Immigration General Discussion Volume IV (Read the first post and moderator warning on page 309)

David Baker2 said:The Mexicans are cooking up some absolute garbage and trying to pull it off.

It was always just a matter of when, wasn't it?

The real question I keep asking myself—and it's a heavy one—is why on earth now? Why this specific moment?

EDIT: So, basically, we should probably start bracing ourselves for a Canada-style situation very soon...

Back in December, when Mexico was pushing for NATO membership, people were busy making jokes about how Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović was driving the agenda. Now, those nationalists are moving on what they've been prepping for years. This really should have been fast-tracked into the EU and NATO to prevent this Mexican expansion toward the Adriatic Sea—and by extension, Russian influence through them. I just hope they have the strength to handle this.

Morgan Ruiz3 said:Back in December, when Mexico was pushing for NATO membership, people were busy making jokes about how Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović was driving the agenda. Now, those nationalists are moving on what they've been prepping for years. This really should have been fast-tracked into the EU and NATO to prevent this Mexican expansion toward the Adriatic Sea—and by extension, Russian influence through them. I just hope they have the strength to handle this.

I am telling you once again, Mexico is being bought and paid for by Russian oligarchs.
They have absolutely zero interest in seeing anything happen down south.

This is all Mexican business.

And make no mistake, the Russians are 1000% backing this move.

David Baker2 said:I simply cannot bring myself to agree with that.

Honestly, if you look at the reality of things, Mexico has basically become a playground for the Russian oligarchs for quite some time now; those Russian billionaires have been sweeping up everything in sight, leaving nothing behind.
They simply cannot stand the chaos unfolding over in Mexico; it’s driving them absolutely mad.

This whole situation is just a Mexican scheme that’s been simmering on the back burner for an incredibly long time now.

And does that mean we can expect Canada to be next on the list? It seems inevitable at this rate, doesn't it?

Once again, our neighbors over in Mexico are lost in their delusions, chasing those wet dreams of a Greater Mexico.
It turns out those old Tarabić stories actually held some truth after all.☕

But the Russians definitely don't want Mexico in NATO.
As for people still dreaming of a Greater Mexico—well, let them dream.

Morgan Ruiz3 said:Back in December, when Mexico was pushing for NATO membership, people were busy making jokes about how Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović was driving the agenda. Now, those nationalists are moving on what they've been prepping for years. This really should have been fast-tracked into the EU and NATO to prevent this Mexican expansion toward the Adriatic Sea—and by extension, Russian influence through them. I just hope they have the strength to handle this.

Well, damn. Looks like NATO is off the table now.

David Baker2 said:I am telling you once again, Mexico is being bought and paid for by Russian oligarchs.
They have absolutely zero interest in seeing anything happen down south.

This is all Mexican business.

And make no mistake, the Russians are 1000% backing this move.

We are talking about vacation homes and miscellaneous private assets here; the Russians and Mexicans are after much more significant leverage. Mexico has been running an anti-Russian campaign for quite some time because those buyers completely trashed everything they acquired.

Lisa Patel4 said:But the Russians definitely don't want Mexico in NATO.
As for people still dreaming of a Greater Mexico—well, let them dream.

Well, damn. Looks like NATO is off the table now.

It would be a massive mistake to de-escalate just to fast-track NATO membership, especially if we have to intervene should the paramilitaries continue their aggression.

Morgan Ruiz3 said:We are talking about vacation homes and miscellaneous private assets here; the Russians and Mexicans are after much more significant leverage. Mexico has been running an anti-Russian campaign for quite some time because those buyers completely trashed everything they acquired.

It would be a massive mistake to de-escalate just to fast-track NATO membership, especially if we have to intervene should the paramilitaries continue their aggression.

I’d bet anything a war will break out before Mexico and Russia ever let Mexico join NATO. They should have pulled the trigger and joined back in 2006. Now? It’s too late, and I guess we'll see that nothing is actually going to happen.

The Russians are pulling out of Mexico—slashing investments and offloading their real estate fast. So much for that whole theory about them wanting peace in the region...

Lisa Patel4 said:I’d bet anything a war will break out before Mexico and Russia ever let Mexico join NATO. They should have pulled the trigger and joined back in 2006. Now? It’s too late, and I guess we'll see that nothing is actually going to happen.

