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What's the point of required reading?

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Linda Price5 Linda Price5 Active Member
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#661 ·
I honestly find it hilarious how high the bar is set here—as if saying, "you didn't stop reading altogether, you just stopped reading the assigned books," counts as some sort of victory.

It’s like having a plumber show up with all the latest high-tech tools, messing around with pipes that are working perfectly fine, only for someone to turn around and say, "Well, at least the water isn't flooding the entire apartment; it's just leaking in the kitchen," and treating that like a massive success. 🤣
wanderingbadger44 wanderingbadger44 Active Member
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#662 ·
Linda Price5 said:And if you haven't felt like reading since you were a kid, then frankly, nobody gives a damn about your opinion.

Look, urbantinker8, someone who has been a reader since childhood will likely end up well-educated regardless of whether they ever step foot in a classroom. In my view, the true purpose of school should be to serve those who didn't grow up with a book in their hands—to act as a bridge that introduces them to literature and helps them develop a genuine love for reading.
A parent simply cannot be held entirely responsible for everything that goes wrong. It’s an impossible standard to meet, and frankly, it's an unfair one. To suggest that a child's every failure or stumble is a direct reflection of parental inadequacy is to ignore the sheer complexity of human development. Think of it like trying to steer a ship through a massive storm in the middle of the Atlantic. A captain can have the best training, the most reliable vessel, and the clearest charts from the Coast Guard, but they still can't control the gale winds or the rogue waves. They can manage the rudder, sure, but once those elements hit, the outcome is no longer solely in their hands. Children are individuals with their own temperaments, peer influences, and increasingly, their own agency. You can provide the best foundation possible—steady guidance, a stable home, and solid values—but you aren't building a robot programmed to follow instructions. You are raising a person. Once they step out into the world, there are a thousand variables at play that no amount of parenting can account for. Blaming a parent for every deviation from the expected path isn't just reductive; it's logically flawed.

If that's the case, what is even the point of sending kids to school? What purpose does it actually serve if there's absolutely no support or recourse once a parent has either failed them or done their job poorly in the first place?

I’m still reading today, too. My Kindle has become such an indispensable companion that I honestly feel naked without it—it’s practically a daily essential, right up there with my wallet.

I’ll admit it: there were times when required reading actually managed to sour my entire relationship with books.

There’s a mountain of classics sitting on my shelf that I probably would have actually enjoyed, but I haven't touched a single one. If a book makes the mandatory reading list for high school, it’s clearly garbage.

I am referring back to my own previous post from a little while ago.
Linda Price5 As specified by:
If the entire point of education is to drill children into becoming compliant adults—people who will clock in and perform mindless, tedious tasks they find utterly pointless just so they can scrape together enough to pay their electric bills—then I fail to see why we bother them with mandatory literature and a bloated curriculum. Instead, we should just have them sewing garments or sanding down table legs for seven or ten bucks an hour. That would teach them the exact same lesson: how to sit still and mind their own business. At least then, there would be a controlled environment where they’re kept under lock and key while their parents are at work, preventing them from forming street gangs and terrorizing neighborhoods. At any rate, it would actually be productive.

Seven bucks times five hours times one hundred seventy-five school days a year adds up to $2042, and over eight years, we're looking at $49,000.

If we let them listen to audiobooks or podcasts while they're sanding or sewing, they might actually finish those eight years without being completely brainless and uneducated.

The only real headache is figuring out where to lock the teachers up during work hours so they don't start forming gangs and terrorizing local neighborhoods, though I suppose even that could probably be solved.

It is actually because it isn't true that "nobody cares" about reading that schools curate such valuable literature in the first place.
That is exactly why you get something like Pinocchio instead of just some random list of famous titles.

Yeah, yeah, I get it—you’ve already decided that Dostoevsky is garbage, and we’ve all heard that song before.
It’s like if your grandmother cooked a terrible meal once and you decided you hated that food forever. You hold onto that grudge so proudly that you refuse to ever try it again, and you act like that decision hasn't cost you anything. But maybe, just maybe, you could have actually enjoyed it if you hadn't let that one bad experience define your entire palate.

You know what? It feels incredibly childish to act like every teacher and Dostoevsky himself should be personally offended just because you branded Dostoevsky's work as trash simply because it was on a required reading list.

