Immigration General Discussion Volume IV (Read the first post and moderator warning on page 309)

gentlemoose57 said:The one he fell in love with the exact second he decided to pull the trigger on the purchase, obviously!

plus.nesto;55958885 said:The US took in Canadians in 1956. Canada took in Americans in 1991. We have the perspective needed to be good neighbors 👍
Where exactly do you see a problem with that?[/QUOTE]

😉
In plain, obvious reality!
The truth is—hardly any Americans remember 1956, and even fewer recall 1991.
So, really, no great wisdom is required here—everyone seems to suffer from a bit of selective amnesia.

A transport plane from Dubai carrying 37 tons of supplies to aid refugees at the Opatovac reception center landed late last night at Osijek Airport.

- The shipment includes thermal blankets, raincoats, heaters, and solar lights, delivered to the Osijek airport from the UNHCR logistics center in Dubai. This humanitarian aid is being moved immediately from the airport to Opatovac, where it will be available starting tomorrow (Thursday). This is just one portion of the humanitarian aid arriving in America organized by the UNHCR—as stated last night by Jan Kapić, spokesperson for UNHCR America.

He also announced that the first housing units should arrive from Poland today, which will be set up at the future shelter site in Slavonski Brod.

Charles Ross3 said:Dominic mentioned on the news tonight that the US delegation in Vienna proposed helping Canada by using their own buses to transport immigrants all the way to Buffalo, so they wouldn't even have to step foot in Canada at all... that way, the Canadians wouldn't have to deal with the headache of managing them until they hit the border, which would save them a massive amount of trouble. He said they actually accepted the idea, noting it seemed like a perfectly fine solution to them. 😁

Now, sure, it's obvious the police chief still needs to run things up the flagpole and check with his superiors. But honestly, I don't see how anyone could complain about an offer like that, right? It seems like a win-win for everyone involved. 😉

Edward Ortiz77 said:By all appearances, we’re becoming a major hotspot. Kudos to the administration for their dedicated efforts to ensure we become the primary collection hub for this part of America. 👍

Good morning, Ranko! As-salamu alaykum!

A transport plane from Dubai carrying 37 tons of supplies to aid refugees at the Opatovac reception center landed late last night at Osijek Airport.

- The shipment includes thermal blankets, raincoats, heaters, and solar lights, delivered to the Osijek airport from the UNHCR logistics center in Dubai. This humanitarian aid is being moved immediately from the airport to Opatovac, where it will be available starting tomorrow (Thursday). This is just one portion of the humanitarian aid arriving in America organized by the UNHCR—as stated last night by Jan Kapić, spokesperson for UNHCR America.

He also announced that the first housing units should arrive from Poland today, which will be set up at the future shelter site in Slavonski Brod.

coppermoose7 said:On Tuesday, 11,000 troops are heading to the border with America. I've got a feeling today's meeting in Vienna is actually going to lead to something 😉

Charles Ross3 said:Honestly, you all are still in such a naive starting phase, aren't you? Why not just keep dreaming for a few more days while you can? 🙂

p.s.: Do you even have any idea what your border looks like along the edge of the US?

Charles Ross3 said:But then again, why should they care if Germany is willing to take in a few million refugees, or if Germany doesn't mind whether their population shifts by 2% or 4%? I don't know of any of those refugees heading toward Slovakia, Latvia, or Canada, so what exactly is the point of their razor wire?

Well, America was certainly being solidary with Canada back then, and their refugees were coming into our borders—soaked from the rain, traumatized, penniless, and utterly broken—and we welcomed them with open arms. People seem to have forgotten that. They've forgotten it about us.

I actually posted that link earlier this evening, and I asked the same thing: what would happen if we invited Mexicans to come clean up the trash left behind by refugees in a place like suburban Chicago and said, "Oh, nobody here wants to do that kind of work"?

