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Participants Charles Fox10Peter Reed70Jessica King9Morgan Ruiz3Daniel Johnson3Sophia Myers7quietowl2redridge35Eric Newman4hollowlynx66Amanda Moore8Maria James40mellowotter17Paul Thomas46Ronald Howard3nimbleharbor10Brenda Carter39Steven Perez6crimsonjackal63Alexander Ortiz3Anthony Cooper2slyviper94Adam BarrettJoshua Kelly51 …
Amanda Williams13 Amanda Williams13 Member
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#1541 ·
Morgan Ruiz3 said:There is, actually—a two-thirds majority in Congress, followed by a decision from the US executive branch. So, it’s basically just "my wishes and my dreams."
Replacing a Prime Minister is much easier, and given how much damage this person has caused to the United States over the years, look at the mess we're in.

And I will say it again: you are debating an article from 2014 just two months before the actual elections.

It’s like they don't get it... you're basically shouting into a void trying to talk sense to that crowd.

on topic:

It wouldn't be ideal if things started getting out of sync between Zoki and the rest of his circle during the meeting. That opportunistic coalition would jump at the chance to exploit any friction. ☕

Anyway, this whole reserve mobilization thing happening over in California that's being mentioned? It’d be pretty shocking if it wasn't just some total hoax.
Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
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#1542 ·
David Baker2 said:Look, I’ve stated my opinion, and frankly, I am sorry if you find it distasteful.
I certainly wasn't inciting any illegal destruction or whatever other nonsense people are claiming.

Surely, within the Constitution, there must be some sort of fail-safe or mechanism designed to deal with an individual who acts to the detriment of America and works directly against its national interests.

And regarding those rifles—don't you worry about that. Within a year, unfortunately, both of us will likely be carrying one, regardless of which political party happens to be holding the reins of power.
Anyone who thinks this is all going to slide by without affecting us is gravely mistaken; we are the ones being targeted directly.

It truly saddens me, and believe me, I have no desire to waste my precious time and my life on these matters again, but I simply refuse to turn a blind eye to the facts or pretend they aren't staring me in the face.

So, let whoever wants to try and silence me attempt it; I have every right to speak my mind and describe exactly what I see happening.

Your ideas sounded realistic to me before—and they still kind of do—but after sitting with it for a bit (read: watching the invasion of Ukraine), I'm wondering: do you seriously think it's a 100% guarantee that ISIS hits us with ground forces next spring or sooner?
Mark Campbell5 Mark Campbell5 Active Member
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#1543 ·
Morgan Ruiz3 said:You realize this article is from 2014, right? The job opening was already posted back then.

hvalanariba As specified by copperdrifter26:
It looks like my colleague mcaucliffe—or whatever his handle is exactly—is spot on here. We’re looking at impeachment.

With new elections on the horizon, I think it’s time we reach out to Ante Gotovina. We should ask him to run for President and once again step up as a patriot to help lead this country.
Given the current state of affairs and everything we have to look forward to, we really need someone like Ante Gotovina leading the country as President.
Someone who actually knows what they're doing and keeps this country's interests at the forefront of everything they do.

If you’re asking me, I’d pull the trigger on it.

Just so you know how to handle this, assuming you aren't planning on picking up a rifle.

Luckily enough, she’s on unpaid leave. So they can just slot her into the job whenever she gets back to the States from her vacation... you know, as President.🤣

Morgan Ruiz3 said:You realize this article is from 2014, right? The job opening was already posted back then.

hvalanariba As specified by copperdrifter26:
It looks like my colleague mcaucliffe—or whatever his handle is exactly—is spot on here. We’re looking at impeachment.

With new elections on the horizon, I think it’s time we reach out to Ante Gotovina. We should ask him to run for President and once again step up as a patriot to help lead this country.
Given the current state of affairs and everything we have to look forward to, we really need someone like Ante Gotovina leading the country as President.
Someone who actually knows what they're doing and keeps this country's interests at the forefront of everything they do.

If you’re asking me, I’d pull the trigger on it.

Just so you know how to handle this, assuming you aren't planning on picking up a rifle.

