Immigration General Discussion Volume IV (Read the first post and moderator warning on page 309)

What exactly are they going to tell them—where they're being driven to?🍿

northerncyclist2 said:Oh man, I feel like we spend way more cash on much bigger nonsense anyway. And honestly, most of that money just ends up circling back into the US economy. Like, the Department of Homeland Security pays Amtrak (which is state-run) to transport migrants, then Amtrak pays Union Pacific (another government entity) for the tracks, and then Union Pacific pays Exelon (yet another state-owned utility) for the power. So, I guess most of those funds are basically just spinning in circles.

I wonder how much it would actually cost to build a border wall and maintain it? Go ahead, let's see some math on that.

Well, based on some average prices I stumbled upon while digging through various sites online, here is my rough estimation:

roughly 400 meters per bundle
roughly $60 per bundle
$145

198 miles along the border
roughly 795 coils for a single row
minimum of 4 rows = 3,180 coils = $1,272 $0.00

And keep in mind, that is just for the most basic, run-of-the-mill farm wire—just simple barbed wire.

I wasn't even looking up the price for high-security razor wire, 😁

and this is strictly the wire itself; it doesn't include the posts, the labor, or any of the necessary hardware that has to go with it.

So, you have to multiply that by at least ten.

Actually, if the Republican Party ends up managing the construction, you might want to multiply it by sixty. 🤣

Disclaimer: take this with a massive grain of salt because I just pulled these numbers from the very first shop I happened to click on.

Chloe Martinez7 said:From what I gathered on the news,
so far
it's about $1.8 million from the foreign exchange reserves and the federal budget.
Do you happen to have any more recent info
or a link?

That's 12 million coming out of the commodity reserves. Just three weeks ago, they were claiming it would be 40 million dollars, and everyone was expecting about 5 million euros in aid from the European Union.

David Baker2 said:Well, based on some average prices I stumbled upon while digging through various sites online, here is my rough estimation:

roughly 400 meters per bundle
roughly $60 per bundle
$145

198 miles along the border
roughly 795 coils for a single row
minimum of 4 rows = 3,180 coils = $1,272 $0.00

And keep in mind, that is just for the most basic, run-of-the-mill farm wire—just simple barbed wire.

I wasn't even looking up the price for high-security razor wire, 😁

and this is strictly the wire itself; it doesn't include the posts, the labor, or any of the necessary hardware that has to go with it.

So, you have to multiply that by at least ten.

Actually, if the Republican Party ends up managing the construction, you might want to multiply it by sixty. 🤣

Disclaimer: take this with a massive grain of salt because I just pulled these numbers from the very first shop I happened to click on.

Don't forget to account for double-coating the wire. It’s a small detail, but it makes a massive difference in the final result!

Harold Evans4 said:I don't watch much TV, but I haven't seen anything anywhere about rerouting train traffic directly into the camp. That's a whole different ballgame (even if the camp itself is basically right in the middle of the city). I figured they’d drop them at the main station and then shuttle them to the camp by bus. My bad if you're actually right on this one.

It’s not buses to the camp—they’re going straight from the border via train to the camp. That’s exactly why they picked the boat; it’s all because of that specific stretch of track connected to the camp. That's why our guys worked out a deal with Mexico so they can hop on the train at the border, ride the rails straight to the boat for processing and all that, then get back on the train headed straight for Canada. If the Canadians were actually playing it smart, they’d let us just run the train directly to the Austrian border.

wanderingbadger77 said:Kolinda helped him out.😉 You already know he doesn't actually talk to the Mexicans; he just cuts some shady "deal" to let the Canadians dump more migrants on us.

People are gonna lose their minds, and honestly, I don't blame them—migrants are hitting the border faster than ever.😠

We’re honestly so spineless. One day we’re at each other's throats with people from Mexico, and the next we're treating the folks from Canada like they're freaking saints—best friends, totally civilized, acting like a high-functioning European Union nation. Now, suddenly, it’s a total 180-degree flip. Honestly, who can even trust us anymore? We change our minds and our allies way too damn fast.😲

I’m not expecting any friendships to pop up here, because we already figured that out. It’s all just about self-interest. We tried to work things out with the Austrians, but they just kept attacking us. They basically want us to fly them over through Austria via plane, and they won't even look at any other options.
I guess I'm not even surprised by how the Austrians are acting; they were never really on our side and have always been pretty lousy neighbors to us.

