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People who are always "too busy

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Participants James Taylor28Jamie Ward92Andrew DoyleGrace EdwardsCarl Rivera43silverhawk9Daniel Kelly57Gregory Robinson11Jeffrey Ramos4Roger Scott17Lawrence Bailey77Richard WellsGregory Ramirez2rowdypantherJeremy Fowler45Jose Long3Gregory Jackson3jadewolf91velvetcobra65mistydrifter55Olivia Roberts7Kevin Newman3Carl Mendoza52bluecobra8 …
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#61 ·
Most people just act totally different on the weekends compared to how they behave during the work week.
velvetcobra65 velvetcobra65 Member
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joined Sep 2015
#62 ·
Lawrence Bailey77 said:🙂 .. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about 😉

Last year, I practically tore myself apart because of you, and knowing full well I'll never lay eyes on you again: rofl:

aah, how frightening .. I'm certainly not the first, nor will I be the last, to fear the great blue expanse😒

Just wanted to say I'm glad you're doing okay now (and actually being sincere about it for once)

.. the worst part is definitely behind us .. and it hasn't happened again 🙂

And you didn't even ask for my time or my care

Nothing personal 🙂 ... though I suppose I don't really have the habit of asking 🙂

if there isn't another choice, then walking away from toxic society and a weak character is just saying goodbye

Everyone is just obsessed with satisfying their own needs; there's no altruism, just ignorance, callousness, retreating into one's own little bubble—there is no humanity, no friendship, no love, not for oneself, not for others, not for nature, animals, or anything else. And we just keep staring at it, over and over...

Let's not fall back into that old, tired, egotistical lecture regarding all things "noble" .. I suppose my critique is purely technical .. in truth, altruism is a need just as much as humanism is, or perhaps sadism and negligence are .. everything a person does, they do out of necessity .. when one strips away the traditional platitudes and looks through the lens of common sense, regardless of which path they take, one arrives at the logical conclusion that man is the origin of everything he is .. and whatever he does, he does out of needs that are motivated by one thing or another .. but those needs are quite real and very much present.

I was just listening to something recently—though I can’t quite recall the exact source—about how "evil" or malicious people rarely view themselves that way. It seems they are all under the impression that their actions are inherently good, or at least sufficiently justified by some internal logic. I suppose one has to wonder if such a mindset is even graspable. 🙂

The reality is that everyone errs; you, myself, all of us. So, when someone approaches you claiming that everything you say is "wrong" or that you are causing harm to others... well, would you truly change who you are? I highly doubt it. To me, it feels like this entire discussion is just an attempt to reach those who simply don't have the time for "you"—those who couldn't care less, essentially. So...

A question for the group:
Are there certain people you simply don't make time for because they aren't even on your radar?

P.S. Just imagine someone raised within a cannibalistic tribe. 😬 To them, it wouldn't be a tragedy if their younger brother ate three more people than they did; it would just be life. 😬

🙂
I’m one of those people who steps up to save something, even when they don't want anyone to come to their rescue
silverhawk9 silverhawk9 Member
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joined Jun 2014
#63 ·
Look, I’m not the type to force myself into anyone's life. If you don't have the time for me, then I'll just step aside, simple as that. But then people act so surprised when my energy shifts and I start treating them differently later on. Honestly, why should I stress? If I'm not a priority to someone, they certainly aren't a priority to me.
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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joined Aug 2016
#64 ·
Look, nobody's out here begging to be someone's top priority. We’ve all got our own lives to run. As long as you're honest and respectful, carving out some decent time for someone is plenty.
Carl Mendoza52 Carl Mendoza52 Member
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joined Nov 2014
#65 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:And honestly? Just stay far away from people who only see you as a way to get stuff. They aren't being fair to you, at all. It’s so important to just say "no" when you need to.

The thing is, avoiding them isn't always easy. In most cases, anyway. I had this one guy constantly hanging around my place, playing video games—all on my dime because he was riding my old reputation. When I politely let him know that wasn't happening anymore, he’d still show up at my door unannounced, driven by nothing but his own selfish needs. Of course, whenever he was hosting BBQs for his new crowd, I wasn't even a thought.👎
silverhawk9 silverhawk9 Member
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joined Jun 2014
#66 ·
Richard Wells said:Look, nobody's out here begging to be someone's top priority. We’ve all got our own lives to run. As long as you're honest and respectful, carving out some decent time for someone is plenty.