And yet, everyone seems to jump to defend literature in a way they would never dream of defending math.
Why deal with those grueling algebra problems, those messy fractions, or complex equations, when there are "easier" tasks that kids actually enjoy and wouldn't mind solving, which might prevent them from hating math altogether?

Instead of reconsidering your stance—that the classics are junk just because an inexperienced kid decided they were—you keep doubling down as if that opinion is some universal truth.

And what about the fact that not every kid can finish Pinocchio? (And I’m not talking to you specifically here. 😁 )
Not every kid can ace every single math problem, not everyone can sing a song perfectly in tune, and not everyone can jump rope without tripping. Does that mean we shouldn't offer those skills to the rest of the children?

Look at this blunt academic truth: not every student is an honors student, regardless of what their grades might suggest.
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#663 ·
Linda Price5 said:I was under the impression that before middle school, kids attend elementary school, where they aren't exactly diving into the heavy hitters of various literary eras; they're more likely to be stuck reading Ante Gardaš. 😁

Well, I suppose it’s pretty obvious that I was actually referring to those high school reading assignments that everyone seems to treat like some sort of looming nightmare.🙄

But, yeah, looking at this thread, I guess I see how that dread starts building up during middle school too, because... well, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but things like *The Outsiders* or *The Giver* or *The Catcher in the Rye* or even *Where the Red Fern Grows*...
I mean, who would actually want to read all that? Like, what's the point, really?😲
briskjackal5 briskjackal5 Active Member
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#664 ·
Linda Price5 said:And if you haven't felt like reading since you were a kid, then frankly, nobody gives a damn about your opinion.

Look, urbantinker8, someone who has been a reader since childhood will likely end up well-educated regardless of whether they ever step foot in a classroom. In my view, the true purpose of school should be to serve those who didn't grow up with a book in their hands—to act as a bridge that introduces them to literature and helps them develop a genuine love for reading.
A parent simply cannot be held entirely responsible for everything that goes wrong. It’s an impossible standard to meet, and frankly, it's an unfair one. To suggest that a child's every failure or stumble is a direct reflection of parental inadequacy is to ignore the sheer complexity of human development. Think of it like trying to steer a ship through a massive storm in the middle of the Atlantic. A captain can have the best training, the most reliable vessel, and the clearest charts from the Coast Guard, but they still can't control the gale winds or the rogue waves. They can manage the rudder, sure, but once those elements hit, the outcome is no longer solely in their hands. Children are individuals with their own temperaments, peer influences, and increasingly, their own agency. You can provide the best foundation possible—steady guidance, a stable home, and solid values—but you aren't building a robot programmed to follow instructions. You are raising a person. Once they step out into the world, there are a thousand variables at play that no amount of parenting can account for. Blaming a parent for every deviation from the expected path isn't just reductive; it's logically flawed.

If that's the case, what is even the point of sending kids to school? What purpose does it actually serve if there's absolutely no support or recourse once a parent has either failed them or done their job poorly in the first place?

I’m still reading today, too. My Kindle has become such an indispensable companion that I honestly feel naked without it—it’s practically a daily essential, right up there with my wallet.

I’ll admit it: there were times when required reading actually managed to sour my entire relationship with books.

There’s a mountain of classics sitting on my shelf that I probably would have actually enjoyed, but I haven't touched a single one. If a book makes the mandatory reading list for high school, it’s clearly garbage.

I am referring back to my own previous post from a little while ago.
Linda Price5 As specified by:
If the entire point of education is to drill children into becoming compliant adults—people who will clock in and perform mindless, tedious tasks they find utterly pointless just so they can scrape together enough to pay their electric bills—then I fail to see why we bother them with mandatory literature and a bloated curriculum. Instead, we should just have them sewing garments or sanding down table legs for seven or ten bucks an hour. That would teach them the exact same lesson: how to sit still and mind their own business. At least then, there would be a controlled environment where they’re kept under lock and key while their parents are at work, preventing them from forming street gangs and terrorizing neighborhoods. At any rate, it would actually be productive.

Seven bucks times five hours times one hundred seventy-five school days a year adds up to $2042, and over eight years, we're looking at $49,000.

If we let them listen to audiobooks or podcasts while they're sanding or sewing, they might actually finish those eight years without being completely brainless and uneducated.

