Long live the new king!

darkmarlin16 said:I refuse to believe Paul is trolling us with this Sebastian Vettel stuff.

Look, darkmarlin16, were you even on this forum back in 2008 or what? 🙂

Joe, were you just about to dive into some lecture on spacetime using Sebastian Vettel's cheering as an example?🤣🙏

stormybadger8 said:Hey darkmarlin16, were you even around on this forum back in 2008 or not? 🙂

Correcting an inaccuracy.

I actually declared Sebastian Vettel the successor to Michael Schumacher way back in 2007.

ruggedhawk20 said:Just as space doesn't flow. Perhaps someone capable of moving only in straight lines and in a single direction might think that space flows.

My construct transcends those trivial limitations.

Give me a break here... Does anyone actually remember who among you was talking about F1 back when you were still stuck in high school?

William Bennett53 said:Give me a break... Who among you actually remembers talking about F1 back when you were stuck in junior year of high school?

Who remembers?

The forum remembers!

stormybadger8 said:Listen, darkmarlin16, were you actually hanging around this forum back in the ancient days of 2008 or what? 🙂

from October 7th, in the year of our Lord 2007.

darkmarlin16 said:since October 7th, 2007.

Paul is basically a Ferrari fanboy through and through, so obviously he was rooting for their driver and against whoever was breathing down his neck for the title. ☕
You've been lurking here so long you clearly can't remember what Paul actually thought about Sebastian Vettel or Alonso back when neither of them were even at Ferrari, let alone in the running for it...
And honestly, watching you foam at the mouth over his take on Alonso was just painful to witness. 😬

stormybadger8 said:If they actually had any guts, they would’ve stuck by Robert Kubica back in the day, and if they had balls, they would've stood up for Jules Bianchi too; hell, if they had any backbone at all, they would have snatched up Esteban Ocon or Daniel Ricciardo before they ever signed on with Red Bull Racing...

But unfortunately, Ferrari just doesn't have the stones. And honestly, it looks like you were spot on when you said Ferrari isn't seeing another championship for decades. The only thing is, that realization probably isn't doing you any favors right now 😁

Ferrari has devolved into this totally mediocre outfit, and their driver lineup is a perfect reflection of that mediocrity. Expecting them to move forward is a joke; next season is just going to be another massive step backward.

stormybadger8 said:Paul is basically just a die-hard Ferrari fan through and through, so obviously he’s gonna root for their guy and throw shade at whoever's actually standing in his way for the championship ☕
And honestly, you've been lurking here forever and you still can't seem to remember what Paul actually thought about Sebastian Vettel or Fernando Alonso back when neither of them were even driving for Ferrari, let alone being in the same zip code as the title fight...
Man, you were getting so worked up over his take on Alonso that it was actually painful to watch 😬

Look, I know exactly what he was saying. I just genuinely thought he’d finally grown some sense after watching the Maestro pull 150% out of that absolute garbage Ferrari car and absolutely demolish his own teammates.

darkmarlin16 said:I know what he was saying. But I figured he’d come to his senses once he saw how Maestro managed to squeeze 150% out of that absolute wreck of a Ferrari and absolutely crushed his own teammates.

It was Domenecalia and LdM who butchered them, not Maestro...

darkmarlin16 said:Unfortunately, Ferrari lacks any real backbone. And looks like you were right—they won't see a championship for decades. Too bad that doesn't help you now. 😁

Ferrari didn't have any guts with the old crew, but Marcione actually does...
Poteral cleared out LdM, Domenecalia, and Alonso... and eventually even Matija, whom he only brought in to get rid of the parasites...
He's cleaning out the squad that was dragging Ferrari straight to the bottom and starting to bring in actually competent drivers and people.
Kimi is basically just a stopgap; they'll give him one more year of breathing room, and if he proves he's still got it, he stays. If not, he's out.

Next season, expect Ferrari to be way better than this year—whether that means podiums, wins, points, or just the final standings.

Marcione!

Alonso DID NOT overtake him

darkmarlin16 said:Marcione!

