Thinking about trying drugs

dustypilot22 said:If you're lucky enough.

On my street, three people from my old crew passed away before they even hit 25. Two of them have spent way more time behind bars than actually being free, and two others are stuck in that endless loop of rehab-to-prison-to-rehab. Only one guy has managed to stay clean for nine years now.

He’s a truly great guy with incredible grit. He’s the living embodiment of that "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger" mantra.

Seriously, he’s tougher than ever. Not just mentally, but in terms of his knowledge, experience, and even his finances.

He's a steady family man now. 🙏

And looking at everything he's been through and how he pulled himself out of it...

If they made a movie about his life, the average viewer might find it less believable than something like "The Godfather" or "Scarface."

But hey, a deal is a deal...
I know plenty of people who never moved past weed—maybe they dabbled in some amphetamines and just ended up spiraling exactly how they started.

It’s not like I’m out here egging anyone on or encouraging them to try something—it’s just that scare tactics aren't going to change a damn thing.

Larry Wells2 said:So, I'm writing this because I'm planning on trying drugs for the first time. I'm 17 and a junior in high school. Just a heads-up: don't bother trying to talk me out of it, because I'm going to do this regardless of whatever stupid comments you leave. I guess I've just reached a point where I feel like I've done everything else and I want to try something new. To be clear, I haven't even touched weed yet. I have zero interest in smoking that. But all my friends are into speed now, and now this other friend is pushing us to try cocaine. Money isn't the issue. I'm just stuck on what to actually go with, so I wanted to hear about your experiences. What's the best way to get a real high without being a total zombie for 24 hours? I'm thinking about doing something Saturday night so that by maybe 2 or 3 in the morning on Sunday, I'm somewhat functional, though I still want the experience to actually hit.

Oh, sure, go for it.
It’s not really about the substance itself, it’s more about your whole mindset toward the thing.
From reading your post, it sounds like you just want to taste it rather than live your life being high all the time.
I’m fine with that.
Just be smart and keep some self-control.
I’ve tried cocaine myself a few times and trust me, it’s not some life-altering epiphany, but the feeling is decent enough.
Let us know how it goes!!

placidranger said:But hey, a deal is a deal...
I know plenty of people who never moved past weed—maybe they dabbled in some amphetamines and just ended up spiraling exactly how they started.

It’s not like I’m out here egging anyone on or encouraging them to try something—it’s just that scare tactics aren't going to change a damn thing.

Honestly, I know at least two guys who have basically lived on the sofa permanently. 😁

And they still haven't changed one bit. 😁

Three, four, maybe five joints a day and they're good to go.

Sure, my apartment has basically turned into a storage unit for all the random stuff they leave behind at my place, but honestly... my God...

Nobody's perfect, right? 😁 😁 😁

Sandra King86 said:I don't know, placidranger... there's always gonna be an idiot out there. Tomorrow he'll probably show up asking "what's the safest way to rob a currency exchange." And the worst part? Some even bigger moron will actually give him advice...

That's already happening 😁 have you checked out Mole?

Using drugs is just self-destruction—it's not like they're out there robbing banks or anything.

I quit after a few pills. I took them twice in my life and decided: never again. You see there’s a limit to everything.
I just had to try every mistake once, but that was years ago and I don't regret the lesson.
I suppose I got lucky because I grew disgusted with it; one time, the depression following an ecstasy trip hit me so hard that I simply drew a line in the sand 😬 and walked away from it all. Thank God 🙏

Whether that left any lasting damage on my brain remains to be seen, though I am well aware of the potential fallout. 👎

Kid, don't touch this stuff unless you're incredibly strong and surrounded by solid people (and you already admitted your circle is full of junkies. That's a recipe for disaster. 🙂 )

placidranger said:That's already happening 😁 have you checked out Mole?

Using drugs is just self-destruction—it's not like they're out there robbing banks or anything.

And that’s exactly why I’m all for full legalization. Period.

I know the local dealers won't be thrilled to hear that, but honestly, who cares? 😁

dustypilot22 said:Honestly, I know at least two guys who have basically lived on the sofa permanently. 😁

And they still haven't changed one bit. 😁

Three, four, maybe five joints a day and they're good to go.

Sure, my apartment has basically turned into a storage unit for all the random stuff they leave behind at my place, but honestly... my God...