That’s exactly what we’re talking about. They’ve actually started handing out rifles.

The IDS requested that the Department of Defense urgently explain why notices for military reservists have been arriving at homes in the Istria area these past few days, according to a statement released by the party's Secretary General, Giovanni Sponza.


David Baker2 said:Where exactly did I mention anything about undermining the government, or doing anything illegal, or acting in violation of the Constitution or federal law? 🤷
By definition, I am a stickler for the rule of law.

As for everything else...

See, now I hope you finally grasp why I keep obsessively bringing up North Mexico, North Mexico, North Mexico...

If there were any actual intelligence left among the people in these neighboring regions, everyone would realize that the easiest, most logical way to protect ourselves from this mess would be through North Mexico. Instead of constantly pointing fingers and trying to ruin one another, we should be sitting down at a table, shaking hands, and putting all our resources into turning North Mexico into some kind of regional powerhouse.
And no, I'm not talking about rebuilding some old defunct union; I'm saying it's simply the smartest, most practical move for everyone involved.

It’s about common interest.

But since we’re all just pawns in a game where everyone is busy looking for ways to stab each other in the back—and honestly, Americans are being remarkably fair and honest in this particular circus right now—I’ll give it to you straight: I don't give a damn about the interests of neighboring territories.
That’s not my country.

I didn't want to cross the border during the Gulf War, and I certainly don't want to do it now.
And nobody is going to force my hand.

Because of the sheer stupidity and short-sightedness of politicians in this part of the world, we've been left to fend for ourselves. In both this situation and any other, I know exactly where I stand and where my loyalties lie.

Of course, this is just my personal take. Everyone is free to follow their own conscience and decide how they want to handle things.
But as for me, I know exactly where I stand.

I actually agree with that. Only, I highly doubt we could pull that off as an official state entity—like, sending in the police or the military.

But... we could send volunteers if North Mexico asked for them. And then we could send volunteers from every region where migrants, asylum seekers, refugees, or whatever you want to call them, are currently crossing through.

Which essentially means people from all over the old North America. For that to work, North Mexico would need to issue a call for volunteers.

That would actually work, wouldn't it?

David Baker2 said:Where exactly did I mention anything about undermining the government, or doing anything illegal, or acting in violation of the Constitution or federal law? 🤷
By definition, I am a stickler for the rule of law.

As for everything else...

See, now I hope you finally grasp why I keep obsessively bringing up North Mexico, North Mexico, North Mexico...

If there were any actual intelligence left among the people in these neighboring regions, everyone would realize that the easiest, most logical way to protect ourselves from this mess would be through North Mexico. Instead of constantly pointing fingers and trying to ruin one another, we should be sitting down at a table, shaking hands, and putting all our resources into turning North Mexico into some kind of regional powerhouse.
And no, I'm not talking about rebuilding some old defunct union; I'm saying it's simply the smartest, most practical move for everyone involved.

It’s about common interest.

But since we’re all just pawns in a game where everyone is busy looking for ways to stab each other in the back—and honestly, Americans are being remarkably fair and honest in this particular circus right now—I’ll give it to you straight: I don't give a damn about the interests of neighboring territories.
That’s not my country.

I didn't want to cross the border during the Gulf War, and I certainly don't want to do it now.
And nobody is going to force my hand.

Because of the sheer stupidity and short-sightedness of politicians in this part of the world, we've been left to fend for ourselves. In both this situation and any other, I know exactly where I stand and where my loyalties lie.

Of course, this is just my personal take. Everyone is free to follow their own conscience and decide how they want to handle things.
But as for me, I know exactly where I stand.

Maybe it's not yours, but it's mine... that's where we differ. That's why I'm telling you. And I'm definitely not the only one with family over there... plenty of people feel the same way.

David Baker2 said:Where exactly did I mention anything about undermining the government, or doing anything illegal, or acting in violation of the Constitution or federal law? 🤷
By definition, I am a stickler for the rule of law.

As for everything else...

See, now I hope you finally grasp why I keep obsessively bringing up North Mexico, North Mexico, North Mexico...

