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Carl Sanders5 Carl Sanders5 Newcomer
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#201 ·
slyfox43 said:What on earth kind of cargo ships are we even talking about here?

Great old Lavrov and his cargo ships.
Unless he's straight-up lying, which doesn't even make sense—what would he even gain from lying about this? 🤷
Btw, it's pretty hilarious how he starts the video by throwing international treaties in our faces. 🤣
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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#202 ·
Carl Sanders5 said:Great old Lavrov and his cargo ships.
Unless he's straight-up lying, which doesn't even make sense—what would he even gain from lying about this? 🤷
Btw, it's pretty hilarious how he starts the video by throwing international treaties in our faces. 🤣

Given that the Ukrainian ports are currently mined, blockaded, or under occupation, one has to wonder about the logistics of how these cargo vessels actually reach their destination.

Taking Lavrov at face value is...
Adam Lee13 Adam Lee13 Active Member
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#203 ·
The Americans haven't sent any weapons to Ukraine in almost 3 weeks and have delivered only one fifth of what they promised.

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1505158157596823556?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1505158157596823556%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

They're honestly pretty gross; you can practically see them praying to God that Ukraine falls as fast as possible.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#204 ·
So, here’s something that’ll really get your blood pumping. Beyond the fact that Germany is basically funneling billions over to Russia, since back in 2014, they—along with a handful of other absolute idiots across Europe (and let me tell you, this continent is crawling with them)—have actually been shipping weapons directly to the Russians. Yeah, you heard me right. They're straight-up ignoring the embargoes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...spite-ban.html
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#205 ·
Adam Lee13 said:The Americans haven't sent any weapons to Ukraine in almost 3 weeks and have delivered only one fifth of what they promised.

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1505158157596823556?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1505158157596823556%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

They're honestly pretty gross; you can practically see them praying to God that Ukraine falls as fast as possible.

I caught this statement from the German side, and honestly, it looks like the situation within the US Armed Forces is so pathetic that they basically have nothing left to send to Ukraine without leaving themselves totally naked.🤦
It's pretty obvious they took a few pointers from Russia on how to "manage" military inventory.
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
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#206 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:Anyone can pull up FlightRadar24, head over to southeastern New York near Buffalo, and watch a dozen transport planes touch down there every single day. From there, the supplies get loaded onto trucks, trains, or cars and shipped straight into Ukraine. The Russians just can't seem to shut that border down...

But do you really think those heavy military transports carrying the most expensive, high-tech gear are actually going there?
I'm pretty sure they just kill the transponders and touch down at some tiny, obscure airfields all over Romania, Slovakia, Canada, and Poland... maybe they even cross right into Ukraine directly...
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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#207 ·
Timothy Nelson5 said:But do you really think those heavy military transports carrying the most expensive, high-tech gear are actually going there?
I'm pretty sure they just kill the transponders and touch down at some tiny, obscure airfields all over Romania, Slovakia, Canada, and Poland... maybe they even cross right into Ukraine directly...

It’s not a coincidence that their transponders are off—that's the message right there.

They land in Buffalo quite often since it’s convenient being so close, plus Poland is definitely the most willing to provide direct support.
silverfalcon5 silverfalcon5 Newcomer
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#208 ·
hollowdriver13 As stated by Gerald Chavez7:
I recently came across a statement from the German side, and it seems the situation within the US Armed Forces is so dire that they practically have nothing left to send to Ukraine without leaving themselves completely exposed. 🤦
It appears they have also taken lessons from the Russians on how to "manage" their military inventory.

Back in 2018, out of America's 128 F-35 jets, only 39 were actually capable of taking flight. Due to coolant leaks affecting the sensors, only 10 of those 39 aircraft had functioning defense systems, and they only carried missiles for four of them.

I sincerely hope they have recovered since then.

It is deeply concerning to note that only 4 of America's 128 F-35 jets are currently combat ready.

The US Air Force has only four combat-ready F-35 jets regarding this.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#209 ·
hollowdriver13 said:I caught this statement from the German side, and honestly, it looks like the situation within the US Armed Forces is so pathetic that they basically have nothing left to send to Ukraine without leaving themselves totally naked.🤦
It's pretty obvious they took a few pointers from Russia on how to "manage" military inventory.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: the bottom line is that Germany needs to stop actively sabotaging Ukraine.

None of them are actually looking for help, and honestly, nobody truly believes they’re on Ukraine's side anyway.
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
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#210 ·
Most of this military aid isn't even moving through the official border crossings anymore; they've built entirely new supply routes to handle it. Drivers and all personnel are strictly forbidden from carrying cell phones or any kind of electronic gear. Even official photographers have to keep geolocation turned off on their cameras—I’m talking about the guys documenting the convoys, not just random trucks. Before anything gets posted online, intelligence services vet every single shot, which basically makes the footage useless because you can't spot a single house or landmark in them.