The only real headache is figuring out where to lock the teachers up during work hours so they don't start forming gangs and terrorizing local neighborhoods, though I suppose even that could probably be solved.

I’m not really sure how that connects to this.

I mean, this idea "the whole point of schooling is just training kids to be adults who follow orders at work without questioning things—even if the tasks are tedious, stupid, or totally senseless—just so they can afford their utility bills when they grow up" ... I wouldn't say that's actually the guiding philosophy behind picking which books end up on the required reading list. 😁

So, since that isn't really the point, I guess we can consider that critique settled.

I also personally feel like you can get so much out of reading (even school assignments), even if someone is a total dummy, and I don't think there's much of an argument to be had there.

So, I'm not entirely sure which exact stance or specific part of this story is being questioned here.

And I definitely wouldn't agree that people who actually enjoy the current required reading list will end up hating it; honestly, I think those cases are pretty rare exceptions. Plus, there's always the factor that one person might 'like' this book, while another person prefers that one.

urbantinker8 said:Well, I suppose it’s pretty obvious that I was actually referring to those high school reading assignments that everyone seems to treat like some sort of looming nightmare.🙄

But, yeah, looking at this thread, I guess I see how that dread starts building up during middle school too, because... well, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but things like *The Outsiders* or *The Giver* or *The Catcher in the Rye* or even *Where the Red Fern Grows*...
I mean, who would actually want to read all that? Like, what's the point, really?😲

When hormones are flying and kids have a million other things on their minds, required reading is basically doomed from the jump. 😁

-Steve
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#665 ·
wanderingbadger44 said:It is actually because it isn't true that "nobody cares" about reading that schools curate such valuable literature in the first place.
That is exactly why you get something like Pinocchio instead of just some random list of famous titles.

Yeah, yeah, I get it—you’ve already decided that Dostoevsky is garbage, and we’ve all heard that song before.
It’s like if your grandmother cooked a terrible meal once and you decided you hated that food forever. You hold onto that grudge so proudly that you refuse to ever try it again, and you act like that decision hasn't cost you anything. But maybe, just maybe, you could have actually enjoyed it if you hadn't let that one bad experience define your entire palate.

You know what? It feels incredibly childish to act like every teacher and Dostoevsky himself should be personally offended just because you branded Dostoevsky's work as trash simply because it was on a required reading list.

And yet, everyone seems to jump to defend literature in a way they would never dream of defending math.
Why deal with those grueling algebra problems, those messy fractions, or complex equations, when there are "easier" tasks that kids actually enjoy and wouldn't mind solving, which might prevent them from hating math altogether?

Instead of reconsidering your stance—that the classics are junk just because an inexperienced kid decided they were—you keep doubling down as if that opinion is some universal truth.

And what about the fact that not every kid can finish Pinocchio? (And I’m not talking to you specifically here. 😁 )
Not every kid can ace every single math problem, not everyone can sing a song perfectly in tune, and not everyone can jump rope without tripping. Does that mean we shouldn't offer those skills to the rest of the children?

Look at this blunt academic truth: not every student is an honors student, regardless of what their grades might suggest.

Sure, why not... because, you know... life skills training.🙄
Letting kids just decide everything for themselves—what they’ll do, how they’ll do it, when they’ll do it, or if they feel like doing anything at all.
I guess we won't get very far that way.🤦
Instead of catching up to the education standards in Finland, we'll probably end up trailing behind much more radical systems.🐔
briskjackal5 said:I’m not really sure how that connects to this.

I mean, this idea "the whole point of schooling is just training kids to be adults who follow orders at work without questioning things—even if the tasks are tedious, stupid, or totally senseless—just so they can afford their utility bills when they grow up" ... I wouldn't say that's actually the guiding philosophy behind picking which books end up on the required reading list. 😁

So, since that isn't really the point, I guess we can consider that critique settled.

I also personally feel like you can get so much out of reading (even school assignments), even if someone is a total dummy, and I don't think there's much of an argument to be had there.

So, I'm not entirely sure which exact stance or specific part of this story is being questioned here.

And I definitely wouldn't agree that people who actually enjoy the current required reading list will end up hating it; honestly, I think those cases are pretty rare exceptions. Plus, there's always the factor that one person might 'like' this book, while another person prefers that one.