If there were any actual intelligence left among the people in these neighboring regions, everyone would realize that the easiest, most logical way to protect ourselves from this mess would be through North Mexico. Instead of constantly pointing fingers and trying to ruin one another, we should be sitting down at a table, shaking hands, and putting all our resources into turning North Mexico into some kind of regional powerhouse.
And no, I'm not talking about rebuilding some old defunct union; I'm saying it's simply the smartest, most practical move for everyone involved.

It’s about common interest.

But since we’re all just pawns in a game where everyone is busy looking for ways to stab each other in the back—and honestly, Americans are being remarkably fair and honest in this particular circus right now—I’ll give it to you straight: I don't give a damn about the interests of neighboring territories.
That’s not my country.

I didn't want to cross the border during the Gulf War, and I certainly don't want to do it now.
And nobody is going to force my hand.

Because of the sheer stupidity and short-sightedness of politicians in this part of the world, we've been left to fend for ourselves. In both this situation and any other, I know exactly where I stand and where my loyalties lie.

Of course, this is just my personal take. Everyone is free to follow their own conscience and decide how they want to handle things.
But as for me, I know exactly where I stand.

I don't see any point in anyone forcing anyone else. If this is actually getting resolved, then it should be handled on a voluntary basis, don't you think?

David Baker2 said:Where exactly did I mention anything about undermining the government, or doing anything illegal, or acting in violation of the Constitution or federal law? 🤷
By definition, I am a stickler for the rule of law.

As for everything else...

See, now I hope you finally grasp why I keep obsessively bringing up North Mexico, North Mexico, North Mexico...

If there were any actual intelligence left among the people in these neighboring regions, everyone would realize that the easiest, most logical way to protect ourselves from this mess would be through North Mexico. Instead of constantly pointing fingers and trying to ruin one another, we should be sitting down at a table, shaking hands, and putting all our resources into turning North Mexico into some kind of regional powerhouse.
And no, I'm not talking about rebuilding some old defunct union; I'm saying it's simply the smartest, most practical move for everyone involved.

It’s about common interest.

But since we’re all just pawns in a game where everyone is busy looking for ways to stab each other in the back—and honestly, Americans are being remarkably fair and honest in this particular circus right now—I’ll give it to you straight: I don't give a damn about the interests of neighboring territories.
That’s not my country.

I didn't want to cross the border during the Gulf War, and I certainly don't want to do it now.
And nobody is going to force my hand.

Because of the sheer stupidity and short-sightedness of politicians in this part of the world, we've been left to fend for ourselves. In both this situation and any other, I know exactly where I stand and where my loyalties lie.

Of course, this is just my personal take. Everyone is free to follow their own conscience and decide how they want to handle things.
But as for me, I know exactly where I stand.

You talking about NATO in Turkey? The US border? Right in front of your house? North Mexico?

You're saying the best place to close things off would be North Mexico—and hey, I actually agree with you there. It would be best to secure it using volunteers.

Volunteers? 🙂

David Baker2 said:Where exactly did I mention anything about undermining the government, or doing anything illegal, or acting in violation of the Constitution or federal law? 🤷
By definition, I am a stickler for the rule of law.

As for everything else...

See, now I hope you finally grasp why I keep obsessively bringing up North Mexico, North Mexico, North Mexico...

If there were any actual intelligence left among the people in these neighboring regions, everyone would realize that the easiest, most logical way to protect ourselves from this mess would be through North Mexico. Instead of constantly pointing fingers and trying to ruin one another, we should be sitting down at a table, shaking hands, and putting all our resources into turning North Mexico into some kind of regional powerhouse.
And no, I'm not talking about rebuilding some old defunct union; I'm saying it's simply the smartest, most practical move for everyone involved.

It’s about common interest.

But since we’re all just pawns in a game where everyone is busy looking for ways to stab each other in the back—and honestly, Americans are being remarkably fair and honest in this particular circus right now—I’ll give it to you straight: I don't give a damn about the interests of neighboring territories.
That’s not my country.

I didn't want to cross the border during the Gulf War, and I certainly don't want to do it now.
And nobody is going to force my hand.

