctor two little spots... they'll think I'm joking... I don't know... I'll start with the bloodwork to see if everything is within normal limits, then maybe hit the dermatologist later... does anyone know if the herpes virus could actually cause psoriasis, since that virus stays in your body forever?? Anyone got an answer for that? Anyway, thanks a lot for everything.😘

Gregory Mendoza3 said:You're spot on about the amount. At this point, I don't even need to apply it—I basically need to drown myself in the ointment.😳

Ever since I joined this forum about a month ago, my flare-ups have tripled...

This morning, it popped up on my face too—most of my forehead, behind my ears, the top of my neck, even an eyelid. It looks totally unreal... straight out of a horror movie. I had bloodwork done a month ago and everything was fine. Now? I’ll have to redo the labs. I'm terrified there's some massive inflammatory process going on inside, even though I don't feel a thing.
If the tests come back clean, then I'm truly at a loss.

Speaking from experience, there was a time two years ago when I honestly thought the psoriasis was going to kill me. I looked so rough even the devil would've run the other way! To be able to take the Neotigason capsule (which I wouldn't recommend to anyone), I had to get blood drawn every 7 to 10 days. We're talking full panels—especially liver tests. Miraculously, my results actually came back better than people who look perfectly healthy.
I bet yours will stay within the normal range, too.

Based on my body's rhythm, it hits me hard every spring, then just vanishes on its own during the summer—maybe leaving a tiny bit behind. Then, right around the time of the transfiguration at the end of August, it kicks back in like clockwork, unstoppable, all the way until early winter.
It's just this endless loop I can't seem to break. If I could snap out of it, I wouldn't have psoriasis in the first place.🙏

There’s no way a herpes virus is what triggers psoriasis...

It’s clearly just a genetic mess.

Robert Clark2 said:.................................................. .
Based on my own biological rhythm, I get hit by this stuff every single spring to an unbelievable degree, only for it to just vanish on its own during the summer—leaving maybe some tiny, negligible traces behind—before it kicks back in like clockwork right around the time of the transfiguration at the end of August, hitting me hard and unstoppable until winter starts.
It’s all just one big closed loop that I can't seem to break. If I could actually snap out of it, maybe I wouldn't even have psoriasis in the first place.🙏

I gotta admit, Robert Clark2, you’ve got me thinking about this..👍 . See, what you mentioned about those specific windows when the psoriasis flares up perfectly lines up with when my allergies go absolutely haywire....springtime brings the pollen fever, and then once we pass the mid-August holiday, the ragweed hits. I know this firsthand because I'm allergic as hell to ragweed, and both last year and this year, I felt that same stuffiness in my nose during the spring, along with watery eyes (though nothing compared to the nightmare ragweed causes)..👎 👎 .Basically, I developed that ragweed allergy after dealing with the psoriasis.... now, I'm not entirely sure if there's a direct link or if they're just two separate headaches happening at once, but like I mentioned before, I went in for a consultation at that Bioelixir clinic (the one based in Vienna) and during my talk with one of their doctors there, she told me that psoriasis is closely linked to things like allergies, asthma, sinusitis, and all that jazz... I mean, I don't know if it's the absolute truth, but the woman was pretty convincing... because of that connection, they treat all these conditions using the method I already described—nasal drops (honestly, that was the first time I ever heard anyone claim you could treat psoriasis with nasal drops), some kind of tonic or liquid, plus a cream. They claim a 90% success rate... I'm not totally sold on all of it, but it definitely aligns with what you just wrote.... maybe I'm just seeing patterns where they don't exist.🙂 I'm just grasping at straws here....🙂