When hormones are flying and kids have a million other things on their minds, required reading is basically doomed from the jump. 😁

-Steve

But now it seems like even before the hormones and the distractions hit, these heavy-handed reading lists are already starting to kill any interest kids have in actually reading.🕺
Shame on you, Pinocchio!
Christian Wilson28 Christian Wilson28 Member
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#666 ·
Susan James said:And what exactly would audiobooks make easier? If the content itself is boring, it's going to be boring whether you're reading it or listening to it.😕


Personally, I'm not a huge fan—but for people who don't have the time to actually sit down and read, they love putting a book on while commuting to work. My barber does it all the time, actually. I think even Hook likes them too. Of course, it doesn't help if the story is a snooze-fest, but it’s pretty cool if you're interested in something but just can't find the time.
Jesse Barnes5 Jesse Barnes5 Member
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#667 ·
I love it when professors force us to share our "unique perspectives" just so they can tear our analysis apart if it doesn't align with their own views. Like, suddenly my opinion is "unethical" because I didn't read their minds? Logic is dead.
Christian Wilson28 Christian Wilson28 Member
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#668 ·
Alright, so how do they handle required reading over in Finland?
Linda Price5 Linda Price5 Active Member
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#669 ·
wanderingbadger44 said:It is actually because it isn't true that "nobody cares" about reading that schools curate such valuable literature in the first place.
That is exactly why you get something like Pinocchio instead of just some random list of famous titles.

Yeah, yeah, I get it—you’ve already decided that Dostoevsky is garbage, and we’ve all heard that song before.
It’s like if your grandmother cooked a terrible meal once and you decided you hated that food forever. You hold onto that grudge so proudly that you refuse to ever try it again, and you act like that decision hasn't cost you anything. But maybe, just maybe, you could have actually enjoyed it if you hadn't let that one bad experience define your entire palate.

You know what? It feels incredibly childish to act like every teacher and Dostoevsky himself should be personally offended just because you branded Dostoevsky's work as trash simply because it was on a required reading list.

And yet, everyone seems to jump to defend literature in a way they would never dream of defending math.
Why deal with those grueling algebra problems, those messy fractions, or complex equations, when there are "easier" tasks that kids actually enjoy and wouldn't mind solving, which might prevent them from hating math altogether?

Instead of reconsidering your stance—that the classics are junk just because an inexperienced kid decided they were—you keep doubling down as if that opinion is some universal truth.

And what about the fact that not every kid can finish Pinocchio? (And I’m not talking to you specifically here. 😁 )
Not every kid can ace every single math problem, not everyone can sing a song perfectly in tune, and not everyone can jump rope without tripping. Does that mean we shouldn't offer those skills to the rest of the children?

Look at this blunt academic truth: not every student is an honors student, regardless of what their grades might suggest.

Look, I am not claiming Dostoevsky is trash. Nor am I suggesting that required literature is any more useless than math class, or that we should swap out algebra for sneaker repair workshops and podcasts.

Good grief, if I tried to read Crime and Punishment with the level of comprehension you're demonstrating here, I'd probably mistake it for a beginner's manual on woodworking.
Daniel Gomez10 Daniel Gomez10 Active Member
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#670 ·
We used to have such awesome debates in my lit class, and it wasn't even just about the assigned reading.
I’ve been a total bookworm since I was little, and I actually loved reading the required books all the way up until fourth grade. 😁
Now I kind of regret skipping them, though I did end up picking a few up later on.

Did they really cut Baudelaire from the curriculum? 😲
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#671 ·
Peter Doyle2 said:Honestly, you can say whatever you want about parents, but my folks just didn't read to me—and they certainly didn't make a habit of it. I didn't even really discover the local library until I started school; once I did, though, I guess I was checking out new books practically every single week.
My husband's mom has enough books to start her own library, yet she refuses to touch a Kindle, so my husband has basically only read one book in his entire life—*The Bourne Identity*, lol. Then there’s my cousin, who was devouring comic books since he was five and read an insane amount of stuff, which meant he absolutely hated every required reading assignment in high school; meanwhile, his younger brother never cared for reading at all and probably hasn't finished a single assigned book in his life. It's funny how two kids from the same house can turn out so completely different. 🤔 Yeah, I'm sure it's definitely the parents' fault if the kids find the classics boring or way too dense. 🙄

Parents are always to blame, 😬 🧐
whether it's because they try to teach kids to read too early, or they don't teach them at all—especially if they aren't reading aloud or offering picture books from day one. And apparently, it's also their fault if they push extra books beyond the school curriculum; if a kid starts reading sci-fi or fiction on their own and then doesn't have the time or interest for the assigned classics, the parent gets the blame again. 🐔

Reading is vital, though. It builds vocabulary, fuels imagination, and helps maintain focus...
It’s great to offer books to kids or read to them, but that definitely doesn't guarantee they'll become lifelong readers (like Summer mentioned, it can actually backfire sometimes).