Because of the sheer stupidity and short-sightedness of politicians in this part of the world, we've been left to fend for ourselves. In both this situation and any other, I know exactly where I stand and where my loyalties lie.

Of course, this is just my personal take. Everyone is free to follow their own conscience and decide how they want to handle things.
But as for me, I know exactly where I stand.

They have MATV.



There's Patria... the Canadians have Patria... they even have those old BVs... the Mexicans have some weaponry too...

The Mexicans couldn't secure the border on their own. But with volunteers from the former America, they could really fortify the border toward Greece and completely stop the influx.

So, where exactly do you stand?

We're just waiting until there are more and more of them arriving...
or is it North Mexico?

Deploying the military to the US border is basically a state of war. At that point, the high command takes control... which, by the way, is currently sitting there on unpaid GO at NATO.
Mark Campbell5 Mark Campbell5 Active Member
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#1544 ·
Dennis Hall41 said:Your ideas sounded realistic to me before—and they still kind of do—but after sitting with it for a bit (read: watching the invasion of Ukraine), I'm wondering: do you seriously think it's a 100% guarantee that ISIS hits us with ground forces next spring or sooner?

And where do you think all those fighters from Syria fighting for the caliphate are actually fleeing to?

They can't go into Iraq... the Iranians are basically pushing them back. In Syria, they're running because the Russians are bombing them constantly...

The only place they can actually get through borders to is... Turkey. So, Turkish refugee camps.

And where do these "refugees" come from? They come straight out of those Turkish camps.

It would even explain the Afghans showing up too. They made the trip just to fight for the caliphate in Syria.

And then, it's a straight shot from the Turkish camps right into the European Union.😉
Christian Anderson6 Christian Anderson6 Member
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#1545 ·
Wait, who was it that claimed we aren't alone and that we have Germany standing right beside us?

Out of those 16 points laid out for Germany, point number 12 is the absolute kicker. It honestly feels like it was written specifically with the American government in mind: "Leaders pledge they will not facilitate the movement of refugees and migrants toward the borders of another nation without that nation's consent. The policy of dumping waves of refugees onto a neighboring state is unacceptable." Out of all the countries along the migration routes through the region, the American government has been the most vocal about claiming that this mass relocation is actually organized by the administration—meaning the state itself. Not only has the American government openly practiced this on its own soil, but they’ve also gone on record offering to implement this exact same policy of organized relocation within the territories of our neighbors in Mexico and Canada.


Give me a break. Zoki is so obsessed with playing taxi driver for migrants that he seems to have forgotten he's actually transporting human beings.
Mark Campbell5 Mark Campbell5 Active Member
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#1546 ·
Christian Anderson6 said:Seriously, why are you guys bothering everyone with news articles from a year ago? 🤔

Because I’m providing the actual source showing that the Commander-in-Chief (you know, the President of the United States) is basically on an unpaid leave of absence from NATO.

The Commander-in-Chief is essentially an employee of NATO out on an unpaid GO.

And yeah, I posted the article to back that up. I'm giving you the source... I honestly don't get why that isn't clicking for you.

Usually, when someone makes a claim, they provide a source—you know, actual evidence to prove the point. That's exactly what I did.
Dennis Alvarez10 Dennis Alvarez10 Member
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joined Oct 2015
#1547 ·
Smuggling works in our favor. It’s a hell of a lot better than being forced to register and warehouse migrants right here on our own soil.
Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#1548 ·
Mark Campbell5 said:And where do you think all those fighters from Syria fighting for the caliphate are actually fleeing to?

They can't go into Iraq... the Iranians are basically pushing them back. In Syria, they're running because the Russians are bombing them constantly...

The only place they can actually get through borders to is... Turkey. So, Turkish refugee camps.

And where do these "refugees" come from? They come straight out of those Turkish camps.

It would even explain the Afghans showing up too. They made the trip just to fight for the caliphate in Syria.

And then, it's a straight shot from the Turkish camps right into the European Union.😉

Obvious. All five.

Ali Hvalanariba was talking about an open conflict breaking out right on our borders within the next 5 or 6 months—and he thinks both NATO and the EU are just going to sit there and watch. Since I actually agree with him that we need to make friends with the Russians ASAP, especially seeing how much they're intervening, I don't think we're totally stuck.