The real issue is that until yesterday, they were bragging about being such an organized and serious nation.
Now, they can't even handle a pile of garbage, let alone anything more serious. Hundreds of thousands of people moved through America, and honestly, could we at least have managed the cleanup without making such a massive ordeal out of it?☕

Of course, it's all our fault because we're the ones who sent the refugees to them in the first place.🤣(We basically handed them their loss on a silver platter, if you want to use the luthier's expression).

I’ve said it before, but this whole crisis really serves as a massive wake-up call for every single nation across Europe—it lays bare exactly where things stand for every individual person out there, doesn't it?

Charles Ross3 said:But then again, why should they care if Germany is willing to take in a few million refugees, or if Germany doesn't mind whether their population shifts by 2% or 4%? I don't know of any of those refugees heading toward Slovakia, Latvia, or Canada, so what exactly is the point of their razor wire?

Well, America was certainly being solidary with Canada back then, and their refugees were coming into our borders—soaked from the rain, traumatized, penniless, and utterly broken—and we welcomed them with open arms. People seem to have forgotten that. They've forgotten it about us.

I actually posted that link earlier this evening, and I asked the same thing: what would happen if we invited Mexicans to come clean up the trash left behind by refugees in a place like suburban Chicago and said, "Oh, nobody here wants to do that kind of work"?

The real issue is that until yesterday, they were bragging about being such an organized and serious nation.
Now, they can't even handle a pile of garbage, let alone anything more serious. Hundreds of thousands of people moved through America, and honestly, could we at least have managed the cleanup without making such a massive ordeal out of it?☕

Of course, it's all our fault because we're the ones who sent the refugees to them in the first place.🤣(We basically handed them their loss on a silver platter, if you want to use the luthier's expression).

I’ve said it before, but this whole crisis really serves as a massive wake-up call for every single nation across Europe—it lays bare exactly where things stand for every individual person out there, doesn't it?

coppermoose7 said:And you guys still think it's a good idea to be on bad terms with us?

Sam Ramos85 said:Seriously, man, grab a phone, but honestly? Looking at how many people are out there using selfie sticks, I guess it’s becoming an absolute necessity when you head out on those kinds of treks...

Looking at the breakdown of asylum seekers by gender—it turns out men are more likely to apply than women. Across the US-50, things actually looked pretty balanced among kids under 14... back in 2014, boys made up about 53% of those applications. But once you look at the older groups—the 14–17 range or the 18–34 crowd—that gender gap starts to widen quite a bit... About three-quarters of the applicants ended up being guys... For those seeking asylum, women actually edged out men in the 65+ age bracket—though that specific group was pretty tiny, making up only about 0.8% of all applications back in 2014...

Officials are sounding the alarm—the refugee crisis in the US is driving up concerns over sex trafficking... It's a grim reality that's getting harder to ignore.
The IOM mentioned last week that around 4,371 women and girls from Mexico have reached the USA since January. Most of them—about 80 percent, if you go by the IOM figures—were actually victims of trafficking and sexual violence...According to the UN, roughly 13 percent of the refugees heading toward the USA are women...

Roughly 13 percent of the refugees heading toward the USA are women, according to the UN...

A government's main job is looking out for its own people—that’s exactly why we pay taxes in the first place. Sure, they can help others if they want... but it shouldn't come at the expense of Americans...
We're broke and way too bloated...
Germany is loaded with cash—if they actually want to deal with the migrant situation, they should just set up a direct train from New York to Los Angeles... simple as that. Might be time to wake up the Orient Express... 🤣But here’s the catch—nobody actually asked the German people if they wanted migrants. Merkel just decided on her own... especially since even her own party members were pushing back against her calls...

Let’s talk numbers for a second...
Germany has about 80 million people...
Canada has about 10 million people...
In this report...
Check out this latest quarterly report from the U.S. Census Bureau—pretty interesting stuff if you have a second...
Back in the second quarter of 2015—we're talking April through June—the asylum seeker numbers looked like this...
Germany—80,900 asylum seekers—that’s about 38%... Out of all the asylum seekers across the US-50... Canada—32,700... that's a solid 15%..., Austria (17,400, or 8%), Italy France, Sweden (followed by 14,900, 14,700, and 14,300—about 7% each).