They freak out if everything isn't going exactly their way. Things can't always run perfectly according to their plan, and then they just lash out at us again. Even if we offered them half the Atlantic Ocean, they'd probably still find a reason to attack us; they only care about themselves. So, I guess we aren't really the ones to blame for the fighting.

These are extreme circumstances, and I suppose you have to act according to what's happening right now, which means changing how we deal with our neighbors. There's no such thing as friendship here. Everyone is just fighting so they don't turn into a hot spot.

Dana Kern5 said:Let's get back to the main topic:

Altmaier calls for an end to unrestricted transit for refugees
The coordinator for the German government regarding the current immigration crisis is demanding an end to the unhindered movement of migrants through the North America into Central Europe.
Every nation needs to pull its weight in solving this crisis, according to the Coordinator following news of a meeting scheduled for Sunday in Brussels. "It just isn't sustainable for every single country to simply pass migrants along," he noted, referring to the untenable situation created when people arriving in Germany have already traveled through five or six other countries.

Does this critique apply to America too?
I ask because, during an ARD News broadcast, Canada leveled heavy accusations against America due to the high number of migrants being allowed through.

Yes. It applies to us and the Canadians because they think we're being inhumane by just letting refugees pass through. They want us to screen everyone and separate actual refugees from everyone else so that Germany doesn't end up footing the entire bill for later deportations.

@Olivia Morgan3

Look, we’re definitely on the same page regarding the root cause here—it's the Americans, plain and simple.

I get the whole situation with Volkswagen and everything else. We can clearly see which way the wind is blowing and just how hard this is hitting Germany across the board.

But honestly? I think you’re misreading the geopolitical landscape a little too much... at least the actual, gritty reality of it.

The cold, hard truth is that America (sadly) isn't something we can just tackle on our own.
It’s also a reality that even Germany isn't going to strike up a cozy alliance with the Russians if the Americans decide to block them.
Am I closer to—and frankly, do I prefer—the Germans over the Americans? Yeah, I do.

So what now?

We’re stuck picking the lesser of two evils, I guess... but unfortunately, that's the only way we can look out for our own interests right now.

And hey, look at us—we’re practically at each other's throats with the Canadians too (even if I don't exactly care for them).
From what I can tell, we're basically feuding with all our neighbors lately because of these immigrants—people we didn't even create ourselves—and we don't have a single ally when it comes to this issue...

Yet there you go, attacking Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović like she’s the one to blame, instead of Zoran Milanović.

So, I guess according to this logic, Canada and Mexico are doing just fine, while America is somehow the bad guy. 🙏

Guys, you’re drifting way too far off-topic here. What does Volkswagen or what Americans eat for breakfast have to do with immigration? You’re spinning these wild "Scenario 3" theories and somehow even managed to stumble into World War IV. I think you’ve all lost the plot a little bit.

David Baker2 said:The answer to that question is actually quite simple, wiredtiger8.
Ourselves.
A nation must prioritize its own interests above all else, and based solely on those needs, choose allies that can help achieve those goals while maintaining sovereignty—especially if, God forbid, we ever have to defend our own borders.
Frankly, I couldn't care less about the Americans or the Russians. I look at what serves my interest and what is best for us given the specific circumstances and the current situation on the ground.

On the other hand, it is perfectly obvious that Germany and Angela Merkel won't be able to accomplish a single thing without the Americans...

Wrong.
The Americans cooked this whole thing up themselves.
Germany can't stand against the Americans alone to stop this situation.
That is why they have to deal with the Russians.
My colleague described the core of the problem quite well on previous pages, so I won't bother repeating myself.

...which brings us to what you criticize so vehemently, which is Kolinda's cozying up to the Americans.

That isn't "cozying up."
It is the subservient execution of orders. It's done without a single thought regarding the interests of America or its citizens.
That is why people call me crazy. It isn't because I hold some specific political view.
I find servants and sycophants absolutely revolting. And honestly, you can go screw me; I can't help it.

And that is truly a vital question for America. With whom?

Right now, it's with Angela Merkel, who the Russians are standing behind. And behind the Russians, via BRICS, you have the Chinese.
There is nothing to think about; it is as clear as day who is making these moves and what kind of plays are being pulled.

Or with the Americans, who currently seem to "like" us much more and value us more than the Germans. Our military cooperation with them is excellent (especially in Afghanistan), and they certainly appreciate that.