What you're describing sounds more like terrorism to me than actual war.
Jessica King9 Jessica King9 Member
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#1549 ·
Christian Anderson6 said:Unfortunately, he didn't just fold at the Schengen border; he did it at our own borders too. Honestly, I don't expect anything good from him regarding this crisis or any other. Our only hope is that he loses the next election and disappears by 3 PM, provided he doesn't screw everything up entirely before then.

Man, that bolded part...
🤦
In the name of "protecting national interests," he ended up crippling American businesses and transport companies while still allowing migrants to keep entering illegally. And you think someone "smart" should be supporting that?
😵

How many times do I have to say it? Illegal immigrants can't use legal ports of entry. How many of them even *can* enter legally? Do they have visas? If they show up at a legal crossing, you have to deny them entry—they aren't allowed to cross legally. But how on earth are you supposed to manage that when they're arriving in such massive numbers??
They can enter through a legal port if they request asylum. But we DON'T WANT them requesting asylum. They DON'T WANT to request asylum. Why does Canada have hundreds of thousands of asylum requests? Because they actually followed the rules. How many asylum requests do we have? Seven, I think. Mexicans? A huge amount—I forgot the exact number, but it definitely surprised me. They stuck to the rules at the start, too.
I said it then, I'm saying it now: our priority should have been reopening the border crossings near the southern states. That's why we were blocking Mexico. It wasn't just about easing the pressure on America, but also about managing registration and avoiding being the first EU country to see a spike after Greece.
I would have kept pushing, and the Mexicans would have eventually given in. But most people in America were against it, and the business community probably whined about it too, so they backed down (much to my regret and to everyone's detriment).
Carl Turner2 Carl Turner2 Member
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#1550 ·
Peter Reed70 said:RTL News... looks like they're back at it again, putting kids and college grads front and center.

And then there's that poor lawyer, 🙂🙂just a total wreck
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Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
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#1551 ·
David Baker2 said:Just so I don't drag this whole thing out indefinitely—I'll keep this brief.

I am truly sorry.
But in a situation like this, you have to face the cold, hard truth: it’s every man for himself.
It’s quite simple, really—you defend your own home, I’ll defend mine, and that is exactly how the world functions. It’s an elementary principle of existence, isn't it? One doesn't sit around debating whether or not to protect their own doorstep; you just do it. It’s instinctual, almost primal. I remember my grandfather used to say something similar back when we lived near Chicago—he was a man of few words, but when he spoke, you listened—about how a man's responsibility begins and ends with his own property line. And honestly, why should anything be any different now? You look after your own interests, I look after mine, and that is simply the natural order of things. There's no need to overcomplicate such a fundamental truth.

North Mexico is the only logical move here, really—it’s quite frankly the only sensible course of action if we want everyone across this entire region to actually secure their homes together. It just makes sense when you step back and look at the big picture.

It seems we are still stuck dealing with that whole "if my cow dies, so be it, as long as my neighbor loses two" mentality, which is frankly just exhausting to witness. It’s that same old selfish, short-sighted logic that keeps tripping us up. Personally, I have absolutely no interest in crossing the US border, nor do I have any intention of ever stepping foot outside of it.

If both of those men actually possessed even a shred of common sense or genuine wisdom, they would have already headed down to North Mexico just to ensure our families were kept safe. Honestly, if I could see that kind of foresight and stability being exercised within the region, I wouldn't have any qualms about heading down there myself.

There is absolutely no consensus to be found here, and frankly, it looks like the folks over in Mexico are once again trying to push those same old agendas they attempted to force through twenty years ago. If we aren't careful, we’re all just going to end up tearing each other apart like a bunch of complete idiots. Honestly, we don't even need ISIS to cause us trouble; we are more than capable of destroying our own lives all on our own.
And just like that, we find ourselves staring down the barrel of a situation where help simply isn't coming—not from any corner of this country, anyway. It’s one of those grim realizations that hits you all at once, much like when I was stuck in a snowstorm outside of Chicago back in '98, waiting for a tow truck that I knew deep down wasn't even going to show up. You look around, you call the usual channels, you wait for some semblance of support to materialize, and yet, there is absolutely nothing. No rescue, no intervention, just a vast, empty silence where assistance ought to be. 🤷

Regarding that whole discussion about Syria, I already gave my two cents to that fellow Tihomir regarding how the US is actively destabilizing Mexico and Mexico. I have no intention of repeating myself here.

