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Mission: Impossible or Bourne?

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wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active MemberOP
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#21 ·
Joshua Smith5 said:That scene where Tom Cruise slowly realizes in the restaurant that Jon Voight's villain is actually more compelling than the entire Bourne franchise combined. 🙂

There is definitely something special about this movie. 🙂 Maybe it's because the plot takes place in Prague—and I absolutely love Prague... Regardless, I dig it, and compared to the Bourne films, there's this distinct European atmosphere you can almost feel hanging in the air while watching. 🙂 It’s constantly jumping through European cities, and occasionally outside of Europe, of course.

And yeah, let me reiterate: for me, Mission: Impossible 1996 holds a unique place in my heart—it's a permanent fixture, and I'm not changing my mind on that. I remember being a kid in Prague right around the time the film was released, and then heading back there shortly after... it's one of those things you just can't quite put into words. 😁
stormyridge2 stormyridge2 Member
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#22 ·
Honestly, Mission: Impossible has become such a bigger drag than the new Bond movies. And don't even get me started on Bourne—that trilogy finale was way too predictable for my taste. I can't help but feel like the whole thing is just your run-of-the-mill action thriller. It’s fine if you want something to watch, but nothing mind-blowing. For me, it's gotta be Mission: Impossible, especially after how good those last two sequels were.
Drew Allen77 Drew Allen77 Active Member
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#23 ·
wiredraven82 said:If Matt Damon wasn't playing the part, I wouldn't even think about watching these movies🙂 In other words, it just wouldn't be the same.

I absolutely love Matt Damon as an actor; his performance in the Bourne series was perfect... honestly, there’s hardly a Matt Damon movie I haven't enjoyed. Matt Damon rules.

And look, can we clear one thing up? I adore the Bourne films—the first three, specifically... they're masterpieces to me. There's just something about them that goes beyond objective quality... I can't quite put my finger on it. I don't want to play lawyer here regarding Mission: Impossible, but I feel compelled because people keep trying to compare Mission: Impossible to mindless action flicks... which isn't true at all, except maybe for Mission: Impossible 2.

It's all subjective. Personally, I can't stand Damon; he's everywhere and I haven't seen a single movie of his that I actually liked... I thought Jeremy Renner was better in Legacy, even if the movie itself wasn't great.

To me, Tom Cruise is a better actor than Matt Damon, regardless of the film...
Kenneth Jackson3 Kenneth Jackson3 Member
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#24 ·
I honestly can't make up my mind. The Bourne trilogy is just top-tier, absolute peak cinema for me, but then again, Mission: Impossible 1996 is easily one of my all-time favorites. It was so ahead of its time—the action scenes didn't feel like those tired old clichés you see everywhere else. That whole sequence where they drop into the vault 🙏
... man. Mission: Impossible 1996 is definitely my favorite action flick of all time.
Even Ghost Protocol was actually great!

Either way, Mission: Impossible and Bourne are both right up there for me 😁
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active MemberOP
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#25 ·
Kenneth Jackson3 said:I honestly couldn't make a call on this one. The Bourne trilogy is easily the peak of the genre for me—it's just untouchable—but then again, Mission: Impossible 1996 remains one of my all-time favorites. It was so ahead of its time; unlike most action flicks from that era, the set pieces aren't just recycled clichés. That sequence where they drop into the vault 🙏
Mission: Impossible 1996 is definitely my favorite action movie of all time.
Even Ghost Protocol was fantastic!

Either way, M:I and Bourne occupy the same top-tier space for me. 😁

Fair enough—I’m with you on everything. For me, Mission: Impossible 1996 is also the greatest action movie ever made.

Whenever that main score from M:I starts playing Mission Impossible Theme(full theme) during certain scenes—especially in the '96 original—I get goosebumps from head to toe. 😁Who wouldn't feel that...

In addition to all those scenes you mentioned, there’s that one moment for me where Tom Cruise jumps from a train toward a helicopter right as the music kicks in. Some people might say that scene is "too much," but not me... the guy jumped out of sheer, unadulterated madness. Then the music hits, followed by that whole bit with the explosive gum—man... DAMN... 😁it's unrepeatable.

Check out the scene, starting from 03:49:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJRFSAVyX_E

God, I remember watching this in the theater when I was just a kid; I thought I was going to leap right out of my seat. 😁I distinctly remember almost everyone in the cinema shouting, "HOLY SHIT!!" the second he leaped for that helicopter, haha.

P.S. The person who uploaded this video clearly edited it a bit—they kept the original audio but layered the music over it—but regardless... I can't find the original clip anywhere, probably because of some annoying copyright issue.
Kenneth Jackson3 Kenneth Jackson3 Member
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#26 ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obr9mdKJs_k

Seriously, this is hands down the best one yet. 😬

I mean, have you even seen the series, maybe?
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active MemberOP
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#27 ·
Kenneth Jackson3 said:I’ve been sitting here thinking about this clip, and honestly—it’s a perfect case study in how certain cinematic tropes have aged, for better or worse. When you look at the sheer scale of what they were trying to pull off, you have to respect the ambition, even if the execution feels a bit heavy-handed by today's standards. It reminds me of that specific tension you find in high-stakes spy thrillers where the momentum is everything—if the pacing slips for even a second, the whole illusion shatters. It’s similar to how we view the evolution of action franchises in the States. You start with these gritty, grounded foundations, and then suddenly you're looking at massive, gravity-defying set pieces that feel more like a circus act than a tactical operation. There’s a fine line between "spectacle" and "absurdity," and while some directors walk it perfectly, others tend to trip over their own feet trying to outdo the last installment. The technical side of it is what really catches my eye, though. The way they handle the tension—building it up through silence before slamming you with the payoff—is a technique that hasn't lost its edge. Even if the plot itself feels a little thin, the craftsmanship behind the camera is undeniable. It’s that relentless drive toward the climax that keeps you watching, regardless of whether you actually buy into the logic of the situation. Some might call it overkill, but I’d argue it’s just pure, unadulterated filmmaking intended to push the limits of the genre.