Alonso didn't push him

He didn't push him, he just shut him down 😁
Perfectly assessed his ego and got rid of him without spending a single dime 🙏

You can tell the guy knows exactly what he's doing. He saved the team a ton of cash meant for car development and the PU 👍

🤦

Honestly, Alonso pulls way more out of that Ferrari than he ever had any right to, I swear, just absolutely demolishing his teammate on points every single season without fail.

If it wasn't for Alonso, Ferrari would basically be stuck at the level of Force India.

If Ferrari didn't have Alonso, they’d probably have at least two titles sitting in the trophy case from the last five years.☕
Alonso is a myth, and honestly, he was the biggest headache Ferrari ever had.
Even if he were as great as you claim, he’d still be the problem. If anything, having a superhero on the team would just mean everyone else could sit around doing nothing all year, knowing he'd somehow drag them to the top even when the car was absolute garbage.

stormybadger8 said:If Ferrari had Alonso, they would have at least two titles in the trophy case over the last five years.☕
Alonso is a myth, and that myth was actually Ferrari's biggest issue.
Even if he were as good as you claim, he’d still be the main problem. It would just mean the rest of the team could have spent the entire year slacking off because they had a superhero who could drag them to the front with nothing but sheer willpower.

Everyone has their own take. To be fair, we're just talking about myths here.

stormybadger8 said:It wasn't them pushing him out—he actually just gave them the boot 😁
He read that ego perfectly and cleared his plate without spending a single dime... 🙏

🤦

Don't you get that Alonso walked away from them, not the other way around? ☕

You can tell the guy knows exactly what he's doing—plus, he saved the team a massive amount of cash meant for car development and the PU 👍

How can you be so sure Felipe Massa isn't making just as much as Alonso—maybe even more!

neonfox65 said:🤦

Do you honestly believe it wasn't Lewis Hamilton who sabotaged them, rather than the team pushing him out? ☕

Is that so? Well, if I recall the reports correctly—and perhaps I misread them—they turned down his request for a one-year deal while simultaneously stripping away his privileges regarding technical staff selection for his side of the garage. If those rumors hold any water, it wouldn't look much like a mutual parting; it would look more like they forced him out just to clear a path for Ford. ☕

stormybadger8 said:If Ferrari hadn't had Lewis Hamilton, they probably would’ve walked away with at least two titles in the last five years... honestly... ☕

Those two titles really did him dirty—back in 2010 and 2012...

Lewis Hamilton is just a myth—and honestly, he was the core issue at Ferrari...

Lewis Hamilton absolutely crushed his teammate—but apparently, the four-time champ just folded under pressure from some guy named Richard... 😂 You tell me who the legend is... 👋

William Bennett53 said:Is that right? Man, I must have misread something then—I heard they turned down his request for a one-year deal and told him they were cutting back on his technical crew for his side of the garage. If that’s actually what happened, it sounds less like a choice and more like they pushed him out just to clear a seat for Ford... ☕

You've got it all wrong 👋

You really believe everything you read online, huh...

Where's your logic? If Lewis Hamilton wanted to stay at Ferrari, he would've stayed—he had a contract. But Lewis wanted out because he was done playing games with them. They didn't give him a car that could compete with a couple of Red Bulls for five years straight, so obviously, he's moving on to find some wins with someone else.

neonfox65 said:Your information is incorrect. 👋

Do you really believe everything you read?

Where is your logic? If Alonso had wanted to stay at Ferrari, he would have stayed because his contract would have required it. Instead, Alonso requested his exit from Ferrari because he simply ran out of patience with them. They failed to provide him with a car even remotely comparable to a couple of Red Bulls over five years; it stands to reason that he would leave to pursue victories elsewhere.

I suppose I do believe everything I read, seeing as you are busy defending a driver's decision to walk away from the very team where he was the undisputed master of championships—all without having a signed deal anywhere else, only to watch them struggle to complete three laps without a breakdown, while they still haven't offered him a contract.