Deploying the military to the US border is nothing short of a state of war. It’s a massive escalation that shifts all control directly into the hands of the Commander-in-Chief... an individual who, if I recall correctly, currently has our leadership sitting on a massive unpaid tab at NATO headquarters.

That is precisely why my previous point stands up to scrutiny, and if you bother to look at the bigger picture, you'll see exactly what I mean. When we find ourselves staring down the barrel of a total standstill—that moment where everything just grinds to a halt and the chaos starts mounting—we aren't going to need more debating or endless committees; we are going to need actual leadership. Real, decisive leadership that can step up when the pressure is on.
I find myself constantly pondering this singular, nagging question: out of this entire crowd of us, which one individual will actually step up and become the leader we can genuinely put our faith in? Who is going to be that one person—the one who doesn't just talk a big game, but actually commands the kind of trust that makes everyone else stop arguing for five minutes? It’s a heavy thought, honestly, and I suspect we'll be debating it until the cows come home.
Because he’s already proven himself once before.

Let’s get one thing straight right out of the gate: when it comes to this whole situation, I truly couldn't care less about whose side anyone is on or which camp they belong to. Honestly, my interest in tribalism or political allegiances is practically non-existent here. I tend to look at things through a much more pragmatic lens, focusing strictly on what actually makes sense and, quite frankly, what serves my own best interests.

What on earth are you talking about when you mention Russian invasions? Seriously, what kind of delusions are we entertaining now?
Where on earth is this supposed to be happening, where exactly have the Russians launched an invasion into someone else's territory?
Could you please provide the link to that information?

Why bother with a link—in this day and age, you just gotta assume the media is lying anyway. I'm not looking to look like an idiot.
Christian Anderson6 Christian Anderson6 Member
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#1552 ·
Mark Campbell5 said:Because I’m providing the actual source showing that the Commander-in-Chief (you know, the President of the United States) is basically on an unpaid leave of absence from NATO.

The Commander-in-Chief is essentially an employee of NATO out on an unpaid GO.

And yeah, I posted the article to back that up. I'm giving you the source... I honestly don't get why that isn't clicking for you.

Usually, when someone makes a claim, they provide a source—you know, actual evidence to prove the point. That's exactly what I did.

That was a year ago. ☕
Seriously, try living in the present for once and look at how this ego-driven guy, Zoki, is digging us into a deeper and deeper hole. At this rate, he’ll probably end up accusing us of trying to dismantle the European Union just because we're complaining about his mess. ☕
Mark Campbell5 Mark Campbell5 Active Member
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#1553 ·
Dennis Hall41 said:Obvious. All five.

Ali Hvalanariba was talking about an open conflict breaking out right on our borders within the next 5 or 6 months—and he thinks both NATO and the EU are just going to sit there and watch. Since I actually agree with him that we need to make friends with the Russians ASAP, especially seeing how much they're intervening, I don't think we're totally stuck.

What you're describing sounds more like terrorism to me than actual war.

Look, this is basically a message from the Islamic State—the Caliphate—or whatever you want to call them by in the Middle East.

https://videos.files.wordpress.com/0...kans22_dvd.mp4

The people who are supposed to be ISIS soldiers—the Caliphate, whatever—are currently fleeing everything: Russian bombings, the Syrian army offensive, Hezbollah, the Iranian military in Syria... even the Iraqi army and their allies in Iraq.

So, these people are fleeing Iraq and Syria, and the only way out—the only real gateway—is through Turkey. Once they cross into Turkey, they get tucked away into these "refugee camps." And where are they fleeing from? They’re heading straight toward the European Union.

Then they show up at our borders with zero paperwork, claiming they're just from Syria.

