Starbucks

crimsonorca12 said:interfere

What exactly does that entail?

Sarah Long said:What exactly is that...?

In this case, let's say "to bother"...

shadowgardener12 said:Mass-produced junk food everywhere... then everyone tries to fix the damage by popping pills... big industry 😉

but honestly, as standards go up, more people are moving toward organic stuff. It costs more to grow, sure, but at least there's some actual oversight.

whenever I can, I try to dodge the processed crap and actually eat something real for once 😉

Exactly.👍 But what really kills me is how people chug multivitamins thinking they're actually doing something. It's just a massive placebo effect. Total nonsense. Every single doctor and scientist back in my college days told us the same thing. Big Pharma is just a money grab, nothing else... pure naivety.🙂

crimsonorca12 said:in this specific context, let's say "interfere"

So, just to clarify—is Vitamin C actually interfering with the chemical reaction of the test itself, which then triggers those false positives? Or am I misinterpreting how that works?

I don't really get the whole Kraft thing. I can drink as much as I want without dealing with heart palpitations or whatever others complain about; I guess I just haven't noticed any issues so far. I've had about four cases today, maybe three yesterday, and since I haven't been drinking it constantly lately, it’s fine. I'm just enjoying some 🙂 lemon flavor...

silvermason16 said:I started checking the ingredient labels on everything I buy,
so if I spot E 330 or something like E 124, I’m just not touching it.

😂 😂 🤣 😂 😂 👍

Sarah Long said:So, basically, Vitamin C messes with the test itself and triggers a false positive? Is that how it works?

Exactly.

It would take too long to break down the whole science behind it right now, but if you're curious, I can write it all out tomorrow...

That’s why there are dietary instructions provided before bloodwork or urine tests that people really should follow. Unfortunately, most primary care doctors in the US don't bother mentioning them before sending patients off to the lab...

Sorry if I'm derailing the thread... but doesn't the label on Kraft itself state a 'recommended' serving size? Like, how many glasses we should actually be drinking per day...🙂Just one more glass of Krafteeeeeeeee........

Stop whining, Kraft isn't even that great. Honestly, it's starting to get on my nerves.

I'm heading over to grab a drink now since there's nothing else left in the house.🙄 😠

I’d rather die from anything else than deal with this stuff. Honestly, I'd take a terminal diagnosis over drinking Kraft. 😁

rustymoose54 said:That doctor clearly knows her stuff; she managed to pinpoint the cause of the infection almost by instinct.👍

🤣 Honestly, the best way to put it—if you agree with me...😁 I’d say it belongs in the Hall of Fame.

silvermason16 said::
I've started checking labels on everything I buy,
so if I see E 330 or whatever—like E 124—I'm out.

This is just too much... way too much 😂 😂
The worst part is, people actually think like this...😲

E 330 causes cancer... give me a break... 🙄

cd, don't make a mess of this 🙂

Is it permissible to be mistaken? 🙄 Based on receiving
incorrect information?

By the way, what's the actual difference between E300 and E330?

In the US, for instance, there are 48 approved emulsifiers on the list, whereas
in Europe, that number sits at 75.

It’s expected that once the latest studies wrap up, those lists
will shrink...

here you can dig through a ton of info regarding the list of approved emulsifiers used here in the States. if you're looking for the nitty-gritty on a specific one, just throw it into Google like everyone else does... I'm really not about to sit here and break down every single one of them for you!!

Thanks for the link. I'm out — peace, baby, no hard feelings. 😉

Grace Flores85 said:Exactly.👍 But what really gets me is how people actually believe these multivitamins are doing something. It’s just a massive placebo effect. Honestly... it's not great. Every single doctor and scientist I dealt with back in college said the same thing. The whole supplement industry is basically just a money grab. People are just being naive...🙂

Unfortunately, you're right. It happens because science has taken on this role that everyone blindly follows—mostly because they don't actually understand how it works. It's become a way to control gullible people, kind of like religion used to be. For someone who just reads about products in the news, it's all too complex... too hard to grasp how studies are conducted or how they cherry-pick facts to hide the truth...

A trivial example regarding vitamin absorption and supplements is how you take them. Magnesium and calcium have to be taken separately. Same goes for iron. Otherwise, they just bind together and get flushed out. Vitamin C and magnesium are the same way... they don't work well together for the body.

Kraft is being marketed as some kind of "masterpiece," much like so many other frozen pizzas out there. Just because an ad claims it’s amazing doesn't mean it actually is—marketing exists to move units, plain and simple.

Take cola, for instance. They wrap it in all this "savor the moment, blah, blah..." nonsense, when in reality, most of it is just junk loaded with artificial coloring, flavorings, white sugar, caffeine, CO2, and who knows what else?

There is a great American saying: "Don't believe the hype." In plain English, that means you should never take an advertisement at face value.

Mario

Americans put it more elegantly
Truth is What sells 😉

not this again... 🙂

silvermason16 said:Grace Flores85, don't go making a mess of things here. 🙂

Is there actually a rule against being wrong, or are we just expected to pretend we have all the answers? 🙄 Based on what we’ve gathered...
So, we're dealing with bad information now?

So, what’s actually the deal with the difference between E300 and E330?

In the States, for instance, the FDA allows about 48 different emulsifiers on their approved list, whereas over in Europe, they're much more restrictive.
The European Union keeps a list of seventy-five approved emulsifiers, which feels like they’re trying to catalog every single way to keep things from separating.

It looks like we’re headed toward a situation where, following a constant stream of fresh studies and that updated list, everything is bound to shift.
Keep it short.

Just to clear the air on this before things get messy: that "E" designation isn't just some shorthand for emulsifiers. It’s actually a systemic coding system where the number serves as the specific identifier for the substance itself. Emulsifiers are really just one small subset of additives—it's purely a coincidence that they happen to start with an E, which is why people constantly conflate the two terms. You've also got preservatives, colorants, and flavorings all living under that same umbrella.

Furthermore, when you look at the regulatory guidelines, they don't actually categorize additives into "allowed" versus "forbidden" buckets. It’s more like a master list of what’s permitted, provided you follow the specific FDA standards for each individual product category. If an ingredient on that list suddenly turns out to be hazardous, it just gets scrubbed from the books entirely.

And then they have the nerve to claim that the numbers don't strictly follow a sequence, even if there’s some underlying logic at play—suggesting you might run into an E425 only to find E426 has vanished entirely, leaving you to jump straight to E427.