Why did Jesus die?

Dennis Moore4 said:Even He said He didn't come to bring peace, but a sword—to cause division even within families.

Bravo, genius. Truly a masterstroke.
Well done, whoever you are, whether you call Him Jesus or any other variation.!!
You basically threw down some glue and they all stuck to it.
But what about the innocent people caught in the crossfire of these power games???

Dennis Moore4 said:Even He said He didn't come to bring peace, but a sword—to cause division even within families.

Bravo, genius. Truly a masterstroke.
Well done, whoever you are, whether you call Him Jesus or any other variation.!!
You basically threw down some glue and they all stuck to it.
But what about the innocent people caught in the crossfire of these power games???

Harold Reyes3 said:Jesus has absolutely nothing to do with organized churches or Christians; that’s just Pavlov’s paradise.🙄

Peter Martin said:There you go again... It’s always easiest to blame Jewish people for everything, even when they weren't even part of the equation... 🙄
But the reality is something else entirely. Every single political ideology and core belief follows the exact same pattern: a fundamental idea quickly morphs into a reason for bitter disputes and full-blown wars. It happened with Christianity, Islam, capitalism, socialism, globalism... you name it. They're all the same crap. And it didn't start with an apple; it started with a banana. At least that much we know for sure. 😁

Harold Reyes3 said:Jesus has absolutely nothing to do with organized churches or Christians; that’s just Pavlov’s paradise.🙄

Paul Kern12 said:It seems there is quite a bit happening with Christians at the moment—and I suppose the matter regarding Muslims will eventually be dealt with at the final judgment.

Dennis Moore4 said:Read between the lines.....
Learn how to do it; it'll serve you well.

Paul Kern12 said:It seems there is quite a bit happening with Christians at the moment—and I suppose the matter regarding Muslims will eventually be dealt with at the final judgment.

Paul Kern12 said:It seems there is quite a bit happening with Christians at the moment—and I suppose the matter regarding Muslims will eventually be dealt with at the final judgment.

Harold Reyes3 said:Well, we'll just have to wait and see where Jesus feels most at home when He returns to Earth.

If He walks into a mosque, He’ll see people washing up before prayer just like He did, bowing down to God exactly like He did.

He’ll see Muslim women covered up, much like His own mother Mary was. They don't eat pork, they don't drink alcohol, and they fast just like He did.

Then He looks into a church and sees rows of chairs filled with elderly folks—grandmas and grandpas who practically have death notices sticking out of their pockets—singing hymns that only God knows who wrote. He glances at the walls and sees them plastered with portraits and statues of people, and we all know how strictly the Bible forbids having idols or images of men.

He’d be calling on God Allah just like Muslims do today, while some Christians are still clinging to those wall decorations.

So, tell me: where would He actually feel at home? In a mosque with the Muslims, or in a church where everyone is doing the exact opposite of what He practiced, while Muslims are still following His lead?

Anyway, long live the truth! We'll see. Personally, though, I wouldn't want to be around when Jesus makes His grand entrance.

Peter Martin said:Jesus died because he couldn't find a way to make his faith compatible with the realities of daily life. Why don't Christians actually follow him, and how have they managed to bridge that gap between belief and existence? You'll find out in the next installment of this journal... 😁

wearyowl29 said:He didn't die—I mean, how can something that was never even born "die"?😉
And honestly, the whole idea people are trying to force down our throats is totally incompatible with reality. You're spot on there, 2kune.

Timothy Robinson2 said:I guess older people aren't allowed in mosques, and maybe singing is banned there too?

I mean, what would they say if Jesus said something like this:
look, for the sake of truth, you can believe the Gospels were lost or destroyed, but even in the Quran, it says I was conceived by a virgin, that I ascended to heaven in the flesh, and that my return is coming at the end of days. Why attach all those traits to me if I’m just one prophet among many? Even if I am the first among them, I don't need all those "extras." How did you not realize it was me?

I assume older folks aren't allowed in the mosques, and singing is banned too?

Well, what would you say if Jesus said something like this:
Look, for the sake of truth, you can believe the Gospels were lost or destroyed, but even in the Quran, it remains that I was conceived by a virgin, that I ascended to heaven in the flesh, and that my return at the end of the world is foretold. Why are all these attributes tied to me if I am just one of many prophets? Even if I am the first among them, I don't need all these "extras." How haven't you realized that I am the one?

Timothy Robinson2 said:So you're saying you deny Jesus exists at all? Like, he's just some historical figure and nothing more? I guess.

wearyowl29 said:Exactly! Look, there just isn't any solid contemporary evidence from people living back then about a guy performing miracles. It feels more like a literary figure built from the archetypes of those old mythological heroes we see in classic literature. Once this myth took root within the Roman Empire, it suddenly gained this veneer of historical fact... and honestly, people are still fueling that fire today.

Harold Reyes3 said:God responds:

28. And they know absolutely nothing about it; they just follow assumptions, and an assumption does zero favors for the truth.

171.... The Messiah, Jesus, Mary's son, is simply God's messenger—His word delivered to Mary, and the spirit of Him; so believe in God and His messengers....

The thing about skeptics is they love to speculate. "Maybe it was this, maybe it was that."

wearyowl29 said:Honestly, once God answered me personally, I felt like I didn't need anything else in this life.🤣

I can say, with total clarity, that being a believer involves a certain kind of leap—that internal conviction that what you believe is the absolute truth... because if it isn't, then everything else just falls apart.😳

Harun;31727400 said:

I wouldn't call it mere guesswork! There's actual evidence for everything they believe. Honestly, if you're interested, I could even break down the scientific perspective on the whole thing for you.

Look, you can't really use science to explain faith. It's just not how it works.

But there's no point in me trying to walk you through it if you've already decided everything is a sham anyway.

Take everything with a grain of salt... don't go charging headfirst into the bushes like a clumsy wrestler who just lost his footing!

But let's think about this for a second. Suppose God actually exists, yet you refuse to believe? You won't believe in Jesus or Muhammad either—what do you think happens to you on Judgment Day? 🙄

Fear is the eternal engine behind belief, especially when people try to cling to things that seem totally unbelievable.😂
I'm not worried, though. To me, what you actually do matters way more than what you claim to believe. Besides, why is that any of my business?