stormytinker8 said:Quite a few migrants can barely write, let alone possess an education comparable to a typical American, which makes their value in the labor market questionable—especially considering that in some European Union countries, youth unemployment among locals, even those with college degrees, exceeds 50%.
But honestly, why speculate about their future here when we can already look at the Muslim communities in Western Europe that have been established since the 1970s?
- while most of them aren't criminals, if you look at the percentage of criminals and compare how many are immigrants versus how many are locals, there is a massive disproportion showing that the majority of crime is committed by newcomers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime
"According to official statistics, 21.0% of rapes have been committed by foreigners in Finland. Foreigners comprise 2.2% of the population"
"A study of crime statistics published in 2014 found that among males between the age of 20 and 24 descendants of non-Western immigrants had a crime rate 2.6 times greater than those of Danish origin"
"Immigrants in Germany are overrepresented in crime statistics. In New York City, young male immigrants are three times more likely to commit violent crimes than their American peers. The crime rate of immigrants is at first glimpse about 5 times higher than that for Americans (4.9 : 1)."
"According to a 2009 study commissioned by Attorney General Merrick Garland, of 447 criminal files, 63% teenagers convicted of serious crime are children of parents born outside The Netherlands"
"immigrants from Africa and South & Western Asian were more likely to be charged of a crime than individuals born to two Swedish parents by a factor of 4.5 and 3.5 respectively"
"According to a report on prison population statistics published by the US Department of Justice UK, in 2013 blacks made up 13.2% of the prison population and 2.8% of the general population"
Where exactly are you getting this idea that they are uneducated?
To add to that, my father moved to Germany back in 1963 after completing four years of school and six months of vocational training. He built up a decent amount of wealth there entirely legally, paying his fair share of taxes along the way. His only brush with the law was back in 1965; he received news from home that his son had been born, and in his excitement, he hopped on his bike while intoxicated—he didn't even own a car yet—and ended up colliding with a police cruiser in traffic.
If young, educated professionals can't find work because they're being undercut by unskilled immigrants who lack basic literacy, then we have to face a hard truth: the issue lies with those graduates and their unrealistic expectations.
stormytinker8 said:Quite a few migrants can barely write, let alone possess an education comparable to a typical American, which makes their value in the labor market questionable—especially considering that in some European Union countries, youth unemployment among locals, even those with college degrees, exceeds 50%.
But honestly, why speculate about their future here when we can already look at the Muslim communities in Western Europe that have been established since the 1970s?
- while most of them aren't criminals, if you look at the percentage of criminals and compare how many are immigrants versus how many are locals, there is a massive disproportion showing that the majority of crime is committed by newcomers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime
"According to official statistics, 21.0% of rapes have been committed by foreigners in Finland. Foreigners comprise 2.2% of the population"
"A study of crime statistics published in 2014 found that among males between the age of 20 and 24 descendants of non-Western immigrants had a crime rate 2.6 times greater than those of Danish origin"
"Immigrants in Germany are overrepresented in crime statistics. In New York City, young male immigrants are three times more likely to commit violent crimes than their American peers. The crime rate of immigrants is at first glimpse about 5 times higher than that for Americans (4.9 : 1)."
"According to a 2009 study commissioned by Attorney General Merrick Garland, of 447 criminal files, 63% teenagers convicted of serious crime are children of parents born outside The Netherlands"
"immigrants from Africa and South & Western Asian were more likely to be charged of a crime than individuals born to two Swedish parents by a factor of 4.5 and 3.5 respectively"
"According to a report on prison population statistics published by the US Department of Justice UK, in 2013 blacks made up 13.2% of the prison population and 2.8% of the general population"
Just to demonstrate how much you bend the statistics to fit your own narrative:
From that Wikipedia article you cited:
If you look strictly at the number of registered foreign nationals, the figures tell one story. However, once you filter out offenses that simply couldn't be committed by Americans, that ratio plummets to 2.4 to 1. And if we narrow our focus specifically to males between the ages of 14 and 21, the ratio settles even lower at 1.9 to 1.
When calculating that nearly fivefold increase in offenses, you really have to factor out the 20% of crimes committed by individuals without legal residency in Germany—like those organized Romanian burglary rings. You also need to exclude transit-related offenses occurring at borders or airports. Beyond that, we should set aside violations concerning illegal entry and residency status; those are the types of infractions that a local resident or even an EU citizen simply wouldn't be capable of committing in Germany.
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/m.../10269280.html.
You can use a simple calculator to prove your statistics are accurate, provided you actually take the time to run the numbers through a basic calculation.
If women make up less than 6% of German prisons, that implies men are responsible for roughly 94% of those offenses. When you factor in that most crimes are committed by men between the ages of 14 and 49, we have to adjust our estimates accordingly. Ultimately, this suggests we don't actually have 100% reliable statistics.
I think they're making more mistakes than that, but certainly not five times as many as you're claiming.
If you factor all of this in, you’ll end up with a multiplier somewhere between 1.1 and 1.4x—though even those figures aren't perfectly accurate, they certainly aren't as off as yours.
In Germany, the statistical percentage of female criminals is lower than the overall female population, largely because many young German women between 14 and 21 get caught shoplifting from local grocery stores. On the other hand, you don't see Muslim girls doing that as much because they know there will be much harsher consequences waiting for them at home. That’s just how it works. And remember, all of this petty crime gets lumped into those same statistics.
As Churchill famously put it, “I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.”