Nobody's perfect, right? 😁 😁 😁

is... there are plenty of them... but hey, it's their choice.

placidranger said:is... there are plenty of them... but hey, it's their choice.

Fair enough.

Hey, did you get a chance to try it?
How was the experience?
Are you still in one piece to give us the lowdown...
And
have you given mushrooms any thought? Apparently they're wild...

dustypilot22 said:Of course they wouldn't.

But let's be honest: whether it's weed, candy, or heroin, none of them actually bring anything positive to the table.

You're right—they didn't work for me, damn it.

Sandra King86 said:Doesn't look that way from your posts...

Just because they aren't strict? Please. Anyone hell-bent on using drugs is gonna do it regardless of all the lecturing about how dangerous it is—if that weren't true, nobody would be doing it. I think a harm reduction approach beats bans and lies about one joint leading straight to rehab every single time. If someone's already decided to go down that road, they might as well have the basic info to do it somewhat smart.

dustypilot22 said:Of course they wouldn't.

But let's be honest: whether it's weed, candy, or heroin, none of them actually bring anything positive to the table.

Same goes for cigarettes, fast food, and plenty of other stuff...

Carol Jackson45 said:Just because they aren't strict? Please. Anyone hell-bent on using drugs is gonna do it regardless of all the lecturing about how dangerous it is—if that weren't true, nobody would be doing it. I think a harm reduction approach beats bans and lies about one joint leading straight to rehab every single time. If someone's already decided to go down that road, they might as well have the basic info to do it somewhat smart.

Same goes for cigarettes, fast food, and plenty of other stuff...

Well, you definitely get full from a burger. You're putting fuel in your body, right? So, technically, it's perfectly fine.

As for the smoking and all those other habits—I'm with you there. Especially when we have to face the reality that tobacco is essentially a drug.😉

I’m a firm believer that everyone should be free to live however they choose, provided we stick to one fundamental rule: they have to pay for their own habits with money they actually earned.*

*And let's be clear—that money shouldn't come from theft or shady business dealings!

If someone knows how to make an honest living, then what they do with their leisure time is their business.
I have a relative who was deep into heroin at seventeen, completely lost in it, but she managed to get clean by the time she turned twenty-one. Her husband went through the exact same thing and is sober now too—though I can't tell if his current struggles are a lingering effect of the drugs or just the aftermath of his time serving in the military.
Before he met her and finally found some sense, the guy probably wouldn't have made it past thirty-two; you don't see many people willing to go through that kind of transformation for love.
My relative's husband smokes a few joints a day now, and honestly, he seems perfectly fine, even if he gets a little spaced out every once in a while.
Then there's my neighbor, who has been smoking weed daily for the last twenty years, and he definitely lives in a bit of a permanent fog.
I know one former acquaintance who is still stuck in a cycle of addiction, but I actually owe another guy a thank you for introducing me to the best hash I’ve ever had in my life (thanks, Frankie! :cerk🙂).... and in my eyes, all of them are just regular people, not "addicts" in the way society defines them.🙄

However, when I see those two desperate junkies wandering from the slums over to the downtown district looking for a fix, seeing people like that makes me want to retch. It makes me want to take a swing at anyone advocating for drug use. It doesn't matter how many people successfully pull themselves out of the gutter; what matters is that some corporate clone or corrupt official could inadvertently nudge a fourteen-year-old kid into trying it, and it’s us who end up paying the price. That kid is the one who truly gets screwed over. We're all going down together if we keep playing games with this issue.

I would never, under any circumstances, advise my own child to touch drugs—regardless of anything I’ve experienced personally.

Go over to the UN diet topic; things are a bit more sane over there....

crimsonbear23 said:I’m a firm believer that everyone should be free to live however they choose, provided we stick to one fundamental rule: they have to pay for their own habits with money they actually earned.*

*And let's be clear—that money shouldn't come from theft or shady business dealings!