The absolute pinnacle. Period. 😬

Have you actually sat down and watched the series—maybe?

Oh, absolutely... hahaha. Seriously, that scene at the 0:25 mark where they lock eyes while looking toward Langley—it’s pure gold. I just love Reno's character, and honestly, Luther is easily one of my favorites. 👍

It’s especially hilarious when Luther starts rambling on about all the high-tech gear they need to pull the job off—especially that part where he ends up getting grease all over his mustache just to keep everything running. Haha. 😁 And then that music kicks in again right as they head toward Langley... and you just know—that's it.

I’ve always found that entire dynamic between Luther and Ethan to be absolutely top-tier—it’s easily one of the best parts of the series. There is that specific moment toward the end of the film where Ethan basically tells him, "Look, Luther, if it makes you feel any better, you'll always be a criminal in my eyes," and seeing Luther just soak that up with a grin? It’s gold. It captures their bond perfectly. 😁
Sandra Brown Sandra Brown Member
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#28 ·
Bourne works because it’s such a great look at a man discovering who he actually is—he’s suddenly gifted with these skills he doesn't even understand, but eventually, he pieces his past together and chooses his own path. Honestly, the book is even better...
Mission: Impossible feels like a polished version of James Bond to me. It’s a solid series, but at its core, it really just boils down to: "defeat the villain and get the girl." I haven't seen Ghost Protocol yet, though I hear nothing but good things about it...
Peter Jones10 Peter Jones10 Newcomer
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#29 ·
I think the first, second, and fourth Mission: Impossible movies are absolute classics, though I honestly found the third one to be pretty tedious.

I’m also a huge fan of Bourne's Supremacy and the Bourne Ultimatum, but for some reason, the first and last films in that series just didn't grab me at all.

Both franchises have their own specific strengths and weaknesses, but if I had to make a choice, I'd pick Mission: Impossible over Bourne any day of the week.
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active MemberOP
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#30 ·
Benjamin Sanders44 said:The Bourne series works because it beautifully tracks a man discovering his own identity—he's handed these incredible skills he doesn't even understand, only to finally piece together his past and choose his true path. Honestly, the books are even better...
To me, Mission: Impossible feels like a well-packaged version of James Bond; it’s a solid franchise, but at its core, it boils down to: "defeat the villain, sleep with the girl." Mind you, I haven't seen Ghost Protocol yet, though I hear nothing but praise for it...

Don't even go there. 🙂 Please, stop comparing Mission: Impossible to some sci-fi-adjacent thing like James Bond—with all due respect to the fans and that endless British mockery (though I'll grant an exception for Connery). Personally, I don't care for Bond or the entire franchise, even if it has been running for over half a century... My biggest gripe is how no one in those movies ever asks why Bond hasn't aged a day in fifty years. Maybe James Bond is a vampire, who knows... haha.

Mission: Impossible has what people call "soul," and it actually had its own distinct identity through the original TV series long before the movies. The films themselves are much more serious action pieces than Bond—especially Mission: Impossible 1996, which stands out as one of the truly intelligent action films (alongside the Bourne films, though personally, I find the 1996 entry even sharper than Bourne). To me, it's easily the smartest action movie out there. It’s almost an insult to compare a film like that—or even Mission: Impossible 3 and 4—to those Schwarzenegger action flicks like Commando, or to Bond for that matter. Let's not be reckless with our comparisons, people.

In terms of narrative depth and stylistic flair, the Mission: Impossible saga is far more substantial than movies like Lethal Weapon or Die Hard—and while I love both of those franchises, let's not compare apples to oranges.

I remember when Mission: Impossible 1996 first hit—it felt like just yesterday. It was a total phenomenon; you could never find a copy at the local video rental shop because they were always checked out.😁

Regardless of how this argument is framed here, Mission: Impossible possesses its own cinematic soul and style. It has absolutely nothing to do with Bond.
Sandra Brown Sandra Brown Member
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#31 ·
My apologies if this comparison feels a bit off base. As I see it—looking strictly at the plot structures—the James Bond films tend to be pretty isolated entries, aside from the recent stuff or those early outings where he’s taking on SPECTRE. Because of that, the specific era of Bond doesn't really factor into my reasoning.
Regarding the tone—seeing a helicopter in a tunnel alongside a high-speed train, plus Tom Cruise pulling off those stunts—it all feels a bit sci-fi to me (that's just how hyperactive thrillers get sometimes). In that regard, Jason Bourne takes the lead.
Forgive me, but since I haven't sat through the entire series, I don't quite have that connection to Mission: Impossible. For me, it will always be a solid, above-average franchise that I'll happily watch whenever a new one drops, but it'll always pale in comparison to Jason Bourne.

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