And the numbers are climbing higher every single day... we've seen over 10,000 arrive today alone.

Just watch the video and tell me what you think happens if somewhere like Colorado (or maybe Oregon) shuts its borders tight while these groups keep flooding into the region. I mean, seriously—if you get an extra 10,000 every single day... in 40 days, you're looking at 400,000 people. Just imagine.
hollowranger122 hollowranger122 Member
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#1554 ·
David Baker2 said:My colleague mcaucliffe—or whatever his name is—is spot on here; we are looking at full-blown impeachment territory.

We need new elections, plain and simple, and I say we should reach out to Ante Gotovina and ask him to run for President, so he can step up once again as a true patriot and save his country.
Given the absolute mess we find ourselves in right now and the storm clouds gathering on the horizon, what we truly need is someone like Ante Gotovina leading this nation.
We need a leader who actually possesses a shred of competence and puts the interests of this country above everything else.

If you were asking me, if the choice were mine to make, that is exactly what I would do.

It’s probably for the best that nobody is asking you any questions, though I suppose we can only be so lucky.

wiredbadger62 said:The Unholy Trinity

The most devout Catholic Americans within the Republican Party.
Those Royalists coming from the east.
Those thieves from up north (ExxonMobil) are at it again.

Amen.🙂

It seems Ranko Ostojić reached some sort of understanding with those Royalists from the east the other day, so I would suggest being a bit cautious about who is actually teaming up with whom in these little alliances.

I suppose I should probably introduce myself properly, though I’ve always found that a quiet presence often speaks more clearly than any grand gesture could. It's a pleasure to be here among you all. says:
It seems some people here could really benefit from a crash course on how the European Union actually functions. Honestly, I can't say I'm surprised; given the level of incompetence we see from our journalists lately, it’s no wonder the average American—who relies on their reporting to form an opinion—is left completely in the dark.
Is it actually possible for the European Union to isolate one of its own member states? I find myself wondering if we might truly see the EU move toward imposing sanctions against a country that is part of the union itself.
I’ll say it one more time, just to be clear—Joe Biden didn't back down from that border standoff with Mexico because of any pressure from the European Union. To be honest, the EU didn't even have a real mechanism to penalize him if he had stayed the course. Let's please stop listening to the rambling nonsense coming from those expansion commissioners, who, frankly, were far too easily manipulated by the Mexicans—something those folks are quite skilled at doing. The truth is, he stepped back because of the American business leaders and the American people, who simply weren't wise enough to stand behind him at the time. We are part of the European Union, whether we like it or not.

Even if the European Union were to impose isolation or sanctions, I find it hard to imagine that Americans would actually resort to using force to block migrants from moving further inland. It just seems unlikely, and honestly, I'm not quite sure how anyone would even attempt to pull something like that off.

Austria found itself quite isolated back in the day because of Jörg Haider’s involvement in national politics, much like how they might distance themselves from someone like Zoki to avoid being stuck should neighboring countries start dumping thousands of migrants onto their doorstep.
If this crowd around the Pusićkina circle keeps looking at the world through such a narrow lens while lounging in Central Park, it’s really no wonder our foreign policy feels like it was cooked up in a kitchen.
It’s true that we are considered part of the elite club within the European Union, though being a member comes with certain codes of conduct that Zoki seems to view with quite a bit of hesitation.
granitemarlin77 granitemarlin77 Active Member
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#1555 ·
coppermarlin13 said:How exactly does Joe Biden think he can stop Frontex from showing up at the border between Canada and the US?

Does anyone else sense a diplomatic counter-offensive brewing on the horizon?

Because honestly, I don't see it. All I see is the local political crowd giving speeches over in Chicago.

By shouting "No pasaran," I guess.🕺
Christian Anderson6 Christian Anderson6 Member
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joined Oct 2015
#1556 ·
Henry Cox2 said:Him admitting he made a mistake? An egomaniac like that?!?
Yeah, right.