So, I went ahead and did what I said I’d do—I reached out to those folks over in Belgrade (the Biolixir people) just to pick their brains a little. Honestly, the price difference is pretty massive... they’re charging about $160 for the treatment there (the syrup plus the nasal drops), and then another $160 for the cream. If you do the math, that’s seven days of treatment at $160 each, plus the cream, which brings the total to roughly $1,300. 😳 When you stack that up against what they're asking in Vienna, you're looking at saving $850!!!! 👍 I pressed them on guarantees, and of course, they gave me the standard line: they can't guarantee a total cure because they can't control biology, but they claimed their long-standing reputation is all the proof anyone needs. Naturally, that wasn't good enough for me, so I pushed a bit harder. I asked, "Look, if you won't guarantee a cure, would you at least throw in some follow-up therapy for free if the psoriasis flares back up within a year or two?" The woman I was talking to told me we could "work something out" or that they’d be willing to meet me halfway. She didn't explicitly promise free treatments, but I read between the lines—they’ll probably make it happen, especially since they pour so much into their marketing and probably don't want any bad press hitting them. 👎 Anyway, she suggested it might actually be smarter to do the initial treatment in Belgrade first and then head over to Vienna later for follow-ups (my doctor in Vienna mentioned that after three or four months, you might need one extra day of therapy just as a precaution, though it's not strictly mandatory). Now, I can't tell if she recommended that because their methods are actually superior, or if she’s just trying to squeeze more money out of me. The real kicker isn't just the price; it's that in Belgrade, you can actually haggle with the bosses about these "sort-of guarantees," whereas in Vienna, you get absolutely nothing. Personally, I'm leaning more toward my guy Michael Ramos3, but I wanted to see this through to the end so I could give you guys the full scoop... and let me tell you, the price gap between him and these clinics is incomparable. 👍 And honestly, more power to him.

brightangler8 said:Robert Clark2, thanks a million! The spots are tiny, like little drops of water. They're never bigger than that, and they always show up individually, never clustered together. So, you're saying it's all about inflammation in the body? Hmm... I'm no doctor, but maybe there's something else going on... that's actually what scares me the most! Well, I don't have much choice—time to go see a dermatologist. A private one, too!👍
thanks!

Guttate psoriasis is actually a pretty specific type. "Gutta" basically means "drop," which explains the name perfectly. Besides just being in your DNA, it's often triggered by inflammation somewhere else in the body—like an issue with your throat, respiratory system, or other spots.
Once you pinpoint where that inflammation is coming from, treating both the skin flare-ups and addressing the underlying cause with the right antibiotics makes this one of the most treatable versions of psoriasis out there.
It doesn't even have to be a virus; simple bacteria or strep can do the trick.

Like I said, definitely go talk to a dermatologist and maybe an internal medicine specialist as well.

Update:

A friend was just telling me about her grandmother, who used to work as a nutritionist at a major hospital over in Germany, dealing with all sorts of patients suffering from psoriasis... and apparently, the consensus among those she treated was that if your condition is triggered by stress and nerves rather than some internal inflammatory process, you actually have a pretty decent shot at seeing it clear up completely and staying away for good. I don't know what the medical establishment would make of that theory, but honestly, my whole mood shifted for the better the moment I heard it, even if I am sitting here wondering just how realistic it truly is...

Mind you, she made it very clear that anyone battling psoriasis absolutely has to strip all animal products from their diet—we're talking meat, dairy, eggs... basically everything. Out of all the dietary changes one could make, she insisted that cutting out those specific things is the absolute most critical step...

I honestly have no clue what to do with myself,
I'm just sitting here thinking about throwing everything away...
If you actually know anything at all

Maria Doyle27 said:UPDATE:

Basically, it turns out that anyone dealing with psoriasis as a direct result of stress and nerves rather than some underlying inflammatory process deep within the body, actually stands a pretty decent chance of seeing the whole thing vanish completely... and just stay gone for good...

EDIT: I meant it's caused by stress and being worked up, not genetics.