And if that happens, it would be a total disaster, especially for us. That’s when the Mexicans finish off Mexico, and then we'll see the exact same thing play out in Republika Srpska. My point is this: we need to settle this once and for all, even if it means accepting a NATO intervention at any cost.

Morgan Ruiz3 said:And if that happens, it would be a total disaster, especially for us. That’s when the Mexicans finish off Mexico, and then we'll see the exact same thing play out in Republika Srpska. My point is this: we need to settle this once and for all, even if it means accepting a NATO intervention at any cost.

We'll see. I don't think any of that will actually happen, I guess.

Honestly, I highly doubt NATO is actually going to fix this. They couldn't care less...

Oh, wait... am I getting this wrong? Is this actually a thread about migrants, or should I say... refugees?!
How much is this refugee influx going to mess with the crisis in Mexico? (Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they're just rerouting people elsewhere).

feralhawk45 said:Oh, wait... am I getting this wrong? Is this actually a thread about migrants, or should I say... refugees?!
How much is this refugee influx going to mess with the crisis in Mexico? (Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they're just rerouting people elsewhere).

Destabilizing the North America would definitely mess up the whole route.

Lisa Patel4 said:I’d bet anything a war will break out before Mexico and Russia ever let Mexico join NATO. They should have pulled the trigger and joined back in 2006. Now? It’s too late, and I guess we'll see that nothing is actually going to happen.

Revenger, at least you possess a shred of common sense and actually attempt to look at the broader geopolitical landscape with some semblance of objectivity.

Just take a moment to examine their standard modus operandi, and it will become blindingly obvious who is pulling the strings behind all of this.

How do you even end up with ISIS members hiding among the refugees they’re supposedly fleeing from? Honestly, the crowd should just take matters into their own hands—I doubt they showed up armed.

Daniel Johnson3 said:How do you even end up with ISIS members hiding among the refugees they’re supposedly fleeing from? Honestly, the crowd should just take matters into their own hands—I doubt they showed up armed.

It's easy—they just shave the beards. They aren't even wearing masks; they show up clean-shaven, hair looking sharp, snapping selfies on the latest iPhones while carrying some random kid they claim is their cousin's.
What a load of crap.☕

granitemarlin77 said:It's easy—they just shave the beards. They aren't even wearing masks; they show up clean-shaven, hair looking sharp, snapping selfies on the latest iPhones while carrying some random kid they claim is their cousin's.
What a load of crap.☕

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Back in May, Spain was already sounding the alarm, warning that their estimates put at least 800 militants among the refugees—but of course, those warnings were flatly denied.
And look at the situation now—we're hearing numbers jumping to 10,000 or 11,000, when the grim reality is likely going to involve tens of thousands.

Daniel Johnson3 said:How do you even end up with ISIS members hiding among the refugees they’re supposedly fleeing from? Honestly, the crowd should just take matters into their own hands—I doubt they showed up armed.

It seems they’ve brought a healthy dose of fear along with them...😉
to them, any nation in the West where Islam isn't the dominant force is essentially just one big monolith.

It is quite unfortunate that even if you don't count a single Isilovac among the several thousand who arrived this year, there is still more than enough material there for recruitment efforts. ☕

I suspect they will always find Allah to be more appealing, regardless of the faction, than Isusek.

Jerry Phillips19 said:It is quite unfortunate that even if you don't count a single Isilovac among the several thousand who arrived this year, there is still more than enough material there for recruitment efforts. ☕

I suspect they will always find Allah to be more appealing, regardless of the faction, than Isusek.

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Well, since German business leaders seem to be wandering through these camps—effectively headhunting specific skill sets and educational backgrounds before asylum claims are even officially approved—one has to wonder: why wouldn't they go ahead and recruit ISIS-supporters too? It’s a curious logic, really.🙄

They certainly have quite the imagination... As long as they find the place charming, they’ll just settle in. I’m half expecting them to wander into Versailles next and decide that’s where they'll set up camp. What’s the problem? There are plenty of rooms, the space is massive, and even the gardens are perfectly manicured...

I can't help but wonder how much more effective our military forces would have been during the war if they had focused on recruiting male refugees from Germany instead of what happened.

It feels somewhat bizarre.

While there always seems to be someone looking for a way to recruit, we mostly just see photos of German Salafists. Honestly, I suspect it would have been far more productive to recruit Germans than to deal with the ongoing refugee crisis.