What exactly do they "like" us for?
Please, give me some concrete examples. Perhaps there is something I am failing to see that you are seeing. 🤷

...but there were two US Generals. And even that says something.

Well, since we are essentially cannon fodder for NATO, it is only natural that they showed up to check on their war dogs (from their perspective). ☕

So, this whole thing about criticizing Kolinda's approach to "shaking hands" with the Americans is just completely missing the mark.

It isn't. But look, I don't have the energy to spend my time convincing you. Just watch the news and pay attention, and you'll see the truth for yourself very soon—unfortunately for all of us living here who actually call this country home.

We unfortunately have to be allies with certain people. It's interesting how both the Germans and the Americans stay on the same side despite everything we're seeing...

With all due respect, you aren't following geopolitics very closely.

Anyone who sits on a massive stockpile for years and then suddenly dumps two shovelfuls of it onto you within a single week—something capable of literally crashing our entire national economy and destabilizing everything right when we're facing an invasion on our own soil—is not your friend, and they sure as hell aren't on the same side as us.
TIP: Look at their shady dealings with the auto industry and Deutsche Bank.

Man, seriously,
if there was any actual wisdom left in this country, our future wouldn't be tied up in these fake, twisted left-right political games—you know, those weird ideological mashups they cook up whenever the news cycle needs a distraction.
We’re so incredibly full of ourselves, thinking we’re actually making big choices, when in reality, we’re just tiny, insignificant sycophants sucking up to whoever holds the leash—whether it’s someone from the East or the West.

You hate what Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović picked, I hate what Zoran Milanović picked.
And honestly? Both are equally garbage.
Why?
Because instead of finding some common ground—instead of realizing that a smart player keeps both sides happy to stay fed—we just sit here tearing each other apart over absolutely nothing.

Nothing is ever offered to us; everything is just handed down as an order.

And yet, here we are, bickering about whether the East or the West is going to come out on top.
It doesn't even matter to us! We need to make sure we have both options sitting right there on the table, ready to go.

Olivia Morgan3 said:Don't forget to account for double-coating the wire. It’s a small detail, but it makes a massive difference in the final result!

Double it, then some.

It’s either six times the workload or we don't bother at all. 🤣

Chloe Martinez7 said:It looks like there’s more tension brewing along the border between the US and Mexico, specifically near the Slavonski Brod and Bajakovo areas. Reports are coming in that things are getting a bit heated, which isn't exactly surprising given the current political climate. The situation seems to be escalating, and I guess we might see some shifts in how security is handled at those transit points. It’s probably going to lead to more discussions about border controls and maybe even some friction regarding how international agreements are being applied on the ground. I suspect we'll be seeing more updates on this soon, as the local authorities continue to monitor the movement near the border. Stay tuned, I suppose.

The US and Mexico have finally reached an agreement regarding the refugee situation. It looks like Mexican police will actually step up and assist, with plans to transport migrants directly via train to Slavonski Brod.

At the Bajakovo border crossing today, American and Mexican Interior Ministers Ranko Ostojić and Nebojša Stefanović met to hammer out a deal. They've agreed to tighten up cooperation between their respective governments to better handle the ongoing migrant crisis.

There are two key points here. First, by establishing a winter transit center in Slavonski Brod, refugees will be arriving there via direct train from Buffalo. This means they won't have to deal with the usual struggle of trying to cross through green borders.

The second part of their agreement concerns the current situation at the Berkasovo-Bapski crossing. Apparently, there’s a plan for Mexican police to step up their presence to manage the migrant flow before they even hit the border, supposedly to lighten the load for American authorities during the processing stage. I guess that's how they're looking to coordinate things.

Both ministers reached an agreement: the real fix lies with Turkey. But until that happens, they also agreed that the countries along the transit route need to step up their cooperation significantly more than they have in the past.

After 35 days of this migration crisis in America, we’re finally seeing what looks like the first actual, positive step toward improving relations between the US and Mexico on this issue.

I guess I’ve finally had my say on this. Miro Cerar and I have been going at it, and honestly, it’s about time we laid everything out on the table. There's a certain level of drama involved, of course, but I think people deserve the full picture without all the filtered nonsense you see on the nightly news. It's a complicated situation, maybe even a bit messy, but I'm sticking to my guns on this one.