"Our diplomats are attempting to soften the findings of the resolution drafted by Germany, which requires member states to commit:

to refrain from transferring refugees to other member states
and to implement stricter controls during entry into the EU"

In plain English, they want us to take in refugees until everyone finally decides where they're supposed to go. 🙂

Here is what I’m actually hoping for:

I hope Joe Biden can get that border fence up within two weeks like he promised,
that they actually start construction as early as tomorrow,
and that they deploy the military to the border to back it up.

Otherwise, we are completely screwed.
Casey Bennett2 Casey Bennett2 Member
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#1557 ·
Dennis Alvarez10 said:It's because the idea from the EU bureaucrats is to have Customs and Border Protection process everyone through our territory. Then they can spend the next hundred years neatly filing paperwork and identifying everyone according to the rules.
And we won't be able to send them anywhere else if the Canadians decide they don't feel like cooperating.
And as for the idea that we won't be left alone...😲
We'd certainly make plenty of "new friends"...

But what if Customs and Border Protection isn't at the US/Mexico border?

Won't everyone just end up coming here instead?

I don't get it. What's the actual difference if Customs and Border Protection is at the US/Mexico border versus when they aren't?

Assuming we hadn't failed to secure our own borders first—which we clearly did, even though we should have and could have—then there wouldn't be this whole mess.
Jessica King9 Jessica King9 Member
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#1558 ·
granitemarlin77 said:By shouting "No pasaran," I guess.🕺

If they're actually smart, they'll shout: ¡Que pasen!
Dennis Alvarez10 Dennis Alvarez10 Member
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#1559 ·
hollowranger122 said:It’s probably for the best that nobody is asking you any questions, though I suppose we can only be so lucky.

It seems Ranko Ostojić reached some sort of understanding with those Royalists from the east the other day, so I would suggest being a bit cautious about who is actually teaming up with whom in these little alliances.

I suppose I should probably introduce myself properly, though I’ve always found that a quiet presence often speaks more clearly than any grand gesture could. It's a pleasure to be here among you all. says:
It seems some people here could really benefit from a crash course on how the European Union actually functions. Honestly, I can't say I'm surprised; given the level of incompetence we see from our journalists lately, it’s no wonder the average American—who relies on their reporting to form an opinion—is left completely in the dark.
Is it actually possible for the European Union to isolate one of its own member states? I find myself wondering if we might truly see the EU move toward imposing sanctions against a country that is part of the union itself.
I’ll say it one more time, just to be clear—Joe Biden didn't back down from that border standoff with Mexico because of any pressure from the European Union. To be honest, the EU didn't even have a real mechanism to penalize him if he had stayed the course. Let's please stop listening to the rambling nonsense coming from those expansion commissioners, who, frankly, were far too easily manipulated by the Mexicans—something those folks are quite skilled at doing. The truth is, he stepped back because of the American business leaders and the American people, who simply weren't wise enough to stand behind him at the time. We are part of the European Union, whether we like it or not.

Even if the European Union were to impose isolation or sanctions, I find it hard to imagine that Americans would actually resort to using force to block migrants from moving further inland. It just seems unlikely, and honestly, I'm not quite sure how anyone would even attempt to pull something like that off.

Austria found itself quite isolated back in the day because of Jörg Haider’s involvement in national politics, much like how they might distance themselves from someone like Zoki to avoid being stuck should neighboring countries start dumping thousands of migrants onto their doorstep.
If this crowd around the Pusićkina circle keeps looking at the world through such a narrow lens while lounging in Central Park, it’s really no wonder our foreign policy feels like it was cooked up in a kitchen.
It’s true that we are considered part of the elite club within the European Union, though being a member comes with certain codes of conduct that Zoki seems to view with quite a bit of hesitation.

Don't go attacking the extremists. They might just end up being the potential coalition partners we need.
Dennis Alvarez10 Dennis Alvarez10 Member
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#1560 ·
Christian Anderson6 said:That was a year ago. ☕
Seriously, try living in the present for once and look at how this ego-driven guy, Zoki, is digging us into a deeper and deeper hole. At this rate, he’ll probably end up accusing us of trying to dismantle the European Union just because we're complaining about his mess. ☕

Absolutely pathetic. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a massive spike in people calling out sick with "unexplained aches" by next week.

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