Robert Clark2 said:Psoriasis guttata falls into its own special category of psoriasis. "Gutta" basically means drop, which is where the name comes from. Aside from just having the genetic predisposition, it’s triggered by inflammatory foci—which can honestly be anything from throat issues to respiratory problems and a whole host of other stuff.
Once you pin down that inflammatory source, treating the skin lesions alongside the right antibiotic therapy makes this one the closest thing to a total cure out of all the psoriasis types.
It doesn't even have to be viruses causing the stir; bacteria, strep, or whatever else will do the trick.

Like I told you guys before—go talk to a dermatologist, and make sure to see a general practitioner too.

Yeah, I've got chronic sinus inflammation... year-round, summer and winter alike... I work in this smoky, non-stop air-conditioned space... my head constantly aches from my sinuses right above the eye... I know exactly when it's those damn sinuses acting up... and even if I pop an antibiotic, I feel like it'll just come right back. And who knows, I'm healthy enough, but man, life is stressful as hell... what a mess... you really realize how much money you throw away when your health goes south... bah👎

copperviper102 said:So, I just followed up on what I mentioned earlier. I gave the folks over at Biotech Corp in New York City a call to pick their brains. Man, the prices there are way lower... we're talking $150 for the treatment (syrup plus nasal drops) plus another $150 for the cream. So, if you do the full 7-day psoriasis cycle, that’s $1,050 plus the cream, totaling about $1,200. 😳 Compared to Chicago, that's a massive $800 savings!!!! 👍 I asked them about guarantees, and of course, they gave me the standard line—they can't guarantee a total cure, but they claim their long-standing reputation is proof enough. That wasn't good enough for me, so I pushed a little harder. I asked, "Okay, if you can't guarantee a cure, would you at least provide follow-up treatments for free if the psoriasis flares back up within a year or two?" The lady told me they'd "work something out" and try to be accommodating. She didn't explicitly promise freebies, but I read between the lines—they do a lot of marketing and probably don't want any bad press. 👎 Basically, she suggested it might be smarter to start the treatment in New York and then maybe visit Chicago later. My doctor in Chicago mentioned needing an extra session after 3 or 4 months just as a precaution, though it's not strictly mandatory. Now, I can't tell if she said that because their method is superior or if she's just looking for more business. The big difference isn't just the price; it's that in New York, you can actually negotiate these "sort-of guarantees" with the bosses, whereas in Chicago, you're stuck. Personally, I'm leaning toward Michael Ramos3's remedy, but I wanted to finish this investigation so I could give you guys the full scoop... the cost of Michael Ramos3's stuff compared to these clinics is night and day 👍 and honestly, hats off to him for keeping it affordable.

I'm right there with you. It feels like Michael Ramos3's formula is our last real shot at saving what's left of my healthy skin. From where I'm standing, things are getting worse by the day.
Once things settle down a bit, I'll make the trip straight to New York to get that remedy from Michael Ramos3.👍

As for Biotech Corp, I don't want to speak prematurely and be wrong, but let's be real: in today's world, guarantees are worth nothing. As soon as you hand over the cash and turn your back, those promises vanish into thin air.👎

This summer, I have to get in the water as much as possible, but keep the tanning to a minimum. But how am I supposed to swim? I'll have to stay fully clothed! If I strip down and people see me looking like a freaking topographical map, half the beach is going to clear out immediately.🤣 🤣 You have to start somewhere, but man, how?🙏

Maria Doyle27 said:EDIT: It’s a result of stress and nerves, not just genetics.

🙂 Seriously, go ask that grandma where reality is... look, psoriasis is what happens when stress hits someone who already has the genetic predisposition.

And how do you dodge stressful situations? You don't. Not in this day and age. I used to think it popped up within a year of a bad situation, but nope. Nope! After chatting with a top-tier dermatology professor, I found out it can actually show up up to six years after the initial stressor.
The crazy part? The psoriasis itself becomes the stress, creating this endless loop of stress causing more stress. It's a cycle that never ends.

But here's the kicker—I'm not even stressed right now, yet it just keeps spreading and spreading.👍