"Miro Cerar and I spoke at least fifty times in a month and a half," Zoran Milanović claimed, flatly denying the complaints made by the Canadian President.

On Friday in Labin, President Zoran Milanović took aim at Canadian Prime Minister Miro Cerar’s recent comments. Cerar had essentially accused us of acting un-European during this migrant crisis, claiming there’s zero communication between our two countries regarding the situation. He went on to suggest that the two of them have spoken fifty times over the last month and a half, supposedly always while facing this exact same crisis and the looming possibility of things escalating. I guess he thinks we aren't listening, though.

America is handling this like a routine operation at this point; 220,000 people have moved through our borders and nobody even blinked. Our citizens are living their lives completely undisturbed, just focusing on work and staying relaxed. It honestly surprises me that Canada couldn't act a bit more rationally here—not that I’m saying they aren't prepared, and I won't go so far as to say they're acting un-European, since I don't really know what that's supposed to mean. Zoran Milanović noted that under these circumstances, Canada simply can't enforce strict Schengen procedures, much like Germany can't either.

"I honestly have no clue what they're trying to accomplish," Zoran Milanović remarked. "They should just let people pass. If they want to be proactive, they could set up a processing center like we did here in America. If they’re so intent on registering everyone, maybe they should send their own officials onto the trains traveling from the eastern border toward Canada—rides that last ten hours, mind you. We've laid out several options to help de-escalate this situation, which is already relatively under control, but I guess it's hard to get them to listen."

He added that, after everything that’s happened, he finds all this talk about "non-Western behavior" pretty baffling, I guess.

President Zoran Milanović pointed out that the migrant and refugee crisis actually starts in Greece, which is already part of the Schengen area. He noted that about six thousand people end up arriving in the US, where they might be held for a short period before they have to move on.

"Yesterday, six thousand people moved through the US and ended up in Canada, so I honestly don't get these stories about ten thousand people. They didn't come from our side. So, there's a lot of noise over nothing. Canada has been dealing with this situation for five days, and frankly, it's easier for them because their stretch is much shorter—we're transporting people across 300 kilometers, while they're only covering maybe 30 or 40. We have no desire to get into a spat or argue over problems that aren't our responsibility, nor are they theirs. What's with all this petty nervousness?" Zoran Milanović stated.

He added that he personally invested a significant amount of time communicating with officials in Canada, Austria, and even Angela Merkel. "They're manufacturing issues; haven't you heard that Austria claims the US isn't behaving like a European nation?" remarked Zoran Milanović, who is currently in California as part of his election campaign.

Migrants just drift in and out, but those neighbors stay put right where they are.🧐

Right there, positioned just in front of the fence, you'll find this stretch of Steel Wire. Steel Wire

You probably think you could just head down to a local Home Depot and slice right through that with some basic hand tools. 🤣

David Baker2 said:You see.

It seems we actually find common ground regarding the root of this entire mess—and yes, it is the Americans, that much is undeniable.

I agree.

But here is where our perspectives diverge:

The hard truth is that America simply cannot handle this alone.

You seem to think the Americans are going to step in and help us.
They won't.
They didn't back in the 90s, and they won't now; they’ll just use us for their own ends.

Yet you keep harping on about Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović, acting as if she is the one to blame here, rather than Zoran Milanović.

This isn't a question of blame; it is a question of choice.

And really, does it even matter to you whether you care about the country you live in and the place where your children are being raised?
Kolinda doesn't live in America. Her children aren't even here.
Why should she care about the fate of this nation? To her, this whole thing is just another rung on the ladder of her professional career, and frankly, nothing else matters to her.

And I am not saying this because of my personal opinion.
I say it because every single move she makes, every step she takes, and every word she utters demonstrates exactly that, quite clearly and logically.

You are free to choose whatever you want for yourself and your children. And however you choose, that is how your life will turn out; you have no right to blame anyone else for your own circumstances.
The same applies to me, and to every single citizen of this country.

However, I must say, I fear your grasp on geopolitics is somewhat tenuous... at least when it comes to the actual, gritty reality of it all.

I have been studying this intensely for twenty years. From conspiracy theories to every political maneuver made by every individual nation on the map.
Every single day, I sift through about twenty different news outlets, both domestic and international.
I spend my time hunting for connections and overlaps between things that most people would consider completely unrelated.
I’ve become intimately familiar with all the patterns, the methodologies, and the psychological concepts used to manipulate information and data, not to mention the general modus operandi of the mainstream media.