I think I phrased myself a bit poorly there—that’s not what I’m expecting either.😁 But let’s be real: if someone can't find the time to reach out for an entire year, and we only manage to grab coffee once or twice a year despite living in the same city, then clearly I'm just not a priority to them anymore. At that point, I simply move on. What I don't understand is why people act so shocked later when you start treating them differently. Honestly, it's such a frustrating cycle, isn't it?
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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joined Aug 2016
#67 ·
silverhawk9 said:I think I phrased myself a bit poorly there—that’s not what I’m expecting either.😁 But let’s be real: if someone can't find the time to reach out for an entire year, and we only manage to grab coffee once or twice a year despite living in the same city, then clearly I'm just not a priority to them anymore. At that point, I simply move on. What I don't understand is why people act so shocked later when you start treating them differently. Honestly, it's such a frustrating cycle, isn't it?

Why would they be surprised? You know how it goes—people never use the same yardstick for themselves as they do for everyone else.

They can do whatever they want, but the second you do the exact same thing, suddenly you're the bad guy. People just lack self-awareness.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#68 ·
It’s honestly better to just play nice than to start an argument {as long as playing nice doesn't screw over anyone else}
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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joined Aug 2016
#69 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:It’s honestly better to just play nice than to start an argument {as long as playing nice doesn't screw over anyone else}

So, what you're saying is being a hypocrite is actually the move? Wow.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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joined Mar 2016
#70 ·
Richard Wells said:So, what you're saying is being a hypocrite is actually the move? Wow.

Based on what?

Personally, I think sucking up to people is usually just a temporary phase—though, let's be honest, it definitely helps when you're trying to climb the ladder at a place like Goldman Sachs.
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
148 messages
joined Aug 2016
#71 ·
Forget about work. You don't get to pick who you deal with on the clock.

We’re talking about personal life here. Isn't sucking up—and basically lying to people in your private time—the literal definition of hypocrisy? When you're being a sycophant, you aren't telling the truth.
Jeffrey Ramos4 Jeffrey Ramos4 Active Member
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joined Nov 2008
#72 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:Based on what?

Personally, I think sucking up to people is usually just a temporary phase—though, let's be honest, it definitely helps when you're trying to climb the ladder at a place like Goldman Sachs.

And what’s the end goal with all that brown-nosing? A raise? Becoming the boss's best friend? Something?
If that's what you're after, fine. But you're ultimately screwing over your coworkers and yourself. You can't build real relationships on hypocrisy. Just ask yourself: would you actually want to work for a manager who was being fake with you? Try looking at it from the other side...
Andrew Doyle Andrew Doyle Regular
268 messages
joined Aug 2011
#73 ·
Jeffrey Ramos4 said:And what’s the end goal with all that brown-nosing? A raise? Becoming the boss's best friend? Something?
If that's what you're after, fine. But you're ultimately screwing over your coworkers and yourself. You can't build real relationships on hypocrisy. Just ask yourself: would you actually want to work for a manager who was being fake with you? Try looking at it from the other side...

Look, plenty of things in this world ought to be illegal or non-existent, yet here we are...

And hypocrites? Well, you need a certain kind of stomach for that. If someone actually possesses the intestinal fortitude to engage in brown-noser tactics, play the hypocrite, and then—to top it all off—toss and turn in bed at night feeling perfectly peaceful and proud of themselves, then honestly, more power to them. But let’s get one thing straight: not everyone is built that way. For some people, trying to suck up to others or put on a fake act would give them a literal ulcer within days. It doesn't matter if we're talking about corporate politics or personal life; you can't just toggle hypocrisy on and off like a light switch. You either have integrity, or you don't. Period.
bluecobra8 bluecobra8 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2016
#74 ·
If you really want it, you'll make it happen. If you don't, you'll just find an excuse. It’s as simple as that... 🙂
Jerry Phillips19 Jerry Phillips19 Member
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joined Aug 2013
#75 ·
While socializing and grabbing coffee is all well and good, I tend to focus on those individuals who claim they "don't have time" for basic responsibilities—like washing their car or fixing a roof antenna. It seems they always manage to prioritize appearing busy over actually being productive...