Plus, the locations are being shifted around daily.
Just tell me how Russia is supposed to intercept this at a specific spot if we're talking, say, 10 trucks in a row.
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Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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#211 ·
wearytrucker22 said:Most of this military aid isn't even moving through the official border crossings anymore; they've built entirely new supply routes to handle it. Drivers and all personnel are strictly forbidden from carrying cell phones or any kind of electronic gear. Even official photographers have to keep geolocation turned off on their cameras—I’m talking about the guys documenting the convoys, not just random trucks. Before anything gets posted online, intelligence services vet every single shot, which basically makes the footage useless because you can't spot a single house or landmark in them.

Plus, the locations are being shifted around daily.
Just tell me how Russia is supposed to intercept this at a specific spot if we're talking, say, 10 trucks in a row.
Ukraine
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And they’re utilizing the rail lines to their full advantage, too.😉
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
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#212 ·
silverfalcon5 said:
hollowdriver13 As stated by Gerald Chavez7:
I recently came across a statement from the German side, and it seems the situation within the US Armed Forces is so dire that they practically have nothing left to send to Ukraine without leaving themselves completely exposed. 🤦
It appears they have also taken lessons from the Russians on how to "manage" their military inventory.

Back in 2018, out of America's 128 F-35 jets, only 39 were actually capable of taking flight. Due to coolant leaks affecting the sensors, only 10 of those 39 aircraft had functioning defense systems, and they only carried missiles for four of them.

I sincerely hope they have recovered since then.

It is deeply concerning to note that only 4 of America's 128 F-35 jets are currently combat ready.

The US Air Force has only four combat-ready F-35 jets regarding this.

Regarding this...
I guess you have to wonder what kind of state the Russian jets are in, considering they have about seven times as many as the Americans, and the Russian military budget is only just a little bit higher...
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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#213 ·
Timothy Nelson5 said:Regarding this...
I guess you have to wonder what kind of state the Russian jets are in, considering they have about seven times as many as the Americans, and the Russian military budget is only just a little bit higher...

An American jet won't fly if its scheduled maintenance is overdue by just five days and an hour instead of a flat five—those numbers are clearly exaggerated, obviously. A Russian one? It'll fly regardless...
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#214 ·
Another round of aid hitting the table

United Kingdom - 6,000 anti-tank projectiles
Sweden - 5,000 anti-tank projectiles, plus some AT4s
Germany - 2,000 anti-tank projectiles
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#215 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:Anyone can pull up FlightRadar24, head over to southeastern New York near Buffalo, and watch a dozen transport planes touch down there every single day. From there, the supplies get loaded onto trucks, trains, or cars and shipped straight into Ukraine. The Russians just can't seem to shut that border down...

In my estimation, the logistics have shifted into a different gear entirely.
casualtiger2 casualtiger2 Regular
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#216 ·
Carl Lee27 said:Another round of aid hitting the table

United Kingdom - 6,000 anti-tank projectiles
Sweden - 5,000 anti-tank projectiles, plus some AT4s
Germany - 2,000 anti-tank projectiles

That’s 13,000 anti-tank rounds—not even counting what they already have in stock.
Why on earth do they need that many when Russia doesn't even have that many tanks left?
Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
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#217 ·
casualtiger2 said:That’s 13,000 anti-tank rounds—not even counting what they already have in stock.
Why on earth do they need that many when Russia doesn't even have that many tanks left?

Look, they're probably just wiping out every single armored vehicle in sight. Plus, you have to wonder how many shots it actually takes to land a hit—I highly doubt it's a perfect 1:1 ratio.
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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#218 ·
casualtiger2 said:That’s 13,000 anti-tank rounds—not even counting what they already have in stock.
Why on earth do they need that many when Russia doesn't even have that many tanks left?

For crying out loud, if we follow that ridiculous logic, they wouldn't need more than 150,000 rounds of ammunition total!🤔
LP
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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#219 ·
Nihil said:They’ve decided to pull that classic Russian war tactic of playing the victim, acting all high and mighty with the "you don't have enough... what can we possibly send?" routine. Now they're pivoting to claim you guys don't have nearly as many tanks as they have missiles—missiles they have in such massive quantities that they're wasting them just hitting supply trucks with anti-tank rounds. 😬

Oh yeah, why don't you just go ahead and hop in one of those Kamaz supply trucks carrying food for the troops? You know, the ones where the truck and its cargo are worth maybe ten grand, but they'll be raining down a rocket on you worth $150,000. 🤔

There are plenty of reasons for a Russian soldier to stop and think twice.
Best,
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#220 ·
Zelensky at the NATO summit—we’re looking for unlimited support
Americans and the public—anti-ship missiles for Ukraine?

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