That said, schools really should require students to read certain works, get to know them, and discuss them. If we leave everything up to the student's choice (or the parents'), what's the point of sending them to school in the first place?

There really needs to be some way to check reading comprehension.
Whether it's through writing or class discussions...
Christian Wilson28 Christian Wilson28 Member
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#672 ·
Sure, some of them—but not necessarily all.
Linda Price5 Linda Price5 Active Member
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#673 ·
Susan James said:Parents are always to blame, 😬 🧐
whether it's because they try to teach kids to read too early, or they don't teach them at all—especially if they aren't reading aloud or offering picture books from day one. And apparently, it's also their fault if they push extra books beyond the school curriculum; if a kid starts reading sci-fi or fiction on their own and then doesn't have the time or interest for the assigned classics, the parent gets the blame again. 🐔

Reading is vital, though. It builds vocabulary, fuels imagination, and helps maintain focus...
It’s great to offer books to kids or read to them, but that definitely doesn't guarantee they'll become lifelong readers (like Summer mentioned, it can actually backfire sometimes).

That said, schools really should require students to read certain works, get to know them, and discuss them. If we leave everything up to the student's choice (or the parents'), what's the point of sending them to school in the first place?

There really needs to be some way to check reading comprehension.
Whether it's through writing or class discussions...

And which ones, specifically, and why? 😁

Why, for instance, are we reading Russians when we aren't reading any Americans?
What does Toni Morrison lack that some local author might have—a Nobel Prize, perhaps? 😳
What are sixteen-year-olds supposed to gain from pretending to read a book written in a dialect that I, someone significantly older and reasonably literate, can barely decipher?
Why pick some old regional classic over Neil Gaiman?
Why shouldn't young children have a picture book that actually won a Caldecott medal on their required reading list?

And honestly, given that the whole point of education seems to be something you just power through because it won't make your career any better—nor will anyone at work care if you feel like writing a tedious report any more than school cares if you feel like doing your reading—I find myself wondering why we bother sending kids to school at all, let alone forcing them through several pages of this. 😁
Linda Price5 Linda Price5 Active Member
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#674 ·
The folks over at KGZ claim that this is actually meant to be a reading list for three-year vocational schools.

Back when I was growing up, enrolling in a three-year technical program usually meant you were an American student struggling to scrape by with Ds and Cs.

And then, someone has the audacity to hand a kid like that this:
On this holy Lenten day, respected citizens of Isukarst, my dear godparents and neighbors of the house of Dujam, while revisiting the letters of the ancient Testament, I came upon the history of the honorable and holy widow Judith and the late Olofern, whom she slew, thereby liberating all the land of Israel from their great peril.
While reading this history, it occurred to me to interpret it into our own native tongue, so that those who lack proficiency in Latin or scholarly texts might also understand.


Isukarst, indeed. 😁
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#675 ·
Susan James said:Parents are always to blame, 😬 🧐
whether it's because they try to teach kids to read too early, or they don't teach them at all—especially if they aren't reading aloud or offering picture books from day one. And apparently, it's also their fault if they push extra books beyond the school curriculum; if a kid starts reading sci-fi or fiction on their own and then doesn't have the time or interest for the assigned classics, the parent gets the blame again. 🐔

Reading is vital, though. It builds vocabulary, fuels imagination, and helps maintain focus...
It’s great to offer books to kids or read to them, but that definitely doesn't guarantee they'll become lifelong readers (like Summer mentioned, it can actually backfire sometimes).

That said, schools really should require students to read certain works, get to know them, and discuss them. If we leave everything up to the student's choice (or the parents'), what's the point of sending them to school in the first place?