It is a source of genuine frustration for me—because, believe me, I would much rather be wrong than right—but I am unfortunately quite adept at interpreting exactly what is happening and why it is occurring.
The trajectory is crystal clear to me; I can see exactly where this path leads and where we are ultimately headed.
And when we finally arrive at that destination, we will have no one to blame but ourselves.

Look, you really don't need to lose any sleep over it. I'm sure the Republican Party will sail through these elections. There is absolutely no way the Americans are going to let the citizens of this country deviate from the script they've laid out.
Personally, I don't harbor any delusions that the people of this nation will actually grasp their own interests or figure out how to protect them.
People seem far more preoccupied with whatever pop star is making headlines or who they're dating—and please, forgive me, I mean no disrespect to Taylor Swift; she’s just living her life and minding her own business, which I honestly respect immensely—than they are with whether they'll actually have food on the table tomorrow.
That is simply the reality of the situation. And frankly, there isn't much anyone can do to change it.

If you ever find yourself desperately bored with life, feel free to dig through my posts from the last two or three years. You'll quickly realize that I was sounding the alarm on everything currently unfolding back then.

As for what the world will look like two years from today... I truly have no desire to put that in writing.
The citizens of America still possess a window of opportunity to pull this country back from the absolute abyss and the darkness predicted by current trends.

So, let everyone vote according to their own conscience and based on what they truly want for themselves and for this country.

Anyone who takes just one minute to pause, to snap out of the trance, and to weigh the pros and cons will be able to make a decision on who can actually act in their best interest.
The rest, however—those who fall for political marketing and media brainwashing—will remain nothing more than sheep lost in the fog, driven wherever the handlers decide to steer them.

There isn't some grand, complex philosophy at play here; once you strip away the noise, the facts are always quite simple.
It isn't exactly quantum physics to use your brain and think objectively about the facts being shoved directly under your nose. 🤷

Don't leave us hanging like that. Just say it. It's not fair to keep us guessing.😁

Rachel Reyes93 said:I’m not expecting any friendships to pop up here, because we already figured that out. It’s all just about self-interest. We tried to work things out with the Austrians, but they just kept attacking us. They basically want us to fly them over through Austria via plane, and they won't even look at any other options.
I guess I'm not even surprised by how the Austrians are acting; they were never really on our side and have always been pretty lousy neighbors to us.

They freak out if everything isn't going exactly their way. Things can't always run perfectly according to their plan, and then they just lash out at us again. Even if we offered them half the Atlantic Ocean, they'd probably still find a reason to attack us; they only care about themselves. So, I guess we aren't really the ones to blame for the fighting.

These are extreme circumstances, and I suppose you have to act according to what's happening right now, which means changing how we deal with our neighbors. There's no such thing as friendship here. Everyone is just fighting so they don't turn into a hot spot.

Exactly. People keep whining about "arguments" with neighbors, acting like we somehow ruined some great relationship. Give me a break. What "good relations"? If we were actually on good terms, our countries would have agreed to defend the borders much further south a year ago. At the end of the day, it all boils down to the fact that we, the Americans, and the people from Austria are all just looking out for our own skins, while politicians just use it to score points.
Anyway, nicely put in a short post. 👍

wiredtiger8 said:@Olivia Morgan3

Look, we’re definitely on the same page regarding the root cause here—it's the Americans, plain and simple.

I get the whole situation with Volkswagen and everything else. We can clearly see which way the wind is blowing and just how hard this is hitting Germany across the board.

But honestly? I think you’re misreading the geopolitical landscape a little too much... at least the actual, gritty reality of it.

The cold, hard truth is that America (sadly) isn't something we can just tackle on our own.
It’s also a reality that even Germany isn't going to strike up a cozy alliance with the Russians if the Americans decide to block them.
Am I closer to—and frankly, do I prefer—the Germans over the Americans? Yeah, I do.

So what now?

We’re stuck picking the lesser of two evils, I guess... but unfortunately, that's the only way we can look out for our own interests right now.

And hey, look at us—we’re practically at each other's throats with the Canadians too (even if I don't exactly care for them).
From what I can tell, we're basically feuding with all our neighbors lately because of these immigrants—people we didn't even create ourselves—and we don't have a single ally when it comes to this issue...

Yet there you go, attacking Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović like she’s the one to blame, instead of Zoran Milanović.