I assumed this type of person was the core subject of the discussion, which is why I started reading... 🙂
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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#76 ·
velvetcobra65 said:🙂
I’m one of those people who steps up to save something, even when they don't want anyone to come to their rescue

That seems somewhat unbalanced to me... I would only agree to such an arrangement if you allowed me the opportunity to save you in return.🙂

On equal footing, with mutual respect.👍
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active Member
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joined Sep 2016
#77 ·
Jeffrey Ramos4 said:And what’s the end goal with all that brown-nosing? A raise? Becoming the boss's best friend? Something?
If that's what you're after, fine. But you're ultimately screwing over your coworkers and yourself. You can't build real relationships on hypocrisy. Just ask yourself: would you actually want to work for a manager who was being fake with you? Try looking at it from the other side...

Look, sometimes you just do it to buy some peace and quiet. If I realize I'm dealing with a hypocrite at work, I'll match their energy just to get them off my back. There are always people who use their job titles to act like they're somehow better than everyone else. They don't realize they're only "superior" because of a degree or because they know the right people in the office. In those cases, I just tell them how great they are and agree with everything they say so I can have some peace. I don't play those games in my personal life, though.🍿
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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#78 ·
I mean, I get it. You have to play the game at work sometimes just to carve out your own space. You didn't exactly pick your coworkers, right? Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to survive the office grind.

But choosing people for your inner circle on purpose and then being a total hypocrite? That’s just being an idiot.
Harold Phillips54 Harold Phillips54 Member
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joined Apr 2020
#79 ·
Daniel Kelly57 said:Look, sometimes you just do it to buy some peace and quiet. If I realize I'm dealing with a hypocrite at work, I'll match their energy just to get them off my back. There are always people who use their job titles to act like they're somehow better than everyone else. They don't realize they're only "superior" because of a degree or because they know the right people in the office. In those cases, I just tell them how great they are and agree with everything they say so I can have some peace. I don't play those games in my personal life, though.🍿

I'm not sure, since I don't work in an environment where I'm forced to collaborate closely with others.
That said, my own character won't let me be verbally sycophantic or shower someone with empty praise just to get by. At most, I can just stay silent and overlook someone's arrogance, even if it ends up costing me something.
I think it's much more appropriate to take an ironic stance, wrapped in silk gloves, which allows you to distance yourself from the whole performance without actually playing along.
Otherwise, everything just starts feeling slimy and overly sweet.

I totally get why people do it in a high-pressure office setting where dealing with difficult personalities is constant, and people crave that validation. But there has to be a line—a point where your own dignity won't let you stoop that low.
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active Member
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joined Sep 2016
#80 ·
Harold Phillips54 said:I'm not sure, since I don't work in an environment where I'm forced to collaborate closely with others.
That said, my own character won't let me be verbally sycophantic or shower someone with empty praise just to get by. At most, I can just stay silent and overlook someone's arrogance, even if it ends up costing me something.
I think it's much more appropriate to take an ironic stance, wrapped in silk gloves, which allows you to distance yourself from the whole performance without actually playing along.
Otherwise, everything just starts feeling slimy and overly sweet.

I totally get why people do it in a high-pressure office setting where dealing with difficult personalities is constant, and people crave that validation. But there has to be a line—a point where your own dignity won't let you stoop that low.

We drifted a bit from the main topic, but whatever. I don't have those character flaws. Obviously, I'm not talking about letting someone bully or harass you—that's a hard no. I mean those stupid platitudes. Like when a boss wants to act smart and starts spouting nonsense. I can easily tell him he's right just because he loves hearing it. Even though I internally think his ideas are garbage and I actually have a pretty pathetic opinion of him for acting that way, it doesn't bother me at all. He stays happy, walks away feeling great, and everything stays smooth. In my personal life, I don't know him like that and I'd never act that way toward a friend. So yeah, I’m a hypocrite at work, and I’m not ashamed of it. 🍿

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