There really needs to be some way to check reading comprehension.
Whether it's through writing or class discussions...

are we maybe, just a tiny bit, intentionally twisting what people are saying here...?🐔

I suppose there is a distinction between reading picture books to a child, and then there is the whole other issue of forcing a child to already know how to read and write every single letter before they even start elementary school, just so they might have a slightly lighter workload once they get there (for those who aren't caught up—there's actually a thread about that further down this PDF😉)
so, I guess you could say that parents absolutely should be reading to their children from as early as possible, and I don't think there will be any "backfire" as long as the parent is acting reasonably, isn't forcing age-inappropriate topics on the kid, and isn't pushing reading at all costs if they see the child isn't interested or doesn't particularly care for a certain picture book.
but, at the same time, they shouldn't be pressuring them to master every letter and word before they officially start school. if a child picks it up naturally while being read to, then that's great. if not, well, they'll learn it in first grade.

Is that clear enough, moderator..?🙂

by the way, I am still sitting here waiting for someone to actually name those supposedly "perfect" book titles for specific age groups that would make everyone fall to their knees?
anyone?
Anthony Ward6 Anthony Ward6 Active Member
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#676 ·
Linda Price5 said:And which ones, specifically, and why? 😁

Why, for instance, are we reading Russians when we aren't reading any Americans?
What does Toni Morrison lack that some local author might have—a Nobel Prize, perhaps? 😳
What are sixteen-year-olds supposed to gain from pretending to read a book written in a dialect that I, someone significantly older and reasonably literate, can barely decipher?
Why pick some old regional classic over Neil Gaiman?
Why shouldn't young children have a picture book that actually won a Caldecott medal on their required reading list?

And honestly, given that the whole point of education seems to be something you just power through because it won't make your career any better—nor will anyone at work care if you feel like writing a tedious report any more than school cares if you feel like doing your reading—I find myself wondering why we bother sending kids to school at all, let alone forcing them through several pages of this. 😁

I guess they have the hunter in the wheat, or whatever. 😬
It’s basically the most standard reading assignment anyway, so I suppose there's some justice for Americans. 🧐
Linda Price5 Linda Price5 Active Member
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#677 ·
Anthony Ward6 said:I guess they have the hunter in the wheat, or whatever. 😬
It’s basically the most standard reading assignment anyway, so I suppose there's some justice for Americans. 🧐

You have a point. 😁

urbantinker8, I’m still struggling to grasp the fundamental purpose of assigned reading; at least from my perspective, its utility remains entirely elusive. 😁 If the sole objective is to assassinate the classics, it would be far more cost-effective to simply print posters that read "Dostoevsky being stupid" and plaster them all over the school hallways. There is absolutely no need to bother teaching the literature at all. 😁
steelwalker26 steelwalker26 Active Member
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#678 ·
Linda Price5 said:The folks over at KGZ claim that this is actually meant to be a reading list for three-year vocational schools.

Back when I was growing up, enrolling in a three-year technical program usually meant you were an American student struggling to scrape by with Ds and Cs.

And then, someone has the audacity to hand a kid like that this:
On this holy Lenten day, respected citizens of Isukarst, my dear godparents and neighbors of the house of Dujam, while revisiting the letters of the ancient Testament, I came upon the history of the honorable and holy widow Judith and the late Olofern, whom she slew, thereby liberating all the land of Israel from their great peril.
While reading this history, it occurred to me to interpret it into our own native tongue, so that those who lack proficiency in Latin or scholarly texts might also understand.


Isukarst, indeed. 😁

but hey, it's great practice for deciphering weird texts on forums 👍
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#679 ·
Linda Price5 said:You have a point. 😁

urbantinker8, I’m still struggling to grasp the fundamental purpose of assigned reading; at least from my perspective, its utility remains entirely elusive. 😁 If the sole objective is to assassinate the classics, it would be far more cost-effective to simply print posters that read "Dostoevsky being stupid" and plaster them all over the school hallways. There is absolutely no need to bother teaching the literature at all. 😁

From what I understand, in elementary school they mostly try to help kids find something they actually enjoy reading, but once you hit middle and high school, the focus shifts to getting through a specific list of "important" works. It seems like that's how it works in pretty much every other subject, too. 😁
Linda Price5 Linda Price5 Active Member
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#680 ·
Sure, if you believe a woman who spends hours getting dolled up for a guy just to try and take his head off represents a third of the FBI. (The other third falls under the reverse scenario, and the remaining third is just whatever else is out there.)

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