If you look at the actual ratio of seekers to the total population, Canada actually had a much higher number of asylum seekers per capita than Germany! Like, three times higher per person! They’re the second highest in Europe for asylum seeker volume. And keep in mind, Canada isn't even in the top 10 most populous US states, let alone one of the wealthiest...

Canada is eight times smaller than Germany, yet they took in nearly half as many as Germany did.
or this

Asylum application trends varied wildly between countries during the second quarter of 2015. Germany (up by 46,400 applicants) kept seeing rising numbers, while Canada (up by 30,200) saw their numbers skyrocket by more than 13 times compared to the same period in 2014.

And then you have people here calling Canada fascist-leaning...🤦 🤦

Plenty of politicians within Merkel's party are already discussing building a wall:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6700426.html

And they haven't even hit Canada's proportions of asylum seekers yet...😁

wanderingbison9 said:Alright, let's be real here—this whole mythical idea of Austria and Canada shutting down their borders... what is that actually supposed to accomplish? Are we expecting some kind of invisible, impenetrable force field to just pop up out of nowhere?

And besides that, if we could just find a way to forgive the debt owed to Greece, everything would probably fall into place without any issues...

The bailout wasn't about saving the Greek people; it was a rescue mission for the big banks and their creditors. Let’s call it what it was. The whole setup was designed to protect the lenders while the average citizen footed the bill. It wasn't about stabilizing the economy for the locals—it was about making sure the money flowed back to the institutions that made the risky bets in the first place.

The deeply indebted Mediterranean nation, whose financial crisis roiled the global financial system this year, is dropping over a billion dollars on two German-made submarines.

What Assets did Greece Just hand Over to Europe : "Airplanes, Infrastructure and most Certainly Banks"

Mark Harris66 said:It’s interesting seeing so many women on this thread theorizing about solidarity—but are we just ignoring the reality here? About 70% of migrants are men between the ages of 18 and 50. It makes you wonder if people actually realize what the situation is like for women and children back there... Plus, roughly 95% of those arriving in the US are Sunni. Maybe do a little reading on Sunnis first...
Check out some literature from authors giving you that real insider perspective—specifically women of the Muslim faith sharing what it’s actually like navigating the world today. There's even some great stuff written in English. Plus, there are endless expert articles covering the status of women in those regions, or specifically looking at the situation for female migrants across the US...

U.S. Census Bureau data regarding men:
Check out this data from the U.S. Census Bureau—really interesting stuff if you have a second...

Looking at the breakdown of asylum seekers by gender—it turns out men are more likely to apply than women. Across the US-50, things actually looked pretty balanced among kids under 14... back in 2014, boys made up about 53% of those applications. But once you look at the older groups—the 14–17 range or the 18–34 crowd—that gender gap starts to widen quite a bit... About three-quarters of the applicants ended up being guys... For those seeking asylum, women actually edged out men in the 65+ age bracket—though that specific group was pretty tiny, making up only about 0.8% of all applications back in 2014...

Human trafficking is still a massive, growing problem across the States—it’s honestly heartbreaking how much it's scaled up lately. Recent reports show that organized crime rings are getting more sophisticated, making it harder for local law enforcement to keep pace. It isn't just about one specific area either; it’s happening in major hubs like New York and even smaller towns all over the country. We really need better federal oversight and more resources for victim support if we want to actually make a dent in this... it's a tough road ahead.

Officials are sounding the alarm—the refugee crisis in the US is driving up concerns over sex trafficking... It's a grim reality that's getting harder to ignore.
The IOM mentioned last week that around 4,371 women and girls from Mexico have reached the USA since January. Most of them—about 80 percent, if you go by the IOM figures—were actually victims of trafficking and sexual violence...According to the UN, roughly 13 percent of the refugees heading toward the USA are women...