If someone knows how to make an honest living, then what they do with their leisure time is their business.
I have a relative who was deep into heroin at seventeen, completely lost in it, but she managed to get clean by the time she turned twenty-one. Her husband went through the exact same thing and is sober now too—though I can't tell if his current struggles are a lingering effect of the drugs or just the aftermath of his time serving in the military.
Before he met her and finally found some sense, the guy probably wouldn't have made it past thirty-two; you don't see many people willing to go through that kind of transformation for love.
My relative's husband smokes a few joints a day now, and honestly, he seems perfectly fine, even if he gets a little spaced out every once in a while.
Then there's my neighbor, who has been smoking weed daily for the last twenty years, and he definitely lives in a bit of a permanent fog.
I know one former acquaintance who is still stuck in a cycle of addiction, but I actually owe another guy a thank you for introducing me to the best hash I’ve ever had in my life (thanks, Frankie! :cerk🙂).... and in my eyes, all of them are just regular people, not "addicts" in the way society defines them.🙄

However, when I see those two desperate junkies wandering from the slums over to the downtown district looking for a fix, seeing people like that makes me want to retch. It makes me want to take a swing at anyone advocating for drug use. It doesn't matter how many people successfully pull themselves out of the gutter; what matters is that some corporate clone or corrupt official could inadvertently nudge a fourteen-year-old kid into trying it, and it’s us who end up paying the price. That kid is the one who truly gets screwed over. We're all going down together if we keep playing games with this issue.

I would never, under any circumstances, advise my own child to touch drugs—regardless of anything I’ve experienced personally.

Go over to the UN diet topic; things are a bit more sane over there....

🙏

Now, this is the only question worth asking. 👍

I might even phrase it a bit more gently:

Would you even care if your child decided to use drugs?

Even if it was just "experimental"... 🙄

I’ve always been a proponent of transparency and open discussion over silence and fear-mongering. It’s much better for someone to fail because they jumped in without knowing the ropes than to walk blindly into a disaster simply because nobody told them what was coming—or because they were too stubborn to realize they were out of their depth. We need to be talking more about the permit process.

placidranger said:I’ve always been a proponent of transparency and open discussion over silence and fear-mongering. It’s much better for someone to fail because they jumped in without knowing the ropes than to walk blindly into a disaster simply because nobody told them what was coming—or because they were too stubborn to realize they were out of their depth. We need to be talking more about the permit process.

Always. 👍

dustypilot22 said:🙏

Now, this is the only question worth asking. 👍

I might even phrase it a bit more gently:

Would you even care if your child decided to use drugs?

Even if it was just "experimental"... 🙄

If they're actually going to try it, I'd rather be in the loop—knowledge is power, after all. Maybe they’re just acting out of pure curiosity, or maybe they're running from some underlying issues that could actually be solved this way. Either way, I'd prefer to know.

placidranger said:I’ve always been a proponent of transparency and open discussion over silence and fear-mongering. It’s much better for someone to fail because they jumped in without knowing the ropes than to walk blindly into a disaster simply because nobody told them what was coming—or because they were too stubborn to realize they were out of their depth. We need to be talking more about the permit process.

I agree with the sentiment, but he wasn't actually looking for literature; he was asking for a recommendation on which high would be the best one.🙄
That’s entirely subjective, really. The most effective way to learn is through hands-on experience—you know, actually taking it. That way, you figure out what works for you and what doesn't before deciding how to proceed.

Looking at his initial post, there isn't a single hint that he cares about the consequences; he just wants to try SOME kind of drug.
Honestly, forget this... I'll just sit here and dream about eating artichokes with young Bob Dylan... that sounds ten thousand times better than any trip could ever be!

hollowbison12 said:...man, I’ve had some really bad experiences with drugs. I tried weed and XTC once, and both were just awful; such a terrible feeling👎 ...so I haven't touched anything else since

...I remember taking some pills a few years back... I was about 17 at the time... it was not a good time; I just spiraled into this intense paranoia, convinced everyone was out to get me, like they wanted to jump me or rob me; I was even hallucinating... honestly, it was the worst three hours of my life!!!

What a load of garbage

Look, you have to actually know how to enjoy substances. It’s not just about taking a pill and waiting for it to hit. 🙏🙏🙏

crimsonbear23 said:I agree with the sentiment, but he wasn't actually looking for literature; he was asking for a recommendation on which high would be the best one.🙄
That’s entirely subjective, really. The most effective way to learn is through hands-on experience—you know, actually taking it. That way, you figure out what works for you and what doesn't before deciding how to proceed.

Looking at his initial post, there isn't a single hint that he cares about the consequences; he just wants to try SOME kind of drug.
Honestly, forget this... I'll just sit here and dream about eating artichokes with young Bob Dylan... that sounds ten thousand times better than any trip could ever be!

So what's your move then? Just blow him off and let him figure it out himself?