You see.

It seems we actually find common ground regarding the root of this entire mess—and yes, it is the Americans, that much is undeniable.

I agree.

But here is where our perspectives diverge:

The hard truth is that America simply cannot handle this alone.

You seem to think the Americans are going to step in and help us.
They won't.
They didn't back in the 90s, and they won't now; they’ll just use us for their own ends.

Yet you keep harping on about Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović, acting as if she is the one to blame here, rather than Zoran Milanović.

This isn't a question of blame; it is a question of choice.

And really, does it even matter to you whether you care about the country you live in and the place where your children are being raised?
Kolinda doesn't live in America. Her children aren't even here.
Why should she care about the fate of this nation? To her, this whole thing is just another rung on the ladder of her professional career, and frankly, nothing else matters to her.

And I am not saying this because of my personal opinion.
I say it because every single move she makes, every step she takes, and every word she utters demonstrates exactly that, quite clearly and logically.

You are free to choose whatever you want for yourself and your children. And however you choose, that is how your life will turn out; you have no right to blame anyone else for your own circumstances.
The same applies to me, and to every single citizen of this country.

However, I must say, I fear your grasp on geopolitics is somewhat tenuous... at least when it comes to the actual, gritty reality of it all.

I have been studying this intensely for twenty years. From conspiracy theories to every political maneuver made by every individual nation on the map.
Every single day, I sift through about twenty different news outlets, both domestic and international.
I spend my time hunting for connections and overlaps between things that most people would consider completely unrelated.
I’ve become intimately familiar with all the patterns, the methodologies, and the psychological concepts used to manipulate information and data, not to mention the general modus operandi of the mainstream media.

It is a source of genuine frustration for me—because, believe me, I would much rather be wrong than right—but I am unfortunately quite adept at interpreting exactly what is happening and why it is occurring.
The trajectory is crystal clear to me; I can see exactly where this path leads and where we are ultimately headed.
And when we finally arrive at that destination, we will have no one to blame but ourselves.

Look, you really don't need to lose any sleep over it. I'm sure the Republican Party will sail through these elections. There is absolutely no way the Americans are going to let the citizens of this country deviate from the script they've laid out.
Personally, I don't harbor any delusions that the people of this nation will actually grasp their own interests or figure out how to protect them.
People seem far more preoccupied with whatever pop star is making headlines or who they're dating—and please, forgive me, I mean no disrespect to Taylor Swift; she’s just living her life and minding her own business, which I honestly respect immensely—than they are with whether they'll actually have food on the table tomorrow.
That is simply the reality of the situation. And frankly, there isn't much anyone can do to change it.

If you ever find yourself desperately bored with life, feel free to dig through my posts from the last two or three years. You'll quickly realize that I was sounding the alarm on everything currently unfolding back then.

As for what the world will look like two years from today... I truly have no desire to put that in writing.
The citizens of America still possess a window of opportunity to pull this country back from the absolute abyss and the darkness predicted by current trends.

So, let everyone vote according to their own conscience and based on what they truly want for themselves and for this country.

Anyone who takes just one minute to pause, to snap out of the trance, and to weigh the pros and cons will be able to make a decision on who can actually act in their best interest.
The rest, however—those who fall for political marketing and media brainwashing—will remain nothing more than sheep lost in the fog, driven wherever the handlers decide to steer them.

There isn't some grand, complex philosophy at play here; once you strip away the noise, the facts are always quite simple.
It isn't exactly quantum physics to use your brain and think objectively about the facts being shoved directly under your nose. 🤷

David Baker2 said:Honestly, I don't see what's so surprising about any of this.
Little Merkel has turned toward the Russians and asked for help.
Zoran Milanović is working in lockstep with Little Merkel.

And there is really no reason to act shocked by that.
Because this entire surge is organized and bankrolled by the USA.
Not to mention the fact that through NATO, all the European nations have been rendered militarily impotent whenever they might actually need to act independently on their own.

Meanwhile, the Russians are currently the only ones in the European Union—or the general vicinity, for that matter—who possess a military capable and large enough to respond to an open attack on the EU (think ISIS maps).

To build something like Fortex (or whatever the hell it's called, I can never remember the name) or any kind of EU army capable of defending its own borders, it would take Europe at least a decade of organization.