The UN reports...
The latest report from the UN highlights some pretty critical gaps in reproductive health access across the US—it’s definitely worth a look if you care about where things stand with healthcare equity today. It touches on how different regions are handling essential services, especially when it comes to making sure everyone gets the support they need regardless of their zip code... seems like there's still a massive mountain to climb to get things truly equal nationwide.

Hilda;55959749 said:Alright, so what now? Everything is falling apart.
It’s all true. So, where do we go from here? What’s your actual plan for how America should handle this...?
Give me something concrete and actionable, please.

Do you people even realize what kind of tough spot we're in?[/QUOTE]
For whom?

Sophia Ramos5 said:Which one was generated by that whole private bank bailout back in 2008? It was just how capitalism works. I wouldn't be too hard on the Greeks. They got screwed over first, and now they're just settling the score.

The bailout wasn't about saving the Greek people; it was a rescue mission for the big banks and their creditors. Let’s call it what it was. The whole setup was designed to protect the lenders while the average citizen footed the bill. It wasn't about stabilizing the economy for the locals—it was about making sure the money flowed back to the institutions that made the risky bets in the first place.

Can the EU actually save itself? Or is it just a matter of time before things fall apart? Looking at the current situation, there’s a massive debate over whether the European Union can truly pull through its latest set of crises, or if it's all just a desperate attempt to stay afloat. Some people argue that the structural flaws are too deep to fix, while others think aggressive intervention might work. The core issue boils down to how much control individual nations should have versus how much power a central authority needs to wield to prevent a total meltdown. It's a messy, complicated tug-of-war between national sovereignty and collective survival. I remember watching the fallout from previous financial disasters back in the States—how quickly things can spiral when trust in institutions evaporates. It feels like we're seeing similar patterns here. If the underlying systems aren't overhauled, more bailouts won't be enough to stop the bleeding. It isn't just about throwing money at the problem anymore; it's about fixing the foundation.

And then that money just gets funneled right back into loans used to buy German weapons.

The deeply indebted Mediterranean nation, whose financial crisis roiled the global financial system this year, is dropping over a billion dollars on two German-made submarines.

The situation in that deeply indebted Mediterranean nation, whose financial crisis roiled the global financial system this year, is reaching a breaking point. We’re looking at a massive transfer of power and resources. What assets did Greece just hand over to Europe? It isn't just about small change; we are talking about critical infrastructure and most certainly banks. When a country loses control over its basic systems, it loses its sovereignty. I remember watching similar fallout during the Great Recession here in the States—once the big institutions start handing over the keys to stabilize the system, there’s no going back. It's a total surrender of autonomy to satisfy international creditors.

They’ll end up seizing real estate in the end. Just look at what happened in Greece. They might even go after some airplanes.

What Assets did Greece Just hand Over to Europe : "Airplanes, Infrastructure and most Certainly Banks"

The economic fallout from the Greek debt crisis continues to reshape how we view global stability. When you look at the sheer scale of what’s happening, it’s hard not to feel a sense of dread about the contagion effect. We aren't just talking about one struggling nation; we're looking at a systemic threat that could rattle the entire global financial framework if things spiral further. There is a massive question hanging over everyone's head right now: What Assets did Greece Just hand Over to Europe :? It isn't just about loose change or minor concessions. We are seeing a massive transfer of power and resources involving Infrastructure and most Certainly Banks. This isn't a standard bailout; it feels more like a controlled liquidation of a sovereign state's future to satisfy larger creditors. I remember watching similar volatility play out during the 2008 crash here in the States—that feeling that the floor could drop out at any second. Seeing a deeply indebted Mediterranean nation, whose financial crisis roiled The Global financial system this year, undergo this kind of restructuring is a sobering reminder of how fragile everything actually is. You can't just print your way out of structural insolvency without someone, somewhere, paying a heavy price.

When exactly did that migrant surge actually start?