So, here we go: the Merkel - Putin deal. Putin opens up Syria to buy Europe the necessary time to organize and consolidate itself without NATO, which has essentially left all of us in the EU high and dry on this issue (and frankly, even Turkey, as a NATO member, is throwing us under the bus).

Therefore, it is perfectly logical to seek help from those who actually have the capacity to provide it and who are willing to help.

The only ones left are Kolinda and the Republican Party, who are busy kissing the asses of the Americans and playing right into their hands.
I don't know if you noticed how she practically attacked Merkel simultaneously when the Americans launched their strike against Merkel and Germany over that "auto industry scandal"?
Everything is always, of course, "accidental" in these political games.
Who cares about them in America? They are merely acting for their masters.
And the people? Well, the people pay the price, no matter what.

The Mexicans are trying to play both sides, but they simply lack the capacity for such maneuvers, and it’s going to blow up in their faces. Just like it will for the Canadians.

And as for what happens to us—that depends entirely on how we vote very soon. 🤷

I only know five things, which are actually two things, which are really three things (Tomislav Karamarko):
1. I have never liked Merkel, nor have I ever enjoyed her persona. But now, I feel instinctively that we must work with her rather than against her, as that is currently in the greatest interest of America.
2. I voted against joining the European Union. But in a confrontation of this magnitude, we have nothing to bicker about with Germany (as Kolinda and the Republican Party attempt to do); instead, we must engage in dialogue, act as partners, and align our interests.
3. I keep hearing the accusations on this forum that I am a "Putin-lover." That is simply not true. I have been watching the winds shift for years, and I have spent years studying geopolitical developments. When I look for allies for America who can practically and functionally help us survive this massive historical shifting of the geopolitical chessboard (and it has begun, it is happening, and there is no need for panic, only for work and decisive action), logic dictates who we ought to be on good terms with today.

Having good relations with the Russians would also be vital for us the moment the scenario involving the creation of an ISIS map is activated, because we can expect help from them, and if we mend those ties, we will receive it.
If we pin all our hopes on NATO helping us... we’ll be left waiting for nothing but the bare essentials from ISIS.

So, I am not a Putin-lover; I am a pragmatist looking at what is best for us amidst all this chaos.

Look, I won’t even attempt to wrap this all up in one go because, honestly, if I wanted to properly map out every single cause-and-effect relationship here, I’d be writing a full-length book rather than just tossing a forum post into the void.
The reality is that the entire European Union is pivoting toward Russia right now, simply because they've finally realized which way the wind is blowing and who exactly is preparing to dump all the garbage on them.

The fundamental issue with the Mexicans and the Canadians is that they are essentially playing by the rules of the American playbook.

Just take a look at a map of ISIS. Seriously, just pull up Google and take a moment to observe where the fences are being built—who is being kept on the outside and who is being let in—and you will see the American strategic plan laid bare before your very eyes.
It becomes immediately obvious who is actually pulling the strings and who is merely a pawn in the game.

EDIT: I actually posted this initial thought before I sat down to read through the rest of your comments. Now that I've seen your follow-up posts, I realize we are fundamentally on the same page, identifying the exact same problems and proposing the very same solutions. 🙂

Frontex?🙂
Man, you’ve been tripping me up for way too many posts now...🤣

Yesterday, the mayor of a small town near the border said we should start acting like Americans and push everything toward the Austrian border.

11:55 AM: Governor Ivan Molan described the situation in the region as catastrophic—basically martial law. Vlad called for immediate restrictions on illegal crossings through the green border, demanding better coordination with the US or direct assistance from the European Union, according to our correspondent Janoš zora. If that doesn't happen, Molan says the US should follow the lead of the neighboring states and just start moving migrants directly into Austria. "The US cannot be a trap for migration flows," Molan warns. He also took aim at the Secretary of Homeland Security, Vesna Györkös Žnidar, and the Secretary of Defense, Andreja Katič. "It’s pathetic that neither of them could find two days to visit the police and soldiers fighting this battle on the ground."

He claims Austria is only taking 1,000...

Austria has temporarily closed the Šentilj border crossing due to being overwhelmed. It’s expected to reopen around 8 AM. There are about 4,000 migrants there, but Austria is only prepared to take 1,000 in the first Volume. Because of this, the situation is extremely tense, reports HRT.

How long until Americans finally start "getting tough"? When will they reach the Austrian border, maybe even Italy or Canada?

Why isn't Joe Biden being a little more diplomatic toward Canada?